Starting Clinicals In New York

[clinical rotator]

Hey Guys!!

I just found out I passed my step 1 exam recently and wanted to know if any of you are starting rotations in new york march 30th?

[ici]

Congratulations, clinical rotator for passing the Step I.

Good luck with your rotations. When do students usually take Step II? In other words, when do they become eligible to take Step II.

It is my understanding that Step II is a little easier than Step I. Let me know if that appears to be the general belief.

Ici

[KahalsC]

What is it like over there? I mean do 1 get a posting with a hosp?

[vasman132]

you can take step 2 whenever but most people take it between july and september so that they can have their scores in for the match process. some people just take it whenever they have some free time or an easy rotation.

step 2 is easier, but this is only if you remember EVERYTHING from step 1. this isn't a whole slew of new information. this is the next question to what you learned before. so if you remember everything and can recognize, then it is a ton easier. if you can't, you're starting from scratch and it becomes twice as hard as step 1. that's just my opinion.

i wish i could help you out with the new york rotations, but i know nothing about them except that we are at st. john's episcopal and that the rotation is extremely tough.

[ddliang]

you can take step 2 whenever but most people take it between july and september so that they can have their scores in for the match process. some people just take it whenever they have some free time or an easy rotation.

step 2 is easier, but this is only if you remember EVERYTHING from step 1. this isn't a whole slew of new information. this is the next question to what you learned before. so if you remember everything and can recognize, then it is a ton easier. if you can't, you're starting from scratch and it becomes twice as hard as step 1. that's just my opinion.

i wish i could help you out with the new york rotations, but i know nothing about them except that we are at st. john's episcopal and that the rotation is extremely tough.

UTTER NONSENSE. step 2 is a lot more hands on and there are BRAND NEW things you need to know in most disciplines......except for psychiatry...........

pretty much all of ob/gyn and surgery are brand new, and have no connection with step1. peds and IM are loosely based on what you need to know from step1........it's more management and what's the next step that you need to be thinking..............

you need to know the BASICS from step1........not 'everything' like the previous poster posted..................take it from somebody who has passed step2 with flying colors and didn't do so hot on step1..........step2 is a lot of new stuff but it's easier to learn/digest because it's less crude memorization and more clinical...........but yea i agree it's easier than step1..........

[vasman132]

listen to what you yourself wrote. step 2 is less crude memorization. why do you think that is? because we learned how to recognize in step 1. with step 2, it is more clinical, which means you have to have learned how to recognize before you can manage. which you yourself only confirmed. and what do you mean "more hands on"? that doesn't even make sense.

nobody is disagreeing, step 2 is easier. of course i exaggerated with saying you need to remember "everything" with step 1, but you need to be able to recall a lot of it to make preparation for step 2 easier. everything that you did learn with step 1 is fair game.

no one said there wasn't new things on the test. there are new "subjects", but a lot of the things are just one step past what we learned in embryo or path or in our clin med classes. surgery isn't how you diagnose a problem, though it can, but as a whole, it's usually the next step in treatment after a diagnosis is made or suggested, which is what we learned with step 1.

how is what i wrote utterly nonsense when all you did is confirm more than half of it.

[ddliang]

listen to what you yourself wrote. step 2 is less crude memorization. why do you think that is? because we learned how to recognize in step 1. with step 2, it is more clinical, which means you have to have learned how to recognize before you can manage. which you yourself only confirmed. and what do you mean "more hands on"? that doesn't even make sense.

nobody is disagreeing, step 2 is easier. of course i exaggerated with saying you need to remember "everything" with step 1, but you need to be able to recall a lot of it to make preparation for step 2 easier. everything that you did learn with step 1 is fair game.

no one said there wasn't new things on the test. there are new "subjects", but a lot of the things are just one step past what we learned in embryo or path or in our clin med classes. surgery isn't how you diagnose a problem, though it can, but as a whole, it's usually the next step in treatment after a diagnosis is made or suggested, which is what we learned with step 1.

how is what i wrote utterly nonsense when all you did is confirm more than half of it.


listen buddy, i scored less than an 80 on step 1........i scored above 95 on step2. i didn't know squat about step 1 other than basic micro, basic pharm, and basic path/physio............

that's all you need. 1 quick read of first aid step1 is sufficient step1 stuff. then just use kaplan/uw/secrets/firstaid ck for step2 and you're good to go

[vasman132]

basics basics basics, that's my point. you need to know the basics, which is what step 1 emphasizes (or supposed to).

you're still not making any sense. "i didn't know squat about step 1 other than..." and then you rattle off the 4 biggest subjects off of the test which account for, at least, 50% of step 1. and then you even state you reread step 1 material. even i didn't do that, i'm not even recommending that anyone does that, and all it does is support my assessment.

don't push off a statement because you disagree with the wording of one point and then call it "utterly nonsense" when all you do is reinforce the same point in a different way.

[yashar1981]

Congratulations, clinical rotator for passing the Step I.

Good luck with your rotations. When do students usually take Step II? In other words, when do they become eligible to take Step II.

It is my understanding that Step II is a little easier than Step I. Let me know if that appears to be the general belief.

Ici

Step 2 does tend to be easier than step 1, but then again, its all relative. It honestly depends on what u wanna get and what ur aiming for. Also it is highly recommended that you get a higher mark on ur step 2 than ur step 1, as improvement is something that always catches the eye. My point is that though step 2 is somehow easier than step 1, you want to get a higher mark for step 2, meaning that u kinda work either the same or even harder than what u did for step 1. I think one advantage of Step 2 is that by the time u take it, u r not memorizing a bunch of facts from the book and that some of the things that u r readin is the things that u ve seen in rotations, making things alot easier to learn. That plus that fact that at least 40-50 % of stuff is from what u ve learned for step 1 makes things alot easier.
Either way, good luck and study hard.