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caribdocky
08-21-2009, 12:30 PM
I dont want to beat a dead horse but just for the information.

Source: Amigoe Newspaper Amigoe.com - Amigoe English: Penalty for university of 50,000 guilders per student (http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_61314.php)

Penalty for university of 50,000 guilders per student
20 Aug, 2009, 09:24 (GMT -04:00)

WILLEMSTAD — Non-compliance with the students’ demands by the St. Martinus University (SMU) will cost the institute dearly. The judge attached a penalty of 10,000 guilders per day up to a maximum of 50,000 guilders per student upon non-compliance of the verdict.

The institute, which was also ordered to pay the legal costs of 7200 guilders for the students, has until tomorrow to provide the students with their results and marks. They should receive their transcript on Monday at the latest in order to register elsewhere. The students, who had obtained their bachelor’s degree, should also receive these official papers on Monday at the latest.

This was stated in the detailed verdict, which judge Joost Veerman executed this morning. After the proceedings on Tuesday, he had already announced to ‘flutter the dovecots’ regarding the students’ demands against the university at the Brionplein.

The SMU may hopefully count on the benevolent cooperation if it pays the staff and teachers their outstanding salaries on time. The court holds the SMU entirely responsible for this. “The students have a right to their documents and the argumentation of the teachers is not their concern. The university is responsible if the teachers do not wish to cooperate.”

The students had instituted proceedings as their time is running out. Many medical universities in the Caribbean region are starting with the next semester at the beginning of September. Officially, the verdict applies to the twelve students who went to court. Eleven others had also approached the lawyer, but had not instituted a proceeding, as each student had to pay 450 guilders on court fees. In this respect, the judge gave them the tip that an institute could be established specifically for such matters.
The students and their lawyer expect SMU to fulfill its obligations for the benefit of all (approx. fifty in total) duped students.

ghost_rider
08-21-2009, 01:00 PM
you need to change the title of this post... SMU and DEAD is the last thing students from St. MATTHEWS UNI. want to see at this time...

Tipton
08-21-2009, 01:21 PM
Or you could look at the name of the Forum which hosts this thread...

ghost_rider
08-21-2009, 02:10 PM
Or you could look at the name of the Forum which hosts this thread...

Or you could post SMMS because it's St. Martinus Medical School... :twisted:

rather than SMU which is St. Matthews University School of Medicine and not St. Matthews Medical School :roll:


PS: i saw the thread on the main page which is why it caught my eye... i didnt go into St.Martinus forum looking for someone to say something about SMU... ;)

Tipton
08-21-2009, 02:16 PM
Oooookay. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean the whole world isn't out to get you.:cool:

ghost_rider
08-21-2009, 02:58 PM
a couple of detailed questions... will call on monday...

Tipton
08-21-2009, 03:01 PM
Give me a call Monday. Too detailed to try and address here.

866-562-7708

UHSADOC
08-24-2009, 10:42 PM
Re: St. Martinus U Status ??

Is this school closing ?? or is it closed ? how many students currently enrolled ? so far how many MDs in residency or licensed ??

Thanks,

Cheers :)

Aviv Imanuel
08-25-2009, 01:46 PM
Already closed.


Re: St. Martinus U Status ??

Is this school closing ?? or is it closed ? how many students currently enrolled ? so far how many MDs in residency or licensed ??

Thanks,

Cheers :)

JohnI
08-25-2009, 04:40 PM
Already closed.


Really??!! Did you personally sign the papers?

UHSADOC
08-25-2009, 07:02 PM
what will happen to all the students that didn't graduate ??
or worse the one that did, and don't have an academic transcripts to show for ???
How to enter ECFMG ?? residency ??
really scary !!!

Tipton
08-25-2009, 07:24 PM
Scary indeed. It will probably be a couple of months before they records wind up in receivership. Some gov't attorney will be assigned to be custodian of the transcripts. As for Residency match and application for licensure...? Yikes.

UHSADOC
08-25-2009, 11:02 PM
What will happen to St Martinus forums on ValueMD ?
will they all close like St. Luke or St. Christopher ?? Delete the whole forum....I think it would be best to delete, or post something like in the CMU forum that the school is closed, to prevent online applications.....as in the school's website, you can still download and submit applications.....no statements with regards to "closing the school"

This is why Hx & Reputation are key.....I think at the end of the day, only the top 10 CARICOM Medical schools will florish and survive......

My Prediction, for the top 10.... not in order: SABA, SGU, Ross, AUC, AUA, SMU, Spartan U, Windsor U, St. James, St. Eustacious, and hopefully UHSA :)

Cheers :)

Prospero
08-30-2009, 09:47 AM
The school is closed and physically locked, although the foundation that funded it and the business are probably still in existence. It is reported on the IMED site as closed by published report, so although it is listed on IMED, it is not listed as an operating school.

https://imed.faimer.org/details.asp?country=665&school=st.+martinus&currpage=1&cname=NETHERLANDS+ANTILLES&city=&region=&rname=&mcode=665040&psize=25

The school attempted to recruit two new professors within one month of its closure. This I have by report directly from the two. In addition the following link is still active for applications:

Login to the applynet application module (http://apply.martinus.edu/login.php?mod=1)

Their website still has an opening date of September 7 for this term. And amazingly (or maybe not) they are still advertising a nursing program, something that was advertised in 2004 but that has never existed at the school. Thus they are still advertising and claiming that they will open at some future date. Since the school owes restitution and fines to the students, back salaries to faculty and staff and back taxes to the island restoration of a functioning school would require a large capital input.

King Gear
09-07-2009, 09:43 PM
I wonder what happened to Hawkeye who defended St Martinus to the end in the face of truthful statements made by his nemesis, whose pronouncements and predictions have now been most certainly vindicated and proven to ne indeed the very truth. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Hends
09-12-2009, 12:06 PM
It's a sad story (drama) to all the students.....
Now that this happend, i'm sure they are in a real University. Good luck with your study guys.