residency and licencing

[kidcohen]

Are Spartan grads allowed to be licenced and do residencies in NY and FL?
If not then where? Also, where are Spartan students allowed to do their clinicals at within the U.S.?

[ZAATARI]

Spartan has many residents in Florida including University of Florida in Gainsville [Surgery]and Jacksonville[family medicine],Spartan has many licensed in Jacksonville[FP],Tampa OB/GYN,new port reche neurology,Ft Mayer hematology,Naples neonatology,coral gables neonatology,Miami Radiology,FP,cardiology,Spartan alumni doing very well in Florida,I myself just left Florida .
regarding New York I myself confused because I read that Spartan grad can"t do residency in NY ,I did residency after applying for resident license to the State of NY,I know at least 10 people did residency and get full unrestricted license in NY so the rules may have changed.
Please check for the boards for current rules.

[greendogz]

UNEQUIVOCALLY, SPARTAN STUDENTS CANNOT DO RESIDENCY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK!!! People can argue about this all they want, but call up the licensing board and they will tell you that Spartan students cannot perform residency in NY.

[shockandawe]

In regard to NY:

Are Spartan grads allowed to be licensed in the state of NY? The answer is UNEQUIVOCALLY YES!!! After completing residency, you can get licensed in NY.

Are Spartan grads allowed to do residency in NY? Technically no, according to the NY state boards. However, the NY boards do not determine who does residency and who does not do residency in the state of NY... They only determine whether you get licensed or not. Rather, it is the NY hospitals that determine who does or does not do residency. After completing a USA residency, you qualify for licensure in the state of NY, regardless of where you did your residency in the USA, whether you do it in NY or FL or Kansas, etc. In order to avoid big fat lawsuits, the state of NY allows qualified Spartan ECFMG certified, residency trained physicians to be licensed, regardless of where they did their residency.

The bottom line is that these state boards push the envelope of discrimination as far as they can and then they back off, just enough, in order to avoid a big coup d'etat... State boards such as NY, IL, and OK have previously been sued and they have lost. For example, in OK, it went to the state supreme court and not only did they lose on the basis of discrimination but their actions were called, by their own supreme court, to be "unconstitutional."

http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?citeID=49099

-s&a

[sean]

Hi guys,

I personally know of 3 people who are currently in residency in New York State. I'm not sure of the state board rules ...but these people are there and are residents so....make of this what u will.

[ZAATARI]

The big joke is when a state board requires "the foreign school must be equivelant to their own state med school],NO med school outside N America can even come close,definetly non in Africa[they are more concern about eating than building 50 million dollar research center],not in the Middle East[most have boycott for yrs with no access to supplies and quality professors leaves[Iraq,Libya,Syria,Sudan],I did visit what is considered the Elite Med school in Saudi Arabia[Marble inside-out building],when I picked up the American patients for transport to US and looked at their managment I was shocked[low salary third world country hired professors],I rather have a BC surgeon from many offshore school operate on me than most of the other international schools or US grad unable to pass the boards with malpractice claims surgeonbelieve me there are thousands of those/see board actions site].
Having said that many schools in the carribeans should not be around.
The most important thing for anyone is to believe in yourself and do not let others put you down,if you are good be proud,during the peak of the CT article I was applying for a license in a state that had all the negative articles and when I went for interview in January the board members told me "you are very talented and our state fortunate to have you",they reviewed me as a doctor regardless of color,origin,or country of graduation.most know that a doctor to be board certified that means according to the board"assure the public that such doctor is an excellent clinician and considered expert in his field"

[shockandawe]

[quote="ZAATARI"]The big joke is when a state board requires "the foreign school must be equivelant to their own state med school],NO med school outside N America can even come close,definetly non in Africa[they are more concern about eating than building 50 million dollar research center],....


The Big Joke, ZAATARI, is that we come from little places and then we get higher board scores, work our hearts off 10 times that of the US grads, contribute to society, publish research, work in places that are underserved, win Doctors of the Year awards and so forth and instead of coming to the understanding that our board scores, our contributions to society, our overall make-up as physicians, are NOT based on which medical school we graduated from, but rather what we make of our experience. It takes 1000 times more guts and hard work to make it from the carib than from a spoonfed US school. Who are these people that make up these ridiculous rules???? US grads..... -s&a