Do we really need ANOTHER anatomy atlas?

[coco881]

Hi,

I've been hearing a lot about students purchasing additional atlases of human anatomy for first term. I checked the booklist, and it appears we receive the Netter atlas with our course books when we get to SGU...

So I have three questions:

1) Is it necessary to purchase another atlas (in addition to the Netter altas we get with our course material)?

2) Do most people buy a supplemental atlas?

3) Which of the following atlases by Moore, Chung, or Rohen would you recommend? I've heard a lot of split opinions on this, so any pros/cons of these particular atlases would be appreciated.

Thanks, so much! :D

Coco

[Andrew21]

From what I haveheard, it is absolutely NOT necessary to get any outside books. However, many have praised the rohen book because it uses actual color photographs of dissected cadavers, which has obvious benefits. I will be bringing rohen with me

Andy

[stephew]

our class in 1995 protested and chucked the Slaby book for the far superior moore (slaby has its good points but not when initially learning i dont think). Chung is NOT a primary source and I dont think its even a good review source, but people do differ with me on the latter point.

A photographic atlas is the only suppliemntal thing id ever recommend and again, try the library. It helps to no end ocme practical exam time. Drs Jordan et al will clean up your horrible dissections so that when you take the exam, you can see what they're marking. Note: watch for the nipple being slipped into the exam.

[seagoddess]

I strongly recommend bringing down Rohen. It is extremely helpful especially for the 2nd half of anatomy where the head and neck are nearly destroyed by our wonderful dissection skills and it is difficult to identify structures in lab. I have one should anyone be interested in buying it. PM me.

[IndianBabu]

Students have been suggesting to me Rohen because it contains REAL LIFE dissections that are comparable to what you see in the anatomy lab, while in Netter they are illustrations.

Is this true?

IndianBabu

[RichS]

3) Which of the following atlases by Moore, Chung, or Rohen would you recommend? I've heard a lot of split opinions on this, so any pros/cons of these particular atlases would be appreciated.


Just to make sure, Chung is not an atlas. It is a board review book in outline/note format with a couple pictures thrown in. I didn't use any extra atlases. Netter is enough for everything. However, u can just check out atlases with real pictures from the library every once in a while when u want to look at it. Use the SGU library to the fullest!

[rsgillmd]

Drs Jordan et al will clean up your horrible dissections so that when you take the exam, you can see what they're marking.

I have to jump in with an anecdote here. Stephew isn't kidding. On our final exam, our group's cadaver had the mylohyoid marked. When I looked at it, it was obvious what I was looking at. The other answer choices didn't make sense either. But I swear, I probably stared for 5 seconds in pure surprise. The reason being that the real mylohyoid had gotten destroyed in our dissection.

Having a better understanding of anatomy when I went to take the final exam allowed me to appreciate how the anatomy staff can definitely create Netter type structures.

Ravpreet

[coco881]

Thanks for all the responses, everyone!

I'll be purchasing the Color Atlas of Anatomy by Rohen.

You guys are so helpful - thanks, again. :)

Coco

[desai29]

Netter is great then Moore.

[kingalls]

yeah I used Netter about daily, looked over Rohen once before midterms and once before finals, and cannot imagine trying to use another source.

[jaywalk81]

rohen.
chung isnt an atlas, and moore is just a textbook, not an atlas also.

netter is what dr.p in the histo dept would disney version of the human body.

[rokshana]

I'm one of the few that can't stand Netter- its too stylized and think Grant's is a MUCH better atlas - the drawings are more realistic and there is some explanatory text as well. I do like the Rohan because of the cadaver use

Chung and Moore are text not atlases - the blue boxes in Moore are very helpful- I personally like Big Moore better than Baby Moore- but then I like having more info available ans sorting though it than not having enough.

[canman]

ROHEN , ROHEN , ROHEN , ROHEN !!!!
Got Me The A....

Canman

[jaywalk81]

i also have the big moore. i prefer it over the baby moore also.

[tralfaz]

I found Rohen to be the only worthwhile book for anatomy. Netter was not practical with the "perfect" illustrations.

Also, Chung is overkill for just about anything in med school.

[Gforce007]

What is the difference bewtween Baby Moore and Big Moore. What was sliced out of Big to make it Baby. Thanks

[Gforce007]

Also in anatomy do they do a good job at keeping you focused on what to know (test wise). I open the rohen book and I am like OMG. Will something be somewhat humane and say know this this and that to some degree

[Gforce007]

Sorry one more thing. If the above are all atlases. What book is used as clinical part

[Dr.Masr]

Sorry one more thing. If the above are all atlases. What book is used as clinical part

there is barely any clinical medicine taught in first term.

[rokshana]

mostly baby is a slice out of big, but I had both (no I'm not a masochist- I was an anatomy prof and had big anyway and well you have to buy baby) and thre are things in baby that are not in big (go figure!), but the blue boxes are pretty much the same.

as for all being atlases, no they are not all atlases- moore is a text and chung is a brs review- i like the chung, but more for reinforcement not primary learning

[Gforce007]

Thanks Rok, So wait there is no clinical anatomy taught??? Is it mostly like taking a language class and understanding all of the orientation terminology. (proximal, distal, origin, insertion, action, synergistic movements, types of slices) along with the actual structure. Theres no, (for ex, patient A had punture wound in thigh with perfuse bleeding indicate injury to femoral artery type questions.

[rokshana]

Thanks Rok, So wait there is no clinical anatomy taught??? Is it mostly like taking a language class and understanding all of the orientation terminology. (proximal, distal, origin, insertion, action, synergistic movements, types of slices) along with the actual structure. Theres no, (for ex, patient A had punture wound in thigh with perfuse bleeding indicate injury to femoral artery type questions.

No, there is some, some questions will be couched in those terms, but anatomy itself is more about learning the anatomy. Dr. H. does a lecture after each section on clinical anatomy and Dr. R does a (actually very good ) lecture on x rays.

[Gforce007]

In what region order in anatomy taught?...Also do the prof narrow the structures to know down to a humane amount to know

[Dr.Masr]

back, shoulder, arm, thorax, abdomen, legs, and then head and neck....its in that general order from what i remember a year ago. of course its narrowed down and is a "humane amount" to know, if it wasnt thousands before you, including me, wouldnt have gone through it. that said its definitely not easy either and there is a great deal of information to learn.

[daguru]

I have to say, I never used anything other than Netter. I read the blue boxes for clinical vignettes or whatever from Moore, and Netter and the body itself was my bible. I didnt buy any other books, and I did well in Anatomy. You have the BODY! What do you need pictures for? Too much weight and too much money in my opinion....

[jaywalk81]

yep the order is
back, shoulder, arm, hand, thorax, abdomen, pelvis, perineum, thigh, leg, foot, head and neck.

for the first half of the term, everything up to and including the pelvis.
majority of the 2nd half will be on the head and neck.

you will be given a lab manual which will list out all the structures that you should be able to know and identify.

but looking at the rohen now...believe it or not, most of all the names and parts in there i have came across at least once in lecture materials...kinda scary isnt it?

[Dr.Masr]

I have to say, I never used anything other than Netter. I read the blue boxes for clinical vignettes or whatever from Moore, and Netter and the body itself was my bible. I didnt buy any other books, and I did well in Anatomy. You have the BODY! What do you need pictures for? Too much weight and too much money in my opinion....

we had the bodies. these guys dont anymore. the term after mine had to start using prosections and did very little dissecting. i was in the anatomy lab a couple months ago and those bodies that are there are really hacked up. and im not so sure how anyone can learn off from them. im so glad we were able to dissect and learn from it. i agree with the fact that added books is added weight and money.

[sheikh1]

Netter was my bible!

[John_USA]

we had the bodies. these guys dont anymore. the term after mine had to start using prosections and did very little dissecting. i was in the anatomy lab a couple months ago and those bodies that are there are really hacked up. and im not so sure how anyone can learn off from them. im so glad we were able to dissect and learn from it. i agree with the fact that added books is added weight and money.

Naw, we got something like 30 new cadavers in this summertime. CRAZY!

[MedPhreak]

i loved netter. it was like my 3rd arm. but like what everyone said above, rohen was excellent for seeing structures that got cut up in the labs. i just went through everything that was in the lab manual a few days before the exam and made sure i could point it out in rohen. that way i had a rough idea of what each of the structures would look like. and i got chung as well. i liked it because it was like a checklist of the things that we had already learned. reading and re-reading really worked for me. but beware of the details...there's a lot of things in those books that we aren't responsible for in the exams. we're only responsible for whatever is in that course companion...which is a lot on its own. but i would recommend rohen at least if you can lay your hands on one.

[DOCplucinski]

I've got it right in front of me....lots of pretty pictures

[Saora1]

Well that was random.

[RussianJoo]

Yep very uncalled for.

[orthonut]

Yep very uncalled for.? <O'Nut scratches head in wonderment> What are y'all talking about?

As for the atlases, I liked Rohen, but my opinion doesn't mean doodly squat for y'all lol.

[RussianJoo]

lol we're both talking about how the polak commented on a thread that was last commented on in 2006 and was virtually dead.

[orthonut]

lol we're both talking about how the polak commented on a thread that was last commented on in 2006 and was virtually dead.I know...but I'm talking about this from The Polak

I've got it right in front of me

Which IT? There's like 4700 books lol.