I hear that there is a new school coming in st.kitts from jan 2010

[facebookguru]

I heard that a new school is coming to st. kitts in jan 2010 and will have the same tuition prices at windsor.

If anyone can tell me anything that would be really helpful

[Doc.Almighty]

so did you get rejected from windsor? Is that why you are asking about another school?

Honestly, why would you even ask this question?

[SWOLL68]

HAHAHA Doc.

[meishern]

It wouldn't be surprising if within the next 10 years there would be a lot more med schools on St. Kitts. The local economy is dependent upon tourists and what's better than a tourist (student) who stays for 2 years.

[MDIN2009]

The old MUA admin is setting up a new school. Search SKN vibes for the name and principals. But, starting a new medical school in this economy is like playing Russian roulette with your money...from a business stand point.

[md_neel]

Yes there is a new school coming up and surprisingly the school is owned by the parents of EX Windsor Student. The school name is Trinity College of Medicine and the website is Home | Trinity College of Medicine (http://www.trinitycollegeofmedicine.org/home/)

PS this info is not for any thing against windsor but to share the info about may be this school can do better then windsor ...

[PalakPaneer]

Yes there is a new school coming up and surprisingly the school is owned by the parents of EX Windsor Student. The school name is Trinity College of Medicine and the website is...

PS this info is not for any thing against windsor but to share the info about may be this school can do better then windsor ...

why would the parents of an EX windsor student open up a new school?

md_neel, i'm a prospective student for jan '10 but can't decide where to go, windsor or trinity? windsor seems well established but trinity is new. help me pleassse

[meishern]

PalakPaneer,

The parents of an x-Windsor student probably took out a calculator, saw how much money they could make vs. how much they have to pay, and realized that running a medical school is a profitable business. Nothing wrong with that. All private medical schools are for-profit businesses. You make your own decision. Do you want to bet on a new school with years of your life or not.

[Pnakhla]

Where exactly is it on the island?

[GOLFER]

The school is in Basseterre... As far as what to join... Windsor has 12 years under the belt and graduates in res, therefore, Windsor would be a safer bet. Plus if you are Canadian and would like to do res in Canada, there are some provinces who require the university to be establish for certain number of years (e.g Alberta requires 8 years) in order to consider students for the residency position.

[med etudiant]

The website seems to be down.

[weatherman]

This operation is suppose to take over the buildings that were used by Saint Theresa's Medical University which is now defunct. I would be leery here because this may be the STMU people operating under a different name. I don't know that for certain but the timing does seem a bit strange. The other supposed medical school on Saint Kitts is to be called Dixon-Byrd and it is suppose to be built near Ottley's Plantation. This was announced last Jan. but I cannot find any information on the development of the proposed facilities.

Weatherman (AKA Thundercloud)

[med etudiant]

Great info Weatherman. How did you find this out?

[weatherman]

I use to tech at Ross Vet. School. I still have a lot of friends on Saint Kitts that keep me up to date.

Weatherman

[meishern]

Apr 25, 2009 - "CONSTRUCTION on the Dixon Byrd Medical University and Hospital which will be operating out of Ottleys Village is expected to begin in upcoming months as expressed by Prime Minister Dr. the Hon. Denzil L. Douglas."

Nothing new on google-news search since that time. I guess they are taking their time. Did anyone see any construction around this Ottleys Village?

Ref: SKNVibes.com News: Construction on Dixon Byrd Medical University to begin in upcoming months...says PM (http://www.sknvibes.com/News/NewsDetails.cfm/9400)

[ChinaWood]

Trinity is not listed with IMED (https://imed.faimer.org/) or the WHO (http://www.who.int/hrh/wdms/en/index.html). That's not to say it won't be eventually, but until that happens I'd stay far away.

[med etudiant]

Keep in mind the only update the IMED or WHO once a year.

[md_neel]

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[md_neel]

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[jack2000]

ALL my friends including my self did not apply to
trinity or woould even consider it bc they lack a transcription service
and do not give out printed notes..

imagine in todays day and age , a med student has to chase notes
all day instead od studying. what a waste!!!!1

[md_neel]

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[PalakPaneer]

ALL my friends including my self did not apply to
trinity or woould even consider it bc they lack a transcription service
and do not give out printed notes..

imagine in todays day and age , a med student has to chase notes
all day instead od studying. what a waste!!!!1

But Trinity is a new school, no? So how would you know if they won't implement an online system?

I've done my research and heard some stories about Windsor already, especially from the current MD-3 class. I am definetly looking into Trinity since it seems like a great opportunity, pending IMED and WHO accreditation of course.

[deepr]

But Trinity is a new school, no? So how would you know if they won't implement an online system?

I've done my research and heard some stories about Windsor already, especially from the current MD-3 class. I am definetly looking into Trinity since it seems like a great opportunity, pending IMED and WHO accreditation of course.

You're kidding right? Please tell me you're joking?

If you want to be the guinea pig of a brand new school, with no graduates, no one passing the USMLE, no one in clinicals, and no one in residency, by all means go ahead.

However, Windsor has been around. It's an established school. It has a permanent multi-million dollar campus. People have passed the USMLE. Have gone on to clinicals. Have graduated. Have gotten residencies. Have been licensed in their respective states. In other words, they have a track record of actually producing physicians. Trinity doesn't even have a website (last I checked, their website is down).

Think it through. Do you want to devote 4+ years of your life to a school where no one has gone before you? That's a scary proposition. Matching in a residency is hard enough task as it is with increasing US MD students, DO students, and foreign IMG students all vying for the same spots. It will be even harder from a school no one has heard of because it has no track record.

I don't know where you are getting this information that Windsor is failing people left and right. I'd check who is saying this. I'm not one to believe all this talk because I'm a student of Windsor. I've been through basic sciences. As in MD1 through MD5 on the island and in Carbondale. I never failed a course. I'm not the smartest cookie in the bunch, but I did it. Something to think about...

[PalakPaneer]

You're kidding right? Please tell me you're joking?

If you want to be the guinea pig of a brand new school, with no graduates, no one passing the USMLE, no one in clinicals, and no one in residency, by all means go ahead.

However, Windsor has been around. It's an established school. It has a permanent multi-million dollar campus. People have passed the USMLE. Have gone on to clinicals. Have graduated. Have gotten residencies. Have been licensed in their respective states. In other words, they have a track record of actually producing physicians. Trinity doesn't even have a website (last I checked, their website is down).

Think it through. Do you want to devote 4+ years of your life to a school where no one has gone before you? That's a scary proposition. Matching in a residency is hard enough task as it is with increasing US MD students, DO students, and foreign IMG students all vying for the same spots. It will be even harder from a school no one has heard of because it has no track record.

I don't know where you are getting this information that Windsor is failing people left and right. I'd check who is saying this. I'm not one to believe all this talk because I'm a student of Windsor. I've been through basic sciences. As in MD1 through MD5 on the island and in Carbondale. I never failed a course. I'm not the smartest cookie in the bunch, but I did it. Something to think about...

I'm getting this info from current MD-3s who have never failed a course before. Apparently, the admin got greedy just recently, and failing people by the dozens, which they haven't done before (i.e. when you were in Basic Sciences?). And some of these people aren't dumb... and they're paying $1000s in retakes and still failing! Sounds like Dr G has a good business plan in the works.

I've talked to the new school (Trinity) and they have been very responsive (unlike Windsor).Although new, they are on there way of making it big (the proper, ethical way).

Trinity has no clinical students because no one took the Step yet. No one took they Step yet because this school hasn't even started. I thought the Match and Residency had more to do with Step 1 results and rec letters gathered during clinicals -- more than the name of the school you went to. Yes, I admit that I would be the guinea pig batch.

My point is that the new school seems promising, whereas Windsor does not!

[deepr]

I got my white coat less than a year ago and finished 5th semester only a few months ago. So you're telling me in the matter of a few months, all of a sudden, the administration got together, hatched up this secret plan to screw everybody and fail them so they can pocket some extra cash? Hmmm...doesn't seem too plausible to me. But, that's just me. When I was on the island, we had some people become very vocal when grades came out, blaming everyone and anyone for the situation they found themselves in. However, these are the same students I saw at Ziggy's getting drunk during the week, at the casino losing all of mommy and daddy's money at the tables all hours of the night, and planning parties. Honestly, medicine is not that hard people. It's 90% self study. I just took the step 1 exam last week. If you can't pass at Windsor I'm sorry, you'll NEVER pass the USMLE. It was a VERY hard test, but it was a fair exam. Thank God I put in the hard work and long hours from MD1 till now, because I felt good leaving the prometric center. If you fail the USMLE, who are you going to go cry to?

[SWOLL68]

I got my white coat less than a year ago and finished 5th semester only a few months ago. So you're telling me in the matter of a few months, all of a sudden, the administration got together, hatched up this secret plan to screw everybody and fail them so they can pocket some extra cash? Hmmm...doesn't seem too plausible to me. But, that's just me. When I was on the island, we had some people become very vocal when grades came out, blaming everyone and anyone for the situation they found themselves in. However, these are the same students I saw at Ziggy's getting drunk during the week, at the casino losing all of mommy and daddy's money at the tables all hours of the night, and planning parties. Honestly, medicine is not that hard people. It's 90% self study. I just took the step 1 exam last week. If you can't pass at Windsor I'm sorry, you'll NEVER pass the USMLE. It was a VERY hard test, but it was a fair exam. Thank God I put in the hard work and long hours from MD1 till now, because I felt good leaving the prometric center. If you fail the USMLE, who are you going to go cry to?

Best of luck to you deepr.

[deepr]

Thanks Swoll68! Before you know it, it will be you getting the white coat and taking that God awful exam. It's a right of passage all of us have to go through it seems. Good luck to you as well. Don't listen to the haters. Find a good group of friends, have fun, and study hard. If I can do it, trust me, anyone can....

[jsb411]

Interesting new topics...havent been on here in a min, but thought i would check out the ramblings. The new school that looks like their starting in St. Kitts seems very interesting. Their concepts and ideas are laid out on the website pretty well. I am a student @ Windsor and I have seen both sides of things. I am about to take step 1 at the end of november, but their are a lot of flaws in any school. Step 1 is self teaching. Thats your number 1 goal at the end of the day. Windsor does provide the golden ticket to take the exam, but dont expect to learn anything from their teachings. Their is a particular way to understand the concepts and material and put it to use by answering the questions. Windsors in house exams do not provide any kind of substanial board preparation. A lot of people will defend the school about the exams are fair and so on. The exams might be fair, but are the grades truely fair? We had issues time and time again as well, but its been proven in more ways than one. I think whole heartedly that in any case, that the school needs to provide a scan system to get rid of these accusations that have been brought up time and time again. Not going to lie, i asked to see my exam in carbondale, filled out the proper paperwork, paid the fee, and never saw the exam. My time in basic sciences is done, but I've seen it and a lot of the results have been proven. If your a student, pay tuition, and all the fees, you have every right to see your exam with no questions asked or review it with the professor of the class. As the school gets bigger, which i heard is fairly large size in st kitts, they need to start cleaning up their act and make strides for becoming more legitimate. A lot of the administration needs to be cleaned out and thrown out. The school needs to hire adequate and efficient people to run the school, instead of these bums from all parts of the world that dont know how to communicate with people who are paying to receive an education.

[med etudiant]

Ok, is it just me or is the website down? Is it down for you guys as well??

[PalakPaneer]

Ok, is it just me or is the website down? Is it down for you guys as well??


Yes, it's down.

[md_neel]

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[PalakPaneer]

deepr, I am sorry i will interrupt but you dont have to be blind folded and listen to everything, YES school is failing ppl alot of times for money ... how do i know this I have a recorded convo of Mr. R, Dr. S and Dr. G sayin we need funds and we can fail ppl. I was one of the student who was helping sorting papers and their were 7 students who were passing but Dr. G did not like dem and came in the room and gave Mr. R their name and said I need these papers and told me to write 58 on dere result and said if they recheck dey dont have any proof and laugh and left. YES this happen in front of me and deepr I am not a trinity fan and support windsor with my full heart and after this indecent I jus pray I dont come under this knife.

I am sorry this happened to you, although I am not surprised.

I just don't understand how you could say: "I go to Windsor and obviously I will say thats a good school..." earlier in this thread after mentioning your experiences w/ admin.

[jsb411]

I am sorry this happened to you, although I am not surprised.

I just don't understand how you could say: "I go to Windsor and obviously I will say thats a good school..." earlier in this thread after mentioning your experiences w/ admin.


I also agree. It is what it is. You need to pay to play. I had 100 percent proof on my grades. They don't grade these exams. The only exams they grade are the internals. Dr. G is a smart business, but he's gonna get caught up with it one of these days if he doesnt clean up his act.

[md_neel]

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[md_neel]

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[jsb411]

For your info I am not jus talking over here I have send the Dr. G recording to the higher authorities and they have sent him a letter of investigation and our president will soon take action and try to get him out of here.... All that apology act and friday free food thing was because of my this action, you will see more in future cuz some one have to stop this ** .... i hate this low class indian mentality of I am the king I will come and F*** you when I want and you can't make say any thing.


yeah i hear ya on that. Dr. G, dean definatley has to go, but i mean going to Dr. G (owner) might not be the way to solve things. He's just as crazy. Theirs been kids that theatrened to state medical boards, ecfmg, etc. Dr. G (owner) is a nutcase, hes all politics and business.

[meishern]

md neel, post the recording and paste a link here. I think you talking hot air and didn't tape record anything. Prove me wrong. After reading your posts I am quite certain you are fluent in ebonics but besides that 'dunoo dis and dat'.:bored:

If you boys and girls want to go to some new school, good luck! Pave the way. Stop at the casino and put 500$ on number 32 at a roulette table too while you at it.

[md_neel]

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[meishern]

md neel,

You wrote "I have send the Dr. G recording to the higher authorities and they have sent him a letter of investigation". Can you produce this recording? If you need help how to post it online, I will help you. I am a life long poker player, and I can smell a bluff from a mile away. You just flapping your lips. Whats your agenda?

Gossip by the way is what you are doing now. Gossip is : 'spreading rumors with no facts to back them up'. If you post this recording, it will not be considered gossip but fact.

Between lies and ebonics I can just picture you taking patient history. "So uze be ill? what uz be illin with?":decision:

[deepr]

DISCLAIMER: I am not a part of Windsor admin, faculty, or staff. I'm a current student, finished basic sciences (MD1-5).

I've been mulling over writing this post for the past day or so. I'm going to have to agree with my original posting and meishern's post above. I don't believe the administration has hatched this secret plan to fail students to pocket some extra cash. I don't believe md_neel's post about tape recording a conversation between the administration hatching said plan. Why you ask? Because of my own experience. From MD1-5, I never failed a class. Most of my group of friends didn't either. We all got our white coats less than a year ago. We finished md5 in carbondale a few months ago. The administration knew who I am. I left a career in the contracting industry, from a well to do family, I rented a nice house overlooking the ocean, and rented one of the nicer cars on the island. This isn't to brag. This is to point out that if the administration wanted to purposefully fail me, they could have. I had the money. But they didn't. Because I rocked all my internals, and come finals time, I didn't sweat. I still studied for the finals, but wasn't anywhere near as nervous as other students were. I had a great relationship with everyone in my class, underclassman, and the faculty. There were always people complaining, bitching that there's some plot that the administration is out to get them. These were the same students who partied during the week, and partied harder during the weekend. They failed their internals, and they failed the finals. They even passed around a petition with signatures and mailed it to the US office, threatening legal action, much like what is going on now. Most of you don't get the sad fact that, out of 200 students or so, 50 or so will move on to clinicals, and graduation. It's sad, but true. If you can't pass a Windsor exam, you have no business taking the USMLE. That's a completely different beast all together. If you fail that test, who are you going to go cry to? Did the NBME (the people who run the USMLE) purposefully fail you because they didn't like you? Again, outside the realm of possibility.

If I see/hear proof that what everyone is saying is true, I'll retract my statement. However, that's not going to happen. Because no one has proof. You can try going to this new school, but be forewarned. They do not have a track record of producing physicians, your end goal. Many students went to St. Theresa's, St. Christopher's in the UK, Grace, Kigezi, and some school in Aruba. They also had no track record of producing actual physicians. And no permanent campus. And where are those schools now? They closed. Those students were in alot of debt, and nothing to show for it. One guy on these forums was almost done with his schooling from St. Christophers. As in he was almost a MD. But they closed before he got his diploma. He had to start all over again. As in 4 years down the drain. Whether you go to Trinity or not is of no concern to me. Think twice before you do though. The caribbean medical school industry is littered with closed schools and broken dreams.

Stick to what has been tried and tested. Schools that actually have produced physicians. And any prospective student that wants info on Windsor, try talking to someone who has been there, done that, and successfully left the island, with no failed classes. There are alot of us out there and on these forums. Don't listen to the haters and crybabies. I was there. I passed everything. I made it out alive. And am a completely different person because of it, for the better.

Peace.

[GOLFER]

I'm getting this info from current MD-3s who have never failed a course before. Apparently, the admin got greedy just recently, and failing people by the dozens, which they haven't done before (i.e. when you were in Basic Sciences?). And some of these people aren't dumb... and they're paying $1000s in retakes and still failing! Sounds like Dr G has a good business plan in the works.

By md_neel YES school is failing ppl alot of times for money ... how do i know this I have a recorded convo of Mr. R, Dr. S and Dr. G sayin we need funds and we can fail ppl.




PalakPaneer,

What guarantee do you have that these students studied and prepared well for their exams. Yes, these people pay $1000 for retake...so what? There are students who are paying $5000 per semester, but come to the Island for a vacation and not to study. We all know how selective the admission process is at Windsor, so students failing by the dozen does not surprise me.

Like deepr said, those who studied hard made it through.

Md_neel,

Can you please clarify, how you obtained the recording. I don't mean to be sarcastic, but do you always records peoples' conversations. The fact that you were able to record the conversation of 3 faculty members is mind-boggling me.

[Akara-Ogun]

While I did not really know what is going on at windsor because I just sent it my application, but can anyone explain why the school makes is so difficult for students to see their exam papers?

[winmd13]

I first want to pt out to pple on this thread that there are pple from faculty and admin either on the island or in the states that discourage students to post anything negative about windsor and rave about how good the school is and then you have pple like mdn2009 and deepr who love this school and seem to be immune from all the problems that majority of the students have and that are going on. They are either part of the faculty or are one of those fortunate or unfortunate I should say students who r related to the faculty so they don't get effected much or at all!! Trust me guys, i have seen cases ;)

I have seen it all pple, been to windsor and I can tell pple first hand that the school does fail pple on purpose. Whether you believe it or not, its true. I failed (not afraid to admit) courses which I knew i shoulda passed and there are courses where i know I outright failed and didn't complain about it. I did the right thing that most medical students would do and asked to see my exam and they either refused or took like 2 weeks to show me or would not show me the actual exam but rather their own answer sheet (which could be made up for all we know) and my answer sheet!!! If you don't belive me get in touch with whoever you can, minus deepr and mdn2009 and they will tell u the truth. There have been many methods and ways of testing this theory out and pple hav done it and if you don't believe me, register to the school (for those new pple) and see for yourself. I just hate how pple don't tell the truth on these boards, especially windsor boards, and try to screw pple over. This md neel, guy I hope your telling the truth about what you saying and your not some premed student trying to stir up the pot, but im with the majority here, PM pple and send them the link where they can hear these recordings otherwise what u say right now has no credibility. Trust me i have seen cases ;)

FYI legal action has been taken throughout the history of this school and only until the last cple semesters have the faculty decided to do something about it (or you think they would). Before they would completely just walk all over students and do what they wanted cause they knew students would pay money and mommy and daddy didn't want their kids to drop out of med school cause that is the desi way. But from what i hear, they r finally listening to students somewhat and trying to help?? I still don't know about that. Trust me, if windsor cares about their reputation at this pt they will listen to students and hear what they have to say cause the more enrollment they get (heaven forbid) the more chances that somebodies parent is either a lawyer or has connections and this school could get shut down just like a lot of the schools deepr mentioned and a lot of pple will be screwed. I honestly think this school needs a student government (like they had cple yrs ago but got rid of it....hint hint). Why get rid of the student government if that is the bridge btwn students and faculty and how to solve things together instead of getting a student to sue the school and threaten to take legal action. You tell me pple, do you think any of the top caribbean medical schools have the problems that windsor does especially when it comes to taking legal action. I doubt it very much that schools like ross, sgu, auc, saba have problems that windsor has, and they do have premed programs at some of those school also so lets not use that as an excuse.

Windsor needs a whole admin. overhaul and they need to do it fast otherwise schools like UMHS and Trinity will take over.Windsor needs to change everybody from their front desk pple who are rude to students, espcially MR P who doesn't know anything, to their teaching staff to the dean (don't even get me started on this guy.....he wouldn't even talk properly to a sweet innocent little child let alone a medical student.....just look into his eyes and you'll see what im talking about), especially now since like DR. E, DR. SH, DR.V left. For those who have been to the school you know how rude faculty and staff are and they think every single student is trying to screw them over when in fact its the faculty trying to screw all the students over. None of the professors with the exception of Dr. K (most of you know who im talking about) who now has a diff. position, none of the other profs had office hours dedicated to the students and if u did go in to talk to them they were either rude or didn't have enough time or didn't even KNOW HOW TO TEACH. IM TELLING U GUYS, IF THIS SCHOOL RAN PROPERLY THEN NOBODY WOULD COMPLAIN...TAKE EXAMPLE OF THE TOP SCHOOLS, THEY WERE ONCE IN THE SAME POSITION THAT WINDSOR STARTED OUT AS BUT THEY WORKED HARD AND MADE SURE STUDENTS WERE TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE THEY THOUGHT ABOUT THEMSELVES AND THE ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR! I HAVE SEEN CASES ;)

Windsor has been around for 12 yrs and they still don't have NY?!?!? I remember AUA got NY in their first yr! WHY CANT WINDSOR. That is something they should have, and DR. G, the almighty, has enough students money to get it but he refuses to and he gives a lame excuse as to why they don't have it. Honestly, as of right now I know for a fact that there is one better school on the island (UMHS) and there will be a second (TRINITY). All you gotta do is look at the faculty, the facilities and the courses offered at UMHS and you will realize that this is a proper medical school for those students willing to study hard and apply themselves. Trust me, they have more mature students who actually study, I was friends with a few of them when I was at Windsor and what a big difference, they knew their stuff. As for Trinity, I don't know cause it just started but from what i hear if its affiliated with MUA then you know its gonna be a good school. If anything does happen to Trinity you can always transfer to MUA or another school cause i know schools that take MUA credits and pretty much MUA and Trinity and a whole bunch of other schools offer the same courses which is amazing. BUT NOBODY WILL TAKE WINDSOR CREDITS EXCEPT TRINITY! LOL.

If i had the chance to go back i would go back and do my undergrad and get a good score on the mcat and apply to a NA medical school forget about caribbean its a joke unless you go to a top school. Those who fail outta top schools will always use the excuse that they had no loan money but in reality they were kicked out! FACT IS FACT! IF i could go back to another caribbean medical school i would but its to late now and i would have to start all over again which sucks. For those thinking of transferring to diff. schools i would do it and Trinity is taking credits from bollywood windsor school so then then transfer out. All I know is UMHS doesn't so that so that might be a risk. But i know for a fact UMHS is an excellent school, met some of the faculty and staff there and their campus is nice.

Find out more info when a new school opens up cause i do know that when umhs opened up they had problems (the medical school not nursing school) but they have fixed it. So i know trinity will have some problems in the beginning but that is all being based on my assumption.

For all of you reading this, i know whatever i say will fall on deaf ears while other pple will know im telling the truth and will take it to heart. Don't make the same mistake that i have made or other pple have made coming to this school. You can judge me if you want and then apply to windsor and then know what im talking about. Hopefully by then they will have changed their policies and staff, and i think they will since this new school is opening up so I hope windsor does turn itself around cause it could be an excellent school if it wanted to be but right now its the bottom of the barrel and its a school for rejected NA and other caribbean med students and it only has a step pass rate of like 5%

Good luck future windsor md's? That i have not yet seen cases on ;) LOL

[Hiphopononomous]

They dont make it difficult, you just have to pay for it. I find that pretty ridiculous, and it is the first place Ive ever heard of doing this. The idea behind it is that every student will want to look at it and they claim to not have the resources to undertake such an operation. If this GradeCam were to become fully functional, as the company has instructed, then students would find out immediately what their scores were, and this would no longer be an issue. Like was stated by a previous poster that has passed everything, if you put in the effort you can make it through. I also have had no retakes at Windsor, and that may be because I forgo most of the party scene, and spend most weekends studying and catching up on sleep.

But if this new schools plan is to hire US MDs to teach, and they have such great connections, this will only help to improve Windsor. With solid competition, Windsor's hand would be forced to improve more things around the school. I think they are trying, but in some areas not so much. If Trinity were to hire all US MDs, then Windsor would have to spend the money to do the same. I think this is the real reason why they are no US trained physicians teaching the students - Windsor needs the money to build up the school, and thus far, these teachers have been sufficient to get that done. Down the road things may change, but for now, just take it as is and put forth the effort to get through.

[winmd13]

Forgot to add, pple that i have spoken to in md5 say that its a joke and they don't go the hospital at all like the school says they will. You are pretty much stuck in a classroom or hotel room doing nothing and apparently preparing for step 1. LOL. Big joke! A lot of other schools make sure their students go to hospitals for MD 5 and I hear this trinity school had their MD 5 in florida I believe. Hell of a lot better than Houghton Lake and Carbondale where there is nothing at all.

Im telling you pple, Dr. G is not spending this money wisely and he's spending his money on cheap places with no hospitals around. Apprently he bought two run down schools (there is a link on the internet, just search it) for 250 thousand and 50 thousand and he has plans to turn it into a highschool for foreign students where they can prepare to write to mcat or something. Why not let md5 students go to the hospital and spend money on there instead of building schools in remote areas???

[deepr]

Dude, calm down. I never said things are rosy and great at Windsor. It is what it is. Yeah, I'd like to change things about the school. But then again, I saw it for what it is. My ticket to write step 1. You yourself said you failed classes at Windsor. I'm sorry, but you should have no business failing classes here. The exams are too easy to fail. But then again, people surprise me. I'll say it one more time, I accepted the system for what it is, put in my effort, got off the island, did everything that was asked of me, and took step 1. All without failing a class. If you failed a class at Windsor, you're in for the shock of your life when you take step 1.

[deepr]

Also, Trinity is not affiliated with MUA. I heard it is being started by a ex Windsor student's family. If something happens to Trinity, you will not be able to transfer to MUA, because MUA doesn't allow transfers. MUA is owned by a company that also owns St Matthews and Saba. There is a new school opening in St. Kitts, Dixon-Byrd, that is being started by the old MUA administration.

[Doc.Almighty]

I'm getting this info from current MD-3s who have never failed a course before. Apparently, the admin got greedy just recently, and failing people by the dozens, which they haven't done before (i.e. when you were in Basic Sciences?).


This is your problem right here. If you do not see it first hand, then you are getting biased info. Whats better for a student with an ego, than to make up a story that happens to be very popular among his class, about why he failed a certain subject?

Who is to say that the MD3 students are the absolute source of wisdom, and knowledge for all things windsor?

[SWOLL68]

Gosh this is really unnerving. I was about to send in my check for the remainder of the Jan 2010 semester. Everyone has me second guessing it now.

[Hiphopononomous]

I wouldnt rely on this forum to provide 100% accurate information. Just as I wouldnt rely 100% on what the school says either. Everyone has their own agenda when it comes to what they'll say in regards to Windsor. The best advice is to buckle down and work hard, and try your best to fly under the radar. The best thing that could happen while you're down on the island is that after 16 months that dont even remember that you were even there.

[deepr]

Agree with Hiphopononomous in his post above. Alot of these forums are filled with rumor, gossip, and innuendo. At the end of the day, research as much as you can about the school, and pray you made the right decision. Once you are on the island, work hard and do the best you can. Don't get involved with all the ** people will throw at you. Do people fail at Windsor? Yes. People also pass and move on, too...

[winmd13]

Finally somebody agrees with me and im glad its deepr, that the school is bad and has more than its share of problems. Now, I would like to ask deepr, since you didn't fail any classes at windsor cause it was soooo easyyy then you must have gotten 99% on your step and you should have a killer clinical spot and headed to an even better residency right now, lets say in either neurology or cardio?? No lies now!

Also, do not believe deepr when he says exams are easy and you should not be failing them. This is medical school, it is gonna be hard, there is no "easy" course in medical school. Yes, you have your easier courses compare to the hard ones, but its not a walk in the park. But then again this school fails you on purpose even when you know u have passed so we can't really argue that pt.

A caribbean medical school should be preparing you to write step 1 and essentially trying to make you compete with NA students cause they are far more superior than caribbean grads. The Carib med school should be focusing on topics/courses that are geared towards step 1. WINDSOR DOES NOT DO THIS. THIS SCHOOL GIVES U A TICKET BUT THE TICKET IS A CHEAP HALF ASSED TICKET WHERE U WILL BE STRUGGLING TO GET WHERE U WANT TO GO AND YOU WILL FACE MANY PROBLEMS ALONG THE WAY!!! Just compare the courses that are given at windsor and then compare those same courses to any other medical school or the ones that are better than windsor. I mean even the schools that were worst off then windsor are getting better because they realize their students are not learning anything and they lack a lot of the basic fundamentals that a medical school should be offering. Like clincal experience, like DPS, like genetics, like history taking.....stuff that windsor does not offer (and that is only a small list!!!!). Just compare pple, compare. Don't think cause the school is cheap its worth it and you will do well. There are a lot of hidden fees at this school that they don't tell you about, and you end up paying way more then what it says on the windsor website and then you think to yourself, well if im paying this much i shuld have gone to another school where the fees are up front and nothing is hidden and im not stressing at night as to how much money i have to pay the next day! Pretty soon you will have to pay money to use the washroom at windsor!!!

Check this out, why not go to a proper medical school where they guide you, don't insult you as students, don't steal your money, don't lie to you, have proper admin. Why not make this so called STEP 1 TICKET a proper ticket where you know you will get benefits out of it and where you can use this ticket for something beneficial like, hey, becoming a proper doctor. Please explain to me that if this school is so good why are they losing hospitals cause of students who are coming drunk to the hospital or don't know anything. Im scared about that and I think pple should be also cause if this school loses hospitals we are all done for!

About Trinity:

I know its being opened by an xwindsor student's parents. I was under the assumption that it is affiliated with MUA and it still might be who knows, i think everything is under assumption until they get their website up and running and until more info comes out. I tried to find out if that new school in St. Kitts, Dixon-Byrd is being opened up by old MUA admin. but it doesn't say anything about that and I have not found any credible information on it. There is something on SKN VIBES about the new school opening up, but doesn't give to much detail into it just an overview, so i don't know how pple know its being opened up by old MUA admin.

In reference to what Doc. Almighty said:

Trust me, I know exactly what palakpaneer is talking about and if you haven't been their first hand then you don't know what is really going on. They fail students on purpose for retake money so they can pay their wonderful professors and wonderful staff (being sarcastic) and so they can have enough money for their new building that is coming up on campus and so it can pay for Dr.G's 5 million dollar house that he has in the states. I have even the heard the man himself say he has a house worth that much and he has enough money for his grand kids kids and he doesn't care if this school shuts down cause he has money. He doesn't care bout the students, we r his bread and butter or should i say steak and expensive wine. LOL.

Trust me, if the admin doesn't like you they fail you. PERIOD!!!! HOW MUCH MORE DO U NEED TO KNOW!!!! SELF EXPLANITORY!!!!! Im still shocked with all the students they have at windsor they still can't have a system where they assign each student a student number, just like how they do at most other carib and NA schools. This way the admin can't fail a student on purpose cause they don't know who it is and they can't be bias against that person.

I keep on saying, this school can be good if they stop worrying about making money and start hiring proper professors and admin and cheating students and parents. They can also limit the number of students they allow in this school. Let me tell you, I have heard cases ;) where windsor school was much better when they were in the old BR campus and they didn't have as many students. Things were proper back then, besides their horrible campus that they now use for the SAID program (another big joke.....does anybody even know if that is on anymore, can anybody confirm with RP if that is on still, is she around???) LOL.

The school has to make changes and they need to do it FAST!!!! IF that happens maybe students will get the incentive to work harder if they are not or maybe it will give the students incentive to not just go to the school to get their "STEP 1 ticket" but try and promote it and be proud they came from there, just like Ross and AUA students are proud to come from those schools.

[deepr]

Dude, who are you? I don't even know where to begin. Good thing I have some time on my hands, since, oh gee you know, I took step 1. First off, I don't agree with you, and don't say that I do. I said the school has problems, but you have to take it for what it is. I never said the school is so horrible like you make it out to be. If you don't like it here, transfer. Leave. No one is forcing you to go to school here. Stop being so ungrateful. It makes you look like a petulant child.

Second, the exams ARE easy compared to other school's exams. MUA, AUA give shelf exams as their finals. Trust me, Windsor exams are far from shelf exams. If you read the BRS once, you will pass a Windsor final. Why people do not pass from Windsor is beyond me. But that's just me. And the internal exams are 20, 25, 30 questions long. If you read everyday, are caught up with what the prof is teaching everyday, you will be more than ok when it comes to passing internal exams. The secret to do well here is to do well on your internal exams, so you don't sweat it come finals. That's what I did, and oh, what do you know? I passed every class. Which is more than I can say for you.

Third, stop going around telling people they fail you on purpose. That's not the case. They didn't fail me. They didn't fail alot of my class. If you have proof, not heresay, then by all means provide it. Ask yourself, did you do everything in your power to pass that class? Did you do the best you could possibly do? If those nights at the casino, ziggy's, marriott come to mind, you probably didn't do everything you could do to succeed. While everyone else was partying, I was studying. That was also my secret to not failing a course.

Fourth, medicine is 90% self study. Did Windsor prepare me fully for the step 1 exam? Yes and no. Whatever I didn't learn from the island, I taught myself. In a book. The school gives you six months from the time you leave semester 5 to take the exam. That's more than enough time to memorize first aid for step 1, read and memorize all of kaplan lecture notes, and do USMLE World questions 3 times over. I know, because that's what I did. In less than six months.

Yes the curriculum at Windsor is lacking. However, I would rather be at Windsor, know that if I work my tail off for 16 months, I'm off the island. If you were a student at AUA or MUA, and you fail a course, you repeat the semester. and pay for that semester too. I know people from those schools who have been on the island for three years. THREE YEARS. Once I pass the step 1 exam, I'll move on to clinicals. Where I'll be doing history and physical exams day in and day out. For three months in Internal Medicine rotation. I'm pretty sure I'll be ok in that dept after that experience.

Are all things rosy and perfect at Windsor? No. If I ran the school, I would do things differently. But, I don't, so it's a moot point to discuss. However, I am glad Windsor got me this far, and I wouldn't have gotten this far without them.

At the end of the day, you say you failed classes at Windsor. The administration is out to get you. Transfer to Trinity. Tell us if the grass is greener on the other side. As we all know, the ancient proverb says "the grass isn't always greener on the other side."

[winmd13]

shouldn't you being studying for step 1 or have you written it already??? You failed to answer my question the 1st time so im just curious to know cause you stated in your earlier post that you wrote it but now your studying for it? Does that mean your studying for it again, what is the deal? Im not trying to attack you but i want to know. And yea, u right a lot of what is on this thread could be bogus so whatever you tell me could very well be bogus also. But if the majority of pple are bad mouthing a school chances are there is big posibility that it is right and something is up. And FYI if your willing to pay for me to go to another school and start all over i will and i promise you that.

And for your information I wasn't one of those premed or md gamblers that would hit up the marriot (like the Dr. S does on a daily basis or Dr. G used to when he was there) or go to ziggies or spend mommy and daddies money on everything else but school.


Proof exams are flawed:

Unforunately, you were not there a cple semesters ago when they brought in exams from an unkown source and a majority of pple failed hardcore and they had to recount all the exams and it was a disaster (this happened more than once. And you said you were in cdale from jan-april 09 so that means you were in stkits at windsor school from aug-dec 08 when they had the same thing happen and all their exam questions came from a particular book and it didn't not come from the profs notes/slides nor did any of the profs write the exams) Ask anybody about it but u should know about it.

Tell me one thing, i know pple at mua, aua that have taken the shelf and have passed. They transfer to windsor to save money or cause they run outta money at their other school and when they get to windsor they fail their final exams and get grades like 30% or 35% when they used to be getting no less then 65% on the shelf. But you wouldn't know cause u haven't been to another school this is all bogus or heresay to u. I can ask you the same thing, do you have 100% proof that they did not fail your class?

And apprently we have this guy named md neel who has taped the administation saying they gonna fail students, well lets get it out there and lets here what they were saying. Sounds to be like its a bogus claim but if its tru then I rest my case. But i really don't need his proof cause im pointing out to you the facts.

Funny thing is its always the same few pple, including you, talking good about this school while there is a mjority who are not so in favor of this school. If I could transfer with all my credits I would but like i stated in my earlier posts, if you bothered to read it, no other school takes windsor credits except trinity, from what i hear.

Listen, I don't care who you are or where you come from or if u graduated magna cum laude from windsor or any other school or if you get 100% on the step, this is not a personal attack on you or anybody, so don't make it out to be. I am trying to tell pple here what the school is like and you even admitted in your posts that curriculum at windsor is bad and you do agree windsor has its problems. What im trying to do is elaborate on it and talk about the facts and try not to make somebody else go thru what i had to go thru or a what a majority of other pple have been thru. Fine, you were one of those lucky hard working students i guess, that passed. Kudos to you. But like i said, i know a lot of hardworking students who passed everything up until md4, never failed anything from premed to md3 and then all of a sudden failed everything in their final semester and they didn't party or hang out or gamble. Just be lucky u passed everything and u get to prepare now for step or whatever you are preparing for.

If i go to trinity, i will let you know how green the grass is on the other side.

[winmd13]

I only speak the truth and what i see bro, nothing else. I am not here to gain or lose anything and frankly i don't care who goes to windsor and who doesn't. I know what has been going on there and i want pple to be aware of it, that is all. Like i said its not a personal attack on pple posting here (unless your faculty or admin) but rather an attack against the school and what they are doing.

[md_neel]

:focus:.............................

[md_neel]

:focus:...................................

[Hiphopononomous]

I appreciate you being so forthcoming with information, but honestly, that is just painful to try and read. I hope that is a time saver issue and not normal grammar. But once again, I appreciate the information if actually true.

[winmd13]

LOL no no not at all and trust me I am not playing around my attorney told me no to give out too much info but for your clarification I will talk on this topic one more time... that was the third time when this kind of activity happened in front of me and I m not like you guys who follow wat dey tell u dere are alot of things happen under the windsor "Table" which u will know if one day u come in there "trusted" list .... so back to the point is first 2 times i talked to my parents and dey suggested dat I should record and try to solve this problem not for my sake not at all only to fix the issue ... MARK MY WORDS THERE WILL BE MAJOR CHANGES IN WINDSOR FROM NEXT WEEK ! and you think the retake which just happen instantly in Nov which btw neva happen, you think it happened cuz Dr. G (the owner) had a dream about it ? ... no my friend their are serious cases going on ... I am sumone who is always on the Windsor side I am amazed that this is sumthin unfair to the ppl who already did lose one chance and they will make dem lose one more ..... so question about proving so the right time will prove alot of things and bring alot of surprise... so if you are new or this is your first or 2nd sem den I will say wait and watch ... and plz I wont comment on it cuz dere are alot of family members and agents ! and dat can make my case really really weak !


Thanks for the information, like i said, i hope what u saying is true and credible and you can help a lot of pple save their time and hard-earned money.

Lets be honest, faculty at windsor think all us students from the states or canada have all this amount of money and that money grows on trees for us and we can just spend it without care......not in my case or anybodies case!

Md neel is right, they never had retakes in november before so it sounds like they need to make more money off students to pay for these lawsuits that r happening.......AGAIN!!!!!. A lot of you don't know but the only other time i remember retakes were diff was like cple yrs ago, that if you failed the retake exam ($100) you would take like 5 mini exams ($1000) of the course you failed, which were basically like mini internals and were comprised of 25-30 questions. You would do those exams once a week for like 5 weeks. Mostly everybody passed those but then apparently Dr. G, the dean, got tired of waking up every morning at 8 to administer these exams and because everybody wuld pass them the 2nd time around and windsor couldn't leech more money off students, they stopped it.

I wanted to ask you md neel, what did u mean by this???

I am sumone who is always on the Windsor side I am amazed that this is sumthin unfair to the ppl who already did lose one chance and they will make dem lose one more

[jack2000]

they have i think everything online... transcript, notes, slides and even exams all of it online but it will all start from Jan2010 dats wat my last updated info was.

nice but, it still requires unyielding focus and effort to print out all these
notes on a daily basis. sometimes printers , ribbond , ect dont cooperate as i have found out the hard way.

at sgu, ross, auc, ect all notes are preprinted and handed out or u can purchase them at the note center. bang, now thats service, an inavaluble luxury just like having maid service.;)

btw , how many pages of notes do u get per lecture??

thanks

[jsb411]

LOL no no not at all and trust me I am not playing around my attorney told me no to give out too much info but for your clarification I will talk on this topic one more time... that was the third time when this kind of activity happened in front of me and I m not like you guys who follow wat dey tell u dere are alot of things happen under the windsor "Table" which u will know if one day u come in there "trusted" list .... so back to the point is first 2 times i talked to my parents and dey suggested dat I should record and try to solve this problem not for my sake not at all only to fix the issue ... MARK MY WORDS THERE WILL BE MAJOR CHANGES IN WINDSOR FROM NEXT WEEK ! and you think the retake which just happen instantly in Nov which btw neva happen, you think it happened cuz Dr. G (the owner) had a dream about it ? ... no my friend their are serious cases going on ... I am sumone who is always on the Windsor side I am amazed that this is sumthin unfair to the ppl who already did lose one chance and they will make dem lose one more ..... so question about proving so the right time will prove alot of things and bring alot of surprise... so if you are new or this is your first or 2nd sem den I will say wait and watch ... and plz I wont comment on it cuz dere are alot of family members and agents ! and dat can make my case really really weak !

so are you a student there now in st kitts? I am done with st kitts and cdale, but would like to hear some more insight on whats going on?

[md_neel]

I apologize on miss leading ppl here and I cannot comment further on any thing any more plz and thank you

[winmd13]

I apologize on miss leading ppl here and I cannot comment further on any thing any more plz and thank you


Like I said b4 and I want to reiderate my comments, I hope what your saying is true about all the info you have and it is credible and will be available to the public in the near future, or we get to see these results next week (no way to really prove if anything will happen next week or if you are the main reason for the changes, if any) like you said. PM me if you can and we can talk. I faith in what you saying and I hope we have not heard or seen the last from you, but when something sounds too good to be true it usually is.

[winmd13]

can't pm for some reason and nothing is going thru that i know of so pm me your email address.

let me know if something went thru

[PalakPaneer]

:focus:...................................
I am saddened to see that you have removed your insight on Windsor. You provided valuable information (i.e. the truth) about Windsor. Why deny the truth? Prospective students need the right information so that they are not mislead by (a) students who have graduated from the island and have not witnessed the atrocities, (b) innocent students that believe Windsor is in the best interest of the students, and most importantly, (c) agents spreading pro-Windsor propaganda on this forum.

[meishern]

Wow. Ok. Windsor is a 2nd rate Caribbean school. Its not Harvard. Its not even King County College Medical School (if it existed). Windsor don't give a crap about u. Why should they? BUT. Windsor will give you a diploma with MD on it. There are licensed docs now practicing in USA and have this diploma hanging on their wall. What else do you want? Obviously MCATs and your GPA kicked your butt so no USA medical school wants to even look at you. What are you complaining about?!? You have a shot at getting that MD if you stay away from the 17 year olds who are enjoying freedom for the first time in their life. Nobody is failing you on purpose. There is no black-list. The director doesn't give an evil grin to the monitor when he picks the next student to fail out. If you use your time to study instead of getting drunk/high and memorize high yield instead of trying to get laid, maybe u will be removed from this imaginary 'fail list'.

[meishern]

I am saddened to see that you have removed your insight on Windsor. You provided valuable information (i.e. the truth) about Windsor. Why deny the truth? Prospective students need the right information so that they are not mislead by (a) students who have graduated from the island and have not witnessed the atrocities, (b) innocent students that believe Windsor is in the best interest of the students, and most importantly, (c) agents spreading pro-Windsor propaganda on this forum.


The only thing md_neel provided was unsubstantiated claims that he refused to back up because of his lawyers and parents. Perhaps this is why he deleted every post he made. If you PalakPaneer consider gossip and hot air to be 'valuable information', well... Secret Agent md_neel equiped with a tape-recorder on the advice of his mama somehow was present at high level internal discussions inside Windsor where he taped the director. Comon. I don't work for Windsor nor care if the whole university is corrupt. This the Caribbean. I for one am happy that one bag of hot air deflated.

[PalakPaneer]

Wow. Ok. Windsor is a 2nd rate Caribbean school. Its not Harvard. Its not even King County College Medical School (if it existed). Windsor don't give a crap about u. Why should they? BUT. Windsor will give you a diploma with MD on it. There are licensed docs now practicing in USA and have this diploma hanging on their wall. What else do you want? Obviously MCATs and your GPA kicked your butt so no USA medical school wants to even look at you. What are you complaining about?!? You have a shot at getting that MD if you stay away from the 17 year olds who are enjoying freedom for the first time in their life. Nobody is failing you on purpose. There is no black-list. The director doesn't give an evil grin to the monitor when he picks the next student to fail out. If you use your time to study instead of getting drunk/high and memorize high yield instead of trying to get laid, maybe u will be removed from this imaginary 'fail list'.

First of all, I am a prospective student; nice to know that "Windsor don't give a crap" about me. I already knew that by the way they are handling their phone calls.

According to you, I have bad MCATs/GPA and get drunk/high/laid. Nice generalization of the typical Windsor student, but do you know who I am? Really, do you?

[Allthaticanbe]

Yeah the phone situation is quite annoying which is why you should call at around 2:00pm EST, Monday to Thursday. They usually are all in the office at that time. I think only about 10 people at most work in that office, maybe even less. Also the nicer you are to the them, the quicker things get done and the more willing they are to help. And don't wait till the last minute to do anything. I'm already filling out OSAP documents four months in advance!
But remeber at 5,000 a semester including housing your not going to get five star treatment. (And to be honest I have the same problems from administration at my Undergrad).

[meishern]

I was a student at Pace University, Brooklyn College, Florida Atlantic U, Florida Institute Technology. Not one of those schools gave a crap about the students. You had to sink or swim on your own. If you expect that a Caribbean medical school will hold your hand and tuck you in every night, you should do a reality check. :doh:

[PalakPaneer]

I was a student at Pace University, Brooklyn College, Florida Atlantic U, Florida Institute Technology. Not one of those schools gave a crap about the students. You had to sink or swim on your own. If you expect that a Caribbean medical school will hold your hand and tuck you in every night, you should do a reality check. :doh:

meishern,

I think you misunderstood me. So what if Windsor doesn't care about me?

Windsor has surpassed a certain threshold. As mentioned before, they allegedly continously fail people on person, change grades, fail to release transcripts, etc. I don't think that the schools you mentioned would ever participate in these types of illegal and unethical activities. That is why I have decided not to go to Windsor.

[winmd13]

Listen, no medical school should have to "tuck" or "baby" any medical student unless your in premed and even then you shouldn't have to be babied around. I've been to undergrad (paid less in undergrad then at windsor) and I know how it is, your literally just a number just like everybody else no matter who you are. However, in undergrad the professors are far more superior and they teach much better so there is no need to be babied around because everything is laid out for you and the professors tell u what to study and how to study......rest is up to you. Essentially, I think that is being babied but in a professional way.

Also, professors are available to help students out and to guide them after hours which doesn't happen at windsor. Windsor does ALOT of unethical things which students don't know about until they get there. I bet you other schools do not. Windsor admin probably has this mentality that every semester they get fresh new students to prey on and steal their money. Yeah, I admit tuition is the cheapest by far, but I would rather they increase tuition and get proper professors and better staff so students don't have to worry about hidden fees and the school failing students on purpose to make up for their cheap tuition. No matter if your in the caribbean or in harvard the school has a responsibility to maintain their integrity and be there for the students and not lie, steal, and change things around on them last minute. I keep on hearing that they have changed the prices for these upcoming november retakes so many times. The administration keeps on changing the prices of retakes and they never stick to one thing.

Like i have said before don't take my word for it. Talk to the students that have transferred out of windsor recently or have gone thru this terrible system and if that is not enough go to the school and find out for yourself.


PS. Its been more than a week where is md_neel, I thought he said some big changes were coming this week?

[me.no-doc]

hello all:

I am not a student at windsor but heard a lot from many windsor students who have been criticizing the teaching staff. not all could be wrong. few told me that there is a nigerian guy name Yekeen, who prefers to teach bible rather than the real stuff and in fact has discussed frequently about the bible teachings. now that is outrageous when he wastes time with bible and blame the students for not studying hard. I hope he doesn't have some hard african accent that ......... only nigerians can understand him :confused:

that man should know that the students are there to study medicine not theology. the college admin staff is another joke. try to communicate with them. god would come and talk to the students (if there was any) but not those inefficient people.

So how all this could be changed? A zero registration would cerntainly shake those banyias to implement quick reforms or the new school (trinity) might be the ultimate choice.

Before going to the new school, you must ensure that school offers exactly what windsor does, their game plan, arrangement for clinical rotations, finances, assisting in usmle exams and so on, that the school is not a "quick money making scam". although people have to take a chance as they did when Windsor USM first opened its doors.

Gadaam's interest is to make money only, since he always points the finger on the students. while it is true that "some students" have come there for "good time" but most are diligent who want make a career. Gadaam has ignored their plight and that is outrageous.

Correct me if I am wrong.

[jsb411]

hello all:

I am not a student at windsor but heard a lot from many windsor students who have been criticizing the teaching staff. not all could be wrong. few told me that there is a nigerian guy name Yekeen, who prefers to teach bible rather than the real stuff and in fact has discussed frequently about the bible teachings. now that is outrageous when he wastes time with bible and blame the students for not studying hard. I hope he doesn't have some hard african accent that ......... only nigerians can understand him :confused:

that man should know that the students are there to study medicine not theology. the college admin staff is another joke. try to communicate with them. god would come and talk to the students (if there was any) but not those inefficient people.

So how all this could be changed? A zero registration would cerntainly shake those banyias to implement quick reforms or the new school (trinity) might be the ultimate choice.

Before going to the new school, you must ensure that school offers exactly what windsor does, their game plan, arrangement for clinical rotations, finances, assisting in usmle exams and so on, that the school is not a "quick money making scam". although people have to take a chance as they did when Windsor USM first opened its doors.

Gadaam's interest is to make money only, since he always points the finger on the students. while it is true that "some students" have come there for "good time" but most are diligent who want make a career. Gadaam has ignored their plight and that is outrageous.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Yes, I Agree with a majority of what you said. Their are a lot of things that need to be put out about this school that are the truths. ****** only concern is money and not the interest of his students. Many students have complained and then they turn the blame game back on the students and try to punish them. First he needs to learn how to talk and treat his students. He does not answer questions, but instead runs around with the answers. Everytime someone asks about the New York application, he runs around in circles about the question. Then if someone brings up everyone failed an exam, its your fault? I don't know one school that has 46 people fail an exam and no one passes. Those kinds of actions would lead to the exam either not fair, not covered material was tested or they failed everyone? If soo many people have failed, a curve should be implemented on the highest score of the exam and then broken down from their. I wouldn't be suprised if the school collaspes in a few years after all this nonsense hes creating.

[winmd13]

So, windsor is a religion school now!?!? LOL

They need to change a lot about this school especially how they conduct their exams and HOW NOT TO CHEAT PPLE ON THEM.

Unfortunately, they will never make any changes, the admin of this school have an old school indian mentality and have been taken over by money and how much they can make. They don't care about anything or anyone. If you guys think Dr. G will make any immediate changes you are wrong.

[AM415]

hello all:

I am not a student at windsor but heard a lot from many windsor students who have been criticizing the teaching staff. not all could be wrong. few told me that there is a nigerian guy name Yekeen, who prefers to teach bible rather than the real stuff and in fact has discussed frequently about the bible teachings. now that is outrageous when he wastes time with bible and blame the students for not studying hard. I hope he doesn't have some hard african accent that ......... only nigerians can understand him :confused:

that man should know that the students are there to study medicine not theology. the college admin staff is another joke. try to communicate with them. god would come and talk to the students (if there was any) but not those inefficient people.

So how all this could be changed? A zero registration would cerntainly shake those banyias to implement quick reforms or the new school (trinity) might be the ultimate choice.

Before going to the new school, you must ensure that school offers exactly what windsor does, their game plan, arrangement for clinical rotations, finances, assisting in usmle exams and so on, that the school is not a "quick money making scam". although people have to take a chance as they did when Windsor USM first opened its doors.

Gadaam's interest is to make money only, since he always points the finger on the students. while it is true that "some students" have come there for "good time" but most are diligent who want make a career. Gadaam has ignored their plight and that is outrageous.

Correct me if I am wrong.

You seem to know quite a bit for a not being a student. In fact, this seems like you're promoting Trinity.

Anyways, before you go bash the professors, you should know your information on Yakeen is wrong. Although hes not the best teacher, he never teaches Bible. In fact, hes not even Christian. And I can understand him and I'm not Nigerian

[me.no-doc]

You seem to know quite a bit for a not being a student. In fact, this seems like you're promoting Trinity.

Anyways, before you go bash the professors, you should know your information on Yakeen is wrong. Although hes not the best teacher, he never teaches Bible. In fact, hes not even Christian. And I can understand him and I'm not Nigerian

read my post carefully! i told everyone to be cautious before they choose to go to trinity. check inside out of that place because a lot of private schools come with the attitude of quick "money scam".

however, the yekin's bible reading was substantiated by 7 other students. one could be shootin' hot air but not all. my personal experience seems to substantiate that afro origin people tend to believe too much in god and would discuss with whosoever they confront. I am positive that he would not discuss Koran (there are only two religions in Africa Islam and Christianity)

now when you say "he is not the best teacher" did you know the impact of his teaching style will hurt many students? if you pay for something you reserve the right to "demand" your money's worth. If the school ignores your plea then what other option would you have?

[Allthaticanbe]

read my post carefully! i told everyone to be cautious before they choose to go to trinity. check inside out of that place because a lot of private schools come with the attitude of quick "money scam".

however, the yekin's bible reading was substantiated by 7 other students. one could be shootin' hot air but not all. my personal experience seems to substantiate that afro origin people tend to believe too much in god and would discuss with whosoever they confront. I am positive that he would not discuss Koran (there are only two religions in Africa Islam and Christianity)

now when you say "he is not the best teacher" did you know the impact of his teaching style will hurt many students? if you pay for something you reserve the right to "demand" your money's worth. If the school ignores your plea then what other option would you have?

Um you should have deleted that entire second paragraph....it steams of ignorance. And hurt your argument.

[Hiphopononomous]

I am sorry, and dont want this to turn into a religious debate here. But non-Muslim students have been quite accepting of the Muslim students at Windsor. With male students washing their feet in the sinks in the bathrooms (unsanitary), to using a classroom when people need to study / have class for prayer. I dont believe mentioning something regarding Christianity is anymore of an over-stepping of boundaries than the above mentioned examples. Both religions have foundational principles regarding tolerance and acceptance. While you may not believe in what he is saying, at least be accepting of his right to his own opinion when it is not being forced upon you for the purpose of changing your views. This is in fact a private institution and not state run, so rules of church and state do not apply.

As a non-Indian student, I am routinely subjected to the use of phrasing things as "back home we did it this way or that" or to languages other than English. However, I dont use that as a source of complaining about professors. If you have complaints, your argument would carry more weight if its based on how he teaches or how much (MD4 students have professors who are habitually late), rather than a single phrase that contradicts what you believe.

[winmd13]

Lets stick to the subject and not go off topic and make this a religious debate, it has no place in this discussion.

[SWOLL68]

read my post carefully! i told everyone to be cautious before they choose to go to trinity. check inside out of that place because a lot of private schools come with the attitude of quick "money scam".

however, the yekin's bible reading was substantiated by 7 other students. one could be shootin' hot air but not all. my personal experience seems to substantiate that afro origin people tend to believe too much in god and would discuss with whosoever they confront. I am positive that he would not discuss Koran (there are only two religions in Africa Islam and Christianity)

now when you say "he is not the best teacher" did you know the impact of his teaching style will hurt many students? if you pay for something you reserve the right to "demand" your money's worth. If the school ignores your plea then what other option would you have?

Who are you to say that someone believes too much in God? The willingness to discuss Him or any other deity has nothing to do with how much someone believes. Your ignorance is astounding.

[Hiphopononomous]

That was my point - the topic of this is about a new school that is in direct competition with Windsor. If you have complaints, they should be about how good the teachers are and not about what the teachers believe. There is plenty to debate regarding the functionality of the school than to use this professors religion as a means of conveying ones point of view about the school.

[me.no-doc]

Who are you to say that someone believes too much in God? The willingness to discuss Him or any other deity has nothing to do with how much someone believes. Your ignorance is astounding.

my experience kid! I have seen the world and you have yet to see it. It's naive of those who see my comments as an insult to one's religious feelings. I just put the fact (based on my experience) that some races talk more about god than the others.
I would not be surprised that yekin did that.
by saying that most africans seem to believe more in god than others is not a racial bias. based on that fact, i am inclined to believe in what I was told.

:peace:

[SWOLL68]

my experience kid! I have seen the world and you have yet to see it. It's naive of those who see my comments as an insult to one's religious feelings. I just put the fact (based on my experience) that some races talk more about god than the others.
I would not be surprised that yekin did that.
by saying that most africans seem to believe more in god than others is not a racial bias. based on that fact, i am inclined to believe in what I was told.

:peace:

First off, do you know my age? The fact that you decide to call me "kid" in a condescending manner would suggest that you're compensating for something. Perhaps little man syndrome. Also, talking yourself up about seeing the world (and again, throwing a condescending remark in) also adds to that.

You are one person. Why do you think that when scientific trials happen they include so many people? Because the experience or effects of the trial can be different for everyone. You need alot of people in order to come to an accurate conclusion. Yet you are basing your conclusion off of solely your own experiences. You aren't stating a fact. The difference between fact and opinion is that a fact is based off of truth, is the same for anyone and everyone, etc. Opinions by definition are a personal view or belief. Your statement fits a belief perfectly.

And even if your beliefs are true, what relevance do they have to "I hear that there is a new school coming in st.kitts from jan 2010?"

[zaintekv]

Peace. Lets be nice to each other. Eventually we will be great Doctors to serve humanity!