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AUCMD2006
06-01-2004, 07:18 PM
i am so freakin tired of school, this island, and generally anything having to do with medicine....my motivation to study is at an all time low which wasn't helped any by the massacre in lecture room 4.....oh right better get back to studying and stop looking at the SC site....

stephew
06-01-2004, 07:39 PM
i am so freakin tired of school, this island, and generally anything having to do with medicine....my motivation to study is at an all time low which wasn't helped any by the massacre in lecture room 4.....oh right better get back to studying and stop looking at the SC site....
welcome to med school. You really havent been there till now.
(it gets better I assure you.)

teratos
06-01-2004, 08:57 PM
i am so freakin tired of school, this island, and generally anything having to do with medicine....my motivation to study is at an all time low which wasn't helped any by the massacre in lecture room 4.....oh right better get back to studying and stop looking at the SC site....

uh.....................

WantMD
06-02-2004, 11:05 AM
You're almost done Rich. Hang in there.

WantMD :-)

microphage
06-02-2004, 03:10 PM
gee... great. I have so much to look forward to next semester... :cry:

FLK
06-02-2004, 09:07 PM
sounds like you're ready to graduate.

PS: did I mention how Unmotivated I was this morning at 615 when I had to get up to work all day....damned pistons kept me up too late

least I'm getting paid so it's a little easier to get out of bed

levator
06-02-2004, 09:46 PM
i am so freakin tired of school, this island, and generally anything having to do with medicine....my motivation to study is at an all time low which wasn't helped any by the massacre in lecture room 4.....oh right better get back to studying and stop looking at the SC site....

hey rich!! :!: :!:

look at it this way: everyone in our class is miserable :cry: . everyone ahead of us is smirking because they went through it and after they were done with it, they probably never gave it a second thought 8) . everyone behind us is thinking that we are a bunch of whiners and that there is no way it is as bad as we are saying :evil: . in a couple of months we are going to join the former and everyone else behind us will become us :twisted: and see what we were talking about. there are only like 73 days left in the semester... but i am not counting :shock: . it will be a breeze. :roll:

later,

adriayn
06-03-2004, 06:53 AM
I saw another "vent" post from Rich and I just had to read it... :twisted:
I understand your pain...I see a similar version of it walking in the front door around midnight every night. Hang in there, soon you'll be knee deep in snow but much happier :wink:

AUCMD2006
06-03-2004, 04:33 PM
thing that keeps me going is all my classmates, we are all in the same boat. at least the light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter. i wish i got paid like flk then maybe it would be worth it....i agree damn lakers they don't deserve it!
and adriayn if it wasn't for dan and your daughters i'd failed out long time ago they remind me why i am doing this every day....

adriayn
06-06-2004, 07:09 PM
You're doing fine Rich...but it's good to know that we can help! (background noise: 2 little girls yelling, "Mr. Rich!!!) :lol:

teratos
06-06-2004, 07:24 PM
You're doing fine Rich...but it's good to know that we can help! (background noise: 2 little girls yelling, "Mr. Rich!!!) :lol:


Just as an aside, the girls are topless... :D

geoff
06-06-2004, 11:22 PM
I wonder how you'd feel after your fifth skipped weekend....and on your second year of being a Wendy's take out window specialist?

adriayn
06-07-2004, 04:40 PM
Mind your manners Dr. Durst...those are MY little girls you're talking about :shock:

sohomale
06-07-2004, 05:11 PM
rrod, I don't want to aggitate an already inflammed situation but didn't you have an idea of what the rigors of medical school were going to be before you began? or are your frustrations primarily due to your experiences at AUC or on SXM?

Also 2 quick questions if you don't mind sharing:
Were you deciding on other career paths before choosing medicine and are you straight out from undergrad?

archon218
06-07-2004, 05:34 PM
Stay focused

AUCMD2006
06-07-2004, 06:53 PM
you could never prepare yourself for anything like this, you can think its gonna be difficult and beleive me i never expected it to be easy but the amount of energy needed just to keep up is astounding...then you get basically a week off and start the whole process again while the amount of material more than doubles each semester.

the material isn't hard or difficult to understand by any means its just a matter of volume. you can take undergrad anatomy, biochem etc classes but its not like this. granted you will have an easier time than the business majors but you will stumble in one or another area. there is no inflammed situtation i'm just sick and tired of studying everydday.

its not the school i can assure you there are more good things than bad school wise and not the island i never go out anyway, just a general feeling of this will never end.....

just enjoy your last days of freedom.

i got a degree in architecture in four years decided it wasn't for me then got a biology/chemistry/psych degrees in three years so i was used to a ton of school work just nothing like this.....

JewishDr'sWife
06-07-2004, 07:35 PM
That's not the impression I got from rrod. I got the feeling of "ugh this isn't undergrad school I have to work super hard at this all the time" "ugh I want the goodies now" (which everyone feels like at some point) and in my case "ugh no more anatomy lab clothes please god PLEASE!! My contacts fall out from the fumes!" :lol:

AUCMD2006
06-08-2004, 06:52 PM
when i first got here i thought all the 4th and 5th semester students were bitter jerks without a positive thing to say and now i know why and am now the ahole waiting to get outta here before they raise tuition again :lol:

teratos
06-08-2004, 10:09 PM
I wish I could say "wait until residency", but with the new work hour rules it's almost a vacation. What the heck can you get done in just 80 hours a week? Now, back when I was a resident......... G

levator
06-08-2004, 11:28 PM
when i first got here i thought all the 4th and 5th semester students were bitter jerks without a positive thing to say and now i know why and am now the ahole waiting to get outta here before they raise tuition again :lol:


:twisted: thats funny... i used to think the same thing my first couple of semesters here... i would wonder what was up with these upperclassmen that did not speak to anyone and had these long, angry faces full of stress acne. now i have joined this elite group of professional students and i am told that i have become as heartless and hateful as them. oh well!!! i still think that we are going to get through it all....i just cant see the light at the end of the tunnel yet :shock: ... lets keep digging rich.

later :roll:

AUCMD2006
06-09-2004, 03:54 PM
they have no idea what lies ahead of them....i see their faces clean shaven, nice haircuts, pressed clothes and the look of utter joy at being here and it just makes me sick :evil: then i get asked a question about a class and crush them with the awful news:

it just gets worse as time goes on, there is no hump, there is no light at the end of the tunnel, its a depressing downward spiral into textbook hell until 5th semester that is. i get a glimpse every now and then during the kaplan breaks. time to get back to path pharm psych....

microphage
06-09-2004, 04:09 PM
Yeah, poor souls don't know what they gotten themselves into... I don't know what to look forward to anymore. 7 more years..... Ah yes, I see light.

JewishDr'sWife
06-10-2004, 05:30 PM
Of course there's no good things to look forward to after those 7 years. Nothing such as no questions asked on credit for your mortgage, money, instant respect once they see that Dr. in front of your name, Trophy wives ( for you frumpy single students that gawk at us women from your window :evil: ), um knowing what to do when someone in your family is injured and there's no one else there to help you, having a big ol' grin on your face when you go to your high school reunion after you see very few people are as accomplished as you..... :roll:

Did I forget money and respect? How about admiration from people who know nothing more than your title?

Yeah so can it whiny boy. Eat some Wheaties and buck up. :-flasing

AUCMD2006
06-11-2004, 10:31 AM
to see endure the heat when you're not in the kitchen isn't it? :lol:

being married for a number of years i have mastered the art of complaing just like a woman so instead of going out and playiong ball that is my coping mechanism........

all those things you see such as money, prestige, not being asked for a credit report, high school reunion are all from a spouses perspective heres mine after just working with doctors:

1) money and prestige, yes but only in the eyes of your patients to insurance companies and the government you are a lying thief who just wants to get paid for doing nothing. to pharmaceutical companies you are just a nametag and a meal check to increase dividend payments. to your malpractice carrier you are a guaranteed 12% profit increase per anum. to a lwayer you are a mercedez payment.

2) women, those type allways look for the BBD (bigger better deal) so once they use you to meet the chief in plastic surgery you can say goodbye to your trophy wife and half your check.

3) knowing what to do when your family gets sick. you end up having family you never knew about calling you the obgyn for a skin rash and expect you to treat them allthe way from kalamazoo.

4) big grin on your face at high school reunion yep to go along with all the wrinkles from woring 110 hours per week to support your tropy wife, make malpractice premiums, and paying the lawyer to defend you from a medicare audit while billy bob the truck driver makes just asmuch as you works 8 months out of the year while spending 4 months coaching little league with his kids....then you try and remember what your kids names are?


so to all spouses no matter how close you are to your hubby you will never "understand" this expereince and to people in it for the porsche, it ain't worth it unless you love it......i happen to love medicine and go into it full knowing that it ain't about the bling bling but helping disimpact bowels and not getting thanked most of the time....

levator
06-11-2004, 02:41 PM
to see endure the heat when you're not in the kitchen isn't it? :lol:

being married for a number of years i have mastered the art of complaing just like a woman so instead of going out and playiong ball that is my coping mechanism........

all those things you see such as money, prestige, not being asked for a <a target=new href=http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click?bfmid=13376670&siteid=40341639&bfpage=banners_ccms>credit report</a>, high school reunion are all from a spouses perspective heres mine after just working with doctors:

1) money and prestige, yes but only in the eyes of your patients to insurance companies and the government you are a lying thief who just wants to get paid for doing nothing. to pharmaceutical companies you are just a nametag and a meal check to increase dividend payments. to your malpractice carrier you are a guaranteed 12% profit increase per anum. to a lwayer you are a mercedez payment.

2) women, those type allways look for the BBD (bigger better deal) so once they use you to meet the chief in plastic surgery you can say goodbye to your trophy wife and half your check.

3) knowing what to do when your family gets sick. you end up having family you never knew about calling you the obgyn for a skin rash and expect you to treat them allthe way from kalamazoo.

4) big grin on your face at high school reunion yep to go along with all the wrinkles from woring 110 hours per week to support your tropy wife, make malpractice premiums, and paying the lawyer to defend you from a medicare audit while billy bob the truck driver makes just asmuch as you works 8 months out of the year while spending 4 months coaching little league with his kids....then you try and remember what your kids names are?


so to all spouses no matter how close you are to your hubby you will never "understand" this expereince and to people in it for the porsche, it ain't worth it unless you love it......i happen to love medicine and go into it full knowing that it ain't about the bling bling but helping disimpact bowels and not getting thanked most of the time....


thank you rich... well said. i agree that sometimes spouces have a hard time here, especially when they see their significant other stressed and not being their normal self but i dont know if i can ever make someone i care about understand what this is like and what goes through my head while I try to decide what the right answer is to a difficult question (especially when my answer might affect my family as much as it might affect me). i have worked with health proffesionals also and if you want to be happy in this field, you must do it because you will love it... not because you will have someone (a trophy) to show around at reunions. that to me is disgracing, both as a future doctor and mostly disgracing towards that person that i will be with one day. i know that even if i make money one day... that day is a very distant one so this long road we are all taking... has to be for something above money and prestige.

later,

beach bum
06-11-2004, 04:09 PM
It could be worse. I just took a peek at the Saba site and they have welcoming thread titles like- "Another Rape at Saba"...

wifeofDr2b
06-11-2004, 04:12 PM
Hopefully the majority of med students have better motivations for staying in med school. I know a lot of them don't (at any med school), but I do know many med school students and doctors who are/were never that shallow.

Trophy wife: yes, that sure is a benefit to becoming a doctor :roll:

As far as money and respect go: there are far "easier" paths to go down than that of med school...so if that is your motivation for becoming a doctor...you're not too smart.

High School Reunions: please! If you are concerned about that one, you should go seek the help of a doctor, not become one.

After all the years of med school and residency, I think all doctors will be able to look back and appreciate all the hard work they successfully accomplished. Everyone will have their own motivation for staying with it just as everyone will have their days/weeks/months/semesters of crap. Med school isn't easy...if it were, many more would be trying to get in. As a wife of a med student, I know I can't understand all the trials med school brings. But I can listen and offer support to my hubby and to his friends. I think the med students are entitled to a few vents.

Hemo Dynamic
06-11-2004, 05:41 PM
I have been in the working world for over twelve years as an echocardiographer. I make over $75,000/year. With my wifes income we pull in over $100K per year. I work 40-50 hours per week (depending on call). I have awesome credit. I buy whatever I want or need. I have a wonderful wife and two wonderful children, I spend tons of time with my two boys and my wife. And now I am going to med school.

Why would I do that? Especially after reading all the negative feedback.

There must be some deeper reason :shock:

JewishDr'sWife
06-12-2004, 10:35 AM
to see endure the heat when you're not in the kitchen isn't it? :lol:

being married for a number of years i have mastered the art of complaing just like a woman so instead of going out and playiong ball that is my coping mechanism............


a)You are getting more and more funny with every PO'd post :lol: Nice to know some people are developing the FLK style of humor rather than take me SOOOO seriously :roll:


1) money and prestige, yes but only in the eyes of your patients to insurance companies and the government you are a lying thief who just wants to get paid for doing nothing.

a) Odd, all my years in Automotive AND Programming yeilded the same comments! Small world.


2) women, those type allways look for the BBD (bigger better deal) so once they use you to meet the chief in plastic surgery you can say goodbye to your trophy wife and half your check.

a) Ah yes, but the same can be said for professionals who have "outgrown" that same woman and go for prettier, more dependant, and more boastful about what their spouce does. Goes both ways. Face it though dude, most people of higher educations/incomes/intelligence all seem to gravitate towards a person who is not their equal in brains or beauty. It's that "needed" factor.

Personally I married my lovie because he's just as strange as me and we have the BEST debates, enjoy the same food, share an almost dangerous sense of adventure..... In fact after we were engaged it had to be explained to me that med school was just for doctors. I honestly thought any career in medical things (even med assistants, billing, lab techs...) all went to med school. :lol: What can I say, medical is not my forte, cars and computer software is.

3) knowing what to do when your family gets sick. you end up having family you never knew about calling you the obgyn for a skin rash and expect you to treat them allthe way from kalamazoo.

a) Again, that will happen anywhere. Imagine how many times (you'll love this rrod) I was called with a person who asked "um, I put disel in my millenia s miller cycle engine by mistake and drove from Jacksonville to orlando and now it makes this noise.....is that gonna cost me a lot to fix?" or how about "my check engine light came on three years ago and hasn't been on since, does that mean my car's gonna die? Can you have some guy come out here and check it?" :lol:

4) big grin on your face at high school reunion yep to go along with all the wrinkles from woring 110 hours per week to support your tropy wife, make malpractice premiums, and paying the lawyer to defend you from a medicare audit while billy bob the truck driver makes just asmuch as you works 8 months out of the year while spending 4 months coaching little league with his kids....then you try and remember what your kids names are?

a) this one was so funny I don't even have a response to it. Um, time management and priorities? Besides, the key to having an education is to work smarter, not harder. You can do it. Go rrod! Tell the boss man NO! :P . Besides if you have a great marriage, you'll both work together to find time.

so to all spouses no matter how close you are to your hubby you will never "understand" this expereince and to people in it for the porsche, it ain't worth it unless you love it......i happen to love medicine and go into it full knowing that it ain't about the bling bling but helping disimpact bowels and not getting thanked most of the time....

:lol: You can love any job for 5 years. Then it gets to you and you'll need more reasons. My Love is very good at what he does, is gifted at helping old people, and does the right thing. But this is also a business. Investing in yourself and your loved ones is not something to look past or say is not important.

You know, I'm so glad I stirred up the hornets' nest. To hear comments of other people say real reasons to keep going at AUC rather than the cliche phrases that were salad tossed about in order to cheer rrod up. I hope such passion will stay with you guys and keep you fired up as you become the mitzvah of human life. After all, it is you who will comfort the suffering, bring hope when there is none, and be the most trusted of all people.