Spartan Licensed in Texas?

[TTUmed]

Im very interested in Spartan, but i'm unsure if I'd be able to practice in Texas. I've read posts that contradict each other, and basically have me running around trying to figure out if Spartan grads can get licensed in TX. I've just read, 'banned', 'might be approved', license only if...' blah blah...lots of people bash every school on here...prolly dont have anything better to do and probably post innacurate stuff, but then I read what Spartan grads post and they're doing well, so i dont know what to believe. Anyway..I found this: "Schools from which the board has licensed: "30601 ST LUCIA HEALTH SCI UNIV (FORMERLY SPARTAN UNIV), CASTRIES"
What's that all about...St. Lucia, formerly spartan? here's the link: http://www.tsbme.state.tx.us/professionals/docinfo/ReportSchoolsLicensed.rtf

scroll down to '30601'

[shockandawe]

Its the other way around, St. Lucia School of medicine was the former name and now it is Spartan health sciences...

I have spartan freinds whom are currently doing their residencies in Texas and I know current licensed grads. The professor, a visitor to this forum is Texas licensed..

A while back, I called the Texas state licensing boards myself and I asked them if spartan grads can be licensed in Texas. I understand what you are saying, because it was very hard to get a straight answer from them. On the other hand, Spartan's Nobel prize invitee did his fellowship in Texas at MD Anderson.. -s&a

[TTUmed]

Yeah, I dont understand how Texas gives the caribbean students a hard time. If they pass USMLE1,2 clinicals etc., IMG's should be considered competent, shouldn't they? Texas has licensed IMG's from many developing countries, who most probably didn't do their clinicals in US.

11800 AFGHANISTAN
16000 BANGLADESH
17000 BENIN
20900 MYANMAR (BURMA)
36600 ETHIOPIA
41200 GHANA
57700 KENYA

and the list goes on...plus more 3rd world countries.... I dont get it...What do they have that Spartan doesn't have...TEXAS sucks :-/

[shockandawe]

You are right and the same is true for california... It isn't fair at all... Oklahoma tried to do the same thing and the state boards were sued and it went to the state supreme court and the supreme court found this kind of prejudism unconstitutional!!! The OK state boards learned their lesson.

Look here:

http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?citeID=49099

-s&a

[wolfvgang22]

You might be able to get licensed in Texas if you go to Spartan, but make sure you read TSBME rules for licensure at:
http://www.tsbme.state.tx.us/rules/mpa/chapter155.htm#155004
Keep in mind licensure rules can change every 6 months or so.

You'd want to make sure you do a family practice clinical rotation, as well as one in neurology. You can't do any clinicals in Texas and then get licensed unless you are registered as a visiting student at a Texas medical school when you do the clinicals. All clinicals must be ACGME clinicals in the department you do your clinical.

It would probably be wise to retain an attorney experienced in Texas licensure matters when applying for licensure in Texas, as Texas deals with IMGs on a case-by-case basis and even Ross and SGU students have troubles sometimes with Texas.

Texas is very xenophobic when it comes to caribbean grads in particular, so you have to dot every i and cross every t when it comes to applying for licensure there. They can, and will, deny you licensure just because they don't like you and cite your medical school being rejected for licensure back in 1970 as the excuse.
Don't believe me? That's ok, but don't say you weren't warned. 8)
Good Luck!

[dallasdoll]

Texas our Texas
All hail the mighty state
Texas our Texas
So wonderful so great
Boldest and grandest
withstanding every test
o empire wide and glorious
you stand supremely blessed
god bless you texas
and keep you safe and strong
that you may grow in power and worth
throughout the ages long

and my own verse...

God bless you texas
My loyalty to thee
So when I come before you
license me, an IMG!

[wolfvgang22]

That last verse is hilarious.....always good to meet another proud Texan! :lol:

[dallasdoll]

The stars at night are big and bright
(clap clap clap clap)
deep in the heart of texas

The sage in bloom is like perfume
(clap clap clap clap)
deep in the heart of texas

The prairie sky is wide and high
(clap clap clap clap)
deep in the heart of texas

reminds me of the one i love
(clap clap clap clap)
deep in the heart of texas

and my own additions here...

The caribbean called when my prospects had stalled
(clap clap clap clap)
deep in the heart of texas

So the licensing board doesnt like me my Lord
(clap clap clap clap)
deep in the heart of texas

But once they see me i'll get a license you'll see
(clap clap clap clap)
DEEP IN THE HEART OF TEXAS!!

[Linus]

I am not sure about sparta but i know for ross grads you can do a resideny in texas you just wont be liscenced there after the residency is over. So you can work your *** off as a resident but after that you are not good enough to continue to work for them.

[wolfvgang22]

I am not sure about sparta but i know for ross grads you can do a resideny in texas you just wont be liscenced there after the residency is over. So you can work your gluteal off as a resident but after that you are not good enough to continue to work for them.
Yes, this happened to a Saba grad I know as well. Ended up in Tennesee.

[TTUmed]

wolfvgang22, you said
''All clinicals must be ACGME clinicals in the department you do your clinical''
....does this mean that, for example, if i wanted to do a Family medicine, pediatrics, OB/GYN clinical at ONE HOSPITAL (although highly unlikely), then the hospital must have an ACGME residency program in FM, PD, and OB/GYN?[/quote]

[wolfvgang22]

That's exactly what I'm saying.

[ZAATARI]

Texas if difficult but fair state.Spartan has many grads practicing in Texas A & M univ,Southwestern med center,Univ TX Austin,...and many more.The State changing its rules and as of now the applicant has to prove to the board that their med school education similar to Univ TX education[no school outside America can even get close to this],if you go to the Texas board site and review the last meeting minutes you will see an applicant who graduated from unapproved school and requested hearing,the board granted him license and exception on the basis of quality residency completion and board certification.It does not need all of this big fuss to review schools or unfairness its simple:if a board wants to assure the safety of the public then no unapproved doctor can practice unless an American speciality board certifies him/her as expert in their field also called board certification,starting to police the international medical communities will never work[Bush tried to police the world and it just not working].

[wolfvgang22]

if you go to the Texas board site and review the last meeting minutes you will see an applicant who graduated from unapproved school and requested hearing,the board granted him license and exception on the basis of quality residency completion and board certification
Absolutely true.

(And with that profoundly astute observation, I break the 1000 post mark...)
8)