Spartan grad problems licensing in Tenn.

[azskeptic]

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Axxxxxx, MD Dr. Sxxxxxx is applying for a license to practice medicine in Tennessee. Dr. Axxxxxreviewed Dr. Sxxxi’s application file for the Board. Dr. Sxxxx graduated from a school not known by the Board. The Board asked questions about Spartan School of Medicine and brought to the attention of the applicant an article mentioning negative information about the school. Mr. Kxxx referred the Board to Rule 0880-2-.04 about foreign medical schools. Mr. Bxxx asked Dr. Axxx if the educational training at Spartan complied with the rules. Dr. Axxxx’s opinion was that the education is inferior. There is no documentation that the school is accredited. Dr. Axxxx stated the sixty months of training Dr. Sxxxxacquired at the school is not equivalent to the United States’ four year schools. Mr. Bxxxx’s suggestion was to defer tothe next meeting in order for the Board to obtain more information about Spartan School of Medicine. Dr. Mxxx made a motion to give Dr. Sxxxx the option to withdraw his application until he can submit more documentation on the school for the Board’s review. Ms. Yxxxxxx seconded the motion. The motion passed unopposed.

[shockandawe]

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Axxxxxx, MD Dr. Sxxxxxx is applying for a license to practice medicine in Tennessee. Dr. Axxxxxreviewed Dr. Sxxxi’s application file for the Board. Dr. Sxxxx graduated from a school not known by the Board. The Board asked questions about Spartan School of Medicine and brought to the attention of the applicant an article mentioning negative information about the school. Mr. Kxxx referred the Board to Rule 0880-2-.04 about foreign medical schools. Mr. Bxxx asked Dr. Axxx if the educational training at Spartan complied with the rules. Dr. Axxxx’s opinion was that the education is inferior. There is no documentation that the school is accredited. Dr. Axxxx stated the sixty months of training Dr. Sxxxxacquired at the school is not equivalent to the United States’ four year schools. Mr. Bxxxx’s suggestion was to defer tothe next meeting in order for the Board to obtain more information about Spartan School of Medicine. Dr. Mxxx made a motion to give Dr. Sxxxx the option to withdraw his application until he can submit more documentation on the school for the Board’s review. Ms. Yxxxxxx seconded the motion. The motion passed unopposed.


Thanks to people like you Azskeptic, who mailed that article to every state licensing board in the country.. I hope that you are proud of yourself. -s&a

[azskeptic]

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Axxxxxx, MD Dr. Sxxxxxx is applying for a license to practice medicine in Tennessee. Dr. Axxxxxreviewed Dr. Sxxxi’s application file for the Board. Dr. Sxxxx graduated from a school not known by the Board. The Board asked questions about Spartan School of Medicine and brought to the attention of the applicant an article mentioning negative information about the school. Mr. Kxxx referred the Board to Rule 0880-2-.04 about foreign medical schools. Mr. Bxxx asked Dr. Axxx if the educational training at Spartan complied with the rules. Dr. Axxxx’s opinion was that the education is inferior. There is no documentation that the school is accredited. Dr. Axxxx stated the sixty months of training Dr. Sxxxxacquired at the school is not equivalent to the United States’ four year schools. Mr. Bxxxx’s suggestion was to defer tothe next meeting in order for the Board to obtain more information about Spartan School of Medicine. Dr. Mxxx made a motion to give Dr. Sxxxx the option to withdraw his application until he can submit more documentation on the school for the Board’s review. Ms. Yxxxxxx seconded the motion. The motion passed unopposed.


Thanks to people like you Azskeptic, who mailed that article to every state licensing board in the country.. I hope that you are proud of yourself. -s&a

You aren't dealing with what is being said. The negative article is out there; your school should be working on disproving it or defending students in front of state boards. Blaming me doesn't fix the problem.

[shockandawe]

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Axxxxxx, MD Dr. Sxxxxxx is applying for a license to practice medicine in Tennessee. Dr. Axxxxxreviewed Dr. Sxxxi’s application file for the Board. Dr. Sxxxx graduated from a school not known by the Board. The Board asked questions about Spartan School of Medicine and brought to the attention of the applicant an article mentioning negative information about the school. Mr. Kxxx referred the Board to Rule 0880-2-.04 about foreign medical schools. Mr. Bxxx asked Dr. Axxx if the educational training at Spartan complied with the rules. Dr. Axxxx’s opinion was that the education is inferior. There is no documentation that the school is accredited. Dr. Axxxx stated the sixty months of training Dr. Sxxxxacquired at the school is not equivalent to the United States’ four year schools. Mr. Bxxxx’s suggestion was to defer tothe next meeting in order for the Board to obtain more information about Spartan School of Medicine. Dr. Mxxx made a motion to give Dr. Sxxxx the option to withdraw his application until he can submit more documentation on the school for the Board’s review. Ms. Yxxxxxx seconded the motion. The motion passed unopposed.


Thanks to people like you Azskeptic, who mailed that article to every state licensing board in the country.. I hope that you are proud of yourself. -s&a

You aren't dealing with what is being said. The negative article is out there; your school should be working on disproving it or defending students in front of state boards. Blaming me doesn't fix the problem.


In a previous post, you said that you mailed the article to every state licensing board in the country. This is a service that you offer free-of-charge. You did this, even after hearing of the discrepencies, inaccuracies and failures of this article. Now an innocent Spartan grad. cannot get licensed, I hope that you are proud of yourself. -s&a

[AUCMD2006]

whistleblowers are good..issues are brought to light that people in charge don't want to and are addressed. at the very least if more of these things happen it may force the admin to act.....

just goes to show that wether you pass the boards is up to you but wether you get licensed is up to your school so any students going to the new schools should be aware....

[azskeptic]

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Axxxxxx, MD Dr. Sxxxxxx is applying for a license to practice medicine in Tennessee. Dr. Axxxxxreviewed Dr. Sxxxi’s application file for the Board. Dr. Sxxxx graduated from a school not known by the Board. The Board asked questions about Spartan School of Medicine and brought to the attention of the applicant an article mentioning negative information about the school. Mr. Kxxx referred the Board to Rule 0880-2-.04 about foreign medical schools. Mr. Bxxx asked Dr. Axxx if the educational training at Spartan complied with the rules. Dr. Axxxx’s opinion was that the education is inferior. There is no documentation that the school is accredited. Dr. Axxxx stated the sixty months of training Dr. Sxxxxacquired at the school is not equivalent to the United States’ four year schools. Mr. Bxxxx’s suggestion was to defer tothe next meeting in order for the Board to obtain more information about Spartan School of Medicine. Dr. Mxxx made a motion to give Dr. Sxxxx the option to withdraw his application until he can submit more documentation on the school for the Board’s review. Ms. Yxxxxxx seconded the motion. The motion passed unopposed.


Thanks to people like you Azskeptic, who mailed that article to every state licensing board in the country.. I hope that you are proud of yourself. -s&a

You aren't dealing with what is being said. The negative article is out there; your school should be working on disproving it or defending students in front of state boards. Blaming me doesn't fix the problem.


In a previous post, you said that you mailed the article to every state licensing board in the country. This is a service that you offer free-of-charge. You did this, even after hearing of the discrepencies, inaccuracies and failures of this article. Now an innocent Spartan grad. cannot get licensed, I hope that you are proud of yourself. -s&a

I've seen no proof that the story and others were incorrect. The same Spartan grad has had problems licensing in Florida also so perhaps it is him and not Spartan partially?

[shockandawe]

whistleblowers are good..issues are brought to light that people in charge don't want to and are addressed. at the very least if more of these things happen it may force the admin to act.....

just goes to show that wether you pass the boards is up to you but wether you get licensed is up to your school so any students going to the new schools should be aware....


You know what rrod, you and azskeptic make me sick... You know that this stuff that is going on, affects you too, smart guy...

I like how when, last year, there was that big negative article written about rrod's school AUC, azskeptic decided to hide it in the "relaxing lounge". Maybe I should send that article to every state licensing board in the country??? Then I will see how rrod will respect me for being a so-called "whistleblower..." -s&a

[azskeptic]

whistleblowers are good..issues are brought to light that people in charge don't want to and are addressed. at the very least if more of these things happen it may force the admin to act.....

just goes to show that wether you pass the boards is up to you but wether you get licensed is up to your school so any students going to the new schools should be aware....


You know what rrod, you and azskeptic make me sick... You know that this stuff that is going on, affects you too, smart guy...

I like how when, last year, there was that big negative article written about rrod's school AUC, azskeptic decided to hide it in the "relaxing lounge". Maybe I should send that article to every state licensing board in the country??? Then I will see how rrod will respect me for being a so-called "whistleblower..." -s&a

if it was an article a foreign med school the state boards got it already.

There is no hiding....Relaxing lounge or wherever, my stuff is read.

[shockandawe]

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Axxxxxx, MD Dr. Sxxxxxx is applying for a license to practice medicine in Tennessee. Dr. Axxxxxreviewed Dr. Sxxxi’s application file for the Board. Dr. Sxxxx graduated from a school not known by the Board. The Board asked questions about Spartan School of Medicine and brought to the attention of the applicant an article mentioning negative information about the school. Mr. Kxxx referred the Board to Rule 0880-2-.04 about foreign medical schools. Mr. Bxxx asked Dr. Axxx if the educational training at Spartan complied with the rules. Dr. Axxxx’s opinion was that the education is inferior. There is no documentation that the school is accredited. Dr. Axxxx stated the sixty months of training Dr. Sxxxxacquired at the school is not equivalent to the United States’ four year schools. Mr. Bxxxx’s suggestion was to defer tothe next meeting in order for the Board to obtain more information about Spartan School of Medicine. Dr. Mxxx made a motion to give Dr. Sxxxx the option to withdraw his application until he can submit more documentation on the school for the Board’s review. Ms. Yxxxxxx seconded the motion. The motion passed unopposed.


Thanks to people like you Azskeptic, who mailed that article to every state licensing board in the country.. I hope that you are proud of yourself. -s&a

You aren't dealing with what is being said. The negative article is out there; your school should be working on disproving it or defending students in front of state boards. Blaming me doesn't fix the problem.


In a previous post, you said that you mailed the article to every state licensing board in the country. This is a service that you offer free-of-charge. You did this, even after hearing of the discrepencies, inaccuracies and failures of this article. Now an innocent Spartan grad. cannot get licensed, I hope that you are proud of yourself. -s&a

I've seen no proof that the story and others were incorrect. The same Spartan grad has had problems licensing in Florida also so perhaps it is him and not Spartan partially?


YOU HAVE SEEN NO PROOF, Azskeptic, are you completely out f your mind??? So in other words, you are saying that everything in that articel is true??? That Spartan grads can never ever be licensed in their St. Lucia? That there wasn't an entire campus being built in front of their faces when they visited Spartan?? That there are no licensed grads in NM??? Please wake up, Azskeptic... I think you WANT TO BELIEVE that it is all true. You won't even question them and then when we show you positive articles, you become an inspector. You are one of the most unfair people, I have ever run across. -s&a

[azskeptic]

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Axxxxxx, MD Dr. Sxxxxxx is applying for a license to practice medicine in Tennessee. Dr. Axxxxxreviewed Dr. Sxxxi’s application file for the Board. Dr. Sxxxx graduated from a school not known by the Board. The Board asked questions about Spartan School of Medicine and brought to the attention of the applicant an article mentioning negative information about the school. Mr. Kxxx referred the Board to Rule 0880-2-.04 about foreign medical schools. Mr. Bxxx asked Dr. Axxx if the educational training at Spartan complied with the rules. Dr. Axxxx’s opinion was that the education is inferior. There is no documentation that the school is accredited. Dr. Axxxx stated the sixty months of training Dr. Sxxxxacquired at the school is not equivalent to the United States’ four year schools. Mr. Bxxxx’s suggestion was to defer tothe next meeting in order for the Board to obtain more information about Spartan School of Medicine. Dr. Mxxx made a motion to give Dr. Sxxxx the option to withdraw his application until he can submit more documentation on the school for the Board’s review. Ms. Yxxxxxx seconded the motion. The motion passed unopposed.


Thanks to people like you Azskeptic, who mailed that article to every state licensing board in the country.. I hope that you are proud of yourself. -s&a

You aren't dealing with what is being said. The negative article is out there; your school should be working on disproving it or defending students in front of state boards. Blaming me doesn't fix the problem.


In a previous post, you said that you mailed the article to every state licensing board in the country. This is a service that you offer free-of-charge. You did this, even after hearing of the discrepencies, inaccuracies and failures of this article. Now an innocent Spartan grad. cannot get licensed, I hope that you are proud of yourself. -s&a

I've seen no proof that the story and others were incorrect. The same Spartan grad has had problems licensing in Florida also so perhaps it is him and not Spartan partially?


YOU HAVE SEEN NO PROOF, Azskeptic, are you completely out f your mind??? So in other words, you are saying that everything in that articel is true??? That Spartan grads can never ever be licensed in their St. Lucia? That there wasn't an entire campus being built in front of their faces when they visited Spartan?? That there are no licensed grads in NM??? Please wake up, Azskeptic... I think you WANT TO BELIEVE that it is all true. You won't even question them and then when we show you positive articles, you become an inspector. You are one of the most unfair people, I have ever run across. -s&a

From what I see, much of what the article says appears true. Numerous states don't allow grads to license, the head of the licensing board in St. Lucia says your grads aren't able to be licensed Show us something different.

[shockandawe]

whistleblowers are good..issues are brought to light that people in charge don't want to and are addressed. at the very least if more of these things happen it may force the admin to act.....

just goes to show that wether you pass the boards is up to you but wether you get licensed is up to your school so any students going to the new schools should be aware....


You know what rrod, you and azskeptic make me sick... You know that this stuff that is going on, affects you too, smart guy...

I like how when, last year, there was that big negative article written about rrod's school AUC, azskeptic decided to hide it in the "relaxing lounge". Maybe I should send that article to every state licensing board in the country??? Then I will see how rrod will respect me for being a so-called "whistleblower..." -s&a

if it was an article a foreign med school the state boards got it already.

There is no hiding....Relaxing lounge or wherever, my stuff is read.


Did you also send them the positive articles of the Prime Minister's visit, that totally contradicts the Courant article?? -s&a

[azskeptic]

whistleblowers are good..issues are brought to light that people in charge don't want to and are addressed. at the very least if more of these things happen it may force the admin to act.....

just goes to show that wether you pass the boards is up to you but wether you get licensed is up to your school so any students going to the new schools should be aware....


You know what rrod, you and azskeptic make me sick... You know that this stuff that is going on, affects you too, smart guy...

I like how when, last year, there was that big negative article written about rrod's school AUC, azskeptic decided to hide it in the "relaxing lounge". Maybe I should send that article to every state licensing board in the country??? Then I will see how rrod will respect me for being a so-called "whistleblower..." -s&a

if it was an article a foreign med school the state boards got it already.

There is no hiding....Relaxing lounge or wherever, my stuff is read.


Did you also send them the positive articles of the Prime Minister's visit, that totally contradicts the Courant article?? -s&a

Why don't you do that? good idea. setup a positive mailing list for Spartan

[shockandawe]

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Axxxxxx, MD Dr. Sxxxxxx is applying for a license to practice medicine in Tennessee. Dr. Axxxxxreviewed Dr. Sxxxi’s application file for the Board. Dr. Sxxxx graduated from a school not known by the Board. The Board asked questions about Spartan School of Medicine and brought to the attention of the applicant an article mentioning negative information about the school. Mr. Kxxx referred the Board to Rule 0880-2-.04 about foreign medical schools. Mr. Bxxx asked Dr. Axxx if the educational training at Spartan complied with the rules. Dr. Axxxx’s opinion was that the education is inferior. There is no documentation that the school is accredited. Dr. Axxxx stated the sixty months of training Dr. Sxxxxacquired at the school is not equivalent to the United States’ four year schools. Mr. Bxxxx’s suggestion was to defer tothe next meeting in order for the Board to obtain more information about Spartan School of Medicine. Dr. Mxxx made a motion to give Dr. Sxxxx the option to withdraw his application until he can submit more documentation on the school for the Board’s review. Ms. Yxxxxxx seconded the motion. The motion passed unopposed.


Thanks to people like you Azskeptic, who mailed that article to every state licensing board in the country.. I hope that you are proud of yourself. -s&a

You aren't dealing with what is being said. The negative article is out there; your school should be working on disproving it or defending students in front of state boards. Blaming me doesn't fix the problem.


In a previous post, you said that you mailed the article to every state licensing board in the country. This is a service that you offer free-of-charge. You did this, even after hearing of the discrepencies, inaccuracies and failures of this article. Now an innocent Spartan grad. cannot get licensed, I hope that you are proud of yourself. -s&a

I've seen no proof that the story and others were incorrect. The same Spartan grad has had problems licensing in Florida also so perhaps it is him and not Spartan partially?


YOU HAVE SEEN NO PROOF, Azskeptic, are you completely out f your mind??? So in other words, you are saying that everything in that articel is true??? That Spartan grads can never ever be licensed in their St. Lucia? That there wasn't an entire campus being built in front of their faces when they visited Spartan?? That there are no licensed grads in NM??? Please wake up, Azskeptic... I think you WANT TO BELIEVE that it is all true. You won't even question them and then when we show you positive articles, you become an inspector. You are one of the most unfair people, I have ever run across. -s&a

From what I see, much of what the article says appears true. Numerous states don't allow grads to license, the head of the licensing board in St. Lucia says your grads aren't able to be licensed Show us something different.


Why don't you call up the head St. Lucian offical and prove that Spartan grads cannot practice in St. Lucia??? You will not even move a finger because you know that it is false. Dude, the Prime Minister of St.Lucia writes to all the Spartan students to coem to St. Lucia to practice!!!! Ask anybody and they will tell you that after completing residency, you CAN BE LICENSED IN ST. LUCIA!!!!!!!!! Azskeptic, we even have ST. LUCIAN LOCALS THAT ARE STUDENTS at SPARTAN!!!! Current ones!!!! Its just that nobody goes back to work there because you can make a ton of money in the USA!!!! I do not even know why I bother with you. You just want to believe what you wish. You won't even make the slightest effort. -s&a

[AUCMD2006]

the article was about a shady grad on some money making scam, it had nothing to do with the school or licensing but send it to licensing boards see what they say.....

i do agree with you on a few things though, 1) this issue does affect me, every med school in the caribbean that is below par according to licensing boards affects me and the perception they have of us that is why this should be brought to light and allow schools that prove to be a good bet for students shine and the ones that are not fade away....2)the courant article was blatantly biased as there are some very good spartan grads, it would have been nice to show how these people have made it even though the school is substandard and that the students there have a lot of potential.

none of this should be hidden, if auc has a 20x higher malpractice rate than any other school i want to know about it etc.

you want to hold out there the successes and forget all else, well it doesn't work like that..this isn't a political campaign or an advertising run....

[shockandawe]

the article was about a shady grad on some money making scam, it had nothing to do with the school or licensing but send it to licensing boards see what they say.....

i do agree with you on a few things though, 1) this issue does affect me, every med school in the caribbean that is below par according to licensing boards affects me and the perception they have of us that is why this should be brought to light and allow schools that prove to be a good bet for students shine and the ones that are not fade away....2)the courant article was blatantly biased as there are some very good spartan grads, it would have been nice to show how these people have made it even though the school is substandard and that the students there have a lot of potential.

none of this should be hidden, if auc has a 20x higher malpractice rate than any other school i want to know about it etc.

you want to hold out there the successes and forget all else, well it doesn't work like that..this isn't a political campaign or an advertising run....


I'm just saying this article in particular has a lot of failures and inaccuracies... There has to be a better way for state boards to evaluate carib schools than by an article written in this way. -s&a

[azskeptic]

the article was about a shady grad on some money making scam, it had nothing to do with the school or licensing but send it to licensing boards see what they say.....

i do agree with you on a few things though, 1) this issue does affect me, every med school in the caribbean that is below par according to licensing boards affects me and the perception they have of us that is why this should be brought to light and allow schools that prove to be a good bet for students shine and the ones that are not fade away....2)the courant article was blatantly biased as there are some very good spartan grads, it would have been nice to show how these people have made it even though the school is substandard and that the students there have a lot of potential.

none of this should be hidden, if auc has a 20x higher malpractice rate than any other school i want to know about it etc.

you want to hold out there the successes and forget all else, well it doesn't work like that..this isn't a political campaign or an advertising run....

Actually instead of a cheering squad they need a quarterback at Spartan is my guess.

[shockandawe]

What we need is the federation of state licensing boards to make a fair standard for ALL international medical schools to go by!!!! -s&a

[ZAATARI]

I just want to remind people that Spartan was the star of the CT article but other schools such as Howard,Meharry,St George,AUC,Guad.were also attacked as banned or poor schools]it seems to me that this author hates us minorities],also Spartan made huge mistake by not suing the newspaper for defemation of hundreds of alumni reputation,I also like to remind the TN board that they have as we speak top physicians affiliated and alumni of Venderbilt and Univ TN licensed & trained who are Spartan alumni . SABA had similar issue and their clinical dean traveled to TN and supported the applicant infront the board.
Its not only CA anymore.If the FSMB lable the carribeans then its FINITO.

[shockandawe]

I just want to remind people that Spartan was the star of the CT article but other schools such as Howard,Meharry,St George,AUC,Guad.were also attacked as banned or poor schools]it seems to me that this author hates us minorities],also Spartan made huge mistake by not suing the newspaper for defemation of hundreds of alumni reputation,I also like to remind the TN board that they have as we speak top physicians affiliated and alumni of Venderbilt and Univ TN licensed & trained who are Spartan alumni . SABA had similar issue and their clinical dean traveled to TN and supported the applicant infront the board.
Its not only CA anymore.If the FSMB lable the carribeans then its FINITO.

For the spartan graduates that want to keep it "low-key", you better wake up!!!! Soon it will be you. Including constant pessimistic complainers, such as greendogz and the mindprobe will be effected... You better pray that the FSMB not only sees the bad but also sees what good Spartan has produced to this world.. -s&a

[anotherstudent]

Including constant pessimistic complainers, such as greendogz and the mindprobe will be effected... You better pray that the FSMB not only sees the bad but also sees what good Spartan has produced to this world.. -s&a
your issue is not with me, greendogz or mindprobe. your issue lies in NM. Call him and give him some advice. that's where it matters.

[shockandawe]

Including constant pessimistic complainers, such as greendogz and the mindprobe will be effected... You better pray that the FSMB not only sees the bad but also sees what good Spartan has produced to this world.. -s&a
your issue is not with me, greendogz or mindprobe. your issue lies in NM. Call him and give him some advice. that's where it matters.

anotherstudent, ******* will not even accept any of my calls anymore.. I wish I could give him another piece of my mind. But it doesn't even matter that much because he will not listen unless, the students stage an all out revolution.

These guys, the spartan administration, can survive just fine with only 8-10 students per class, so their class size means nothing, in the sense that if less students come, it will not effect them too much. In fact, less students means less work for them. The only way, is if ALL the students come together and say, "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!"

[greendogz]

You know, I'm absolutely sick of morons who sit here and exclaim how great Spartan is and how you can do as well as any other school. Frankly, those of us who make it out of Spartan could graduate from any program anywhere in the world! But medical school isn't about survival or just mucking by, it's about creating caring, compassionate, respected physicians who are dedicated to the field of medicine and patient care.

During interviews I've been repeatedly asked "tell me about Spartan", "would you recommend it to anyone else", "did they teach you well", "why haven't I heard of this school", and EVERY %$## TIME I've had to lie through my teeth about how great an experience it was, that you haven't heard of it because of the small initimate classes etc. etc! I basically sit there and BULL SH-T my way through the interview. It's insulting to them and insulting to me to have to lie.

You tell me shock, what do you tell people about Spartan and the quality of teaching and your experiences there?

[shockandawe]

You know, I'm absolutely sick of morons who sit here and exclaim how great Spartan is and how you can do as well as any other school. Frankly, those of us who make it out of Spartan could graduate from any program anywhere in the world! But medical school isn't about survival or just mucking by, it's about creating caring, compassionate, respected physicians who are dedicated to the field of medicine and patient care.

During interviews I've been repeatedly asked "tell me about Spartan", "would you recommend it to anyone else", "did they teach you well", "why haven't I heard of this school", and EVERY %$## TIME I've had to lie through my teeth about how great an experience it was, that you haven't heard of it because of the small initimate classes etc. etc! I basically sit there and BULL SH-T my way through the interview. It's insulting to them and insulting to me to have to lie.

You tell me shock, what do you tell people about Spartan and the quality of teaching and your experiences there?

I can see that you are pretty upset, greendogz, and I do not want to add to it...

Unfortunately, as with every school you go to, when you are in the interview, you have to make your school look good, even excellent, otherwise, not only will your school look bad but you will also look bad.. Remember greendogz, that you are not the only one that hated your experience, people from ALL over the carib have similiar, if not much worse stories. Just try and have a frank conversation with someone who went to Ross.

I remember when I was interviewing at this one place which I didn't even rank, there was this Ross student (she didn't know I was from the carib.) who was telling everyone in the group how "beautiful" the island was and how "wonderful" the local people were and how she misses it soooo much and blablabla... I couldn't take it, I barely could hold myself...

**-ing is part of the interview process. Remember, they are also **-ing you about their programs, as well...

About "Why haven't we heard of this school?" Usually, the better programs never heard of any of the carib. schools.

About "Tell me about Spartan". You best focus on the positive. Just read thru some of the achievements of some of the grads that ZAATARI posts.

About "Would you recommend it to anyone else?" All I can say man, is focus on the positive, you cannot possibly say no to this question...

"Did they teach you well?" Oh dear... Now, I know why you are so mad greendogz...

All I can say is, focus on the one teacher that might have taught you one single thing, talk about him/her, ** out of your teeth. Then go home take a shower and brush your teeth. I can feel with you dog...

There are positives, you went to Griffin, you hopefully, have some recommendations with the Yale name on them... Your teachers in Griffin were "part of the Spartan" experience, focus on them... Good luck and I apologize in advance if there is anything I said in this post that might have upset you. -s&a

[greendogz]

Ok shock,

That was a clear and though out reply and I apologize for the rant. I suppose at the end of the day, what bothers me most is not so much that Spartan was so carefree about it's students, but rather that they went out of the way to make my life difficult. True, most of the other CArib grads will say the same things about their schools, but I don't think most of them will say that their school made their lives MORE difficult and actually affected negatively. That's just the way I feel.

[mindprobe]

I should not even dignify shockandawe after accusing me of being a consummate pessimist, but I would like to say that all of my posts are not based on emotion or loyalty. That may simulate pessimism to an extent, but, in the case of Spartan, reality is somewhat dismal. I have always stated the benefits and deficits of Spartan. It is entirely up to the reader how these are perceived.

[shockandawe]

I should not even dignify shockandawe after accusing me of being a consummate pessimist, but I would like to say that all of my posts are not based on emotion or loyalty. That may simulate pessimism to an extent, but, in the case of Spartan, reality is somewhat dismal. I have always stated the benefits and deficits of Spartan. It is entirely up to the reader how these are perceived.

Reading your always sad, pessimistic posts mindprobe, could provoke many to even contemplate suicide. Please try and cheer up dude.. -s&a

[IMG X-Files]

Spartan is not the worse or the best school I've reviewed, since CA dissaproval in 1985, the school improved dramatically, (specifically after 2000) yet it is not on par with US/CDN MD programs.......that goes to the rest of the offshore medical schools............
At the present time Spartan grads are licensed in most states...(46)..I only see the school moving forward.....so school bashing has to stop..........positive criticism is always better......I wrote the school some suggestions on how they can get CA/IN approval, (based on recent SABA approval application).........Surprisingly enough it is not about $$$ to CA/IN, but improvements in education standards !

Regards,

[allen7603]

For all those who have been hearing rumors, Tennessee is not gone from Spartan's list forever. They have passed a new legislation that any caribbean school that is not approved in the US may not be eligible for licensure in TN. I am also a Spartan graduate. I am also from CA and will NEVER be able to go back unless I complete 4(FOUR) years of another approved medical school. If you don't believe me you can call the analyst Pat Parks 916-263-2367. She is well aware of Spartan. Please don't believe a SINGLE word ***** says. He is a ***** *****, ***** and a ***** *****. You'll hear it costs 150,000 dollars for approval but that's not true. They don't want Ca to come and see the real Spartan and then have it published.
TN is also out for good. ***** is not doing a single thig to help us. He cannot, that *****. He is a ***** ***** for a vice-president




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