SGU DOES Care About You and Your Safety

[Heathcliff]

I was reading through the thread started by medstudent84 and realised that she had changed her story.
I was surprised that she claimed that she and her room mate were not helped, espesially if she talked to the Dean of students or posted her problem on SGU talk as the other posters suggested. The corrected post sounds like the SGU response that I would have expected.

Dear all,

My rash words written the night before my exam where falsified and exaggerated.
I had been stressed the last few months and felt helpless so I turned to this public forum to get my anger out.

I had been robbed twice and felt frustrated that no one was helping me fast enough.
After I had been robbed off campus, the school was able to provide us with housing right away to double rooms.
My roommate and I instead decided to switch housing with our friends living on campus and they'd be living in our place off campus.

After meeting many times with school administration, after the fact, I realize that they actually help students a lot and make them feel safe even though it is not apparent on a day-to-day basis.
What happens behind closed doors is sometimes hard to see.

The deans' office doors were ALWAYS open to us and they would always do their best to appease us during stressful times.

I want people to realize that I did get a little freaked out by my 2 incidences, but one has to realize that accidents happen anywhere.
I am an isolated case and I do not want people to think poorly of SGU and Grenada because of the words I wrote before. It does not reflect the typical experience of a student at SGU.

The local people that you meet on campus, the beach, or at the markets are usually welcoming and friendly people. Besides my experience of med school the island has a lot of offer with weekend activities, hashes, and boat cruises. You know things you can't enjoy during the winter in other places
Grenada is a beautiful island and at the end of the day there is no better stress relief than the Grenadian sunset, and a day at the beach.
Despite my incidences I have enjoyed myself and the unique experiences SGU and Grenada have to offer.

To anyone that wants to become a doctor, SGU is a great school and many successful doctors have graduated from here. I am proud to be a student at SGU and I look forward to completing my studies and becoming a doctor in the near future.

[digitalising]

Thanks for posting this Heathcliff, as I certainly would not have checked the first page for edits. What happened to her and her roommate was horrible and I'm glad that she was able to get a resolution that worked out for her.

To people looking off-campus for housing - look at the crime reports to see where there are hotbeds of activity, and talk to your landlords about safety and security.

[Heathcliff]

No problem. I haven't been on for awhile and was reading the thread from the beginning and noticed the OP was different than her quoted post.

[Golding]

It sounds like they got to her, tied her down in a double room dorm, taped her eyelids wide open, and forced her to watch their youtube videos on loop. :]

SGU is a good school...
SGU is a great school...
SGU is a terrific school...

[TheFooBar]

To people looking off-campus for housing - look at the crime reports to see where there are hotbeds of activity, and talk to your landlords about safety and security.

Landlords are not always very forthcoming with information that might sway you away from renting their apartment. Always check with the school to see how safe your prospective apartment is, the nearby apartments, and the road you will be living on.

If you can candidly ask the current residents about their feelings that is always very helpful. The information they gave us was spot on.

[aust0042]

It sounds like they got to her, tied her down in a double room dorm, taped her eyelids wide open, and forced her to watch their youtube videos on loop. :]

SGU is a good school...
SGU is a great school...
SGU is a terrific school...

Yeah, that does seem like a statement made under duress. I'm sure they will be after me next, after my "feedback" of the clinical skills dept...

[summerwind]

Yeah, that does seem like a statement made under duress.

Are you saying that medstudent84 is the girl on campus with the 2 broken knee caps and the cement shoes? :shock:

[digitalising]

I paid a lot for that cement...

[Phrenetic]

:lolup: I helped pour it! :twisted:

[conjuctiva]

hmm... maybe the school got to them and told them to "edit" it or else?

[Wh0Kares]

in all honesty this edited post does sound a lil fabricated...how can one go from absolutely bashing the school to sucking up to it left and right in a matter of a day?

even if the original post was exaggerated this new one is throwing out way too many compliments towards the school and is raising my suspicion

[routedoctor]

Lawyers can have that effect.

[Golding]

in all honesty this edited post does sound a lil fabricated...how can one go from absolutely bashing the school to sucking up to it left and right in a matter of a day?

even if the original post was exaggerated this new one is throwing out way too many compliments towards the school and is raising my suspicionIn all honesty, I think the original poster was just compensating for what she felt was a harsh post. Truth is that the school isn't really to blame for her recent troubles, but it really is easy to use them as a scapegoat (especially while under high stress). Funny thing is that it's almost like she can't win, here. She bashes the school and people tell her it's not the school's fault. She comes around and says the school isn't all that bad, and now she's being too complimentary. Poor girl... :]

[Wh0Kares]

you can't win anyone when you're an atheist one day and a catholic priest the next day

[Phrenetic]

You get robbed, you have a big exam, you are mad, scared, angry, need to vent and blame someone. Since the guy you want and need to blame is MIA, with his machete in tow, you have to place your anger somewhere else. You want someone to sweep in and make it all better, pronto! There is bureaucracy in any school administration and things don't quite move as fast or as well as you want. Now you're angry AND defiant. You decide to stick it to the world and take things in your own hands... housing contracts be damned! More excrement happens and your pot has just boiled over.

Do you guys really find it hard to believe that in the age of "I want it all, I want it yesterday, I am the only thing that matters" someone could have a knee-jerk reaction and post a rant, then come to their senses after seeing the fallout?

Have you really not run into someone on this campus who has an exaggerated sense of entitlement? Heck, have you not been someone with an exaggerated sense of entitlement at some point or another? I'm a pretty easy-going and extremely low-maintenance person, but I can confess that even I get a little urea-y every now and then.

The reason SGU can't afford cameras in the dorms is because they invested all the extra cash in mind-reading machines that have been implanted in every bed, desk and toilet seat on campus. If you dare think any anti-SGU thoughts, they will find you. You will be sent to the special re-education classes and you will not be released until you record a glowing youtube ad for the school.

Protect your thoughts, protect yourselves! I have some tin foil hats for sale, only 10 EC, upper bus stop, 12 noon tomorrow!

[Wh0Kares]

there is a difference between exaggeration and blatantly falsifying facts and fabricating things...

there is difference between 'ranting' and turning things around 180 (typed 360 originally and realize that gets you to the same place...oh pharm) degrees and lying about everything...-school didnt want to let us stay and and we are being kicked out- is not an exagerration of -school accomodated us immediately after we told them about our off campus robbery- its the TOTAL opposite....

i dunno about you but when i rant i dont make up a whole new story..thats called bullsh**ing not ranting

[digitalising]

The reason SGU can't afford cameras in the dorms is because they invested all the extra cash in mind-reading machines that have been implanted in every bed, desk and toilet seat on campus.

They all laughed at me when I told them that this was why I was moving off campus.

Protect your thoughts, protect yourselves! I have some tin foil hats for sale, only 10 EC, upper bus stop, 12 noon tomorrow!What have you got in underwear? Remember, they're in toilet seats as well!

Anyway, this thread certainly took an unexpected turn. Good point though, WK.

[Phrenetic]

What have you got in underwear? Remember, they're in toilet seats as well!


Ahhh! That's the entrepreneurial spirit. Wanna go in 50-50 on the underwear venture?

Kidding aside, if you read the original original post, you will notice that they found 2 dorm rooms (not a double room) and requested to be given those rooms. The housing office appears to have denied this request, for reasons not disclosed to us here. They got mad and decided to stick it to the housing office by doing a secret swap with their friends.

In the new original post, they state that they were offered a double room by the school, which quite obviously was not good enough for them initially. This little detail was left out of the original original post, along with a lot of other details, I'm sure.

A good rant is like a good magic trick - knowing all the details just ruins all the fun!

[Wh0Kares]

but that's the thing...the edited post implies that they were never denied by campus which was the whole point of the original post

"After I had been robbed off campus, the school was able to provide us with housing right away to double rooms."

unless she found a hole in the time dimension of the space to create extra time i don't see how you can be denied from something prior to having it right away...from time zero to time 'right away' doesn't leave a big gap for me

again i don't have a problem with leaving details out but telling the story the exact opposite of what happened is just a lil annoying

[Phrenetic]

OTOH, for all you conspiracy theory enthusiasts, I just got quite a juicy idea. I think the original post was a plant by Jackbnimble. He obviously missed the lively SGU bashing fest in which he appears to have participated a couple of years ago. Now that he's either too busy or too tired to keep patching the holes in his arguments, he changed the story to kill the thread.

Uh-oh, there's a hole in my tin foil hat. I better get off this board and go study some biochem... nitrogen metabolism doesn't seem to be interested in migrating into my brain voluntarily.

[Phrenetic]

but that's the thing...the edited post implies that they were never denied by campus which was the whole point of the original post

"After I had been robbed off campus, the school was able to provide us with housing right away to double rooms."

unless she found a hole in the time dimension of the space to create extra time i don't see how you can be denied from something prior to having it right away...from time zero to time 'right away' doesn't leave a big gap for me

again i don't have a problem with leaving details out but telling the story the exact opposite of what happened is just a lil annoying

I promise, I'm leaving after this post.

If you read the original and new posts carefully, you will notice that they are not mutually exclusive or even entirely contradictory. The school may have offered them a double room right away, but the room and/or other conditions that came with it weren't good enough for them. That's what I'm picking up from the posts (I didn't score a perfect on the MCAT VR, but I was off by only 3 pts). So, in her estimation the school did nothing, while in reality the school did nothing that they wanted right away. It's the "I want it all and I want it yesterday" attitude I was talking about.

But hey, what do I know? I'm just a slacker currently not studying biochem... :banghead:

[Wh0Kares]

I promise, I'm leaving after this post.

If you read the original and new posts carefully, you will notice that they are not mutually exclusive or even entirely contradictory. The school may have offered them a double room right away, but the room and/or other conditions that came with it weren't good enough for them. That's what I'm picking up from the posts (I didn't score a perfect on the MCAT VR, but I was off by only 3 pts). So, in her estimation the school did nothing, while in reality the school did nothing that they wanted right away. It's the "I want it all and I want it yesterday" attitude I was talking about.

But hey, what do I know? I'm just a slacker currently not studying biochem... :banghead:

but there is not a single word in her statements that even remotely *hints* towards your theory....please let me know if i'm missing something

[conjuctiva]

you can't win anyone when you're an atheist one day and a catholic priest the next day

:clapover:

[summerwind]

If you read the original and new posts carefully, you will notice that they are not mutually exclusive or even entirely contradictory. The school may have offered them a double room right away, but the room and/or other conditions that came with it weren't good enough for them. That's what I'm picking up from the posts (I didn't score a perfect on the MCAT VR, but I was off by only 3 pts). So, in her estimation the school did nothing, while in reality the school did nothing that they wanted right away. It's the "I want it all and I want it yesterday" attitude I was talking about.


I think you are right on target and well said!!!

[Wh0Kares]

I think you are right on target and well said!!!

haha i bet you would think hes right...i go to sgu and even I think you're getting paid by them

id love to see one sentence or one word from the OPs posts that supports your idea

[TheFooBar]

Like all stories with multiple versions, the truth likely lies somewhere between them. If I was a betting man, I'd bet it was closer to the current version than the original version.

Here's how I think it went down based on what little I know:

They go to housing and say "We've had a bad day and want to move on campus."
Housing says "We have this nice double room, probably in SD1"
They say "Double room? That's quite the step down from where we live now. Well, we have friends in another dorm with single rooms and they say there's two empty rooms over there. Can we have those?"
Housing says "No. All we can give you is a double room"
They say to themselves "So you're denying us the empty room?! Well, I'll just cry / beg / plead / bribe my friends in that dorm to move into our apartment and we'll take their more comparable dorm room"

Initial story - We were denied available rooms
Followup story - We were offered a double

Of course the OP has not presented themselves as a reliable source of information, so it's hard to call it anything more than a wild donkey guess.

[Wh0Kares]

Like all stories with multiple versions, the truth likely lies somewhere between them. If I was a betting man, I'd bet it was closer to the current version than the original version.

Here's how I think it went down based on what little I know:

They go to housing and say "We've had a bad day and want to move on campus."
Housing says "We have this nice double room, probably in SD1"
They say "Double room? That's quite the step down from where we live now. Well, we have friends in another dorm with single rooms and they say there's two empty rooms over there. Can we have those?"
Housing says "No. All we can give you is a double room"
They say to themselves "So you're denying us the empty room?! Well, I'll just cry / beg / plead / bribe my friends in that dorm to move into our apartment and we'll take their more comparable dorm room"

Initial story - We were denied available rooms
Followup story - We were offered a double

Of course the OP has not presented themselves as a reliable source of information, so it's hard to call it anything more than a wild donkey guess.

i guess i can live with that scenario lol

[Phrenetic]

i guess i can live with that scenario lol
Isn't that the same scenario I hypothesized? You just didn't like my wording, I guess... :cry:

[Wh0Kares]

Isn't that the same scenario I hypothesized? You just didn't like my wording, I guess... :cry:

yeah its pretty much the same thing you hypothesized..my bad lol

[Phrenetic]

yeah its pretty much the same thing you hypothesized..my bad lol

NP... I'm just being silly... :D

[summerwind]

id love to see one sentence or one word from the OPs posts that supports your idea

Originally the poster stated that they were not offered housing and then she came back to say that they were offered housing right away but they didn't take it. So the reason that Prenetic gave for that discrepancy made sense.

haha i bet you would think hes right...i go to sgu and even I think you're getting paid by them

If you misinterpret my support for SGU as something else than ....again, check my history.

[ravigoteti]

I think people need to chill a bit. The matter is over now, we know the "truth".

I think people have a lot of better things to do than to express what they "think" happened.

Move on people, valuemd can be used for some much better discussions than this.

At least, thats my honest opinion;)

[Wh0Kares]

If you misinterpret my support for SGU as something else than that is your right....again, check my history.

your posting history is what exactly gives that impression...each and everyone of your posts is about defending SGU...

you have 11 pages of posting history and not a single post is about anything else but how SGU is wonderful..sgu this sgu that...

if your posting history had a healthy balance of comments on other topics other than sucking up to sgu, then i wouldn't think your train of thoughts are paid for.

how can one be so one dimensional about what they type over the years? i don't care how much of a sgu fan you are, when 100% of your 832 posts are about defending and boasting sgu..then there is something clearly off...

[summerwind]

You obviously did not read all 11 pages of my posts. My posts are true and obviously, I do not see or approach life as you do. I am done with the subject.

[Wh0Kares]

You obviously did not read all 11 pages of my posts. Every one of my posts are true and obviously, I do not see or approach life as you do. People who have been through adversity don't sweat the small stuff. I am done with the subject.

of course you are done with the subject..there is no way you can justify how close to 100% of your posts are about defending sgu...no unbiased/free-will individual is that one dimensional. just know that we aren't stupid. ;)

i invite anyone else to go thru your posting history to see if close to if not 100% of your posts are strictly about promoting/defending sgu.

[kananaskis_girl]

redundant thread, straying off topic, not going to get into another one-on-one battle here.

Locking.