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[gagan25]

hi

Canadian student( from edmonton, alberta) i was hoping if anyone could tell be about Pecs Medical School in hungary. Actually even though it is a 6 year program i was told because i have bsc degree i could tranfer into their 2nd year program and then after two years i could do my two year rotaions in us and thus it will become a 4year program if i follow this plan. If anyone has any info on this please let me know.

[Equestrian10]

Hey gagan,

Yeah, I was thinking about going to Pecs Medical University but after coming across this website, the reviews seem to be a bit negative.

When I researched into Pecs Medical University, yeah, I was told the same thing that you could do clinical rotations here in the US, but according to some posts I read here, it was only a promise made by the agent and it was never kept. Also, I heard that the four year program in Pecs doesn't really exists like it was tried out but didn't get good reviews(somebody please correct me if I'm wrong). Look into some other schools in Hungary or even in the Caribbean if you really want to practice in the US.

Again, I'm just going by what I read and researched, if anyone wants to add something, go right ahead. Anyways, best of luck!

[cristagali]

You can visit all the medical schools in Hungary in 2 -3 days. Ask lots of questions and more importantly, talk to the students. Contact the school directly and make it a point that you do NOT need an agent. Come visit Debrecen. You'll like it. Don;t know much about the other programs, but all have pros& cons, including DOTE too. So come visit..good luck! 8)

[Miklos]

hi

Canadian student( from edmonton, alberta) i was hoping if anyone could tell be about Pecs Medical School in hungary. Actually even though it is a 6 year program i was told because i have bsc degree i could tranfer into their 2nd year program and then after two years i could do my two year rotaions in us and thus it will become a 4year program if i follow this plan. If anyone has any info on this please let me know.

Gagan,

My advice is stay away from Pecs. It sounds as though you have been speaking to Ray ********. I recommend that you do a search on keyword ******** on this forum. I think that you would be surprised.

Presently it is impossible to complete any medical school in Hungary in four years. The reason is that the curriculum is mandated by law. In theory (only, only theory) there is curriculum portability regarding getting credit for classes elsewhere, however the standard you have to meet is too high.

Ray ******** constantly tricks people by promising them this and other things. My advice is don't walk, run away.

If you need more info, pm me.

Miklos

[romancathen]

Ray ******** will take your money and he will run away. You will get stuck at Pecs, which is a horrible medical school. If you planned to go to Eastern Europe for medical school, there are many better schools to choose from. Stay away from him!

[Miklos]

Ray ******** will take your money and he will run away. You will get stuck at Pecs, which is a horrible medical school. If you planned to go to Eastern Europe for medical school, there are many better schools to choose from. Stay away from him!

I take issue with Pecs being a horrible school. Pecs is a fine school in its own right. One of the problems with Pecs is their association with ********. (See my post above.)

Miklos

[Sharp88]

fist hand info here: im a student at PECS and all is true, there is no 4 year prog, and they will not take you into the 2nd year stay away from ray he'll just blow smoke up your a$$, there are attempts to sort things out, but bottom line is only come to Pecs if you are willing to spend 6 years here, and again, no agents are needed, shoot me a pm and i can hook you up with eveything you need to get setup if you decide to come here, just please don't give him a cent!!!!

[whattupdog6969]

any Hungarian school that promises admission directly into the second year is probably lying..... make sure that you have proof of this, as I was promised the same thing, and it didnt happen, and some sneaky people whom I trusted as colleagues and friends got stiffed, thats about the only good thing that happened about it. lol.

[Miklos]

any Hungarian school that promises admission directly into the second year is probably lying..... make sure that you have proof of this, as I was promised the same thing, and it didnt happen, and some sneaky people whom I trusted as colleagues and friends got stiffed, thats about the only good thing that happened about it. lol.

That's one of the nastiest things about the agents. I've posted on this many times before...

[Dr.Evil]

any Hungarian school that promises admission directly into the second year is probably lying..... make sure that you have proof of this, as I was promised the same thing, and it didnt happen, and some sneaky people whom I trusted as colleagues and friends got stiffed, thats about the only good thing that happened about it. lol.


Its pretty easy getting transferred to 2nd year if u have a degree...or have studied something related...but usually they stick you with one or two subjects from 1at year...which u have to finnish along with the others...

[Miklos]

Its pretty easy getting transferred to 2nd year if u have a degree...or have studied something related...but usually they stick you with one or two subjects from 1at year...which u have to finnish along with the others...

Disagree. Things are all in the hands of the department heads. IF they don't like you, they'll make you take their class.

[neilc]

even if a school would allow this, i would be careful. it sounds frighteningly like advanced standing (ie recieving med school credit for courses completed outside of a med school) and licensing boards may frown on it. for a couple of classes, you may be able to pull it off (ie the first semester of basic chem, maybe biophysics). but, i would still be very, very careful with this. at best, you save a few classes, but no real time. at worst, you give the licensing board a very clear reason to reject your application.

[Dr.Evil]

Disagree. Things are all in the hands of the department heads. IF they don't like you, they'll make you take their class.

What is ur objection...fact is there are more than a few at DOTE who have transfered into 2nd and 3rd year.

Sure, u a partly right..if the head dosent like u, he can stick it to u...but thats unrelated since we are talking about DOTE...lol the most inconsistent insitute in EU.

I know 4 people who transfered into second year, and they hadnt touched anatomy or biophys. They started them of with Anatomy part 2, and they had to finish the bio and anatomy part 1 during the june exam period and complete the final in anatomy in the late exam period. And they had to pay extra ofcourse....

[Miklos]

What is ur objection...fact is there are more than a few at DOTE who have transfered into 2nd and 3rd year.

Sure, u a partly right..if the head dosent like u, he can stick it to u...but thats unrelated since we are talking about DOTE...lol the most inconsistent insitute in EU.

I know 4 people who transfered into second year, and they hadnt touched anatomy or biophys. They started them of with Anatomy part 2, and they had to finish the bio and anatomy part 1 during the june exam period and complete the final in anatomy in the late exam period. And they had to pay extra ofcourse....
I think that it is just a matter of sematics, then. Inconsistency, unfortunately, is simply part of the system. I've seen the "rules" applied very differently, depending on whether the department head liked or disliked the given person.

[whattupdog6969]

Its pretty easy getting transferred to 2nd year if u have a degree...or have studied something related...but usually they stick you with one or two subjects from 1at year...which u have to finnish along with the others...

no way man that is highly misleading and very inaccurate - or at least it was in my time approximately 5 and a half years ago in the beginning of the curriculum with my class especially, it was not possible at all whatsoever to get direct admission directly into second or my goodness third year without prior Medical school work, I had a whole lot of credentials, very good grades and research (there is a guy graduating now from DOTE who has a degree from the US and did the Basic Medical Sciences there in other words Pre Med studies) but a few of my classmates had even more credentials than I had, and we only got exemption in Chemistry, Molecular Biology, Cell Biology, Genetics, and maybe Informatics - nobody exempted that Cell Biology or Biophysics we all tried actually in my year because Vereb was in charge - no matter if you were a nuclear scientist or molecular PhD, theres no way that it is possible at all to get directly admitted to the second year directly from Undergrad or Postgraduate studies from the US or Canada no way no how at all... because some idiot students cheated and presented false credentials the previous year and got exempt from Cell Biology and acted ridiculous like they had actually done anything to deserve that exemption, the Dept heard about this and we all got stung in our year, in other words nobody got exempt, even though the previous year students who failed college or straight out of high school even got exepmt from Cell Biology - even though the final examination itself was not that bad at all. unless you have marticulated in another Eastern European institution for medical school then of course its possible to transfer directly into the second year, but to say that its easy to transfer to the second year directly from the US or Canada with either Undergraduate and, or Postgraduate studies, its not next to impossible it is impossible - maybe from some other countries I have no clue but for sure not US or Canada, nobody from the US or Canada has ever exempted Biophysics for instance as I know of, or anything in Anatomy, like first year as you are saying - granted it is easy in first year, but to exempt it I have never heard of anyone without prior medical school work.

[whattupdog6969]

even if a school would allow this, i would be careful. it sounds frighteningly like advanced standing (ie recieving med school credit for courses completed outside of a med school) and licensing boards may frown on it. for a couple of classes, you may be able to pull it off (ie the first semester of basic chem, maybe biophysics). but, i would still be very, very careful with this. at best, you save a few classes, but no real time. at worst, you give the licensing board a very clear reason to reject your application.

yeah your right I agree, but its only on stuff like Medical Chemistry, which the US system is far more advanced than the first year of at least my medical school as far as that aspect at least is concerned. Its not a big deal at all whatsoever in the first year subjects. After that though, I think that its next to impossible to exempt subjects that are not actually medical school subjects.

[whattupdog6969]

[quote=Dr.Evil]What is ur objection...fact is there are more than a few at DOTE who have transfered into 2nd and 3rd year."

you must be referring to people who had already done work previously in other medical schools in Eastern Europe, then yes its possible, but to say that its possible directly from college or any type of postgraduate work in the US or Canada, directly to second year, or gosh third year... sure people can lie and say that they never did any medical school esp if they failed from another school and are not honest about why or how they are beginning in the second or even third year.....

[neilc]

yeah your right I agree, but its only on stuff like Medical Chemistry, which the US system is far more advanced than the first year of at least my medical school as far as that aspect at least is concerned. Its not a big deal at all whatsoever in the first year subjects. After that though, I think that its next to impossible to exempt subjects that are not actually medical school subjects.

still, if a med board wanted to take issue, they could. i think that it is a potential problem that should be very carefully considered when getting exemptions. personally, i don't think it is worth the admittedly small risk. and, if you do want to get an exemption, i would recommend asking to just recieve class credti, and take the exam. that way the class and a grade will be on your transcript.

[whattupdog6969]

still, if a med board wanted to take issue, they could. i think that it is a potential problem that should be very carefully considered when getting exemptions. personally, i don't think it is worth the admittedly small risk. and, if you do want to get an exemption, i would recommend asking to just recieve class credti, and take the exam. that way the class and a grade will be on your transcript.


yeah thats exactly it..... we do actually take an oral examination in the exempted subject, for all subjects, and receive that mark. In chemistry, we all had a topic to prepare with the head of medical Chemistry, and presented it to him, and in Genetics, we prepared knowledge from chromosomal disorders, and genetic aspects of various disorders and diseases, translocations, etc. So it was not a pure exemption, it was more like exactly what you are saying. We did actually receive the class credit, only did not have to do any of the labs and the self controls, due to our prior work in these subjects. Class grade is on my transcript from medical school. Its a bit confusing at times admittedly. Cell Biology and Biophysics, same department people, basically said either take the examination and do the laboratory practicals and self controls which are optional for bonus points towards the final examination or buzz off. :confused: So we all had to take those two examinations in the first year, thanks to people who ruined the exemption the previous year - at least in Cell Biology, as I mentioned I have never ever even once heard of a single person getting exempted from Biophysics without prior medical school work and transferring into the University. But no way nobody with any 'degree' can be admitted directly to second or third year, no way at all. There was a guy with a Masters degree in Biologic science and tons and tons of research from the US, and he started with us, and got more or less the same exemptions as the rest of us with college credit from the US and diplomas.

[Dr.Evil]

[quote=Dr.Evil]What is ur objection...fact is there are more than a few at DOTE who have transfered into 2nd and 3rd year."

you must be referring to people who had already done work previously in other medical schools in Eastern Europe, then yes its possible, but to say that its possible directly from college or any type of postgraduate work in the US or Canada, directly to second year, or gosh third year... sure people can lie and say that they never did any medical school esp if they failed from another school and are not honest about why or how they are beginning in the second or even third year.....

The ones I remeber who where transfered to 2nd year where coming straight from college, not a med-school. They got stuck with some subjects from 1st year...point is these people where faling into to 2nd year...imagine starting anatomy 2nd year without any previous knowledge...anyway its not like is to their advantage, they have to pay more and the chance of failing is pretty high too,

The one person who I know transfering into 3rd year had failed in Poland I think..

[whattupdog6969]

[quote=whattupdog6969]

The ones I remeber who where transfered to 2nd year where coming straight from college, not a med-school. They got stuck with some subjects from 1st year...point is these people where faling into to 2nd year...imagine starting anatomy 2nd year without any previous knowledge...anyway its not like is to their advantage, they have to pay more and the chance of failing is pretty high too,

The one person who I know transfering into 3rd year had failed in Poland I think..

never ever ever have heard of that, transferring directly into second year, and getting stuck with subjects from the first year, getting exempt from the first year of anatomy may be possible, but that course load would be tremendous in my opinion. Not worth it at all. Havent ever heard of anyone starting second year and then continuing, many many many of us had degrees and not one of us got to do that, and we tried too (admittedly in my case not that hard though - theres WAY too many fine a** Hungarian chicas...... ooooeeeee..... would LOVE to spend an extra year in that paradise - although admittedly not now considering how expensive the cost of living is and so forth - living in a foreign country -but for a couple of weeks or maybe even months that place is just paradise as far as scoping out of the opposite sex is concerned.....)

[akhan586]

Hey Gagan,

I am also from Edmonton. I am currently in Pecs Univeristy, going into my second year, and the school is great. The only problem is that Mr. Ray ******** is indeed a lier and a fraud. Do no listen to anything that he tells you, he is very good at telling us what we want to hear. There is actually no 4 year program, and only a 6 year program. CONTACT THE SCHOOL DIRECTLY!

The school is good otherwise, education is quite good. But if you have a Bsc, I recommed looking at med schools in Poland, specifically Jaigellonian Med School. They have a 4 year program I found out about recently, sounds pretty good.

Good Luck,
akhan 586

[whattupdog6969]

Hey Gagan,

I am also from Edmonton. I am currently in Pecs Univeristy, going into my second year, and the school is great. The only problem is that Mr. Ray ******** is indeed a lier and a fraud. Do no listen to anything that he tells you, he is very good at telling us what we want to hear. There is actually no 4 year program, and only a 6 year program. CONTACT THE SCHOOL DIRECTLY!

The school is good otherwise, education is quite good. But if you have a Bsc, I recommed looking at med schools in Poland, specifically Jaigellonian Med School. They have a 4 year program I found out about recently, sounds pretty good.

Good Luck,
akhan 586

yeah 4 year program might just be your best bet, and have heard good things about both Jag and Poznan. Katowice and Lublin do not even consider.
good luck.