Passports and visas

[menia12]

I have a U.S. passport and an expired Polish one. I will get a new Polish one soon so I don't have to get a visa. Is having two passports legal?

[realPolak]

I have a U.S. passport and an expired Polish one. I will get a new Polish one soon so I don't have to get a visa. Is having two passports legal?

Zarowno RP jak i USA nie robia problemu z posiadania paszportu (obywatelstwa) innego kraju. Chcesz potwierdzic to oficjalnie, to napisz list elektroniczny do polskiego konsulatu lub ambasady.
Bedac polskim obywatelem nie potrzebujesz polskiej wizy.

[Elssha]

You are basically in the same situation I'm in. I have both passports (both valid). The Polish consulate (LA) told me to enter PL on my polish passport. No legal issues what so ever. You just have to bring both, because while you need to enter PL on your polish passport to not need a visa, you must exit the US on your American one. That's what I was told and it worked for me no problems. The reverse applies for when you go back (leave on PL, enter on US). You switch at a connection.

realP~ please stick to English. This is a forum in English and while I replied to the other thread in Polish due to the nature of conversation (though I'd rather we move that one to English as well); it's unfair to those prospective students (or current ones who wish to contribute) who can't speak Polish. It's common courtesy to keep a conversation in a language common to all.

[realPolak]

You are basically in the same situation I'm in. I have both passports (both valid). The Polish consulate (LA) told me to enter PL on my polish passport. No legal issues what so ever. You just have to bring both, because while you need to enter PL on your polish passport to not need a visa, you must exit the US on your American one. That's what I was told and it worked for me no problems. The reverse applies for when you go back (leave on PL, enter on US). You switch at a connection.

realP~ please stick to English. This is a forum in English and while I replied to the other thread in Polish due to the nature of conversation (though I'd rather we move that one to English as well); it's unfair to those prospective students (or current ones who wish to contribute) who can't speak Polish. It's common courtesy to keep a conversation in a language common to all.

Nie ma tam ani slowa o tym, ze jezykiem tej strony jest angielski. Ja wybieram polski. Jezeli ktos polskiego nie zna albo np. wstydzi sie po polsku pisac, to moze pisac po angielsku.

[Elssha]

Nie ma tam ani slowa o tym, ze jezykiem tej strony jest angielski. Ja wybieram polski. Jezeli ktos polskiego nie zna albo np. wstydzi sie po polsku pisac, to moze pisac po angielsku.
Trans: "There's not a word stating that the language of this site is english. I choose polish. If someone doesn't know polish or, for instance, is embarrassed to write in it, then he can write in english."

I'm not embarrassed. It's understandable that I prefer to type in the language I grew up using and to which my computer is geared towards. I also find reading Polish without the special characters a bit discerning since I'm not used to reading it in either form and sometimes it takes me a bit to realize what the word is supposed to be without the accented letters. I never claimed to have perfect Polish... especially not in reading/writing. I get by.
As for the forum...If seeing that practically all BUT your posts are in English is not enough for you to realize you should write in English, especially since this forum is meant to give info on the school and answer questions of future students (most of whom know no Polish whatsoever), then I don't know what to tell you. Again, it's a matter of common courtesy... those little unwritten rules that make life pleasant for all. Not everything in life needs to be spelled out for you for it to be true. The matter would be different if a person asking the question didn't speak english, which you obviously do.
Oh, and just FYI; the profs don't usually appreciate you speaking polish to them in a classroom setting (where the others can't understand) and usually reiterate the conversations they have with you in English so your classmates don't feel like they're giving you extra info than that which they gave the other students. If you feel more comfortable with Polish than English, I'd suggest trying to get into the Polish program at MUL... it not only costs less (or nothing, if you manage to get into the public one), but you'll probably learn more since the lectures will be in the professors' native tongue and the language they learned and practice in. I know one person I previously spoke to on this forum did so, though his interest in speaking Polish was no where near what yours is. Best of luck!

[MedDoc2b]

Wow! Great info again Elssha! I was planning on contacting the Polish consulate myself since I do have both passports... My friend complicated matters by telling me that now I also need a European Union issued passport/documentation. I'll pass this info on to her as well.

Kamil

[Elssha]

No worries ^_^
I got my passport around 2006 if i recall correctly. As long as it's not expired though, it shouldn't matter when it was issued; it's still a polish passport until the day it expires. To my knowledge, there isn't any EU passport... the passports of the separate countries just conform to the standards set by the EU with security protections, formats and such... same for other documentation. I know the old ID's are now invalid, but that's because the old ones had NO expiration date so a countrywide exp date had to be set or many wouldn't bother.

[menia12]

MedDoc - haha since I'm the friend whom you'll pass the info on to consider me informed :)))) and yeah - the passports are not EU per se - they're the new Polish passports which differ from the old ones in that the EU requires them to possess certain info the old ones did not.

[Elssha]

They're still valid though. And I know for a fact that mine is pre-chip (it was coming in a couple months after i got mine) and it won't expire until after i leave for rotations ^_^.

[realPolak]

Trans: "There's not a word stating that the language of this site is english. I choose polish. If someone doesn't know polish or, for instance, is embarrassed to write in it, then he can write in english."

I'm not embarrassed. It's understandable that I prefer to type in the language I grew up using and to which my computer is geared towards. I also find reading Polish without the special characters a bit discerning since I'm not used to reading it in either form and sometimes it takes me a bit to realize what the word is supposed to be without the accented letters. I never claimed to have perfect Polish... especially not in reading/writing. I get by.
As for the forum...If seeing that practically all BUT your posts are in English is not enough for you to realize you should write in English, especially since this forum is meant to give info on the school and answer questions of future students (most of whom know no Polish whatsoever), then I don't know what to tell you. Again, it's a matter of common courtesy... those little unwritten rules that make life pleasant for all. Not everything in life needs to be spelled out for you for it to be true. The matter would be different if a person asking the question didn't speak english, which you obviously do.
Oh, and just FYI; the profs don't usually appreciate you speaking polish to them in a classroom setting (where the others can't understand) and usually reiterate the conversations they have with you in English so your classmates don't feel like they're giving you extra info than that which they gave the other students. If you feel more comfortable with Polish than English, I'd suggest trying to get into the Polish program at MUL... it not only costs less (or nothing, if you manage to get into the public one), but you'll probably learn more since the lectures will be in the professors' native tongue and the language they learned and practice in. I know one person I previously spoke to on this forum did so, though his interest in speaking Polish was no where near what yours is. Best of luck!

Byc moze dlatego, ze w USA Polacy uchodza za glupcow ("polacks"), i w obawie przed ujawnieniem sie, nie mowia tam po polsku albo mowia tak, zeby ich nikt nie slyszal.
Z czego to wynika?
Wsrod polskiej emigracji zarobkowej lat osiemdziesiatych, jak i wielu poprzednich, bylo wiele osob "niezbyt skazonych intelektem". Stad w spoleczenstwie amerykanskim powstaly stereotypy i dowcipy o Polakach, np. w jaki sposob "polacks" wiaza buty (stojac klada noge na stol po to by schylajac sie sznurowac noge na ktorej stoja).
Zeby uniknac tym podobnych niwybrednych dowcipow i szykan, Polacy ci wymyslili, ze nie beda uczyc swoich dzieci polskiego jezyka. Dzieci w ten sposob zrozumialy, ze poslugiwanie sie polskim jezykiem jest czyms wstydliwym.

[Elssha]

RealP
I'm not even going to dignify that bull with a translation. Suffice to say you got my home situation (which i'll kindly ask you to keep your nose out of in the future) totally wrong, that neither of my parents is embarrassed of their heritage (nor, for that matter, am I), neither did anything to keep me from it, and that speaking and writing a language are two different things. One can be fluent in a language without knowing how to read it, much less write it. Hell, i have seen people who have only lived in the states, never learned anything but english and still had trouble differentiating between their, there and they're or knew when to use its vs it's. Perhaps it is you that lacks fluency in english, thus your insistence on using Polish.
Your first post was similarly about the racism against polish people (that time in canada) and since the timing of your post and the subsequent disappearance of anthonym suggest you two are one and the same, it seems to me as if you're using this alleged inability for poles to get into canadian medical schools to justify your willingness to forego a canadian/american collage in favor of the 6-yr program. It's your decision and it's your life... I was just trying to point out that your shouldn't rush in to a choice like that. Though at present I'm inclined to think more along the lines of "zlej baletnicy pszeszkadza i rabek w spodnicy" than any actual problems with admission criteria.
Either way, your posts thus far have served only to highlight your immaturity and stubbornness. It brings to mind an image of a 16yr old still knee-deep in his rebellious stage.
I'll refrain from responding to your posts directly from now on.
Best of luck in med school.