Changes in Texas

[Mrs. Meyer]

As most of you may know the state legislature this past session added and changed a few laws in Texas related to applicant's for medical licensure. A few notable changes that will take affect on September 1, 2009 are (a) IMG's will no longer have to submit documentation of eligibility to practice medicine in the country where their medical school was located and (b) if an applicant is board certified by a board that is a member of ABMS or AOA they will not be required to go through the substantially equivalent process. You should all make yourselves familiar with the following bill - HB3674.

[jonasp]

So if a person is board certified in a field he can work in Texas no matter where he went to school.Thats the first law that has come from any state that makes common sense.I'm all for restrictions but what has been going on in many states is blind blacklisting. kudos to Texas for getting it right.

[devildoc8404]

Hey, I might consider living in Texas, after all! Thanks for the information, Mrs. Meyer... that is excellent news.

[Aviv Imanuel]

Excellent news, I wish more states would incorporate this kind of language in their regulations. ;)




As most of you may know the state legislature this past session added and changed a few laws in Texas related to applicant's for medical licensure. A few notable changes that will take affect on September 1, 2009 are (a) IMG's will no longer have to submit documentation of eligibility to practice medicine in the country where their medical school was located and (b) if an applicant is board certified by a board that is a member of ABMS or AOA they will not be required to go through the substantially equivalent process. You should all make yourselves familiar with the following bill - HB3674.

[secondthought]

I wonder if states will be as eager to follow Texas' example as they are to follow Cali's.

[azskeptic]

Texas is still limiting residencies based on their list it would appear.

I wonder if states will be as eager to follow Texas' example as they are to follow Cali's.

[jonasp]

Texas is still limiting residencies based on their list it would appear.

Texas actually was more lenient with regard to residency training licensing; they were tough on full licensing after residency.I know students from non cali approved schools who did residency there.It never made much sense to allow someone to do residency in your state and then ban them from working there but thats how it was. I'm glad thats been cleared up.

[Aviv Imanuel]

True, I myslef know of people who did residency in Texas that were not in their list. I think the new rule is very good indeed.


Texas actually was more lenient with regard to residency training licensing; they were tough on full licensing after residency.I know students from non cali approved schools who did residency there.It never made much sense to allow someone to do residency in your state and then ban them from working there but thats how it was. I'm glad thats been cleared up.

[Graig]

This is great news, now those of us from unapproved schools have hope of practicing in Texas, and this may start a new trend, one more reasonable than the exclusion of adequately educated docs that the FSMB has promoted.
For those who are curious about the new wording, here is the url:

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/81R/billtext/pdf/HB03674F.pdf

[AmeriMEx]

link for HB3674

As most of you may know the state legislature this past session added and changed a few laws in Texas related to applicant's for medical licensure. A few notable changes that will take affect on September 1, 2009 are (a) IMG's will no longer have to submit documentation of eligibility to practice medicine in the country where their medical school was located and (b) if an applicant is board certified by a board that is a member of ABMS or AOA they will not be required to go through the substantially equivalent process. You should all make yourselves familiar with the following bill - HB3674.

[Agraphia]

does anyone know what this means in regards to doing greenbook vs. bluebook 3rd and 4th year clinical rotations? I remember that before this was passed, you must complete all 3rd and 4th year rotations at a greenbook site meaning that the rotation was completed at a hospital that has a residency program of that specific rotation just to be considered for a case by case basis. Just curious if lets say I attend a couple of bluebook core rotations and then get board certified... would I still be able to practice in Tx? Thanks for the replies

[joe soap]

Well...well....Texas trumps Cali once again. Well done Texas, well done indeed. I can see many Docs moving to Texas in the future, maybe even me. I could never understand the logic of how a state board would not approve a Doc if they were board certified by a US board. Great news...lets hope Cali and others take note of the logic applied.

[Aviv Imanuel]

:peace: I share your opinion joe!


Well...well....Texas trumps Cali once again. Well done Texas, well done indeed. I can see many Docs moving to Texas in the future, maybe even me. I could never understand the logic of how a state board would not approve a Doc if they were board certified by a US board. Great news...lets hope Cali and others take note of the logic applied.

[Mrs. Meyer]

The board does not limit access to post graduate training in Texas based on what medical school a resident/fellow attended.

[Seafood]

This is great news.

And I wanted to personally thank Mrs. Meyer for coming onto this board and informing us of the latest information.

Thanks!!

[azulpanther]

Thanks Mrs. Meyer. We need more well informed people just like yourself on this forum.

[MDXRS22]

That's some good news :) Thanks Meyer!

[Aviv Imanuel]

We really appreciate your time and effort to share this information with us. Nothing beats hearing news from the real authorities in the matter! Cheers!


The board does not limit access to post graduate training in Texas based on what medical school a resident/fellow attended.

[g*man]

Agenda Item 17 – Discussion, recommendation, and possible action regarding documentation of medical education performed in the United States by licensure applicants who are international medical graduates. Ms. Garanflo presented information to the Committee regarding a method by which applicants have been allowed to attempt to demonstrate compliance with §155.003(b) of the Tex. Occ. Code by submitting documentation that medical education received in the United States was received side-by-side with, and taught by the same faculty as, medical students enrolled in accredited medical schools in the United States. The Committee directed staff to discontinue use of this method. The Committee further directed that the change should apply to physicians who submit applications for licensure the day after the conclusion of this board meeting.

Not quite sure what this means. Can you please help Ms Meyer?

[egy cardiac surgeon]

i m willing 2 go 2 the states

[ds_in_tx]

Hold on a second; does this also mean that if you want to get a full license in Texas as an IMG that you MUST be board-certified first?

[FRNC]

Hold on a second; does this also mean that if you want to get a full license in Texas as an IMG that you MUST be board-certified first?

If you are an FMG don't waste your time applying for licensure in Texas unless you are already Board Certified in your specialty.

[Mrs. Meyer]

I have been doing this a long time but what the heck is a blue book?

[Mrs. Meyer]

If your medical school is not on the list of school that have been found to be substantially equivalent and if you are not board certified you must go through the substantially equivalent process. No one can tell you if you will be licensed or will not be licensed until the process is completed.

[Mrs. Meyer]

It means that for awhile if you performed clinical rotations that were not green book but you could prove that there were US medical students in the clerkship working side by side with you then we could consider your rotations -that is no more.

[jjmalu]

I have been doing this a long time but what the heck is a blue book?

Blue book is a DO accredited program or rotation.

If we do complete all of our rotations at greenbook sites and our school is on the substantially equivalent list then we are still eligible for licensure without board certification, correct?

We really do appreciate your responses to all of our questions on this forum.

[Tipton]

ACGME publishes their accredited programs in a big, green book. AOA publishes their programs in a big, blue book.

Much has been made here in ValueMD about how Texas apparently values "green booK" rotations above all other types of Clinical experiece. If possible Mrs. Meyer, I would appreciate some clarification of how Texas State Medical Board evaluates various types of Clinical experience in an IMG's educational background: visiting student at an US Medical School (LCME accredited), ACGME accredited, AOA accredited...and all other environments. I appreciate the fact that now Board Certification trumps these considerations for licensure purposes. But I think some current students of off-shore schools may be unncessarily delaying their Clinical education in an attempt to only get "green" rotations in order to meet Texas' requirements for Residency and subsequent Licensure.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[premedjules]

Is there an official list of caribbean medical schools that are substantially equivalent to US med schools? If so, where can I find this list?

Does the status of a school of this list change often?

More specifically, does anyone know if Ross University is considered a "substantially equivalent" medical school as of now?

Thank you!

[Tipton]

Is there an official list of caribbean medical schools that are substantially equivalent to US med schools? If so, where can I find this list?

Does the status of a school of this list change often?

More specifically, does anyone know if Ross University is considered a "substantially equivalent" medical school as of now?

Thank you!

Here you go:Physician Licensure Eligibility Requirements and Documentation - Education (http://www.tmb.state.tx.us/professionals/physicians/applicants/education.php)

Click on any of the "Substantial Equivalence" links.

[FRNC]

Is there an official list of caribbean medical schools that are substantially equivalent to US med schools? If so, where can I find this list?

Does the status of a school of this list change often?

More specifically, does anyone know if Ross University is considered a "substantially equivalent" medical school as of now?

Thank you!



Ross is OFF their list as of Sept 1, 2009. Care to respond Mrs. Meyer?

[Tipton]

Ross is still on the list: click on the link and scroll down to Dominica.

[linc]

Ross is OFF their list as of Sept 1, 2009. Care to respond Mrs. Meyer?

Where are you getting this info from? :nono: Ross is still on the list. :D