Saba University School of Medicine propaganda, or everything

[Dr Pepper]

No matter what topic you read here, all they are cut by the same model, and the model is to praise all the marvelous things related to this school.

For example, today I opened the one entitled " I had to respond to the Saba California issue" in http://www.valuemd.com/viewtopic.php?t=24422

First of all it is extremely impressive that a medical school on a 5 square mile island in the Carribean had the credentials to even warrant a site visit from California...

Strange, to say the least... This guy comes just to state this...

While in all the other posts, no significant complaints at all, everything is perfect!! Oh, of course some goats are ugly, and some locals are nasty, and some products are expensive, and some Winair pilots are tough, but at the end, everybody is happy.

What a perfect piece of paradise!

Hooray for Saba University School of Medicine, David Fredrick and especially Researching Guy (MC)! Saba and maybe the whole Caribbean would sink into the ocean, if one day SUSOM disappears!

[azskeptic]

No matter what topic you read here, all they are cut by the same model, and the model is to praise all the marvelous things related to this school.

For example, today I opened the one entitled " I had to respond to the Saba California issue" in http://www.valuemd.com/viewtopic.php?t=24422

First of all it is extremely impressive that a medical school on a 5 square mile island in the Carribean had the credentials to even warrant a site visit from California...

Strange, to say the least... This guy comes just to state this...

While in all the other posts, no significant complaints at all, everything is perfect!! Oh, of course some goats are ugly, and some locals are nasty, and some products are expensive, and some Winair pilots are tough, but at the end, everybody is happy.

What a perfect piece of paradise!

Hooray for Saba University School of Medicine, David Fredrick and especially Researching Guy (MC)! Saba and maybe the whole Caribbean would sink into the ocean, if one day SUSOM disappears!

Well, if all of the grads at Saba are like Dr. Scott Jones I'd say hurray....I met him and realize that he is going to make a great MD. Mayos-Scottsdale is a top notch residency.

[Dr Pepper]

Well, if all of the grads at Saba are like Dr. Scott Jones I'd say hurray....I met him and realize that he is going to make a great MD. Mayos-Scottsdale is a top notch residency.

Yes!! We must knee in front of him, of SUSOM, and fight and defeat all those shameless embittered individuals who, in their endless envy and jealousness, dare to say something negative about this school!

:roll:

[WestTexasRN]

Well, if all of the grads at Saba are like Dr. Scott Jones I'd say hurray....I met him and realize that he is going to make a great MD. Mayos-Scottsdale is a top notch residency.

Yes!! We must knee in front of him, of SUSOM, and fight and defeat all those shameless embittered individuals who, in their endless envy and jealousness, dare to say something negative about this school!

:roll:

Dear Dr. Pepper,

Haven't you heard that SABA is really a front for the CIA? What's your motive or is it the caffeine getting to your head. We, the newbies are very lucky to have Dr. Jones (a REAL MD btw) and azskeptic helping us on the forum. Mayo clinic or Johns Hopkin residency is something I can only dream of at present. Finally, as a psych nurse, may I suggest you switching your Haldol to Haldol Dec to ensure compliance.

Have a nice day.

[wolfvgang22]

I think I smell a troll.....but I'll give the benefit of the doubt this once.

One of the reasons I chose Saba is because of the positive "can-do" attitude of the students and alumni I've talked to. I'm sometimes a pessimistic person, and I find such an positive environment empowering and helpful.

But you asked for negative stuff, here's an incomplete list:
Only two small 7-11 type grocery stores
No beaches
Only one gas station
Only one road
Silly sounding name (I know, the island is stuck with "saba"....my friends mispronounce it saww-bah or say-what)
No McDonalds
No Wal-Mart
Outrageous phone costs
Guppy water from cisterns
Cowboy showers
No real gym
No where to really play socccer/football/baseball
No big hardware stores, electronics stores, furniture stores, etc.
Mail takes a year and a day to come and go
Professor turnover (happens at all caribbean schools, I think)
Winair (i think you mentioned that one)
Small town type atmosphere - everyone knows your business and vice-versa
No high speed/wireless internet except in library (except for very expensive DSL which just came on line)
If you are not nice to the phone company guy, you might never get a phone line switched on

I'm sure if I thought harder I could add a lot more, I'm sure others could probably do better.
Maybe Saba does gloss over some of it's problems, in fact I'm sure they do. But I'd choose the positive, helpful atmosphere of Saba over the cut-throat and negative atmosphere of some other places any day of the week.

[azskeptic]

Well, if all of the grads at Saba are like Dr. Scott Jones I'd say hurray....I met him and realize that he is going to make a great MD. Mayos-Scottsdale is a top notch residency.

Yes!! We must knee in front of him, of SUSOM, and fight and defeat all those shameless embittered individuals who, in their endless envy and jealousness, dare to say something negative about this school!

:roll:

hmmm....ok, let's get through the bitterness and go on. You haven't had a lot of posts yet so sometimes it helps to get it out in the beginning and then settle down to a productive role as one of the forum members....PM me if you want to get nasty...on the forum just be pleasant or post some specific concerns and see how the group helps you.

[classic]

WolfCowboy showers
Okay, I wasn't informed about that :shock:
I'm just leery of that sorty thing-- who wants a cowboy in their shower?? :? So are you gonna bring me one to put in my shower if I PM you about it Wolf? (I mean, you are in TX and it wouldn't be too much of a burden to bring one with you in May for me. I'd even buck up for the shipping :D )

[Stitches]

Don't forget about not being able to flush things down the toilet (with certain exceptions of course :) ). Ah well, i'll live. And the reason everything is so positive here is because...well, you just gotta visit this place. Ppl are extremely polite here. Your arm kind of gets tired from all the waving though.

[wolfvgang22]

WolfCowboy showers
Okay, I wasn't informed about that :shock:
I'm just leery of that sorty thing-- who wants a cowboy in their shower?? :? So are you gonna bring me one to put in my shower if I PM you about it Wolf? (I mean, you are in TX and it wouldn't be too much of a burden to bring one with you in May for me. I'd even buck up for the shipping :D )
Aw, shucks, ma'am, yore embarassin' me....
http://img22.exs.cx/img22/1974/bod.jpg

[Bamaguy(formerly RWL22)]

No matter what topic you read here, all they are cut by the same model, and the model is to praise all the marvelous things related to this school.

For example, today I opened the one entitled " I had to respond to the Saba California issue" in http://www.valuemd.com/viewtopic.php?t=24422

First of all it is extremely impressive that a medical school on a 5 square mile island in the Carribean had the credentials to even warrant a site visit from California...

Strange, to say the least... This guy comes just to state this...

While in all the other posts, no significant complaints at all, everything is perfect!! Oh, of course some goats are ugly, and some locals are nasty, and some products are expensive, and some Winair pilots are tough, but at the end, everybody is happy.

What a perfect piece of paradise!

Hooray for Saba University School of Medicine, David Fredrick and especially Researching Guy (MC)! Saba and maybe the whole Caribbean would sink into the ocean, if one day SUSOM disappears!

You seem to have a little bit of unresolved anger. Why so bitter?

[Dr Pepper]

As expected, the topic was spoiled by the paid propagandists and their accomplices to stop any kind of deeply examination or at least to explore the complaints we hear everyday on campus. But if everybody is faking happiness, so be it!

And now, Robert Love talking about embitterment…! :roll:

[justadude]

Oh my, arn't those some nifty qualifications. PPL, nurses in psych, geri/psych or any other psych fields are just nurses that couldn't nurse themselves out of a paper bag. It's much like medicine, they used to push the dangerous DOCS into psychiatry...And by the way westtxrn, this is a restraint free forum. I'm not siding either way on the original posts but thought that i would never have to listen to another under educated RN slap another haldol reference...Update HONEY, use seroquel, risperdal, abilify, zyprexa...

[WestTexasRN]

Oh my, arn't those some nifty qualifications. PPL, nurses in psych, geri/psych or any other psych fields are just nurses that couldn't nurse themselves out of a paper bag. It's much like medicine, they used to push the dangerous DOCS into psychiatry...And by the way westtxrn, this is a restraint free forum. I'm not siding either way on the original posts but thought that i would never have to listen to another under educated RN slap another haldol reference...Update HONEY, use seroquel, risperdal, abilify, zyprexa...

If you read my previous post more carefully, I emphasized "compliance." So tell me, did Seroquel, Risperdal, Abilify or Zyprexa came out with a monthly injection form?? Did you tried Geodon lately? I agree, this is a restraint free forum. Like your opinion of "under educated RN," let me put it this way, like a rectum, everyone is entitled to have one, including you DUDE!

Have a wonderful blue ribbon Viagra day!

[wolfvgang22]

Well, I'm not paid (my background is posted all over the place around here), moderator researchingguy isn't paid and is just a student, WestTexasRN rarely even posts on this forum, same for bamaguy, stitches is just a student, classic is just another poster like me waiting to arrive at the school, and everybody knows who azskeptic is.......so just who here is getting paid? And where can I sign up? :lol:

If I'm supposed to be getting paid, and somehow got left out, can I just roll over what I was supposed to get and get my tuition for free.....thanks. 8)

[azskeptic]

Well, I'm not paid (my background is posted all over the place around here), moderator researchingguy isn't paid and is just a student, WestTexasRN rarely even posts on this forum, same for bamaguy, stitches is just a student, classic is just another poster like me waiting to arrive at the school, and everybody knows who azskeptic is.......so just who here is getting paid? And where can I sign up? :lol:

If I'm supposed to be getting paid, and somehow got left out, can I just roll over what I was supposed to get and get my tuition for free.....thanks. 8)

it is the Masonic/Jewish/conspiracy and you just aren't acknowleding your pay or is it the large Pharmaceutical companies (favorite whipping boy of the alt med folks).....you just haven't found the paymaster yet......

[wolfvgang22]

Oh, that explains why I missed the boat....you know how I feel about that Masonic stuff. Darn secret societies..... :lol:

[swinginislanddoc]

Payment?! Does that happen when one becomes an "Ultimate Member"? How many more posts until I get there?!

Dr. Pepper, not sure who you are, although you may know who I am. You may then also know that I'm on SGA. Yes, some stuff sucks, especially the gym situation, but I'm not sure why you're complaining on here rather than going to people who can do something about it, like Dr. Paton or admin, or even going to the SGA. Believe it or not we are working to get some changes made here on campus, including hounding those in charge back in the states. Also rest assured that you've got a group (including Dr. Paton, who's great at this - I've read his messages to home office) who will not just back off and take silence as an answer for the issues here on campus.

I wouldn't say any place is perfect at all. If anyone comes from this board thinking that they've found a "perfect" place then they're seriously delusional - even a US med school isn't perfect. If you want to rant, find me on campus, or actually state what it is you're so irked about.

If, after all, it's so bad, then why are you staying?

~S 8)

[ducman]

Well put Swing

[swinginislanddoc]

Payment?! Does that happen when one becomes an "Ultimate Member"? How many more posts until I get there?!

Dr. Pepper, not sure who you are, although you may know who I am. You may then also know that I'm on SGA. Yes, some stuff sucks, especially the gym situation, but I'm not sure why you're complaining on here rather than going to people who can do something about it, like Dr. Paton or admin, or even going to the SGA. Believe it or not we are working to get some changes made here on campus, including hounding those in charge back in the states. Also rest assured that you've got a group (including Dr. Paton, who's great at this - I've read his messages to home office) who will not just back off and take silence as an answer for the issues here on campus.

I wouldn't say any place is perfect at all. If anyone comes from this board thinking that they've found a "perfect" place then they're seriously delusional - even a US med school isn't perfect. If you want to rant, find me on campus, or actually state what it is you're so irked about.

If, after all, it's so bad, then why are you staying?

~S 8)

[petenwe]

he said paid to fake happiness, very very funny. Pls can you tell us which school you went to.

[Bamaguy(formerly RWL22)]

As expected, the topic was spoiled by the paid propagandists and their accomplices to stop any kind of deeply examination or at least to explore the complaints we hear everyday on campus. But if everybody is faking happiness, so be it!

And now, Robert Love talking about embitterment…! :roll:

paid propagandist? I wish. If you'd actually examine my post posts from a couple of pages back I admitted that this place wasn't perfect at all. And I invited anybody who wanted to talk about the pros and cons to PM me. Unfortunatly, it's the kind of post that you made that is redundant. Nobody on here is "paid" or a "Propagandist" and if you know me you know I'm an individual who calls it like he sees it.

I'm sorry you're unhappy with Saba. No, I don't think this place is for everybody. So maybe you will be better off somehere else.

[wolfvgang22]

No, I don't think this place is for anybody.
That's kinda harsh, pardner....I think Swing likes it there :lol:

[Stitches]

This guy in the dorm left after the first day of class because he didn't like it here, so no, of course Saba isn't for everyone. If you don't like it here, Dr.Pepper, you should've packed up a long time ago. Why are you on this forum whining? You should be addressing your issues with SGA. We just had a dorm meeting addressing a whole bunch of issues that needed some attention (gym equipment being one of them); so go to your class rep and voice your opinion to him/her. If you don't actually attend Saba, stop trolling around, because you have to be on the island to know it.

[justadude]

Ok, westtxrn maybe i penetrated before i lubricated. But, I am not amused at your lingoistics. First, it shows a real sense of disrespect to your own patient population. That you would slam someone you don't know with a remark like that demonstrates a demeaning attitude toward psych patients and the problems they possess. Perhaps you should try and upgrade your skills and work in an area that is less subjective and a little more objective. You see, you're not the only health care person here and nursing school humor is truely not appropriate.

Cheers

[Dr Pepper]

Dr. Pepper, not sure who you are, although you may know who I am. You may then also know that I'm on SGA. Yes, some stuff sucks, especially the gym situation, but I'm not sure why you're complaining on here rather than going to people who can do something about it, like Dr. Paton or admin, or even going to the SGA. Believe it or not we are working to get some changes made here on campus, including hounding those in charge back in the states. Also rest assured that you've got a group (including Dr. Paton, who's great at this - I've read his messages to home office) who will not just back off and take silence as an answer for the issues here on campus.

I wouldn't say any place is perfect at all. If anyone comes from this board thinking that they've found a "perfect" place then they're seriously delusional - even a US med school isn't perfect. If you want to rant, find me on campus, or actually state what it is you're so irked about.

If, after all, it's so bad, then why are you staying?

~S 8)
All discussions addressing the lack of freedom in this forum end on that, no Shauna? Then what is this forum for? Just to praise the Gardner people and say how marvelous is everything?

"If you want to rant, find me on campus, or actually state what it is you're so irked about."... this one could be the motto for the useless SGA. So the gym situation is the only thing that “irks” you? Give me a break! In this forum everything is reduced to the old "love it or leave it" also applies to... oh, forget it, and better continue playing with your mates at the vanity fair known as SGA.

No, I don't think this place is for anybody.

Robbie, please cool down and realize the nonsense you usually write.

[wolfvgang22]

If you have a problem with Saba, why don't you tell us all what it is?

If it's a legitimate problem, then prospective students should be warned about what to expect, and current students should be made aware, and given the opportunity to do something about it. If nothing is done, well, you haven't lost anything, have you?

If you are just venting, say so and we'll get off your back about it.

Vaya con dios....
-W

[petenwe]

well said wolfvgang22 cause i will like to know too.

[classic]

I agree with wolf and peter, Dr.P- if you have a problem with the school or the island or the SGA reps or whatever the heck is wrong pertaining to SUSOM please be specific. No one will condemn you if you just assert what the problem is. Most people are open-minded about listening. SO JUST TELL US WHAT THE PROBLEM IS DR. PEPPER Or stop complaining.

[swinginislanddoc]

Dr. Pepper,

I would like to ask you when it was that it was stated that you were not allowed to post anything negative. Not one single time have I told you that you could not post your feelings on the board. I actually encouraged you to STATE what it is that has bothered you so much about the school, island, campus, people, etc, and instead you still stand back and launch attacks on the people on the message board. I’m still waiting to read what you’re upset about pertaining to the school, as yet all I have read is that you’re mad that noone is saying anything negative.

If you think I’m here to praise Gardner, think again. If you would like to hear my personal thoughts on individuals “higher up” at this school, I once again invite you to come find me, as you obviously know who I am. I am at a disadvantage in that I don’t know who you are, although I can narrow it down based on your posting history. I know I’m not alone in believing that if you’re going to take a stand, don’t attempt to do so anonymously. It shows a lack of courage and it appears that you are all talk and no action. You want something at this school changed? Do something about it. I am. You want people to post the negative issues here at the school? Then DO IT. I simply choose to do something about the problems rather than running to the forum to complain about them – that’s why you rarely see a post from me complaining about the school. I’m not even a member of the gym, so that is low on the list of what “irks” me. You want to know what “irks” me? Ask me. In the mean time, do what you came here to do and post.

The personal attacks on the people on this website WILL NOT be tolerated. This message board is meant to be a sounding board about issues to do with the school, not your personal issues or opinions about your fellow students. If you have a problem with me or with anyone else at this school, confront either myself or that person like a mature adult in a professional setting rather than flinging your (anonymous) attacks – the sarcastic tone within your posts are not appreciated. If there is one thing I have absolutely no patience for it is immaturity.

I never said, “Love it or leave it.” I simply asked that if this place is so horrible, why are you here? If Saba is such a horrible school, why are you staking your reputation as a physician on it?

Why do you continue to misread people’s posts? I have read several of your replies to other’s posts that imply things that were not said. And once again, why are you so afraid to reveal your identity?

And once again, noone is paid to post here. I get no benefits except to meet those students coming in that I spoke with on the board.

~Shauna

[Bamaguy(formerly RWL22)]

OK OK so I type fast. This a message board anyway so he gives a ----

As for you Dr. Pepper, I'm pretty sure I know who you are. I'm not going to reveal your name because if I'm wrong I don't want to blast an innocent person on the internet. But I realize you had some health problems while you were here and I'm sorry you left so unhappy. Hopefully things will go better for you where you are now.

[Stitches]

Remember how I mentioned that there was one guy in first semester who couldn't adjust so he left? Well, wouldn't it be funny if Dr. Pepper was him? Well, you know what, whoever you are, please be more specific about your complaints here on this forum, 'cause so far, all I know is that you hate it when other people are happy. That must suck, but i can't do anything about that...well, actually i had a rough day today...does that make you feel better? :roll:

[ducman]

Maybe I can get this started honestly!

I am upset and concerned at the fact that Saba (Gardner) told us and continues to tell us that the starting class size is 45-50. When I have visited the island and verified that it shall be 75 for the January semester!

There are numerous issues with that:

1) I know the school is putting in the 75th computer in the testing center - so that is covered
2) Will the class size get ridiculously big
3) Can the small anatomy lab and each cadaver handle the class size
4) The dorm shall definitely not have enough space so many first-termers shall be placed off campus (eventhough the dorm is off - campus across the road from the school)
5) I realize that one does have the option to secure their own core clinical rotations, but if that is an issue - the school shall secure them for you. So, does the school plan on increasing its hospital affiliations in order to accomodate more students?

Whew... now - does anybody else have any comments, feedback, etc...

Wolf - I hope this got the discussion going as we use to have in the old days! :D

[swinginislanddoc]

Stitches,
I don't think I've met you yet.

Anyway, it wasn't whomever was in your class - Dr. P was here and went through second semester - a previous quote given last semester on this very message board was a quote from one of our physio profs here at Saba.

There was also some wrong information posted about Hantavirus, but that was resolved.

~S

[Dr Pepper]

Finally Ducman is addressing important concerns, so far ignored and even hidden by the paid propagandists and their accomplices. I agree with many things of what he said, but I differ in one: The computer lab situation is far from being good. Even if there are enough computers, the space is too small and overcrowded. Medical students sometimes cheat, didn't you know?

But he had the guts to say something! Meanwhile…


Why do you continue to misread people’s posts?

Exactly! Why do you usually, in your endless and always unsuccessful attempt to be popular, do not realize that I never bashed SUSOM? I have never said that is a lousy school, and that I regret my decision. I said that there are many problems, as you can read in what I answered to Scott "MD" and others. But forget it! You are so immature that the problems are beyond your comprehension. Better solve gym situations and please your cheerleaders in this forum.

[classic]

Dr. Pepper Medical students sometimes cheat, didn't you know?

Obviously you didn't cheat when it came to knowing there's Hantavirus in the carribean as well as some other fungal infections :o
So other than the computer lab being overcrowded, what exactly are your other issues with SUSOM Dr. Pepper?

[Dr Pepper]

Obviously you didn't cheat when it came to knowing there's Hantavirus in the carribean as well as some other fungal infections :o

In http://www.valuemd.com/viewtopic.php?t=23850 you wrote

Okay Wolf, are you saying that the locals eat each other like that cannabalistic New Zeland tribe?

Kuru is related to that practice (cannibalism, no cannabalism) that used to happen in New Guinea.

Oh, you are very welcome!

[classic]

Yeah, and I knew Kuru was practiced by that tribe in New Zeland. Did you think I was guessing? :roll:
What's your point Dr. P?

[classic]

Sorry about the misspelling everyone. I'm sure that everyone is having a big laugh at my expense.
My apologies to those cannibals in New Zeland who didn't get Kuru, but the cannibals in New Guinea who did.
I'm sure I'll never be as wise and paranoid as Dr. P. (a girl can only dream though :roll: )

Enough with the personal attacks though (even if you have at me again Dr. P); I should never have responded to your post (how pointless :? ).

[microphage]

Enough with the personal attacks though (even if you have at me again Dr. P); I should never have responded to your post (how pointless :? ).

Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids..

[swinginislanddoc]

Dr. P,
You obviously don't know me as well as you think you do, because being popular has never been my intention here in medical school.

Once again, I'm waiting for you to step up to the plate and show some courage. You know where to find me.

[wolfvgang22]

Finally Ducman is addressing important concerns, so far ignored and even hidden by the paid propagandists and their accomplices. I agree with many things of what he said, but I differ in one: The computer lab situation is far from being good. Even if there are enough computers, the space is too small and overcrowded. Medical students sometimes cheat, didn't you know?

But he had the guts to say something!
Ducman re-posted the concerns he mentioned in a seperate thread in this forum precisely so it would not get lost in this slam-fest. I responded to my take on the computer issue specifically.
http://www.valuemd.com/viewtopic.php?t=24754
Once again, if you have concerns or an actual opinion, please state your case and make yourself relevant. If not....

Classic, you can spell New Guinea as New Zeland if you want too, you've earned it! :lol:

[ResearchingGuy]

First of all, I'd like to thank Dr. Pepper for the "hooray":

Hooray for Saba University School of Medicine, David Fredrick and especially Researching Guy (MC)! Saba and maybe the whole Caribbean would sink into the ocean, if one day SUSOM disappears!

It makes me feel really special.

I would also like to say that SID is definitely NOT popular except maybe with the chickens in the cafeteria.

I thought Dr. Pepper was still here (third semester). I recall previous posts expressing some concerns about school, but he has never been too specific.

I encourage everyone to bring up specific points and support them. If you look around this forum, I don't think you will find any place where I've said that Saba (the school or the island) are perfect. Most all of my posts are positive because my experience here has been positive.

I can also remember only two times when I have edited a post and that was because the poster had violated terms of service by mentioning someone's name (one was a particularly heinous accusation). I simply "x'd" out the names.

I particularly dislike censorship. I feel that once a forum is censored it is worthless. I do believe that we should behave in a responsible and constructive way, but pretty much all subjects should be fair game.

Dr. Pepper, if you want to tell us what you feel about specifics, start the debate. I think it would be great. Just remember the ground rules.

BTW, I think the list already put forth by ducman is a pretty good start.

Who has more?

Best of Luck!

[Stitches]

I like Ducman's list, it's a good start...and he's not even on the island yet! And regarding cheating in med school: There's no bell-curve (at least in first semester), so you can cheat all you want in the little computer room, but when it comes to the USMLE, you're just gonna get slaughtered. Bottom line is "don't cheat yourself." Size of computer room is at the bottom of MY list. Trying to get paid here for some propaganda work, however, is at the top :wink:

swingingislanddoc, i guess you haven't met me yet because i usually just come and go. The dorm is my little bubble...formerly the library, but it gets too cold there, so now it's the dorm. If you're ever in the gym or cafeteria, look for the china-man, there's not many of us on the island LOL

[swinginislanddoc]

I think I was just standing right beside you this morning in the gazebo - was that you? I was ranting on and on about the pharm exam to my roommate and to anencephalic.

Maybe that was another "china man". :P

I'm the tall dark haired with red highlights woman, usually acting a little neurotic.

~S 8)

[microphage]

I'm the tall dark haired with red <a target=new href="http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=c97WUMRO5hY&offerid=47491.10000209&type=2&subid=0" >Highlights</a>http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=c97WUMRO5hY&bids=47491&type=2&subid=0 woman, usually acting a little neurotic.

~S 8)

Ah yes, the type all men dream about...

[swinginislanddoc]

I'm in demand with the man, doncha know?

Of course they only stay about 2 seconds then run for their lives... *sigh*

Go study your MOAs on those blockers buddy! Remember, labetalol has both alpha AND beta effects. sneaky sneaky...

~S The neurotic one 8)

[etomidate]

Honestly on these boards, I see people who I seriously doubt have maturity to be a physician. Computer lab size? Geez when I was on the island we had a few computers in the old "library". We had no air conditioning in most of the classrooms, no cafeteria, Guido's (let him rest in peace) gym was always smelly, overcrowded and the equipment was all rusted. Didn't bother the guy in the class ahead of me who was a regional level competative bodybuilder. And 99% of us graduated and went on to residency.

You're on the island for one reason. You didn't get into a US or Canadian school. Your job is to study hard and get ready to crush the USMLE. If you want paradise don't go to Saba. In fact don't go to Ross either. Unless things have changed there, they take 250 students in each class and flunk out 2/3-3/4's. Try AUC and wind up doing your cores in GB or Ireland. Even SGU "The Harvard" of the caribbean is no paradise. One of my friends was stabbed there by the friendly locals.

I am not a paid propagandist. I'm a Saba grad who is just finishing residency and will give you real honest answers. Does the school have problems? Of course it does, but if you keep your eye on the goal ..M.D. and a residency, it makes things much clearer. One of my professors at Saba, Steve Deschner who also taught at U Mass, put it best: "A caribbean school is a ticket to the big show..the USMLE". if you remember that little mantra, everything else becomes secondary


Finally, if you think basic sciences on the rock are hard, just WAIT until you start residency.

[ResearchingGuy]

Thanks for the "wake up and smell the coffee" speech. I'm heading back to study Path.

Best of Luck to Us All!