Medical Licensure

[kernb]

Are there any obstacles to becoming a licensed physisian coming from SGU that we should be aware of? Are there any extra procedures? I'd really like to hear from Steph in particular--what did you do and have to go through? Thanks,

[Nimitt]

I am not steph but I can put my two cents! Texas and California require rotations in Family practice and Texas also requires rotation in Neurology in order to get licensed in those states. Also California and other states requires certain forms to be filled out after every rotation you do (Cali form is L6). Texas also has requirements that state that you cant do any rotations outside your school affiliated hospitals. Those are some of the loops that I can remember. THe best and I mean the best way to find out is to go to whatever state's board of medical examiners website and find out from there the requirements for licensure. For instance for texas you would go to the texas board of medical examiners. It is likely you will come across alot of wordy policies that will confuse you but then the best thing to do is email the contact person on the website.

Nimitt
4th year
SGU SOM

[stephew]

Are there any obstacles to becoming a licensed physisian coming from SGU that we should be aware of? Are there any extra procedures? I'd really like to hear from Steph in particular--what did you do and have to go through? Thanks,Nimitt pretty much has it right; there is generally no problem and sgu permitts licensure in all 50 states BUT! Texas (yee-haw) isn't not IMG friendly and often after you complete everything they've asked you to do, they throw in something else at a whim; they are inclined even at times to nitpick and find deficencies that you've not thought of, like yes you did neuro but ah-a it was a rotation ACGME affiliated through medicine, not through neurology itself; and you can't do away electives. And... whatever else.
So if you MUST go to texas, it may be hard; its easier if youve been licensed in another state already. Sometimes. Sometimes not.
But other than texas, its kosher.
also I believe PA wont let you do outside affiliated eithe rbut i forget if thats for residency, licensure or both.
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[stacy_de_lin]

I am not steph but I can put my two cents! Texas and California require rotations in Family practice


So, let me get this straight.... if you complete all your rotations in NY, do a residency wherever (say New York again), and then are a licensed, attending physician somewhere, California will deny you the right to practice in that state if you didn't do your family practice rotation in your third year of medical school there? Are there any exceptions to this?

I understand that it is a big pain in the **** to get licensed there and I had planned to do all of my rotations at Green Book schools, however, I planned to do rotations in NY. I want to know that if for some reason I wanted to move to CA in the future, I wouldn't be barred from practicing there without exception if I didn't do my FP there.

Help! Thanks!

[Nimitt]

You dont have to do the FP or neuro at a hospital in Cali so long as you have done the rotation at a ACGME approved program even if its in NY.
YOu brought up a good point: what if you are licensed in another state and want to get licensed in Texas or Cali what happens if you dont fulfill the rotations requirement?

Nimitt
4th year
SGU SOM

[Picard]

I believe the "rotation deficiency" in Texas can be remedied with board certification in your specialty. Besides, even if didn't do neuro elective in medical school, you most likely did it in residency... I spent two months on neuro service when I was a resident. And that should fulfill TX neuro requirement.

As for California FP requirement -- I don't believe there is any way around it... doesn't matter if you are an IMG or US grad. You need 4 weeks of FP, period. It doesn't need to be done in California. But it needs to be done before they give you a license. Being licensed/boarded elsewhere probably won't get you around this in California. Welcome to People's Republik of Kalifornia. (So, what's the difference between PRK and PRC (China)? One is a backward communist hellhole, the other is a country in Asia.)

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[IDreamOfMedicine]

hi Picard :D wow ur so nice on these boards. i guess they gotta see the real side of u on the St. Chris forum huh? glad to know that SGU produces doctors like you to argue with medical students like us haha

[Picard]

I just want to appologize the folks on this board that this spilling over onto this unrelated thread/forum...

This started when someone from St. Christopher's began sending unsolicited/threatening e-mail's to my work after discussions of attending risk/benefit of new, unapproved medical schools without licensed graduates. The first e-mail was shared with the site admin here, and I stopped posting regularly on St. Christopher's forum. Then, out of the blue, a string of similar and even nastier e-mails began to come, many of which based on the premise that I am a "paid recruiter" for SGU and are "paid" by SGU to post here on the forum... Around the same time, both moderators from St. Christopher's also began babbling about me being a "paid SGU recruiter," using languages similar to those in the e-mails. Now, I am not saying they are the ones who sent the e-mails, and have no interest in the matter any further. I've also asked them to stop calling me a "paid SGU recruiter." However, these babbles continued, and turned into an argument on SC board. Yes, I should have known better than to be baited into arguments like this. My mistake. Now this moderator has locked the threads on St. Christopher's forum after posting his last words, and then come here to start another one by posting after my posts in completely unrelated threads. I am sorry that this has spilled onto this forum. I will not respond to them here, and this will be the last and only post from me about this, simply to explain the history of what went on. Again, my appologies to folks here.

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[stacy_de_lin]

Ok, ok, so for Cali, you only need to have an ACGME approved rotation, period. Not in Cali, correct?

I don't understand why this would be a problem, because all of SGU's rotations are ACGME, and I know there is a family practice rotation in there somewhere. So what's the stressin' 'bout?

[Nimitt]

Its not cali thats the problem its the folks like me who want texas as an option! Why I want it dont ask...

Nimitt
4th year
SGU SOM

[stephew]

Insulting other users is NOT permitted and most certainly will not be tolerated in this forum. The next tiem the warning will be official.

[wolfvgang22]

You can't do any clinicals in Texas and still be eligible for licensure there, unless you enrolled as a "visitng medical student" with a Texas med school, which is not easy. (You may as well have just applied to Texas med school to start with.)

Interesting that the so-called "Peoples Republik of Kalifornia" and the GOP run, xenophobic "Republic of Texas" are similarly tough states for IMGS, isn't it.?

oops....nevermind!

[stacy_de_lin]

Heehee... sorry, I'm just interested in Cali, because I can't ever see myself moving for any reason EVER to Texas. :P (Sorry to all you lone-star folks that I just offended!)

[Picard]

Interesting that the so-called "Peoples Republik of Kalifornia" and the GOP run, xenophobic "Republic of Texas" are similarly tough states for IMGS, isn't it.?

I know, what's up with that? Funny how they will allow me to carry my Glock and drive around with a loaded AK-47, yet would hassel me over medical licensure... I guess a politician is a politician is a politician... I voted for Mickey Mouse (write-in candidate) in the past three elections...

Ok, ok, so for Cali, you only need to have an ACGME approved rotation, period. Not in Cali, correct?

I don't understand why this would be a problem, because all of SGU's rotations are ACGME, and I know there is a family practice rotation in there somewhere. So what's the stressin' 'bout?

Yep, as long as you do a family practice elective, and keep up with the mountain of paperwork PRK requires, you should be OK...