Top Caribbean schools besides the big4?

[iamnodoc]

Sorry if this question has been asked before, but I cant seem to find it in the forum. I realize the big4 should be my first option, after all the US schools reject me, but I am wondering what other schools deem some sort of respect from the international community. For example: good professors, residency placement, usmle pass rates, stuff like that.

I know many of you might be giving opinions as opposed to facts but I would like to see what others think. -Thanks

[Tipton]

Compilation from lists I have seen:

SGU, AUC, Ross, Saba

St. Matthews, MUA-Nevis, AUA

Everyone else...schools will hit certain benchmarks along the way which indicate greater and greater levels of respectability (No school should be considered prior to IMED listing):

School gaining Clinical Affiliations in the US (greenbook being high priority), Students passing USMLE Step 1, Step 2, students Matching for residency, graduates completing residency and gaining full licensure, graduates being board certified and moving up in thier specialty. NY and CA approval (NY being easier) are pretty huge for Clinicals since 2/3 or more of all Residency and Clinical spots are in these 2 states. TX, FL, NJ approvals will come along the way.

[iamnodoc]

thanks a lot for the quick response!

[jameslynton]

I would put Trinity on the list with the others - They will have IMED in September once they start and they are taking over a former SGU location on St Vinnie. They have experienced management from US and other schools and have hired very good profs. They are also keeping the class size small limited to 70 students - clinicals will be at Emory system hospitals in Atlanta, Ga.

[Tipton]

Who are Trinity? A breakaway from SGU?

[jameslynton]

They are not a group from SGU - The CEO is from a US firm medical firm - then they have the former admission group from Ross - A few folks from SGU and the old school at St Vinnie that SGU sold them to raise cash for SGU.

As I understand it they have a site visit setup with St of NY and Cali this fall. I personally have verified the IMED listing and paper work with IMED. I have not verified the NY state and Cali visits. They are recruiting heavily in South Universities. I think they have the first class this fall close to full. EM would have to verify that.

[stateofequilibrium]

the ones you should try for first are : SGU, AUC, Saba, and Ross. Look them up on these forums and you'll see why these are the ones you should absolutely go for first.

[AUCMD2006]

They are not a group from SGU - The CEO is from a US firm medical firm - then they have the former admission group from Ross - A few folks from SGU and the old school at St Vinnie that SGU sold them to raise cash for SGU.

As I understand it they have a site visit setup with St of NY and Cali this fall. I personally have verified the IMED listing and paper work with IMED. I have not verified the NY state and Cali visits. They are recruiting heavily in South Universities. I think they have the first class this fall close to full. EM would have to verify that.


the only list trinity or any new school should be on is the last resort after all else had been tried 3 times and you have had a serious look at your application then re applied another 3 times to all the above.

dude plans are great, a building is great, its all a good start and means nothing in terms competitive applicants need to look at. until trinity has its listing, a state approval, and a few graduating classes with residents and the first batch of unrestricted licensed doctors trinity is way way way down at the bottom regardless of investors buidlings etc. so good start, better than many but it needs some track record before going on anyones list

[BrendaB_MD]

There are a number of alternatives not mentioned.

1) DO schools. These schools certainly deserve your consideration. There are certainly advantages to remaining in the US and graduating from a US school.

2) Foreign schools that admit US students. There are a number of foreign schools that admit substantial numbers of US and Canadian students. These include Isreal (Technion, Sackler), Ireland (RCSI, Dublin) and Australia. These are all high quality institutions. The drawback is that they do not teach to the USMLE and you get less US clinical experience than you would from a carib school. On the other hand, many of these schools have a coherent clinical curriculum (as opposed to network of clinical sites) and graduates of these schools are eligible for licensure in all 50 states.

3) Well established carib schools.
MUA and SMU come to mind. Do not consider new schools.

4) More foreign schools. There are a few other foreign schools that are CA approved such as UAG and a couple of English language medical schools in Europe (e.g. Charles, Pozany). UAG has undergone some recent turmoil due to the demise of the 5th pathway. There are probably some reasonable choices in this group but I would be cautious about schools in this group.

[azskeptic]

Good post. I think also one should look at the number of grads they can find from the schools, especially in states they want to practice in. The proof is licensed grads,not internet claims of excellence. There are some schools that are very old that have FEW grads practicing.



There are a number of alternatives not mentioned.

1) DO schools. These schools certainly deserve your consideration. There are certainly advantages to remaining in the US and graduating from a US school.

2) Foreign schools that admit US students. There are a number of foreign schools that admit substantial numbers of US and Canadian students. These include Isreal (Technion, Sackler), Ireland (RCSI, Dublin) and Australia. These are all high quality institutions. The drawback is that they do not teach to the USMLE and you get less US clinical experience than you would from a carib school. On the other hand, many of these schools have a coherent clinical curriculum (as opposed to network of clinical sites) and graduates of these schools are eligible for licensure in all 50 states.

3) Well established carib schools.
MUA and SMU come to mind. Do not consider new schools.

4) More foreign schools. There are a few other foreign schools that are CA approved such as UAG and a couple of English language medical schools in Europe (e.g. Charles, Pozany). UAG has undergone some recent turmoil due to the demise of the 5th pathway. There are probably some reasonable choices in this group but I would be cautious about schools in this group.

[trex]

Although, UMHS is certainly up and coming. It appears to be a great program with the Ross name behind it.