entrance without bachelors

[seandubbers]

How does one fare in this scenario? The site says we only need 90 credit hours. Would this effect anything in the future (rotations, residency placement, etc) How many people get in without a bachelors?

[FOID]

no, it wouldn't affect rotations or residency

[seandubbers]

no, it wouldn't affect rotations or residency


So it wouldnt look bad on a future resume or anything? The thing is my undergrad school keeps "playing around", by increasing the GPA requirements for my desired major. Im planing on graduating in a year, but I mean if they raise the GPA to a min 3.2 and I have a 2.9, I doubt ill get that far. How does one fare in applying w/out a undergrad degree?

[TBL2008]

What major is that? What could you switch to, just to graduate?

What college is that, anyway? Sounds tougher than it need be.

[seandubbers]

What major is that? What could you switch to, just to graduate?

What college is that, anyway? Sounds tougher than it need be.



its at bradley in IL. I could switch to pretty much anything, but I finished 85 hours of this already. I don't want to waste time taking more crap classes while I could be using tht time to work on getting my MD. If I decide on switching, it will take me until 2011 to graduate, insted of 2009 like originally planned. kinda pointless, right?

[CaptainInsaneO]

European doctors don't have 90 credits. Doesn't stop them from getting a US residency.

[apple usr]

i applied to AUC once i got the 90 credits i needed and then retracted my application b/c i thought about joining the air force and letting them pay but they don't pay for caribbean school's. so when i called and cancelled my application, it had already gone to the acceptance committee and i was accepted with out a degree. so all that so say that is is possible. well i am down here now, b/c i decided against the AF and since have graduated, man, i would almost be done if i had started back then. oh well, hope this helps.

[Itempest]

Is it the case that one is accepted without a degree or that they are conditionally accepted pending graduation?

Because when I was accepted, I still had to finish my last semester, so I definitely had more than 90 credits, but my acceptance letter said I was conditionally accepted until I could prove that I had in fact graduated with a degree.

[apple usr]

i was accepted un-conditionally. i still had 2 semester's before i was to graduate. so they do accept w/o a bachelors.

[seandubbers]

i was accepted un-conditionally. i still had 2 semester's before i was to graduate. so they do accept w/o a bachelors.



did you guys apply for a semester in which you would ALREADY have a degree? lol i know the wording sucks. what i mean is did they know you intended on graduating your undergrad instituition with a degree??

A Scenario, for example, I have 95 credits right now, and 3 more semesters till i get a degree. MCAT in Jan. I want to apply for the JAN 2010 semester. When should I send in an app? All my pre-med courses are done, and they said all they needed regarding the MCAT was proof that I was taking it in Jan.

[livingthedream]

Get a ** before coming to medical school I know of zero students here that do not have a ** (or BA). In fact many students with ** degrees fail classes and don't graduate, finish your undergrad and develop your academic skillz (with a z thats right) so that you know how to walk before you can run. Also your gonna be a doctor, not a garbage man, do you really wanna tell people your their doctor, but you didn't finish your undergrad, and don't have a bachelors degree? That would really prove your dedication to academics and thirst for what will become life saving knowledge. I know I would ask for a new doctor, and you can be sure my hypochondriac grandparents would too. Whoever was accepted without a bachelors degree and says it wasn't conditional, is lying I am sure they had a 43 MCAT too.

[livingthedream]

are you kidding me ** as in bachelors of science is censored lol

[kemper6036]

yes.....that is VMD wisdom for you

[apple usr]

well LTD, i am not lying and no i did not have a ridiculously high mcat, just above the average (for when i took it), and a pretty good gpa. as far as applying for the semester after i would get my degree, no i did not do that, i applied for the semester that was coming up and was accepted for that semester (summer of 2007) and i was scheduled to graduate in december of 2007. and the whole ramble about knowing that your DR did not get his bachelor's degree before his terminal degree (m.d.) is nonsense, i do not know of anyone who asks their physician where they went to undergraduate and rarely does anyone ask where they went medical school (usually b/c they have their diploma's hanging on the wall). that is a ridiculous thing to come up with just to hear yourself talk. i do not think trying to expedite your education is in any way a lack of "dedication to academics" if anything i say it is using the academic rules as they are stated. and yes, i would say, without hesitation, that i am your DOCTOR without my bachelor's degree (b/c i would have an M.D. which is THE qualifier not the missing bachelor's).

but now being as i postponed my entrance and subsequently graduated, your nonsense has done no good, b/c you were not the one asking the question, and you have had no constructive input, just wasting everyone's time having to read your comments, and now having to read my rebuttal to it. thanks!:D

[UselessName]

I don't have a ** or a MCAT and will be a MD at 26.

HA.HA.

Intelligence isn't always measured by jumping through all the hoops or by "doing things right." What about the guy who just gets it done? Yes, I knew what I wanted, and got it done. I laugh at people still trying to get into state med schools. People will finish their **, not get in, get their masters, still not get in and get their PhD's. Do you want to practice medicine and serve people? Or prove to everyone you're a genius (blah blah blah)? If you have the talent and dedication at a young age, don't waste time. Go straight for it and start.

You can't discredit that, or you'd be discrediting all the UK MD's.

[TennisMan]

B. S . degree, who needs it anyways? If you know who I am, I was born full of B. S. hence my decision not to finish my undergrad degree before med school

Here are my stats and I got into med school.

No B S or B A - only 94 semester units

MCAT 16 (Took it after high school)

GPA in college 2.10

Sci GPA 2.05

Publications - 2 in major medical journals

First two years of med school - Did not repeat any classes at all. Did very well actually. People in my class who had advanced degrees (masters, double majors, etc) actually failed out.

Bottom line, if you know med school is for you, forget the B S or B A. Just get it over with. Anybody who says you need an undergrad degree for residency is also full of B . S. First off, those IMGs from other countries who have a system where you go to med school after high school never get an undergrad degree. If you think that they get the ** and MD together, you are also wrong. Most European medical education systems give the MBBS or MBBCh degree which is after 5 or 6 years of med school post high school. In my opinion, much more cost effective, not to mention students there don't pay a lot to go to med school. 4 years of undergrad plus 4 years of med school in the US System = 8 years of schooling. Think if you skip undergrad to go to med school early, this means an earlier start to your career, even if it's 1 year earlier, I'd still take it over the extra year of undergrad I needed to finish my B S degree. C'mon 1 more year of ecology, evolution, botany (snore).

People should learn to think outside of the box.

[dsfan]

umm is this a troll or something....

[TennisMan]

umm is this a troll or something....

As I said, think outside of the box

[kemper6036]

which school are you attending, if i may ask

[kcclsu]

Don't under estimate having completed undergrad. My clinical preceptor was speaking with us yesterday about applying to residency and what programs look for. For competitive programs, he said all the applicants look pretty much the same...i.e. Board scores, letters of rec, etc...One of the biggest things that differentiates people on the program's rank list is if they have letters or phone calls on their behalf from higher ups that are known by the program. But he stated that he has seen some programs even look back at what you did before medical school...i.e. work, university attended, degrees earned. He said this gives the committee an idea on the dedication and drive of the applicant. Overall, I would say it wouldn't matter if you plan on doing a non-competitive residency, but they really begin to split hairs in the hard to get programs. Just keep that in mind.

[CaptainInsaneO]

If you are American and don't have an undergrad, it sends up flags. It is odd and will not be helping you in the future.

If you're European then it is normal.