Respect

[Doc Holiday]

I'm writing this post not to be disgusting but to make a point about respect for other people.

Has anyone taken notice of the fact that during this semester the bathrooms on campus have remained clean for the most part. The people that were destroying them day after day seem to have left the premises. They were urinating on the floor, defacating on the seats and the walls and leaving the bathrooms in such a state of disrepair that no one else could use them until they had been cleaned. These were just some of the offenses. I've seen toilet seats that had been ripped clean from their hinges. Last semester there were entire bathrooms that had to be shut down because people had to behave like pigs.

What I find funny is that all this seemed to have stopped as soon as the current 5th semester left the island. I'm not pointing any fingers but this to me sounds like a correlation. I sure wouldn't want to be trying to find a restroom at Larkin Hospital right about now.

Back to my point. This is about having respect for other people. Not only for others who might have to use the bathroom but also for those who have to clean them.

[Ganja Magic]

The bathrooms will get trashed during the week and weekend before the mini, especially when the library opens 24 hours and more people are around.

[oc23]

personally, i feel so bad for the housekeeping staff that have to clean the bathrooms and i feel so embarassed. what they must think of us!

[Ganja Magic]

personally, i feel so bad for the housekeeping staff that have to clean the bathrooms and i feel so embarassed. what they must think of us!

Good point. Watch some of the housekeeping ladies after their shift in the late afternoon, sit on the bench outside the library, waiting for the transport to go home. The looks on their faces as they observe students blabbering inanely into cell phones, smoking like chimneys, and involved in various forms of student drama says a lot about what they think about us as a group. I certainly hope thats not what they think all American students are like...

[link626]

maybe some students really do have a physical problem with their gear.....
perhaps some students really can't shoot straight... :P or they've been sitting too long and are constipated, and when they push hard, their backsides explode all over the seat.

don't they have those paper toilet covers in the restrooms?

[Junito]

No such luck. I guess it may add an extra expense for the university. Use the good ol' fashion way: use toilet paper instead. Now I wonder why they close the bathrooms by classroom 6 after a certain time. Maybe they are afraid someone may trash those bathrooms.

Juni

[oc23]

deleted...duplicate.

(isn't there any way to actually delete a post? :roll: )

[oc23]

not even all major u.s. cities have toilet seat covers, so why would we be surprised that they don't have it here...if people would just learn to be respectful of school property and the cleaning ladies, there wouldn't be any problems.

[medNoir]

3rd semester micro had a new lecturer today.
Granted she isn't the greatest orator
and I understand if students feel their time is better spent elsewhere.

But many students were leaving in the middle of lecture and slaming the door on their way out. It was getting hard to hear what she was saying.

I guess they wanted the world to feel sorry for them that their oh so precious time was wasted. But the plan backfired because I was starting to feel sorry for the lecturer instead.

[BigBrother]

Not all students who go to Ross are American.

[Kat]

While I will not argue that some are strange people here that get jollies from destroying the bathroom facilities, a few more things should be said here. Firstly, the students are not entirely to blame for the conditions of the bathrooms. We all might agree government enforced health regulations are a feature that separates first world countries from third world, which in no way implies those of underdeveloped countries like Dominica are all dirty, but this is just not as high a priority as say enforcing criminal law. If you ever wanted to be happy you pay income taxes, now is the time. Given this, Ross is providing restroom facilities as it sees necessary, not as a governing body might require it to. I will assume you went to undergrad in the states: was there a bathroom in provided cafteria/food court area? Of course. It wasnt provided because the school cared about your comfort, but because the school was required to by law. Health regulations call for one toilet per an estimsted number of occupants in a building. Therefore, it is of little consequence to Ross what sort of condition the bathroom is in, and hence nothing has been done about it even as people have ranted about this for months now. It is not correct to place this on one person, as these bathroom atrocities occur in both male and female restrooms, campuswide.

Have you ever seen a group of Ross employees standing around, not doing squat?
Secondly, I have a hard time feeling sympathetic for the employees at Ross; I wish I had a job in the states where the employer felt the customer is always WRONG, the employee is always right. Ross is in no way going to risk getting flak from anyone for pushing an employee too hard and that is exactly why the employees at Ross do as little as they do, ie the librarians. This is a cultural difference in work ethics, and probably not something that will change for as long as Ross resides on Dominica.
Finally, you are all going to be or are doctors: When the human body consumes food tainted by the 4F's, the results are not pretty. That statement I made about one toilet per estimated occupants in a building should be tripled when all the occupants in the building are running to the bathroom from a shack attack!

[archon218]

Culture between groups can be a touchy subject. Americanized people might be more leniant toward behavior vs. a specific group that scrutinize their own. People will learn or continue in their ignorance. However, it is important to remember that Ross has a number of international students that will go back to their country, where things are different.

[TaxiDriver]

graphic removed as it is not appropriate on this forum

[Ganja Magic]

Ah, what a classy way to illustrate your opinion of this thread.

:)

[TaxiDriver]

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/1989threadsucksConandog.jpg

[oc23]

While I will not argue that some are strange people here that get jollies from destroying the bathroom facilities, a few more things should be said here. Firstly, the students are not entirely to blame for the conditions of the bathrooms.

Have you ever seen a group of Ross employees standing around, not doing squat?
Secondly, I have a hard time feeling sympathetic for the employees at Ross; I wish I had a job in the states where the employer felt the customer is always WRONG, the employee is always right. Ross is in no way going to risk getting flak from anyone for pushing an employee too hard and that is exactly why the employees at Ross do as little as they do, ie the librarians. This is a cultural difference in work ethics, and probably not something that will change for as long as Ross resides on Dominica.
Finally, you are all going to be or are doctors: When the human body consumes food tainted by the 4F's, the results are not pretty. That statement I made about one toilet per estimated occupants in a building should be tripled when all the occupants in the building are running to the bathroom from a shack attack!

first, i'm not putting all the blame on the students. but when there's urine or fecal matter or shoe prints on the toilet seat, who would you say put those there? the housekeepers? the fact of the matter is, people hover, miss, and don't clean up after themselves! and all this is basically because a lot of the students here don't have respect for the school facilities and the cleaning ladies.

second, you're confusing the library staff and the housekeeping staff. BIG DIFFERENCE! we are all familiar with the library staff, and i'd rather not go over my quota of swear words this week, so i'll just leave it at that. ...but the housekeeping staff consists of older ladies, and they work hard. they cover a lot of ground, work long hours, treated like shit by some students, and are paid next to nothing.

[sanjuanico]

Kat,
AMEN! You said it all!

[oc23]

they cover a lot of ground, work long hours, treated like bad noodle by some students, and are paid next to nothing.

hehe....my "s" word was censored. i guess i DID go over my swear-words quota. :lol: that was good. it's past 2am. the laugh woke me up. :D

[BigBrother]

I must agree with my friend oc23. The cleaning ladies do wok very hard to clean up your "crap". I say "your" meaning I don't dump on the floor or pe on the floor. What is sometimes worse is the fact that some students will actually throw unused toilet paper rolls in the toilet wasting paper and making a bigger mess. Ever hear of a 2 flush rule. Can be 3 or more. It is not that hard to figure out how to operate a flusher and calculate how much paper to use, then flush. Then start the process over again. Come on kids we are med students.