NY Approval??

[GOLFER]

Windsor has been in existence for 12 years now. Where is is the NY approval???

[winmd13]

Windsor has been in existence for 12 years now. Where is is the NY approval???



I think they need to get it now since the yankees just won their 27th world title!!!!

;)

[McNasty]

Windsor has been in existence for 12 years now. Where is is the NY approval???
for now its only a mirage..... hope we get it in the near future.

[jsb411]

With a "$25 million dollar campus" in the middle of the country in St. Kitts, their not making a pitch to even make it happen.

[Hiphopononomous]

I hear the NY approval is all about the cash, which is why AUA got their approval so fast. Believe me, having a nice campus has nothing to do with it. AUA was renting a facility that was pretty rundown at the time they received approval. Its all about who you know - so maybe Windsor just hasnt hooked up those connections yet. Kind of depressing that it has taken this long.

[Allthaticanbe]

The long wait does make you question whether they actually want it or not. For I believe they would have to change quite a few things if they got it. Transfers, retakes and admissions- all the things driving the school.

Oh well....hopefully I'm wrong and they apply someday before my grandchildren apply for residency.

[GOLFER]

I hear the NY approval is all about the cash, which is why AUA got their approval so fast. Believe me, having a nice campus has nothing to do with it. AUA was renting a facility that was pretty rundown at the time they received approval. Its all about who you know - so maybe Windsor just hasnt hooked up those connections yet. Kind of depressing that it has taken this long.

If this is ture, UMHS will most likely get NY approval before Windsor. They are just waiting for their first grad class.

[GOLFER]

I hear the NY approval is all about the cash, which is why AUA got their approval so fast. Believe me, having a nice campus has nothing to do with it. AUA was renting a facility that was pretty rundown at the time they received approval. Its all about who you know - so maybe Windsor just hasnt hooked up those connections yet. Kind of depressing that it has taken this long.

If this is true, UMHS will most like get NY approval before Windsor. They are just waiting for their first grad class.

[winmd13]

I think umhs' first batch of students are now in Maine doing their MD5 and their hospital experience as well as board preparation. I think they have NY now or are gonna get it very soon, before any other school on the island i know that. Lucky them!! Their school is helping them out rather then students helping out the school

[GOLFER]

I don't believe they have NY approval yet, since NY requires the school to have a graduate class. Their standards seem certainly higher (hence more tuition) so I don't see why they wont get NY approval soon.

I think umhs' first batch of students are now in Maine doing their MD5 and their hospital experience as well as board preparation. I think they have NY now or are gonna get it very soon, before any other school on the island i know that. Lucky them!! Their school is helping them out rather then students helping out the school

[SWOLL68]

I don't believe they have NY approval yet, since NY requires the school to have a graduate class. Their standards seem certainly higher (hence more tuition) so I don't see why they wont get NY approval soon.


To be completely honest, if UMHS had already had a graduating class and was accredited I'd have applied and gone there as opposed to Windsor. They're 10 times more organized and student friendly than Windsor is. From what I've seen and heard, they're out for the student, not for the money.

[SWOLL68]

Is it honestly a surprise that Windsor hasn't attained NY yet? It costs money...which Windsor takes from us and doesn't give much in return. It's amazing. Mr M told me they have about 800 kids in all (not sure if that number is true). Assuming that each semester costs 3990 (less the 1000 for housing), each year a student will pay about 11970.

11970 X 800 = 9,576,000

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.

[GOLFER]

To be completely honest, if UMHS had already had a graduating class and was accredited I'd have applied and gone there as opposed to Windsor. They're 10 times more organized and student friendly than Windsor is. From what I've seen and heard, they're out for the student, not for the money.

I totally agree with you! Did you visit UMHS campus when you visited the island?

[SWOLL68]

I totally agree with you! Did you visit UMHS campus when you visited the island?

No unfortunately I didn't. But I was able to talk to a group of girls from there. They really like it. And I've checked out the website and forum on here. Also, I filled out the inquiry part of the website, they emailed me and called me the next day. I realize they just see me as a prospective student and that's why they're so prompt, but Windsor didn't even bother. Overall it just seems like the superior school. In no way am I bashing Windsor, but they're a for profit business (who just happens to solely care about the money).

[Hiphopononomous]

Haha - UMHS is for profit as well. They just have the benefit of decades of going through this. Believe me, when I was being "courted" by AUA they called me all the time just to check in on me, but once I got down to the island, I was forgotten about. Would you rather have your hopes up and then crushed, or at least know the deal before you get down here?

[SWOLL68]

Haha - UMHS is for profit as well. They just have the benefit of decades of going through this. Believe me, when I was being "courted" by AUA they called me all the time just to check in on me, but once I got down to the island, I was forgotten about. Would you rather have your hopes up and then crushed, or at least know the deal before you get down here?


Ha no I know. The main thing was how organized and student friendly the school seemed. Even the students didn't have too many complaints and said it was a good school. Still a few kinks to work out because it is brand new, but overall good.

[McNasty]

there is quite a sizable transfers from umhs every semester coming to windsor. my class alone has about 15 umhs.

[winmd13]

Actually that sizeable class your talking about that transferred to windsor from umhs, that was last yr when umhs just opened up and they were having some issues with certain things a few of those students told me. The students that I talked to now at umhs have said those problems have been fixed.

[Specialist]

The long wait does make you question whether they actually want it or not. For I believe they would have to change quite a few things if they got it. Transfers, retakes and admissions- all the things driving the school.

Oh well....hopefully I'm wrong and they apply someday before my grandchildren apply for residency.


This is the real reason why Windsor still has'nt got NY. Getting New York or California means no more direct transfers, strict site visits, staff audits etc

Basically getting more accreditations means that Windsor would have to raise its standards which means:

1) Building better facilities
2) Employing better lecturers
3) Raising the schools admission requirements

The first 2 costs money, the third means that the school would be more selective and less students would come to windsor = Less Money for the owners.

That is why Windsor still has'nt got New York after 12 frickin years. The owners are making more money with lower admission requirements, lower fees and more students.

[meishern]

Windsor is a business and its investors are trying their best to get paid. I am a bit confused. People wrote that some school that just opened got NY, but Windsor cant. I heard that hefty bribes, connections and greed prevents Windsor from getting NY and Cali. Whats the real story? Requirements missing. Windsor never applied. Any ideas?

[winmd13]

There are many factors and yes money is one of them, something which windsor is not short of so that is not an immediate factor. For starters what Specialist said is correct. Also, The school has to be worthy of getting certain clinical spots and just cause you have money doesn't mean they will get it. To add on top of that, Windsor is the only school that allows retake exams so that prevents it from getting NY, also they don't have a proper anatomy lab or library with books in there.....when i mean books i mean other reading material not the school text books that school should be giving out for free and not charging a deposit fee for them, that was never said in the contract, anyways.....

But I do remember Dr.G coming in one time and talking to us and saying that the school will not get NY for awhile because they want to apparently build the campus up first and I guess get it up to proper standards then he will apply for NY hopefully he said..........who knows.....

[MDIN2009]

AUA who got NY approval the fastest of any medical school...3 year i think. Has a former NY medical board member on its corp board.

I think its been nine years since the first class started?

[winmd13]

windsor is not even attempting to get NY or cannot even get NY considering a lot of their students are from there

[PalakPaneer]

One of the first goals of every Carib school should be to attain NY for various reasons, mainly because it attracts so many more students and boosts the schools credibility. However, Windsor has been in existence for 10+ years and still does not have NY. Perhaps this fact sheds light on Windsor's true motives/best interests.

[MDIN2009]

??? why cant a school have students from NY and get NY approval. MUA had a ton of NY student from NY before they got approval.

windsor is not even attempting to get NY or cannot even get NY considering a lot of their students are from there

[MDIN2009]

For someone that does not attend Windsor or a medical school you are very opinionated about something you have no part of.

One of the first goals of every Carib school should be to attain NY for various reasons, mainly because it attracts so many more students and boosts the schools credibility. However, Windsor has been in existence for 10+ years and still does not have NY. Perhaps this fact sheds light on Windsor's true motives/best interests.

[MDIN2009]

I like UHMS and for that matter St.James and AUA. Along with Windsor I would select any one of those schools. NY approval or not...

I think umhs' first batch of students are now in Maine doing their MD5 and their hospital experience as well as board preparation. I think they have NY now or are gonna get it very soon, before any other school on the island i know that. Lucky them!! Their school is helping them out rather then students helping out the school

[Specialist]

Lets get this straight boys and girls. If a school still has not got NY approval after all these years then you know that somethings up. It means that the school is not interested in being taken seriously and it never will be.

Like i've said before, the school is ONLY in it for the money. Getting NY approval or any decent accreditations would mean having to raise standards which means

* Better facilities
* Better lecturers
* Tighter transfer rules
* Removing the current retake system

All of this would mean less students coming to Windsor and having to increase fees. The only reason students choose windsor is because its the cheapest school. The owners know this and thats why NY or any other accreditation is far far away.

[MDIN2009]

VERY TRUE... As I have said about a billion times (read my older post) dont hold your breath for NY approval.

Lets get this straight boys and girls. If a school still has not got NY approval after all these years then you know that somethings up. It means that the school is not interested in being taken seriously and it never will be.

Like i've said before, the school is ONLY in it for the money. Getting NY approval or any decent accreditations would mean having to raise standards which means

* Better facilities
* Better lecturers
* Tighter transfer rules
* Removing the current retake system

All of this would mean less students coming to Windsor and having to increase fees. The only reason students choose windsor is because its the cheapest school. The owners know this and thats why NY or any other accreditation is far far away.

[Allthaticanbe]

Sorry I can't afford NY approval. One of the only reasons I'm going to Windsor over SMU and MUA is cost. My families credit sucks so after OSAP its coming from personal savings....