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2ndyear
05-24-2004, 03:13 PM
I wish we can get a Ross school official to participate on this forum again. The SGU forum has two MDs answering questions to prospects and students alike while we have none. We all can thank MitchDC for getting the very helpful Dean Wagner on here in the past but it will be nice for RUSM to have someone alse on here again. Having a school official resolving admission or financial issues on this forum will boost Ross reputation, resolve many allegations against the University, and show that they actually give a darn. It will also boost enrollment, increase our image as a medical school, and the bean counters at DeVry will be even happier with the extra dollars rolling toward their way. Maybe someday the power at Ross will wise up and make this happen......

Dru
05-24-2004, 03:35 PM
I personally requested that several months ago, but I have gotten no reaponse.

rph2md
05-24-2004, 09:56 PM
chaos and anarchy rule on this forum. :lol:

MitchDC
05-25-2004, 06:33 AM
You guys are right and this was the perfect time for this suggestion. Just last week I spoke with a member of the Ross Admin and as soon as this person is back from a business trip, we will introduce him as a school official here on the forum. This person also mentioned that he hopes to encourage other "officials" to be the official voice as well. However, as of yet, we still won't have an "on-island" voice. Any suggestions for that person?

MitchDC

I wish we can get a Ross school official to participate on this forum again. The SGU forum has two MDs answering questions to prospects and students alike while we have none. We all can thank MitchDC for getting the very helpful Dean Wagner on here in the past but it will be nice for RUSM to have someone alse on here again. Having a school official resolving admission or financial issues on this forum will boost Ross reputation, resolve many allegations against the University, and show that they actually give a darn. It will also boost enrollment, increase our image as a medical school, and the bean counters at DeVry will be even happier with the extra dollars rolling toward their way. Maybe someday the power at Ross will wise up and make this happen......

MitchDC
05-25-2004, 06:34 AM
You guys are right and this was the perfect time for this suggestion. Just last week I spoke with a member of the Ross Admin and as soon as this person is back from a business trip, we will introduce him as a school official here on the forum. This person also mentioned that he hopes to encourage other "officials" to be the official voice as well. However, as of yet, we still won't have an "on-island" voice. Any suggestions for that person?

MitchDC

I wish we can get a Ross school official to participate on this forum again. The SGU forum has two MDs answering questions to prospects and students alike while we have none. We all can thank MitchDC for getting the very helpful Dean Wagner on here in the past but it will be nice for RUSM to have someone alse on here again. Having a school official resolving admission or financial issues on this forum will boost Ross reputation, resolve many allegations against the University, and show that they actually give a darn. It will also boost enrollment, increase our image as a medical school, and the bean counters at DeVry will be even happier with the extra dollars rolling toward their way. Maybe someday the power at Ross will wise up and make this happen......

Junito
05-25-2004, 08:44 AM
Maybe we can ask Dr. Sharma. He seems like a nice guy. Maybe I'll ask him. Tell me what you think.

Juni

2ndyear
05-25-2004, 09:24 AM
Juni, Dr. Sharma would make an excellent choice but he will likely turn your offer down as long as he is teaching classes. Imagine all the first and third semester students coming on this forum to challenge his mini questions. What about Dr. Houghton? I think Dr. Tweedale or Coutino would be ideal but they both teach classes.

Ross
05-25-2004, 11:43 AM
It was nice to see that what I did was valued by some!

I would offer two suggestions to MitchDC regarding the choiceof a school administrator. First of all, I think there should be only ONE official voice for the school. If more than one administrator are speaking to an issue, you may get multiple answers and that would only confuse things.

Secondly, I would suggest that that official be located on the Dominica ccampus, not in the US. I could NEVER have given the knowledgable answerts that I did had I not been living on island. Even today, after only five months, my answers would be out of date. Island businesses come and go; local government changes; campus policies change daily. If I didn't know the answer to something, I just ran cross-campus to Dr. Rios' office and asked my question. If I didn't like the answer, we debated it right then and there. That could not be done by an administratr living in the US.

Good luck in getting someone to replace me. I really do think this is a valuable service to the students...both those who are contemplating coming to Ross and those who are already there!

Ross
05-25-2004, 11:50 AM
I just noticed that the tagline under my name implies that I am still with Ross University Administration. Of course I am not so my opinions are now personal rather than official. The tagline should read "Former Associate Dean......" Sorry if that confused anyone.

stephew
05-25-2004, 12:21 PM
I just noticed that the tagline under my name implies that I am still with Ross University Administration. Of course I am not so my opinions are now personal rather than official. The tagline should read "Former Associate Dean......" Sorry if that confused anyone.

you can change your sig on your profile page.
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bevo
05-25-2004, 12:55 PM
would be nice to have someone from both the mainland and dominica.

Seeing how I keep hearing about the troubles of NJ and clinical oriented questions.

Ross
05-25-2004, 01:55 PM
This was a quandry for me. You're right. I can change both my tagline and avatar. The problem is that if I change them, it changes them on ALL postings that I have ever made, not just the new ones. This would make all my "official" postings look unofficial and might lead to confusion. After discussing this with Mitch back in December, we decided that it was better to leave them as they were since I seldom come on here to post anymore. As I mentioned, my information would now be out of date and I have no power to change anything at Ross.

Thanks for the suggestion, though. Keep up the good work of advising all those who need it on this forum!

medic105
05-25-2004, 02:51 PM
dr. wagner,

What are you up to these days??

2ndyear
05-25-2004, 03:34 PM
It is good to hear from you again, Dean Wagner. I hope you and your family are well. Best wishes.

MitchDC
05-25-2004, 06:33 PM
Great to hear from you! You were appreciated by many and are missed here on the forum and on campus. High admin have even told me that you did a wonderful job here.

I agree with you Former Dean Wagner (you're still Dean Wagner to me
) that the best resource for student issues would be addressed by an on campus individual. The individual who will be coming to the forum will not replace you by any means. However, he will be able to address some admissions and financial aid info from the New Jersey perspective.

It would be great if Dean Houghton could do it, but who knows. Maybe somebody on the island could ask her?

MitchDC

This was a quandry for me. You're right. I can change both my tagline and avatar. The problem is that if I change them, it changes them on ALL postings that I have ever made, not just the new ones. This would make all my "official" postings look unofficial and might lead to confusion. After discussing this with Mitch back in December, we decided that it was better to leave them as they were since I seldom come on here to post anymore. As I mentioned, my information would now be out of date and I have no power to change anything at Ross.

Thanks for the suggestion, though. Keep up the good work of advising all those who need it on this forum!

oc23
05-25-2004, 06:41 PM
IDEALLY, dr. houghton would be great to have in this forum. but i think she might be too busy for this. it would be great if she could do it though.

dr. sharma, as nice a guy as he is, i think won't work. even if, say, he weren't busy, i just don't see him as being able to address admin questions.

not dr. tweddale either.

i don't think professors could answer admin questions, especially by prospective students/applicants. you could, of course, have one admin and one professor--that would be good.

i honestly can't think of anyone except dr. houghton.

hmmm....maybe dr. boaz? he's a professor, but he seems like he would know admin. :roll:

oc23
05-26-2004, 07:13 AM
dr. bolaski maybe? he could answer admin questions and has relatively more time on his hands than dr. houghton.

oc23
05-27-2004, 06:44 AM
hey mitch, dr. ********* said in his email to our class that he reads valuemd. why don't you ask him to be the ross official here to represent miami? we could have him and one ross official from the island. it would be great to have dr. ********* here!

2ndyear
05-27-2004, 10:43 AM
Oc23, mitchdc said he has already asked someone in the Miami office to represent the school (Dr. Clutter?). Dr. Clutter would be an excellent school official if this turns out to be true. I would be very surprised if Dr. ********* even consider accepting the school position. I hope someone on the island will approach either Dr. Houghton and Bolaski and ask them about joining this forum. I would do it if I am still on the island or in Miami.

oc23
05-27-2004, 05:05 PM
dr. clutter would be great! i've met him. very nice guy!

Ganja Magic
05-27-2004, 07:06 PM
Dr. Clutter is the most organized, committed and friendly individual in the Ross system, from my experience. From what I hear, he's moved up in the heirarchy since last year when the current fourth semesters were admitted. I really hope he can be the voice of Ross on here, a great guy all around and the best person to represent the school.

Calínago
05-30-2004, 12:58 AM
Not everyone is sad that ***** is gone. He was an ***** for the school and removing him was a good decision. As I mentioned before, many would agree he was *****, *****, *****, and *****. The people who support him have either not seen the other side of his personality, or have only known him through his postings on this forum. Believe me, he is a lot different in real life!

Sharma also seems like a nice guy but the Dominican locals will tell you a different story...

Calínago M.D.



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BlueLabel
05-30-2004, 01:19 AM
Nevermind

Junito
05-30-2004, 11:55 AM
It amazes me how immature people can be on this forum. Not only is it morally wrong to see people insult a particular group or person, I find the practice repulsive. Get your act together. You are not going to get along with everyone. Remember Freud said "To be civilized is to be frustrated". You are going to be a doctor, start acting like a professional starting now!

Juni

Calínago
05-31-2004, 10:11 AM
If you really knew what was morally wrong, then you would never quote from Freud, the one who rationalized incest, pedophilia, and rape. There is a difference between being critical of someone (based on a concensus of opinions) and slandering him or her (which is baseless).

My comments about Wagner could be taken by some as insults, but my intention was to warn against him to those who may potentially be in contact with him. There are many, many people outside of this microcosm who could attest to what I was saying. If the moderator decides not to re-censor this (as he did earlier, because he probably thought it violated ValueMD guidelines), I have some more specific information about Wagner that I posted before:

http://www.valuemd.com/viewtopic.php?p=47794&highlight=#47794

And the truth is that although Wagner may be gone, he is still present here on this forum, so the need to warn against him still exists. And his logo still portrays him as a RUSM official. He makes the excuse that if he removes this logo now all his posts from before will have it removed, so he continues to keep the logo. He could easily register for another ValueMD account and post his ramblings using the new account, and not have a Ross logo, and there is nothing in the ValueMD guidelines prohibiting this. Now if RUSM does get an official voice for this forum, then we will have two accounts with the Ross logo/School Official signature. Maybe RUSM needs to hear of Wagner's deceit and those who condone it (i.e., MitchDC)!

I am waiting for the stars, oh dictator (I mean moderator).

oc23
05-31-2004, 10:48 AM
...And the truth is that although Wagner may be gone, he is still present here on this forum, so the need to warn against him still exists. And his logo still portrays him as a RUSM official. He makes the excuse that if he removes this logo now all his posts from before will have it removed, so he continues to keep the logo. He could easily register for another ValueMD account and post his ramblings using the new account, and not have a Ross logo, and there is nothing in the ValueMD guidelines prohibiting this. ....

EXACTLY!

Junito
05-31-2004, 01:32 PM
Cal?ago,
What I am trying to say is that this forum should continue to be a venue of truthful information, not a slanderous rumor mill. You may have a strong opinion about someone, and that is okay, but express it in a professional manner. Some people come to this forum, and this maybe one of the ways they can get an idea of how their future classmates may be like.

When you are going to say something about someone, then support it with facts that can be substantiated. Stating that some Dominicans may feel that Dr. Sharma is not a nice person is pathetic, or better yet outright slander. It not necessary. Many Dominicans might say that Ross students are a bunch of disgusting low lives. Just because they say so doesn't make it so.

I do agree with your second post though:

And the truth is that although Wagner may be gone, he is still present here on this forum, so the need to warn against him still exists. And his logo still portrays him as a RUSM official. He makes the excuse that if he removes this logo now all his posts from before will have it removed, so he continues to keep the logo. He could easily register for another ValueMD account and post his ramblings using the new account, and not have a Ross logo, and there is nothing in the ValueMD guidelines prohibiting this. Now if RUSM does get an official voice for this forum, then we will have two accounts with the Ross logo/School Official signature.

MitchDC
05-31-2004, 06:06 PM
Calinago, I feel it important to not that I did not edit your comments. While it does say that they were edited by the moderator, they were actually edited by the Administrator of this site - Doc. If you have any issues with his action you are more than welcome to take it up with him. I did not see your post before it was made, but from the look of it, it did need to be edited anyways.

MitchDC

fj1217
06-01-2004, 10:48 AM
Not everyone is sad that ***** is gone. He was an ***** for the school and removing him was a good decision. As I mentioned before, many would agree he was *****, *****, *****, and *****. The people who support him have either not seen the other side of his personality, or have only known him through his postings on this forum. Believe me, he is a lot different in real life!

Sharma also seems like a nice guy but the Dominican locals will tell you a different story...

Calínago M.D.

Communication is often difficult whle language and emotion further diminish the efficacy.

Language is like a cracked kettle on which we tap crude rythms for bears to dance while we only long to make the music to melt the stars.

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Calínago
06-01-2004, 10:44 PM
MitchDC, I have no hard feelings for you man. Best wishes in Miami.

But I will point out that people are acting like I cussed someone out! I used the words unprofessional, prejudiced, and rude I believe, and apparently this was too much. I guess it's worse compared to Wagner yelling at me and calling me a loser in front of people.

Ross
06-04-2004, 12:57 PM
But someone asked what I was up to these days and I wanted to gvie them an answer. I have had fun returning to the United States and enjioyig all it has to offer. While I liked the Caribbean, I do like the amenities of an industrialized nation!

Three years ago, I bought a condo in Houston and have been slowly remodeling it. I hadcontractors doing the work but had reached a point where they could not continue unless I was here to supervise so we have been taking care of that.

Of course, I have also been playing grandpa. In fact that is why I didn't answer ValueMD sooner. My grand daughter lives two blocks away from me and comes to play several days a week. She loves to play in the pool! This past weekend, her parents left for a four day trip near Austin so she stayed with us.

This weekend, my parents turn 80 so Mary Ann and I, Peyton, my daughter and her husband are all going to Iowa to spend the week with them. There will be a major family reunion and party to celebrate them becoming the "old old".

In between all of this, I am still teaching....but not physicians. I am teaching psych courses to nurses now. The material is he same although they don't go into it in as much depth. It is fun to be doing something I like and now I can make sure that the nurses you get when you go into practice are as well trianed as you were!At least in medical psychology! There are a couple of other irons in the fire and I will let you know when those bear fruit!

Again thanks for the compliments. It always makes me feel good to know that I have helped. Please feel free to keep me informed what YOU are doing. I like know how yor studies are goingand what knew milestones you are passing!

2ndyear
06-04-2004, 07:06 PM
Caliano, I'm sorry this happened to you at RUSM. Man, I am glad you proved Dean Wagner wrong. Even so, I think this matter should be water under the bridge by now. I guess the good Dean made a mistake, everyone makes them! Just because he makes one or two mistakes and hurt your feelings do not make him a bad person.

Dean Wagner, I am glad to hear you and your family are doing well. Overall, I believe we all benefited from your work at RUSM. To this day, I still have not forgotten the ethanol metabolic pathway described by the good Dean when someone asked him about it in 3rd semester. Have a good weekend and please continue to visit us.