Clinical Rotations And Sint Eustatius

[emailneeraj]

I transferred from McGill Faculty of Medicine after spending 3 years there to Sint Eustatius.
Having seen how 'real' roations are supposed to work I am completely unsatisfied with roations so far at Brentwood Hospital in Psychiatry and LSU in Lafayette for Interanl and Family and Peds.

[vasman132]

so? you are apparently drunk or don't even go to SESOM. you transferred out of mcgill, arguably the BEST school in canada to go to SESOM? and after 3 years your transferred? anything wrong with this picture?

i mean, i love SESOM, but you must be out of your mind if you just "transferred". i'm guessing you failed out or got kicked out, either way, it wasn't by choice that you left mcgill. maybe if you spelled rotations properly, you would still be at mcgill, eh?

and i'm sorry you don't like the rotations. transfer back to mcgill. you want me to massage your ego or tell you it will all be okay? what was the point of the post? i've never heard of anyone being dissatisfied with rotations, so you are a first. maybe you need information spoon fed to you for you to learn. that's not how it works in medicine, you have to be proactive, study on your own time and pace.

i've been to a few interviews, and i've had my share of experiences with students from the US and india and even canada, and i've found that they have everything handed to them on a silver platter. grow up, suck it up, and be independant. i don't know what your point was by posting this here. you want me to call the clinical coordinator there at LSU and tell them to do a better job of teaching? if you don't learn something, learn it on your own or ask questions during your rotations to the preceptor. don't piss and moan about it.

[peterworn]

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[sk8er]

:p VASMAN you are brilliant!!! God Bless you!! All I have to say is AMG's and obnoxious spoiled people who have been spoon fed medicine all their lives think Medicine is just a simple game of prescribing drugs and giving information...You are awesome and Bless you for your great insight.

I myself just transferred from another Caribbean school and wish I had come to SESOM long long time ago.. I hated the previous school and they held rotations on my head and there was no window of requesting it was all about who they favored got the best rotations....I said I am going to a different school and SESOM has been PHENOMENAL!!!!:p

$so? you are apparently drunk or don't even go to SESOM. you transferred out of mcgill, arguably the BEST school in canada to go to SESOM? and after 3 years your transferred? anything wrong with this picture?

i mean, i love SESOM, but you must be out of your mind if you just "transferred". i'm guessing you failed out or got kicked out, either way, it wasn't by choice that you left mcgill. maybe if you spelled rotations properly, you would still be at mcgill, eh?

and i'm sorry you don't like the rotations. transfer back to mcgill. you want me to massage your ego or tell you it will all be okay? what was the point of the post? i've never heard of anyone being dissatisfied with rotations, so you are a first. maybe you need information spoon fed to you for you to learn. that's not how it works in medicine, you have to be proactive, study on your own time and pace.

i've been to a few interviews, and i've had my share of experiences with students from the US and india and even canada, and i've found that they have everything handed to them on a silver platter. grow up, suck it up, and be independant. i don't know what your point was by posting this here. you want me to call the clinical coordinator there at LSU and tell them to do a better job of teaching? if you don't learn something, learn it on your own or ask questions during your rotations to the preceptor. don't piss and moan about it.

[emailneeraj]

Hello Dr. Balu,
Thanks for the reply ....yes I had to leave McGill as they wanted me to repeat another year after I had already repeated a semester of clinicals.
You are right ..I should stop complaining and get with the program.
That is why I am on Value MD .....thanks for your advise

[vasman132]

perhaps my message was too harsh. i'm sorry you had to repeat time there, and i'm sorry you're dissatisfied with your rotations. honestly what did you expect though? i hope that in the future you will be happy with the rotations. i only know one way, the caribbean way, and i was happy with the education i got as it allowed me to do admirably on step 1 and step 2. i can't complain if the education i received has allowed me to become a doctor. of course when compared to something like harvard or any US or canadian program, it will look silly, but this is how it is.

i think we work harder than a lot of US and canadian med students. maybe it's a complex, maybe that's how we are since a lot of people in the caribbean are doing medicine as a second profession or because we goofed around during undergrad or simply because the US schools did not want us. we work very hard and we study very hard and we take nothing for granted. for everything single thing, we have to fight for and prove to the world that we belong. we don't get the respect or the attention that we deserve from doctors, professors, programs, hospitals, or even the general public, but we need to keep on moving forward and we can't stop to complain because the second we do, we lose sight of our goal. that's how i saw your post. i hope this explains a bit. i apologize if you were hurt in any way.

[emailneeraj]

Dr. Balu,
very compassionate and kind of you to be understanding as I was feeling a little down after reading your message and in general.
I know mine is reality I have to deal with ....
Residency program directors are going to wonder why after graduating from Johns Hopkins and going to med school at McGill that I transferred to Eustatius .
I think with some guidance i can make the best of Eustatius also .
I just didn't know what the rotations would be like before transferring and jumped on the first school that sent the acceptance.

[vasman132]

okay. now i feel bad for that first message. honestly at first, i thought you were from another med school just putting down statia, especially since you had never made any posts ever on valuemd, but now i see that you are really a student here. do you plan on going back to canada? are you from baltimore? and how did you end up at mcgill in the first place?

i think you will be okay. i assume you already took step 1 then and are studying for step 2. just do well on the exams and you will be okay. only once have i been asked about transferring schools, i transferred in undergrad from a big school to a smaller one. but if you give them a reasonable explanation, they will drop the question. it won't be held against you.

don't feel down. keep your chin up and be proud, it's still an accomplishment to be where you are and be grateful for it. everyone runs into adversity, but it's how we fight through it that defines us. i obviously don't know you well, but i can say that if you went to hopkins and mcgill, you are obviously a good student, thus i have no doubts that you will be successful. just work hard and be confident. we're here on valuemd to help you out, and i'll do my best as well if you ever need any help with anything.

[emailneeraj]

I got into Johns Hopkins after scoring almost perfectly on SAT's even though didn't have a great high school GPA. I was able to graduate with honors and applied to medical school's all over but got rejected my first time and did an MPH in a year and the applied to McGill with a metter MCAT and a publication and was the best school I was accepted to. I was going to goto Univ. of Texas at Galveston at first but then decided it was worth it to go to a school like McGill. Couldn't survive becasue of depression and mood swings in the clinicals and was told to reapeat the Intro Clinical med part of the curriculum. broke up with my girlfriend and went into a depression that caused me to just pick up and leave. 5 years passed in which I tried various jobs but then got the advise to apply to Caribbean school and took up the offer with Sint Eustius that gave me credit for my work at McGill and allowed me to start clinicals int he US.

[devildoc8404]

Don't give up, keep the faith, and rock the clinical opportunities that are available to you now. You graduated from JHU for undergrad, that isn't going away. You can now graduate from Sint Eustatius, and that is not a bad thing either. The fact that you are finishing what you started is a great thing, and you can make something excellent out of it. I know about life and circumstances getting in the way of medical school, myself... it's tough, but you are making the right steps.

Hang in there, man.

[cbella]

I agree with all that's been said. I'm not in medical school yet, but I know it will be hard and that you will have to continually push yourself through regardless of what's going on in your personal life. Trust me, though I haven't experienced the same thing, I can definitely relate.

I went to a top school for undergrad and will likely be asked how I ended up in the Carib instead of a state-school. But as I see it, we all have our stories and reasons for where we end up in life.

On a brighter note, don't look at your depression as a fault. If anything, it will increase your sense of empathy, something that many doctors seriously lack. so in that regard you will definitely have a heads up. I just hope you're getting help for it because it can be a dangerous, dangerous thing if untreated (I should know :().

Here's wishing you the best! :)

-c.

[lobster]

Don't give up, keep the faith, and rock the clinical opportunities that are available to you now. You graduated from JHU for undergrad, that isn't going away. You can now graduate from Sint Eustatius, and that is not a bad thing either. The fact that you are finishing what you started is a great thing, and you can make something excellent out of it. I know about life and circumstances getting in the way of medical school, myself... it's tough, but you are making the right steps.

Hang in there, man.


devildoc is right. make the best of what you have not what you could've had. get great grades and LOR and you be fine

[joe soap]

Johns Hopkins and McGill, this is the saddest story ive heard man....anyhow best of luck in your future studies and get some support for that depression bro. I was speaking with an older doc the other day and he kept saying how we need to learn de-stress skills in this profession...otherwise you WILL crash emotionally one day.

[vasman132]

i'm not worried about rotations taking it's toll on people, cause quite honestly it's quite easy to make it through because you always have a light at the end of the tunnel telling you it's only x number of weeks that you have to deal with. i'm really worried about residency where it's never ending. that is where you really need stress relieving skills or some sort of outlet to deal with things both hospital and personally related.