ASUSM versus UMHS?

[BRYEE]

A friend of mine has a difficult task deciding where to go - ASUSM or UMHS. I would like an honest opinion from this forum. I would like objectivity. I know both schools are new.

Thanks

[brob311]

Go to UHMS, it already has the succesful blueprint from Ross Univ, since Dr Ross started it up. He already has the financial backing along with networking needed in accredidation, clinicals, proff's, etc. wheras All Saints seems to have a revolving door with its deans and proffs. It seems that UHMS is having smoother sailing getting started thus far than All Saints

[BRYEE]

brob311,

I appreciate your response. It makes a lot of sense. Dr. Ross has really proven himself and it is well known he's committed to his medical institutions.

Thanks again.

[IAUPREMED]

UMHS by far

[Magen-MD]

Go to UHMS, it already has the succesful blueprint from Ross Univ, since Dr Ross started it up. He already has the financial backing along with networking needed in accredidation, clinicals, proff's, etc. wheras All Saints seems to have a revolving door with its deans and proffs. It seems that UHMS is having smoother sailing getting started thus far than All Saints

If one reads between lines and researches well, a basic skill that every prospective medical student and aspiring MD should have, you will notice the incoherence in most of the writings/postings. One day is it is the problem of "a new school" and the other day it is the problem of "who is behind the school" and so forth and so on. How one compromises the problem of "the new school" to the problem of who is behind it and more, is beyond my understanding. It can only leave 99.9% of all thinkers wondering: 'Is it the notion of self vs the other?' Because, if it is truly about new schools having common problem of "lack of track record" then one should logically direct you to ASUSM as opposed to UMHS, because ASUSM has academically perfomed so far and is still performing. The problem of "lack of track record of UMHS" does not go away by falsely attributing Ross U's success to UMHS. These are two different institutions established in two different times and space. With faculty of different experience and still under construstion at UMHS. While I do support new schools, I do not buy into incoherence of those that try hard with their little brotherhood to misdirect innocent and unsuspecting students, who genuinely are looking for advice. I have supported the establishment of UMHS as a new school to help alleviate shortage of physicians, but If someone asked to help him choose between ASUSM and UMHS I would have put the advantages and disadvantages of both school and let them choose based on that. Not to mention the fact that UMHS is hypothetically potential but lacks the experience of ASUSM and the academic track record as good as that of ASUSM and low tuition to top it up like a cherry on top of ice-cream.

So arguments of false attribution (Ross, therefore UMHS) and appeal to Ross, can only give potential applicants good hope but is NOT VALID!!!

Magen-MD
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Let nothing short circuit you mind.

[mellsworth21]

Isnt UMHS one of the few schools that have loans right now?

[lswiltshire]

Utter rubbish!

If some folk run a poor medical school for 25 years it is a POOR MEDICAL SCHOOL. eg Spartan, UHSA

ASUSM is a poor cheap school It has NO experience or academic track record to speak of. FORGET IT!

Just as AUA has gone far fast because it was started by men with experience and funding, so too is it reasonable for UMHS to do the same.

As for "low tuition to top it up like a cherry on top of ice-cream" just remember CHEAP THING NOT GOOD; GOOD THING NOT CHEAP!

AVOID ASUSM

GO TO A PROPER MEDICAL SCHOOL

[Zooss]

UMHS, definitely UMHS.. asusm shouldn't even be one of your options.. magen md is the only supporter of asum because he is part owner lol. umhs is going to be the next great school of medicine in carribean and asum will be the next closing school of medicine in the carribean...reaearch wisely before you decide.

[BRYEE]

Zooss if what you post is true, why isn't Magen_MD posting as a school official as do some schools, eg UMHS, ROSS. That way people reading this forum would be able to decifer facts from fiction. We are talking about a person's career. Yes, some people look forward to honesty in making a decision about going to a medical school. Persons deciding to attend med school should also do their research before making any decisions they will have to live with for the rest of their lives. But no attempts should be made to mislead anyone into attending a school vs another.

[Zooss]

I agree with that.. what I suggest to you is to go and take a look at both schools and decide... unfortunately not everyone can do that.. so they must take the word of someone who has seen both schools..

[bboybetts]

UMHS is a very good school. i would go there over here any time

[brob311]

If one reads between lines and researches well, a basic skill that every prospective medical student and aspiring MD should have, you will notice the incoherence in most of the writings/postings. One day is it is the problem of "a new school" and the other day it is the problem of "who is behind the school" and so forth and so on. How one compromises the problem of "the new school" to the problem of who is behind it and more, is beyond my understanding. It can only leave 99.9% of all thinkers wondering: 'Is it the notion of self vs the other?' Because, if it is truly about new schools having common problem of "lack of track record" then one should logically direct you to ASUSM as opposed to UMHS, because ASUSM has academically perfomed so far and is still performing. The problem of "lack of track record of UMHS" does not go away by falsely attributing Ross U's success to UMHS. These are two different institutions established in two different times and space. With faculty of different experience and still under construstion at UMHS. While I do support new schools, I do not buy into incoherence of those that try hard with their little brotherhood to misdirect innocent and unsuspecting students, who genuinely are looking for advice. I have supported the establishment of UMHS as a new school to help alleviate shortage of physicians, but If someone asked to help him choose between ASUSM and UMHS I would have put the advantages and disadvantages of both school and let them choose based on that. Not to mention the fact that UMHS is hypothetically potential but lacks the experience of ASUSM and the academic track record as good as that of ASUSM and low tuition to top it up like a cherry on top of ice-cream.

So arguments of false attribution (Ross, therefore UMHS) and appeal to Ross, can only give potential applicants good hope but is NOT VALID!!!

Magen-MD
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Let nothing short circuit you mind.


Magen-MD

You always provide me with a good laugh.

[Magen-MD]

Utter rubbish!

If some folk run a poor medical school for 25 years it is a POOR MEDICAL SCHOOL. eg Spartan, UHSA

ASUSM is a poor cheap school It has NO experience or academic track record to speak of. FORGET IT!

Just as AUA has gone far fast because it was started by men with experience and funding, so too is it reasonable for UMHS to do the same.

As for "low tuition to top it up like a cherry on top of ice-cream" just remember CHEAP THING NOT GOOD; GOOD THING NOT CHEAP!

AVOID ASUSM

GO TO A PROPER MEDICAL SCHOOL

Your style to bind things that are not alike to make your usual age old arguments of "guilty by association" is really utter rubbish, so to use your language. You have attacked UHSA in the past based on their mode of information dissemination by internet in some stages of their MD Program B, so much that you COULD NOT even particularize where you disagreed, for the sake of doing justice to the subject in question. Or at least acknowledge that their MD Program A was ok. NO, you could never even do that, it is not in your kind of doctor nature.
Such arguments I find are loaded with pure incontinence of emotions or emotional puke.
It is misleading and lack maturity, substance but utter senile bitterness.

While I do believe, that UMHS has a bright future, it's bright future is NOT mostly due to funding, it is due to 'faculty' and quality of the student body. As, for some reason, you reasonably hinted that AUA has experienced faculty. Thus: The faculty UMHS is yet to build, and most prospective students know it as much as you do.

University ranking is dependent on not only on funding but also location...and this is not synonymous to academic standards pursued, else everything that is from Dominica or from Jamaica or from Caribbean would mean poor quality—As there used to be a "Canadian show" in which a doctor walked in an examination room and after introducing himself to his patient, the patient collapses to the floor just on the thought of being attended to by a doctor from the Caribbean. Now we know that is not true. However, if you want to make your usual arguments of guilty by association, I would love to know which part of USA or Canada is UWI? You as its graduate should know.

Education at ASUSM is cheap, where cheap means inexpensive (referring to cost of edu.)not referring to quality. And that is good cheap. This is not complex and with NO referrential opacity.


Quality is also demonstrated in the way this school will continue to perform on the USMLE and other standardized examinations from countries where its graduates will be practicing not to mention the fact that it is going to produce real thinkers and not graduates that are out to puke misleading emotions.

Magen-MD
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See no evil, Read no evil, Follow no evil, coz some things never change.

[lswiltshire]

I can not see how any one would attend a school anywhere at which the administration finds as much difficulty as the ASUSOM administration in articulating its position as demonstrated in the post above.

I certainly could not.

My message remains the same....clear and simple

ASUSM is a poor cheap school It has NO experience or academic track record to speak of. FORGET IT!

Just as AUA has gone far fast because it was started by men with experience and funding, so too is it reasonable that UMHS will do the same with its facilities, experienced faculty and good funding.

ASUSM admin admits thats its school is a cheap school. It is cheap in QULITY & COST. The students proclaim that there is also cost cutting and point out that CHEAP THING NOT GOOD; GOOD THING NOT CHEAP!

AVOID ASUSM

GO TO A PROPER MEDICAL SCHOOL

[Poseidon]

Zooss if what you post is true, why isn't Magen_MD posting as a school official as do some schools, eg UMHS, ROSS. That way people reading this forum would be able to decifer facts from fiction. We are talking about a person's career. Yes, some people look forward to honesty in making a decision about going to a medical school. Persons deciding to attend med school should also do their research before making any decisions they will have to live with for the rest of their lives. But no attempts should be made to mislead anyone into attending a school vs another.

Please take notice to other threads on this site....there are a few bitter students posting garbage on the forums putting down ASUSM for ridiculous reasons (most of which aren't even close to the truth) - these students are transferring after this semester and will bash the school any chance they get. They also claim that anyone saying good things about the school are admin or are being paid by admin, which isn't true. Please do not believe everything that is written in this threads, since most of the activity lately has been from this select group of students that the rest of the school would gladly see leave.