IS THIS TRUE?

[Nevermore]

I've heard that Ross only promotes 180 students per term. So even if you did really well, but you are not in the top 180, you will not be promoted to the following term. Please someone let me know how this whole thing works.[/b]

[goldielocks]

You might be a little off on your number, but that's basically the way it is, except for last semester, only about 1/3 of the fourth semester class was allowed to go to Miami, approx. 1/3 had to repeat and about 1/3 had to take BMSI...so you do the math.

[2ndyear]

Something tells me
GoldieLocks and Nevermore are the same person? Go troll somewhere else please.

This is for the prospects out there. There has never been, or presently, a limit on how many students can pass each semester!! This number depends only on the students. If you like to drink at the Wine Bar, attend every party or SGA event, then you will probably fail. There are some characters there who, even on the verge of failing out, still refuses to quit the party scence.

[awdc]

ahh... the ross rumor mill at its finest. gotta love the entertainment it brings to this forum.

[Jess]

Just ask yourself.... how desparate are you to become a physician. Your answer will refelect....whether you will be that 1/3 of the fourth semester flying to miami. Its just that simple.

[Linus]

there is no set number
if you pass you move up to the next class, if you fail you stay behind
where do you people get these rumors

[link626]

there's a party scene? on this island? no way!

[goldielocks]

ok then how many people from last smesters 4th semester class made it to Miami? Linus why don't u or another school official give us an exact number?

Whats the matter...cat got your tongue.

[Linus]

i am sorry i just got back from my mini and am not able to respond right after you post a message
i assume the amount of people that made it to miami is the amount of people that passed 4th semester

[Michael10101]

The minute that I saw the sting title, "Is this true," even before clicking on it I knew that answer was no.

Common people, seriously, if 100% of the class gets a 100% on the test, 100% is going to move on.

The only thing that is going to affect whether or not you go on is YOUR grade, and your grade alone. No one else has any effect.

[razorback831]

You might be a little off on your number, but that's basically the way it is, except for last semester, only about 1/3 of the fourth semester class was allowed to go to Miami, approx. 1/3 had to repeat and about 1/3 had to take BMSI...so you do the math.

question: What school do you go to?

[Linus]

You might be a little off on your number, but that's basically the way it is, except for last semester, only about 1/3 of the fourth semester class was allowed to go to Miami, approx. 1/3 had to repeat and about 1/3 had to take BMSI...so you do the math.

where do you get this info, you just making cr@p up and typing it out
if you pass you go to miami unless you have less than a 2.9 which means you go to bmsi....simple as that....no math involved

i think goldie you failed out of ross and are pissed that ross did not spoonfeed you enough info

[jim]

yea, sounds like a couple fo trolls here. If you pass, you go on. anyone with ha;lf a brain would know that these two are full of doo doo.

[goldielocks]

i assume the amount of people that made it to miami is the amount of people that passed 4th semester

You and the other school officials can do better than that or are u admitting that only about 1/3 of last semesters 4th semester class made it to Miami..what is Ross trying to hide?

[jim]

sound slike goldie locks is bitter because she was one of teh few who failed. or is she justa troll. or is it both?

[link626]

the porridge was too cold.

[goldielocks]

sound slike goldie locks is bitter because she was one of teh few who failed. or is she justa troll. or is it both?

Isn't it interesting how ignorant people attempting to hide something always seem to want to attack those that want to expose the truth.

[Jess]

Seriously.....the time spent worrying about these stupid numbers.....if put productively to use.....will get you to miami. Ross or SGU...laws of becoming a doctor are the same. If people fail they say ..."Ross failed me" but if they pass ......its always..."I got a B...I got an A". Stop blaming the school and take responsibility for your own actions.

[danimaztani]

Seriously.....the time spent worrying about these stupid numbers.....if put productively to use.....will get you to miami. Ross or SGU...laws of becoming a doctor are the same. If people fail they say ..."Ross failed me" but if they pass ......its always..."I got a B...I got an A". Stop blaming the school and take responsibility for your own actions.

Beautifully put Jess!!! You go :wink:

[awdc]

Isn't it interesting how ignorant people attempting to hide something always seem to want to attack those that want to expose the truth.

look, if you're so concerned about the numbers, why don't you just go up to the admin building, knock on one of the deans' doors or make an appointment, and ask them yourself.

[goldielocks]

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folks, please do your colleages a favor and stop refering to schools as the big whatever. Rememebr when you were a premed? What sort of info did you want bottom line? Whatever it took to make an intelligent decision. Please, give others the same, wont you? How can you look away?

Premeds: consider these things
1) pass rates on usmle
2)% who get to the usmle with their class and dont decel, drop out or fail
3)can you get licensed in the states youre likely interested in? I couldnt care less about california but many do
4) can you get the residency you want from there? No not alls chools are equal. Ortho is do-able from some more than others. Bottom line. but do you want to do something like ortho, or something like FP? or not sure
5)the consider cost/lifestyle on island/etc
Paying more may not be worth it if you find a school that meets requirments 1-4 for you. Or going to a prettier island. Are you looking for a competitive residency in texas? Better be careful then.
Please, copy cut and paste this or link it if you must, but for the love of all things good and right in this world, please dont give stundets lists of the big whatever. LEt them decide and know why they are chosing these places.
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Sidney Kimmel Cancer Center
Resident of Radiation Oncology '04

[Locuscoeruleus22]

I've heard that the competition is so huge at Ross that students sabotage other students' cadavers. Now, is this true? What really happens at Ross that people don't get promoted to the next class? I've heard they have quotas... also if you fail one course they make you repeat the whole semester.

[Linus]

if students sabatoged other students cadavers they would be hurting themselves as well, since everyone is tested on the cadavers
sabatoging only makes the lab practical harder
there is no quota for 5th, if you pass you go on, i dont know where these rumors start, but if you dont believe me call the new jersey office, email the admin, but please stop believing rumors you hear on this forum, many students who have failed here like to get on her and start rumors about the school
one thing you had down is true, if students fail a semester you repeat the whole semester, which what is the harm in that, you are better prepared for step 1 comes around

[babydoll]

You might be a little off on your number, but that's basically the way it is, except for last semester, only about 1/3 of the fourth semester class was allowed to go to Miami, approx. 1/3 had to repeat and about 1/3 had to take BMSI...so you do the math.

I don't know what you're trying to prove, but stop playing with the numbers. According to Dr. F, this is the second smallest class that has come to Miami, 55 of us are from last semester's 4th semester class, 40+ are from Guadlajara (they all passed their Step 1) and 60+ are returning students who took a semester off. Total is ~180, so I don't know who or where the other 25 are from. Those are the numbers....SO WHAT? This just shows you that if you really want something bad enough, you can achieve it, but you have to work real hard for it. This is not like high school where you show up and they still graduate you. This is medical school for goodness sakes! Sounds like you're angry about something maybe because you just gave up, but please don't contaminate those that still have the will and the dream. Go troll somewhere else!

[Daniel]

[quote=goldielocks]According to Dr. F, this is the second smallest class that has come to Miami, 55 of us are from last semester's 4th semester class, 40+ are from Guadlajara (they all passed their Step 1) and 60+ are returning students who took a semester off. [/b]

Wow, only 55 from the previous 4th sem? Much lower than I thought. Are you sure about that number? I thinking it was more along the lines of 90.

[smith_99]

there is definitelty not a set number, sadly there are a lot of dumb people. i have seen minis adjusted because too many people were failing. sometimes the mps drops into the 40s. plenty of my class made it to and out of miami. as far as cadaver sabatoge, it doesn't make sense. you are graded at the end of the dissection hour, so there is no time for sabotage. there was an issue several semesters ago were there was an alleged attack on the prosection cadavers. that one is true, i was there for that. but people were tried on honor counsil for that

[goldielocks]

According to Dr. F, this is the second smallest class that has come to Miami, 55 of us are from last semester's 4th semester class, 40+ are from Guadlajara (they all passed their Step 1) and 60+ are returning students who took a semester off. Total is ~180, so I don't know who or where the other 25 are from

Babydoll, so what ur saying is that less than 30% of last semester’s 4th semester class went to Miami & the other 70% of the students had to repeat, do BMSI or both. Very interesting

Ross first time pass rate is 50-60% or slightly higher (avg. score < 200)

Tuition next semester is going up by 9% to around $12000/semester

maybe I will apply to Ross and attend one of the “lesser Caribbean medical schools” - who wouldn’t want to get less quality for more money - it’s only a joke folks

my understanding is that Ross is going through some major changes, so hopefully the present administrators don’t continue to damage Ross reputation.

The upside is Ross can only improve even if it doesn’t want to but because it’s a business it has to.

remember BUYER BEWARE and always verify info on ur own, especially on a public forum

Good luck with finding the school that suits you. I’ll update as needed

[d.deferens]

wow whats up? all these bad posts about Ross make me worry Ross is not a very good school y are tehre all these bad posts and everybody says ross weeds out all the dumb students. they can not all be that dumb is that why there are so many people who transfer? should i even apply to ross so they can take my money and flunk me?

[Daniel]

wow whats up? all these bad posts about Ross make me worry Ross is not a very good school y are tehre all these bad posts and everybody says ross weeds out all the dumb students. they can not all be that dumb is that why there are so many people who transfer? should i even apply to ross so they can take my money and flunk me?

those who get through the ross system will adamently argue that ross does not fail students and that students only fail themselves. i've seen plenty of posts saying this...in BOLD. well...how would they know that they dont fail students on purpose?

those who have failed have whined that ross is out to get them and they are out to steal money from unsuspecting students. pretty bold claims!

what is the truth? until the grading process and exam questions become more transparent...neither side can really prove its case. who bears the burden of proving one side over the other? i think its up to the school because they are capable of doing this. the burden cannot lie on the student who failed with a 69 because he has no access to all the grades, weighted exams and MPS.

even though i have done very well through all the semesters i have been with ross, i still find ross a shady school and it would not surprise me if they failed borderline students by tweaking some numbers. if they didn't, now THAT would surprise me!

[Linus]

some of these people posting here have grudges against ross and post negative things
goldie does not even go here (since she said "maybe i will apply to ross") and i think babydoll probably is goldie with another name to make her stuff sound better
if you study hard and not screw around you will get through ross and do very well

and no goldie i am not a school oficial like you PM to me said, i am a 4th semester student who is leaving this island in 31 days

[goldielocks]

sorry Linus but this is what I said:

According to Dr. F, this is the second smallest class that has come to Miami, 55 of us are from last semester's 4th semester class, 40+ are from Guadlajara (they all passed their Step 1) and 60+ are returning students who took a semester off. Total is ~180, so I don't know who or where the other 25 are from

Babydoll, so what ur saying is that less than 30% of last semester’s 4th semester class went to Miami & the other 70% of the students had to repeat, do BMSI or both. Very interesting

Ross first time pass rate is 50-60% or slightly higher (avg. score < 200)

Tuition next semester is going up by 9% to around $12000/semester

maybe I will apply to Ross and attend one of the “lesser Caribbean medical schools” - who wouldn’t want to get less quality for more money - it’s only a joke folks

my understanding is that Ross is going through some major changes, so hopefully the present administrators don’t continue to damage Ross reputation.

The upside is Ross can only improve even if it doesn’t want to but because it’s a business it has to.

remember BUYER BEWARE and always verify info on ur own, especially on a public forum

Good luck with finding the school that suits you. I’ll update as needed

Even Daniel is saying that Ross is a shady school and should become more transparent so why can't you accept the truth Linus - now you're going to say that Daniel is probably me with another name to sound better - don't distract from the real issues.

No grudges here and I never said that you can't get through Ross. I've jsut exposed some important facts about Ross that you don't want to hear...well the truth hurts so suck it up!

[razorback831]

sorry Linus but this is what I said:

According to Dr. F, this is the second smallest class that has come to Miami, 55 of us are from last semester's 4th semester class, 40+ are from Guadlajara (they all passed their Step 1) and 60+ are returning students who took a semester off. Total is ~180, so I don't know who or where the other 25 are from

Babydoll, so what ur saying is that less than 30% of last semester’s 4th semester class went to Miami & the other 70% of the students had to repeat, do BMSI or both. Very interesting

Ross first time pass rate is 50-60% or slightly higher (avg. score < 200)

Tuition next semester is going up by 9% to around $12000/semester

maybe I will apply to Ross and attend one of the “lesser Caribbean medical schools” - who wouldn’t want to get less quality for more money - it’s only a joke folks

my understanding is that Ross is going through some major changes, so hopefully the present administrators don’t continue to damage Ross reputation.

The upside is Ross can only improve even if it doesn’t want to but because it’s a business it has to.

remember BUYER BEWARE and always verify info on ur own, especially on a public forum

Good luck with finding the school that suits you. I’ll update as needed

Even Daniel is saying that Ross is a shady school and should become more transparent so why can't you accept the truth Linus - now you're going to say that Daniel is probably me with another name to sound better - don't distract from the real issues.

No grudges here and I never said that you can't get through Ross. I've jsut exposed some important facts about Ross that you don't want to hear...well the truth hurts so suck it up!


It's usually only shady to the students who want a reason for why they failed. Your view of Ross will likely be shaped by how well you do here. I do not know of one person with a high GPA who whines and cries about how shady the administration is.

[babydoll]

what is the truth? until the grading process and exam questions become more transparent...neither side can really prove its case. who bears the burden of proving one side over the other? i think its up to the school because they are capable of doing this. the burden cannot lie on the student who failed with a 69 because he has no access to all the grades, weighted exams and MPS.

even though i have done very well through all the semesters i have been with ross, i still find ross a shady school and it would not surprise me if they failed borderline students by tweaking some numbers. if they didn't, now THAT would surprise me!

Why are you agreeing with Goldielocks Daniel? Don't you see that this person is a troll!!!

[FoxTrot]

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[Daniel]

troll or not...i'm just trying to be objective here.

the administration IS shady in some ways. the fact that i finished the island with a high GPA should have no bearing on my opinion of the administration.

i will not soften on my stance that some things on the island just plain old stink! take financial aid for example, personally, i found that they are very irresponsible in how they manage student moneys. we are not a 20,000 student campus! we have maybe 1,200 students on campus with 3 financial aid officers working....so they handle only 400 students apiece! they supposedly work everyday from 8am to 4pm...and if you do the math (for students filing their FA applications on time, 6 weeks prior), they need only to process correctly roughly 1 or 2 students applications an hour! why cant they even do that? the rate at which they mismanage, lose, misprocess and dont check up on the status of our checks is hardly exemplary. when i asked two of the deans about it, they turned a blind eye.

you go talk to dr d about faculty-student by-laws and rights and he will look at you like you are crazy. am i the only one who finds him shady? what about our old dean F.W.? what about the reporting of zero crime on the campus crime sheet?

rely on self study and things will be fine. just because i am doing well, i will not brush off and forget about some of the things the school does.

***proper names edited

[obadya00]

i find it futile to argue with these people who aren't on island. priorities shift significantly once your here. high gpa students have the same complaints as low gpa students. their opinions are equally valid regardless of their gpa. people's "whining" is just venting. medical school is hard and most people don't have a support system here or any conveniences of home. once you (prospective students with an attitude) get here, you will understand.


i really think that you (prospective students with an attitude) should be thankful that we (students/graduates of ross) take out the time in our busy schedules to reply to your inquiries or gripes. how often do you guys say thanks. most of the people i know that used to post here got irritated by the immaturity on the forum, they stopped posting.

[ghaleon]

Goldielocks or whatever her name is not too far off target. The truth is that yes, if 100% of the class achieves passing scores in 4th semester and everyone is above a 2.9 then yes, they will all proceed to Miami. BUT however in reality you have a good # of students that do not pass simply because of their own abilities. Then you also have a good # of students that happen to have below a 2.9 GPA despite passing their courses. Subtract these students out of the total student body and YES last semester we ended up with only around 1/3 making it to Miami. But please bear in mind that this was not a preset # by the university, it just worked out that way....

[jim]

Daniel states that the campus crime rate is posted as zero as if its not true. I am not sure what he is refferring to, but the way the dept of ed dictates that these are reported is that if a criem occurs ON the actual campus grounds. My undergrad had 4 people shot to death in a drive by, and because they all died on the side of the dotted yellow line away form campus in the middle of the road, they dont count. when I was at Ross, the campus crime was ZERO. there is soem petty crime away form campus. as for the grades thing? if you do well, you dont have to worry about it. I have said here many times, Ross takes people who US schools said would not survive medical school. It is YOUR job, to prove that the US schools made a mistake. I now teach US med students,a nd I hear them whine about the same stuff. they had 20% of their second years get held back this past summer( a record worst year for the school). it happens. but if you study and do well, you will not be held back. Ross DOES NOT fail people. people fail. remember, you have to prove it to the US schools they screwed up. but there are many who go to Ross, and other offshore schools, for whom the US schools were right. it seems the people who fail can never look in the mirror.

[Daniel]

Daniel states that the campus crime rate is posted as zero as if its not true. I am not sure what he is refferring to, but the way the dept of ed dictates that these are reported is that if a criem occurs ON the actual campus grounds. My undergrad had 4 people shot to death in a drive by, and because they all died on the side of the dotted yellow line away form campus in the middle of the road, they dont count. when I was at Ross, the campus crime was ZERO. there is soem petty crime away form campus. as for the grades thing? if you do well, you dont have to worry about it. I have said here many times, Ross takes people who US schools said would not survive medical school. It is YOUR job, to prove that the US schools made a mistake. I now teach US med students,a nd I hear them whine about the same stuff. they had 20% of their second years get held back this past summer( a record worst year for the school). it happens. but if you study and do well, you will not be held back. Ross DOES NOT fail people. people fail. remember, you have to prove it to the US schools they screwed up. but there are many who go to Ross, and other offshore schools, for whom the US schools were right. it seems the people who fail can never look in the mirror.

Jim, with all due respect, I am looking at one of the copies of the Campus Crime Statistics....with official Ross letterhead.

Let me quote: "The campus crime reports include the number of possible crimes reported to University officials or the local police if they inform the University. The numbers represent reports, which may or may not actually prove to have been crimes."

I've reported some crimes and they werent listed. Reports are just that...they do not have to be proven. As long as someone reports a crime, a record must be kept of it.

Futher, your assertion that this report does not pertain to events off-campus is incorrect.

Quote: "The campus crime reports cover reports of crimes that have occurred on campus, at a noncampus building used by the University to provide direct support to the educational programs and on public property immediately adjacent to and accessible from campus."

If you look at the department of education's website, the viligence of school crimes need be even higher in the surrounding areas that aren't on official school grounds if the school does not provide the students with the option of on-campus housing!

PM me if you'd like to see the original report.

As for the grading I think we can agree that good students will have no problems with Ross. My point was that if Ross gave back exams, they could make good students even better (so they could learn from their mistakes)...and would also effectively remove the shady aura that they currently have. You dont have to be a failing student to think something is fishy. Good students can question the system and I happen to be one of them.

[Linus]

professors are now allowed to go over the exam with students
dr H went over our micro today
you cant see the exam, but they do go over the questions

[alpathmd]

you are all very very very funny....(applause!!!) :flag:

i'm currently a 4th year Ross student in the East Coast FINISHING up my clinical rotations.

i love the Ross crap you all talk about. I was on the island when the 2.6 GPA was the going rate...can't believe it's 2.9 now!

In terms of my class, May, we started with 160 approx, and only < 100 made it to miami. Some transferred to St. Matthews, some repeated, some stayed for BMSI, and the others passed go and went to miami.
(just more proof, that all cannot make it to miami).

In terms of partying....I did attend all parties after the mini's and managed to stay on the Dean's list through all 4 semesters. Doing well on exams, is a matter of 1. studying 2. managing your time 3. getting old mini exams (still possible????). 4. partying after the mini's. (nothing like staying at coconuts till 4am, and showing up at lecture at 8am!).

thanks for the entertainment everyone!

A.

[jim]

Daniel, if you read the webpage of the DOE closely, you will see that the report is ONLY campus crimes, reported to either campus security or local police. in other words, crimes reported to local police are only included on the report IF they occurreed on campus, and only includes off campus crimes if they occurr at a school related event.
Back to the grading. Yes, they have never been very transparent when i was at Ross either. we thought it was a huge deal when they started giving us our copies of the exams back in 2000. they stoppedthat? of course, back then they also changed the pass standards and teh curve to ridiculous standards. we had over 200 in my 2nd semester class, and only 3 failed, 2 of whom were previous repeaters. we were a good class, but not that good.

[Daniel]

Daniel, if you read the webpage of the DOE closely, you will see that the report is ONLY campus crimes, reported to either campus security or local police. in other words, crimes reported to local police are only included on the report IF they occurreed on campus, and only includes off campus crimes if they occurr at a school related event.
Back to the grading. Yes, they have never been very transparent when i was at Ross either. we thought it was a huge deal when they started giving us our copies of the exams back in 2000. they stoppedthat? of course, back then they also changed the pass standards and teh curve to ridiculous standards. we had over 200 in my 2nd semester class, and only 3 failed, 2 of whom were previous repeaters. we were a good class, but not that good.

Jim, I've read the DOE statement and it does NOT have to be strictly on campus. Crimes in adjacent public property easily accessible by students also count (http://www.ed.gov/legislation/FedRegister/finrule/1999-4/110199d.html). This is writen on page 59069, under the section "Sec. 668.46 Institutional security policies and crime statistics." Furthermore, there is a huge difference between a school that offers on-campus housing and off-campus housing. Schools are expected to protect their students on their campuses...and if they do not have these on-campus housing options for whatever reason, they must extend vigilence to include students living in nearby off-campus housing units.

Besides, this is all a moot point, as crimes reported ON CAMPUS have not been included in the crimesheet by Ross. If they fail to report on-campus crimes, I see no reason why they'd report off-campus ones. I, myself, have reported a theft out of a school locker and it didnt show up.

As for copies of our exams...yes, they stopped doing that. The current students can vouch for that. As a matter of fact, according to the 5th sems in Miami, exam GRADES weren't given out even in last semester's final! Only their final number grades showed up...no shelf grades...nothing. So, they didn't know how they did on their finals and most didnt know how they did on their shelfs. Imagine, you take a test, but you cannot see your score or review the questions...they just give you a number for you final grade.

This is the reason I feel for those students who were told they failed a subject by 1 point but were offered no proof if they had indeed failed. In most cases, failing students probably deserved to fail...that is not the arguement I am makling. What I am concerned about is the borderline student who studied enough to pass but was given a one-point failure without proof. That is why I think if the University handed back exams, good students will get better and learn from their mistakes...and bad students will have no reason to gripe about school conspiracy as their own failures will be self-evident.

[futuremdsomewhere]

That is true that last semester only a number and letter grade was reported to your email but all you had to do was go and ask any of your profs for your scores and they had your final exam and shelf grade as well as the mps. I dont know about everyone else but in undergrad we usually didnt get back final exam grades, we just got our letter grade. The only time we got back the final grades was when we went to the dept or prof and asked. No difference here at Ross.

Last semester and this semester if I wanted to know what I missed, I just went to the prof and asked. They would go through it with me and show me why I missed the questions.

You say that giving back our exams would stop the people who are failing from complaining, I cant agree with that statement. They will just find something else to complain about. Do all the US schools give back exams, NO they do not. If you have a question go ask the prof about your exam.

[atth]

don't worry about the numbers, just study hard and try your best. when we were in first semester, the way they showed us how they calculated the mps was very vague...they showed us using a graph and from that graph, there is no way the mps could be a 50 or a 60, but of course that's not how they calculate the mps. they use some mathematical way of doing it and only showed us the simplified way. so if you are worried that there is something fishy going on, just study hard and not try to be at the bottom of the class. and if you are, then you should repeat to get a better grasp of the materials. i've seen people study hard and still don't pass, but i guess it's because they are just a little slower than others at understanding the materials and need more time. don't ask ross to be lenient because in the end you will end up failing the step 1 and it's going to be your fault. ross is not that hard, u just need to manage your time and not get caught up in all these rumors. your energy and time spent worrying is taking away from your energy and time to study.

[Daniel]

That is true that last semester only a number and letter grade was reported to your email but all you had to do was go and ask any of your profs for your scores and they had your final exam and shelf grade as well as the mps. I dont know about everyone else but in undergrad we usually didnt get back final exam grades, we just got our letter grade. The only time we got back the final grades was when we went to the dept or prof and asked. No difference here at Ross.

Last semester and this semester if I wanted to know what I missed, I just went to the prof and asked. They would go through it with me and show me why I missed the questions.

You say that giving back our exams would stop the people who are failing from complaining, I cant agree with that statement. They will just find something else to complain about. Do all the US schools give back exams, NO they do not. If you have a question go ask the prof about your exam.

During my stay on the Rock, most professors, especially ones in the Microbiology department refused to show us anything. As for US schools giving back exams...if a student explicitly requests it, YES they do return them! Pick any US school and email a faculty member politely, most will say they would be happy to.

[singer]

Daniel:

Are you talking about ALL US Medical schools releasing the exam papers to the students or are you speaking about the college you attended?

Also if you are in 5th semester I would aprreciate your insight on
1-Need of car or share with partner.
2-Good and safe places to live.
3-If 12 week 5th semester is offered are the additional 3 weeks
beneficial.
4-Is the Ross UMBR reveiw course for $2500 worth the cost, if so
can it be taken during 5th or after and what are better alternatives.
5-How far in advance before registration should a student get to
Miami .
6-Shold a student book the apartment sight unseen?

Thanks for any help!!!

[jim]

well, I must admit, after reading all of Daniel's link, my eyes hurt. very wordy. and yes, non campus buildings are mentioned, however, and I directly quote:
"These regulations do not require an institution to
report crime statistics for public property surrounding noncampus
buildings or property. " end quote. of course, there is no excuse for not reporting the locker break in you mention, though they do allow non-reporting in cases where it will jeoprdise investigations(yea, right!).

[Daniel]

Daniel:

Are you talking about ALL US Medical schools releasing the exam papers to the students or are you speaking about the college you attended?

Also if you are in 5th semester I would aprreciate your insight on
1-Need of car or share with partner.
2-Good and safe places to live.
3-If 12 week 5th semester is offered are the additional 3 weeks
beneficial.
4-Is the Ross UMBR reveiw course for $2500 worth the cost, if so
can it be taken during 5th or after and what are better alternatives.
5-How far in advance before registration should a student get to
Miami .
6-Shold a student book the apartment sight unseen?

Thanks for any help!!!

singer,

i'm a 6th sem....so 5th seemed like yesterday.

1: yes, i would say a car is necessary...let me put it this way, the cost-benefit of having a car is a no-brainer.
2: housing, i am never at home so housing didnt matter much to me. the best bet is to stay where current ross students stay. easy access to last minute Q's and tips.
3: i dont know about the extra 3 weeks. but why would you want to lose 3 weeks of your elective time? as i understand it, the 3 weeks are taken away from your precious elective credits.
4: i'd go with kaplan
5: getting there early to scope the area is always good. get used to the roads and the traffic. i dont speak spanish so acculturation is another issue...though other students are always nice enough to help out.
6: i would ask if there are/were recent ross students as tenents...as someone ahead of your son probably did the leg work on those places already.

good luck!