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SGU Admissions Dean
09-09-2004, 01:28 AM
For some reason that thread was locked so I have started another....

To name your “information message” Student Casualties, attacks, rioting is an act of unmitigated cruelty to the loved ones of students at the University. In the aftermath of this category four hurricane, we need to stay calm, discover facts, and disseminate true information rationally. This is not spin. This is reality.

Yes, there have been reports of a dead body found in the water. This body has not been identified as a medical student. We have no reports of students injured or dead. If, in fact, we were to learn of injuries or deaths among the student population, the families would be notified immediately and afterwards the student population.

It is a disservice to pepper this forum with rumors and innuendo. The only effect of coming onto a forum like this, which is filled with nervous and anxious parents and loved ones, and posting a mixture of rumors with misaligned facts (that always abound in any emergency situation) is to fill loved ones with totally unnecessary anxiety. It is cruel. This administration prides itself on being truthful and caring at all times, especially during rare emergencies, and will continue to be just so throughout this current emergency.

There are reports of armed looting in the capital and in the supermarkets. However, we have not heard of students being harmed, nor have there been looters or strangers on campus. The majority of the students are on the True Blue campus where there is water, food, and shelter, and security guards as well as University administrators.

University officials have been in contact with the U.S. State Department. Late yesterday, they were advised that personnel will be dispatched to Grenada later today, either by boat or plane, to assist in police activities as well as to look after the interests of U.S. citizens in Grenada.

Of course there is damage to the buildings after a Category 4 hurricane. However, as far as we can tell at the moment, there is no structural damage and we will have engineers assessing the buildings just as soon as possible.

Administrators are on campus, have met with students, will meet with students again later today, have sorted people into living spaces, deployed vehicles off campus to find students and bring them to campus, have fed the students and provided water, have provided open telephone lines and encouraged students to call home, have communicated with administrators in Grenada, St. Vincent and the U.S., are dealing with the intricacies of returning power to the campus safely (which should begin tomorrow), are overseeing security guards at the True Blue Campus and sent guards to the Grand Anse Campus even though that campus was evacuated Monday night. Your misleading complaint of “no medical attention” is confusing because no one is in need of medical attention and it will be provided should it become necessary. Simply making your statement just engenders fear.

Of course the University wishes to resume studies as soon as it is safely possible. The majority of the students at yesterday’s meeting wanted this as well. We will do what we can and are assessing this as we dig out from under Ivan's effect.

It is incumbent upon each of us in a time of disaster to find out what we can, disseminate what we know in a rational fashion, and to refrain from uncorroborated scary statements.

Cuando2
09-09-2004, 01:38 AM
are you currently located in Grenada, or are you posting/relaying information from the US?

Cuando2
09-09-2004, 01:41 AM
i agree...the poster "bertc" labeled the thread "student casualties...." and then started off the thread posting by saying that the body was not even ID'ed as a student as of yet. way to contradict oneself.

bertc
09-09-2004, 02:31 AM
I agree that we all do need to stay calm and discover the facts. However, it is our responsibility to discern the reality of what is going on with our loved ones, and what SGU chooses to, as you say, 'disseminate.'

If parents want to hear the widely confirmed facts of the matter, they can simply go to any available news source or the SGU website. This message board is here for us to share and discuss our own personal experiences, including hearsay if that be the case. It is blatantly apparent from the MANY posts that parents have heard accounts from their own children that differ greatly from the precisely worded statements released by SGU.

Posts on this board have alerted parents about these important facts FAR before they were ever confirmed or alluded to by the news or SGU:
- loss of critical resources
- a lack of communication with students and the ensuing confusion
- the mass rioting and looting on the island
- locals armed with weapons
- students preparing to defend themselves
- the U.S. State dept. dispatching personnel

This message board has also 'mislead and engendered fear' by pointing out facts that SGU may never admit to:
- professors insisting students delay their storm preparation for 2 hours to listen to the remainder of a class lecture
- storm warnings told by professors in a whimsical manner that didn't reflect the severity of a hurricane, or even the word: 'hurricane'
- a complete lack of communication to students in some buildings for 24-36 hours after the hurricane hit
- staff without access to a backup complete student list so that all students could be accounted for

Would you like to know that a dead body was found in the water even if it's not your child? I would. SGU says that you should not hear it until they have identified the body... of course, if it was a local Grenadian, chances are it would be readily apparent, wouldn't it?

If you read carefully, the SGU bulletins simply tell us what steps are being taken, not what has really been remedied. And they still don't address the students that have not been accounted for. If ALL students were being encouraged to use the readily available telephone, I assume all parents have already heard from their children?

Would you like to wait until CNN or SGU tells you what's going on? If so, please don't read these 'rumors' and wait until you find out about the hard facts in the news. But the fact of the matter is that this message board is OUR place to share what we find out from our own loved ones who are out there enduring the pain, yes pain, of this whole disaster. And our place to express our feelings and fears no matter how much the school would like us to ignore those human shortcomings.

azskeptic
09-09-2004, 06:02 AM
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2004/09/08/ivan_jamaica040908.html?email

ducman
09-09-2004, 07:22 AM
"Students at St. George's University, which overlooks the Grenadian capital, hid under mattresses or in bathrooms. "The pipes were whistling, the doors were vibrating, gusts were coming underneath the window," said Sonya Lazarevic, a first-year students from New York.

"It looks like a landslide happened," said another student, Nicole Organ, 21, of Toronto "There are all these colors coming down the mountainside -- sheets of metal, pieces of shacks, roofs came off in layers."

She said that the danger didn't end with the winds. Organ said she wandered downtown later and saw bands of machete-wielding men looting a hardware store.

Lazarevic said the mostly American student body was arming with knives, sticks and pepper spray for fear that looters would move into areas near the school.

"We don't feel safe," she told The Associated Press by telephone.

Grenada Police Commissioner Roy Bedaau said every police station in the country had been damaged, hindering efforts to control the looting. He said other Caribbean countries were sending troops to help patrol."


GOD BLESS THEM ALL - TAKE CARE AND KEEP US UPDATED!

stephew
09-09-2004, 08:03 AM
again, I am locking these threads and linking to one main Hurricaine source therad. Everyone (including sgu officials kindly post there.) Below.

http://www.valuemd.com/viewtopic.php?t=23935