Just Curious: SGU students VS US med students

[stranger2]

What are (if any :( ) advantages do SGU students have over US med students? ( Please list anything, at least ten if you can).

[archon218]

none, other than the experience of a new place.

[stephew]

none, other than the experience of a new place.
correct. You dont get any bonus points for going abroad.

addendum: not 100% true; you can sign outside the match but obviously its not the big programs that will be doing this with you. Still there are good ones to get this way. saves you angst of the match if youre so inclined.

[stranger2]

Come on people! we must prevail in some other area...like better prepared for Step I, no distraction, you are on the island primarily to study, hey! wouldn't that give you an edge over someone in NYC? dont get me wrong I'd attend any US med school in a heart bit, even in Alaska.

Can someone tell me if Step I is more challenging than the MCAT. am i here trying to compare apples and oranges? is the Biological part of the MCAT similar to the STEP 1.
Thank you.

By the way
" Happy the Lakers lost! let's go Pistons"
(I root for two teams: The Knicks and any other team that beats the Lakers)

[stephew]

Come on people! we must prevail in some other area...like better prepared for Step I, no distraction, you are on the island primarily to study, hey! wouldn't that give you an edge over someone in NYC? dont get me wrong I'd attend any US med school in a heart bit, even in Alaska.

Can someone tell me if Step I is more challenging than the MCAT. am i here trying to compare apples and oranges? is the Biological part of the MCAT similar to the STEP 1.
Thank you.

By the way
" Happy the Lakers lost! let's go Pistons"
(I root for two teams: The Knicks and any other team that beats the Lakers)
You can look at it that way. As for the MCAT and USMLE, apples and oranges. The bio part is nothing like the usmle. In a way its closer to the step two, but even then that's only in comparison to step one which is zippo like the mcat.

[rsgillmd]

(Please list anything, at least ten if you can).

Man, you sound like you're trying to write an essay or something.

I'm of the view that a person can succeed pretty much anywhere, within reason of couse, as long as he applies himself.

If you want an advantage, I think the biggest is determination. Students who go to SGU (or any other foreign school for that matter) are determined to become physicians. Unlike people who failed to get into a U.S. med school and gave up, SGU students didn't give up.

Ravpreet

P.S. As far as signing outside the match, I did it with Jersey City for several reasons. But up there was the fact that I didn't want to take the chance of having to scramble for a prelim position and risk ending up at a place I knew nothing about. Signing outside the match provides a degree of control over your future.

[Nimitt]

US students I have rotated with take their med school admissions for granted and dont seem to put in as much effort and energy. SGU students because of that determination and "chip on the shoulder" at least at my hospital have out performed US students by far and thats coming form residents and attendings telling me this.

Nimitt
3rd year
SGU SOM

[teratos]

They are often more motivated and more mature. G

[Andrew21]

We get to rotate at different hospitals. For me, If I was going to IU med, I would be rotating at one of three hospitals (more than likely). However, as an SGU student I will be able to rotate in NY, MI, maybe even CA. This is quite cool to me, and I look forward to the opportunity.

Andy

[stranger2]

Thank you for your inputs.

[seagoddess]

I think coming to a different country is a great experience. I have a feeling some of the remarkable individuals I've met on the island will be life-long friends. I also appreciate the fact that we can rotate in different countries. I plan to do at least one rotation in the UK. This summer I'm off to Prague for a clinical selective. I think it'll be a great experience.

However, I must say every experience is what you make of it. Those determined to succeed will do anywhere whether in the US or abroad.

[wytosk]

i think though if you are looking for a high-profile residency that you are at a disadvantage by going to a foreign school. I think i saw that on sgu's residency placements for the last 5 years or so that only 5 students were placed into orthopedic surgery. Im interested in OS so its kind of a disappointing statistic. HOwever, if u work your *** off, anything is possible.

[stephew]

i think though if you are looking for a high-profile residency that you are at a disadvantage by going to a foreign school. I think i saw that on sgu's residency placements for the last 5 years or so that only 5 students were placed into orthopedic surgery. Im interested in OS so its kind of a disappointing statistic. HOwever, if u work your gluteal off, anything is possible.
actually this is wrong; many more have gone into ortho (though not that many) and some other competitive residencies; but you dont see them because util this year, sgu didnt get the info from the NRMP (its just available this year) and they found out where people went by asking "where are you going your first year". the trouble is for ortho, radonc, radiology, and many specialites, people do an intenrship year first in IM or surgery- so for instances for 1999 im listed as gong to IM. And there are currently 5 sgu grads in radonc residency that i know but you wont see us on the sgu list.

But your bottom line is correct that its much harder to get a highly competititve spot from offshore.

[wytosk]

so does that mean if you are interested in ortho that you look into an IM program??? I guess im confused!?!?! :(

[stephew]

so does that mean if you are interested in ortho that you look into an IM program??? I guess im confused!?!?! :( this is a whole other conversation but no.

basically ALL residents msut do a 1 yr internship first. If you happen to be in IM, obs gyne or surgery, your first year is your internship. If you want a speciality like rads, neuro etc etc, you must do what's called a "preliminary year" in either IM, Sugery or "transitional "(a blend sort of like a fourth year all over again with some requiste courses). So if you are listing where everyone is going for their fiest year, all the orthopods will be listed only as "surgery" and radoncers as "Im" or "transitional" (and the very odd one as "surgery") since that's what they did for their internship year.

[Mman]

I would like to get a residency in General Surgery, would a graduate from SGU have a hard time in securing a residency position in this area?

[emt036]

See the list of residencies obtained by SGU graduates over the past 5 years... Quite a few general surgery positions.



http://www.sgu.edu/nhome.nsf/webcontent/15AA131E203D5FC585256B8F0054B5D1?OpenDocument&top=med

[docks]

What are the top general surgery residencies in the US? Also, where would one find top [fill in specialty] residencies in the US? Is there a ranking chart somewhere? Also, how is a "top residency" defined?

Thanks,
Docks

[stephew]

What are the top general surgery residencies in the US? Also, where would one find top [fill in specialty] residencies in the US? Is there a ranking chart somewhere? Also, how is a "top residency" defined?

Thanks,
Docks
check out us news aand world reports top hospitals list. thats the "definitive" list. The differenc between the number one and number five program? probably the state of residence of those who rank.