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madeofiron
06-28-2008, 09:43 PM
Hey just wanted to let people know that are thinking of living in New York to do the clinical rotation todays article wanted to share with u guys


REVENGE OF THE BAD OLD DAYS IN NEW YORK CITY - New York Post (http://www.nypost.com/seven/06282008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/revenge_of_the_bad_old_days_117615.htm)

Micfly213
06-29-2008, 10:36 AM
As somebody from NY, this article just annoys me because it might actually scare somebody who doesn't know better from going there.

New York is just like any other place in the world..you have to be smart and know not to go into certain parts at certain times or bad things will happen. For those here on the island right now, you wouldn't go walking at night through West Bay and the it's just the same in certain parts of Manhattan...if you're smart, and know how to get around, it's completely safe.

Plus, if you're doing clinicals in NY, you won't have time to worry about getting stabbed.

DrCannoli
06-29-2008, 11:45 AM
I have spent the past 6 years in New York City from Harlem to Columbus Circle and I never had a problem with the people of NY or any kind of violence or theft....like any major city you need to be smart and aware of your surroundings, but to not go to the Capitol of the World for your medical training because you think your going to get stabbed then you are just missing out and making more spots available for the rest of us....on that note stabbings occur all the time

AmericanIMG
06-29-2008, 11:48 AM
why anyone would pay exorbitant fees to live in a city where the weather is garbage for much of the year, the pollution is high and the pub transportation (which most people have to use) is disgusting is something that i can never understand.

DrCannoli
06-29-2008, 11:57 AM
why anyone would pay exorbitant fees to live in a city where the weather is garbage for much of the year, the pollution is high and the pub transportation (which most people have to use) is disgusting is something that i can never understand.

Well I live 20 min outside NYC in NJ and would live home and have no headaches for transportation....it works out for me

JTP73
06-29-2008, 01:32 PM
why anyone would pay exorbitant fees to live in a city where the weather is garbage for much of the year, the pollution is high and the pub transportation (which most people have to use) is disgusting is something that i can never understand.100% agreed. Glad y'all like it. I'll let you have it. New York is the greatest...

azulpanther
06-29-2008, 01:56 PM
why anyone would pay exorbitant fees to live in a city where the weather is garbage for much of the year, the pollution is high and the pub transportation (which most people have to use) is disgusting is something that i can never understand.




hahahahahaha. yep nyc is exactly like that so keep away !!!

MDplzz
06-29-2008, 02:30 PM
Yeah, seriously keep away from there....I'm from NYC and i know people that would love to rob, stab and kill an innocent med student for no apparent reason what so ever!!! :samurai:

smu79
06-29-2008, 03:12 PM
New York is the greatest...
.....wasted, nasty, fillty and smelling city in the country.!

when i was doing IM at wyckoff, the hospital shut down becuase of a gang war outside.....bullets were flying everywhere.

now friends, this does not happens where i am from...you can honestly walk at 2am with no worrries....

butterflymd
06-29-2008, 04:04 PM
Ok let a Brooklynite chime in. Everyone has the option of not doing clinical rotations in New York City. New York City has never and will never be a suburb no matter how hard they try to install 50 million starbucks to entice the yuppies to take over NY. It is what it is and if you can't take the fire stay out the kitchen. I am a born and raised New Yorker, yeah its a filthy, crazy and wild city and that is never going to change. If you are coming in there for anything be on your P's and Q's don't come there thinking that you are on a farm in the midwest somewhere. That should not be the expectation of a city that has millions of people and yes crime does happen in every city especially the bigger ones.
If you are doing rotations at Wycoff, this hospital is not in one of the best neighborhoods in BK. So just make sure that you are using your street sense when walking in or around that neighborhood or taking the trains in that area.
As far as gun shot wounds they happen all the time that is the exciting part of doing rotations in NY that you get to see so many different kinds of medical cases.
Rape happens even in very small suburban towns. The fact that this Columbia student was raped is horrific but as a previous administrator and patient care personnel in the ER most of the 2am rape cases that came into the ER were of young women who were drunk out of their minds after partying all night and then decided to leave the bar alone and were walking home alone when the crime happened. That is not to say it makes it right but in these cases you must also uses common sense and have someone escort you home and or don't leave the bar alone. Use caution in everything that you do. I guess living in NYC all my life has made me sort of paranoid but hey I am still alive today guess it works.

jackets5
06-29-2008, 04:05 PM
im from NYC (long island to be exact) and i really dont like NYC the resturants are great but really i dont see this great attraction. i know people who pay 2300 a month to live in a studio just so they can say they live in mannhattan. Its overrated. the city is dirty and way overcrowded. ATL is a better city than NYC, LA is better so is MIA.

butterflymd
06-29-2008, 04:17 PM
Jacket I second that everyone is so ready to drop 2,000 or more for a matchbox size apt just to say they live in NYC. You see all these women wearing stilletos with oversize bags wanting to live the " Sex in the City" life. That scene gets old fast.

AmericanIMG
06-29-2008, 04:25 PM
mia is a terrible city. lots of trash there. if i can find it, i had an article that showed MIA had the most felons per capita in the country.

LA is great, but San Diego is amazing. Tampa is also pretty awesome.

MDXRS22
06-29-2008, 05:07 PM
Jacket I second that everyone is so ready to drop 2,000 or more for a matchbox size apt just to say they live in NYC. You see all these women wearing stilletos with oversize bags wanting to live the " Sex in the City" life. That scene gets old fast.


Right on the money:)

Believe me, you will get tired of it all quicker than you thought.
I spent quite sometime in NY (BK), Ave D, albermale, Church and Nostrand to 32nd street. I live in Jersey now. I only go to NY to pick up my friends and family members who are attached to NY, or maybe to buy some cheap porn.
Give me a free place to live there, and I will send the key back to you as fast as it comes.

azulpanther
06-29-2008, 05:25 PM
.....wasted, nasty, fillty and smelling city in the country.!

when i was doing IM at wyckoff, the hospital shut down becuase of a gang war outside.....bullets were flying everywhere.

now friends, this does not happens where i am from...you can honestly walk at 2am with no worrries....



on damn and you didnt wear your colors that day. how fortunate we all are. lol

azulpanther
06-29-2008, 05:31 PM
mia is a terrible city. lots of trash there. if i can find it, i had an article that showed MIA had the most felons per capita in the country.

LA is great, but San Diego is amazing. Tampa is also pretty awesome.


so you hate the pollution in nyc but thing LA is great ?!?!?!?!!?!?! you cant even see the moon in LA due to the smog.


Tampa and San Diego are smaller cities so ofcourse it would be cleaner and "nicer" looking

azulpanther
06-29-2008, 05:34 PM
every place on earth has his pros and cons. Every place, from cayman to montana, NYC to london. A person can be happy or be miserable where ever they live. A paradise to me could be a landfill for you.

kryptik
06-29-2008, 05:38 PM
..... or maybe to buy some cheap porn...
you buy porn? its free on the internet:p

AmericanIMG
06-29-2008, 07:50 PM
so you hate the pollution in nyc but thing LA is great ?!?!?!?!!?!?! you cant even see the moon in LA due to the smog.


Tampa and San Diego are smaller cities so ofcourse it would be cleaner and "nicer" looking

do you have any idea how big LA is? not all places have smog. plus u have the positives of LA which WAY outway the positives of NY. the weather alone is amazing, let alone the women, the people, the culture, the diversity, and more.

butterflymd
06-29-2008, 08:03 PM
Sure LA has a whole bunch of chiquette plastiques running around. I like the imperfectness and down to earth tone of NY any day but you won't have to worry about doing clinicals in LA because SMU is not approved there.:p

AmericanIMG
06-29-2008, 08:56 PM
Sure LA has a whole bunch of chiquette plastiques running around. I like the imperfectness and down to earth tone of NY any day but you won't have to worry about doing clinicals in LA because SMU is not approved there.:p

chiquette plastiques? and NY doesnt? HA!
down to earth tone of NY?

have u ever been to either city?

azulpanther
06-29-2008, 09:24 PM
i have family that moved to LA from NYC. They prefer NYC.

smu79
06-29-2008, 09:42 PM
i have family that moved to LA from NYC. They prefer NYC.

what can i say, some people are into masochism;)

please note, this is not a sexual comment...i meant masochism as a willingness or tendency to subject oneself to unpleasant or trying experiences

azulpanther
06-29-2008, 10:36 PM
what can i say, some people are into masochism;)

please note, this is not a sexual comment...i meant masochism as a willingness or tendency to subject oneself to unpleasant or trying experiences




hahaaha. i was about to ask u for your number. hahahahaha

MDXRS22
06-29-2008, 11:35 PM
you buy porn? its free on the internet:p


lol:)

I love to spend 2 bucks and avoid the downloading time.

Kidding. I love freebies :)

butterflymd
06-30-2008, 08:30 AM
American IMG I am from New York City. I am from a proud member of the Borough of BK New York so don't ever question my knowledge of NY. If you look through the post you will see I have stated it several times. Born and raised New Yorker. LA has more chiquette plastiques than NY on any day. Fake boobs and butts galore. NYC just produces more natural beauties. (LOL). I don't want to get anyone upset NY is the better place to be and as Azul said his fam moved from LA to NY and no suprise that they liked NY better. Ok this is the end of this convo for me.

DrCannoli
06-30-2008, 08:33 AM
American IMG I am from New York City. I am from a proud member of the Borough of BK New York so don't ever question my knowledge of NY. If you look through the post you will see I have stated it several times. Born and raised New Yorker. LA has more chiquette plastiques than NY on any day. Fake boobs and butts galore. NYC just produces more natural beauties. (LOL). I don't want to get anyone upset NY is the better place to be and as Azul said his fam moved from LA to NY and no suprise that they liked NY better. Ok this is the end of this convo for me.

And ladies and gentlemen....in simple words that is a New Yorker for you......translation I will cut u

butterflymd
06-30-2008, 08:36 AM
LMAO. Doc C r u starting trouble again. I think we could say the same for Jersey Italians. Don't mess with the Jersey Shore. LOL.

AmericanIMG
06-30-2008, 08:40 AM
American IMG I am from New York City. I am from a proud member of the Borough of BK New York so don't ever question my knowledge of NY. If you look through the post you will see I have stated it several times. Born and raised New Yorker. LA has more chiquette plastiques than NY on any day. Fake boobs and butts galore. NYC just produces more natural beauties. (LOL). I don't want to get anyone upset NY is the better place to be and as Azul said his fam moved from LA to NY and no suprise that they liked NY better. Ok this is the end of this convo for me.

so have u been to LA? probably not.

AmericanIMG
06-30-2008, 08:45 AM
i guess in the end people do what they want to do. its just highly illogical to me to want to live in a city where the weather is bad 5 months of the year, and the living expenses are exorbitant.

butterflymd
06-30-2008, 08:51 AM
A IMG been to LA too. As a matter of fact might be going there this weekend for the 4th just came back from NYC this week. Wanna come I will pay for your ticket and then another one back to NY and we will party in both places and then you tell me which one u like best. Deal. :p

AmericanIMG
06-30-2008, 09:18 AM
A IMG been to LA too. As a matter of fact might be going there this weekend for the 4th just came back from NYC this week. Wanna come I will pay for your ticket and then another one back to NY and we will party in both places and then you tell me which one u like best. Deal. :p

lets do it. PM me for my info.

butterflymd
06-30-2008, 09:20 AM
LMAO ok will do. ;)

M.E the MD
06-30-2008, 05:00 PM
I too was born and raised in New York City. To be honest the new york area has been quite irritating for the past few years. People are so nasty and rude and people here are so trashy. I feel like its a ghetto block party every day in my neighborhood. My mother got choked walking my dog at 9 am in the area we would think is a descent neighborhood. My next door neighbor had his car stolen in front of his house and my car has crow bar dents in the doors from attempted break ins. Yes Manhattan has its fun every now and then but the reality of living here is not that "glamorfied" the way Sex and the City portrays it.

AmericanIMG
06-30-2008, 05:14 PM
I too was born and raised in New York City. To be honest the new york area has been quite irritating for the past few years. People are so nasty and rude and people here are so trashy. I feel like its a ghetto block party every day in my neighborhood. My mother got choked walking my dog at 9 am in the area we would think is a descent neighborhood. My next door neighbor had his car stolen in front of his house and my car has crow bar dents in the doors from attempted break ins. Yes Manhattan has its fun every now and then but the reality of living here is not that "glamorfied" the way Sex and the City portrays it.


just like not all of LA is like Entourage.

azulpanther
06-30-2008, 06:33 PM
just like not all of LA is like Entourage.



oh damn, you just shattered the illusion i had of LA

butterflymd
06-30-2008, 06:39 PM
I agree that people glorifying NY is ridiculous. For those who have lived there all of our lives we know what it is really all about. Despite all the negatives I love NY no doubt about it and I look forward to returning there and giving back to my old community but of course I will still have the nice estate in the suburbs like I do now. There is nothing like getting out of the rat race once in a while.

stephew
06-30-2008, 06:44 PM
nyc is one of the safest large cities in the us at this point. it s a great place to experience. and if you dont like it, well, be glad you didnt get into med school in nyc because then you'd spend 4 years there.

stephew
06-30-2008, 06:46 PM
i should add i moved into nyc in 1977 when it was disgusting. but even so, still safer than most people outside tend to think if you were in manhattan at least.

butterflymd
06-30-2008, 08:05 PM
Stephew you are absolutely right. If you think NYC is bad try Washington DC that had in a matter of 3 months at least 200 murders. In one weekend alone they had 15 last month it is horrible and they say NY is bad. You think NY is bad try taking a walk late at night in Baltimore. (heroine and crack head city) Even I a person that will walk any street in Brooklyn at any time of night was like where in the world am I. Lets not even talk about some areas in Chicago. Ny is definitely not as bad as it gets.

smu79
06-30-2008, 08:40 PM
I tell you what, I felt I was in more danger while rotating at Wyckoff and other places in NY that while I was patrolling the streets in Fallujah Iraq.

stephew
06-30-2008, 10:02 PM
you probably didnt have a big gun in your hand then.

stephew
06-30-2008, 10:03 PM
Stephew you are absolutely right. If you think NYC is bad try Washington DC that had in a matter of 3 months at least 200 murders. In one weekend alone they had 15 last month it is horrible and they say NY is bad. You think NY is bad try taking a walk late at night in Baltimore. (heroine and crack head city) Even I a person that will walk any street in Brooklyn at any time of night was like where in the world am I. Lets not even talk about some areas in Chicago. Ny is definitely not as bad as it gets.

yep. DC is far worse. Whenever i go to the 9.30 club there are syringes on the ground. Manhattan is extremely safe for the most part. Baltimore- vicious. NY is quite nice but suffers from its history. Even then, europeans thought it was far worse than it was. a frequent conversation i had w/them.

AmericanIMG
06-30-2008, 10:17 PM
baltimore is TERRIBLE.

the worst though...Newark. Harold and Kumar had it right.

butterflymd
06-30-2008, 10:26 PM
Downtown Baltimore scared the living jesus out of me and the outskirts was even worse I have never seen that many abandoned houses in my life not even when Harlem or the South Bronx was at its worst did it look like that. Yeap Newark is another crazy little place and so are some parts of Philly with its ever increasing number of homicides I am sure the ERs are jumping over there for sure. With the economic downturn and so many people losing their jobs it has turned into survival of the fittest on the streets of many cities. In DC they have begun to cyphon (SP?) gas out of of SUVS. (How Sad) and guess who gets to deal with the backlash of crime in the hospitals med students, residents and attendings with bags under their eyes large enough to fit groceries. LOL. Thank god for the suburbs where you can get away from the city madness once those rotations are done.

smu79
06-30-2008, 10:27 PM
you probably didnt have a big gun in your hand then.

stay with what you know, medicine. what, you been there too...? c'mon...i was in a combat arms unit, beleive me when i tell you that i felt more safe, even though we had weapons, thatn my stay in BK NY...

i mean, there is problems when some kills there parent because he was mad the Mets lost...(he threw his mother out the window)...

butterflymd
06-30-2008, 10:36 PM
The worst case I ever saw in Brooklyn at Woodhull Hospital which happens to be very close to Wycoff was a Polish guy who had been drinking heavily well it was determined by NYPD that he went to take a little rest in one of those darkly lit parks he was gang raped, came in with severe traumatic injuries to thorax area, few fractured ribs, severe bleeding from the rectal area, spinal injury to due being beaten (fractured vertebrae), and to top it off the blow that hit his face made his eye fall out of the socket and was hanging from a small strand of muscle. Again, I repeat to do not drink and hit the streets alone criminals love to take advantage of drunk persons for some reason. Maybe it is because they know they have a lower chance of being identified by someone whose memory is impaired.
(Ok am I off topic now)

stephew
06-30-2008, 10:39 PM
stay with what you know, medicine. what, you been there too...? c'mon...i was in a combat arms unit, beleive me when i tell you that i felt more safe, even though we had weapons, thatn my stay in BK NY...

i mean, there is problems when some kills there parent because he was mad the Mets lost...(he threw his mother out the window)...

guess im just tougher than you. ive always felt safe in manhattan.
But its true; you can't walk down the street after a ballgame in nyc for all the folks being turfed out windows. but in turn, be fair. In a combat zone, people are probably preoccupied with the gun toting soldiers and are less inclined to get wound up over a yankees/redsox game. Soccer however...

butterflymd
06-30-2008, 10:42 PM
SMU I can't believe that you would even try to compare the safety of Iraq and Brooklyn. Then that means you must not be that street smart if you felt unsafe in Brooklyn. R u serious and you have been to a war and did not feel that you can protect yourself in Brooklyn. Absurd LMAO. I guess people feel more secure when they travel in packs and carry weapons just like gang members in Brooklyn do. Killing others for no reason. Hopefully you will not be doing your residency in NYC because some of the patients are just flat out crazy. I have seen a few docs have flying objects thrown at them especially those with the I think I know it all attitude. ;)

Aleksander
06-30-2008, 10:57 PM
ButteflyMD:
"I'm from the Dominican Republic and I know sometimes it can get pretty bad as long as life won't be a wet tshirt contest everyday I think I can survive. Thanks for the info."


I thought you were a "life-long New Yorker"?!?!?!

By the way, the MIDWEST is not just corn, cows and goody goody gumdrops. If you don't believe me, come to Detroit some time, it's lovely this time of year!

butterflymd
06-30-2008, 11:10 PM
Aleksander both my parents are from the Dominican Republic I am a born and raised New Yorker who has traveled extensively to the Dominican Republic and went to school Catholic school there for a year. I am not sure what you are but hispanics especially Dominicans when asked their culture of origin will say I am Dominican just like a born and raised New York person with Puerto Rican parents will say I am Puerto Rican. Or a New Yorker whose parents are Italian, Sicilian etc will say I am Italian. Do you understand now? Yes Latinos are proud of their heritage. Is there anything else you wanted to know? Born and raised New Yorker Brooklyn to be precise. Do you want me to repeat it again? Specifically raised in Crown Heights and Bay Ridge. Do you need the name of the street too. LMAO.

smu79
06-30-2008, 11:16 PM
SMU I can't believe that you would even try to compare the safety of Iraq and Brooklyn. Then that means you must not be that street smart if you felt unsafe in Brooklyn. R u serious and you have been to a war and did not feel that you can protect yourself in Brooklyn. Absurd LMAO. I guess people feel more secure when they travel in packs and carry weapons just like gang members in Brooklyn do. Killing others for no reason. Hopefully you will not be doing your residency in NYC because some of the patients are just flat out crazy. I have seen a few docs have flying objects thrown at them especially those with the I think I know it all attitude. ;)

LMAO at your comment..you have no idea what being in combat means...i mean give me a break..do you know what kind of weapons we carry? do you know the rules of engagement? 10 to 1..that mean 10 men against 1..us being the 10....yes, i felt safe being in Iraq.

in ny, you have no rules....people will kill you for a freaking dollar.

i am in record that i will not apply for residency in NY, none....not becuase of me, becuase of my family...besides who would want to live in a rat city, people living in top of each other...screw that!

Aleksander
06-30-2008, 11:25 PM
Aleksander both my parents are from the Dominican Republic I am a born and raised New Yorker who has traveled extensively to the Dominican Republic and went to school Catholic school there for a year. I am not sure what you are but hispanics especially Dominicans when asked their culture of origin will say I am Dominican just like a born and raised New York person with Puerto Rican parents will say I am Puerto Rican. Or a New Yorker whose parents are Italian, Sicilian etc will say I am Italian. Do you understand now? Don't ever test me you got that. Yes Latinos are proud of their heritage. Is there anything else you wanted to know? Born and raised New Yorker Brooklyn to be precise. Do you want me to repeat it again? Specifically raised in Crown Heights and Bay Ridge. Do you need the name of the street too. LMAO.

No one is testing you, everyone is proud of their heritage. You said you were from the Dominican Republic. This is a public forum and many people are reading your comments. Don't you think you should act a bit more professionally?

butterflymd
06-30-2008, 11:26 PM
I hear you SMU NYC is not everyones taste and I am definitely not here to sell NYC to anyone who is not going to feel completely safe there. I also agree that NYC is not really a place to raise a family unless of course you live on the Upper East Side not everywhere in NY is rat infested obviously from your rotations at Wycoff you were in a very ghetto area. Not all of Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, Bronx or Staten Island is what the Wycoff area is.
Oh BTW I have 2 cousins that are marines(Semper Fi) Hoorah and all that other non-sense both have been to Iraq in the 90's and now. Thankfully they did more than their share of tours and are still alive today and back in the US. Who knows when they will get deployed again.

butterflymd
06-30-2008, 11:32 PM
Again Alexander you brought the whole Dominican comment to my attention. I don't really go on the forum researching every comment someone has made to try and discredit them in anyway. There is nothing unprofessional about explaining culture to you. If you want to send a PM with further questions on what it means to be a born and raised New Yorker with parents from another country I will be happy to answer them for you and dispell any beliefs you may have. Cool lets move on. Getting back to our regularly scheduled conversation on what life in NY is like. Oh and BTW I currently live in MD working for the NIH/Govt in case you wanted to know more information. So you can refer back to this post later on for reference. :bored:

Aleksander
06-30-2008, 11:37 PM
I was just stating facts from a previous post. I don't have to say anything else about you, I think your personality is shining brighter and brighter with each post!

butterflymd
06-30-2008, 11:50 PM
The way that science works is that nothing is proven you must ask questions. You took one statement and made an assumption and threw in the forum attempting to discredit something that I said. I hope I answered your question marks. My personality is what it is you can take it or leave it. Glad you are leaving it because I have no interest in continuing a conversation with someone who does not understand culture. Like I said if you have any further questions send me a pm. Ciao

AmericanIMG
07-01-2008, 08:00 AM
The way that science works is that nothing is proven you must ask questions. You took one statement and made an assumption and threw in the forum attempting to discredit something that I said. I hope I answered your question marks. My personality is what it is you can take it or leave it. Glad you are leaving it because I have no interest in continuing a conversation with someone who does not understand culture. Like I said if you have any further questions send me a pm. Ciao

OFF TOPIC!

:evil:

azulpanther
07-01-2008, 10:57 AM
what a great, beautiful and proactive city. 1st city in the country to do this.

New York City Drops the Trans Fats - AOL News (http://news.aol.com/health/story/ar/_a/new-york-city-drops-the-trans-fats/20080630131809990002)

AftenMD
07-01-2008, 04:03 PM
I've never been to NYC (but hope to soon!) so I don't have an opinion just yet, but I thought this thread would be the most appropriate spot to put this article:

Ignored Psych Patient Dies on Hospital Floor (in NYC)
ABC News: Ignored Psych Patient Dies on Hospital Floor (http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=5284151&page=1)


Make sure to watch the movie....

smu79
07-01-2008, 04:26 PM
the lady who works accross the street from wyckoff at dunken dounuts told me that docs at wyckoff killed her husband,....they did not see him for 3 days..only in NY!

azulpanther
07-01-2008, 04:33 PM
I've never been to NYC (but hope to soon!) so I don't have an opinion just yet, but I thought this thread would be the most appropriate spot to put this article:

Ignored Psych Patient Dies on Hospital Floor (in NYC)
ABC News: Ignored Psych Patient Dies on Hospital Floor (http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=5284151&page=1)


Make sure to watch the movie....


I saw this on the news. The doctor was fired and the security guard and nurse were suspended

butterflymd
07-01-2008, 06:33 PM
Yeap I believe it Kings County is like that. These are the hospitals that SGU brags about having New York City Health and Hospitals Corporation

butterflymd
07-01-2008, 06:43 PM
Saw the footage it is really sad but nurses in NY sometimes have the worst attitudes I have ever seen in my life. There have been times when someone was coding right on the ER ramp and the nurses and doctors took forever to respond because they were sitting around doing absolutely nothing and guess who took those patients to the morgue. Something that could have been avoided. Or what about the time that a patient aspirated asthmatic who told the nurses he could not breathe right after he ate. They ignored him. He died. (Careleness) I have had to often remind them that nursing is a customer service oriented position and if they don't like caring for patients they should really leave nursing alone. On the other hand they are overwhelmed with a system that is abused and patients who use the ER as a primary care physician. So anyone going into residency in NY be careful how you treat the nurses because they can make your like impossible.
The docs also take on the same attitude and are also overwhelmed with mounting paperwork and influx of nutty patients in the NYC healthcare system. Good luck to all.

butterflymd
07-01-2008, 06:46 PM
SMU I hear what you are saying about the dunkin doughnuts lady I have seen it first hand people waiting in the ER 3 days for a bed to clear in the medicine or cardiac unit because the census of the hospital is at capacity and they can't move anyone and unless medically warranted a transfer to a higher level of care hospital does not get signed of by an administrator or attending. Really sad but that is the reality. It is important for physicians going into primary care to emphasize preventive and maintenance of health because sometimes once you go into the hospital system you just don't come out.

azulpanther
07-30-2008, 04:52 PM
no earthquakes in NYC. Thank goodness it was a small one in SOCAL.

UFTim
07-30-2008, 05:11 PM
no earthquakes in NYC. Thank goodness it was a small one in SOCAL.

I think I'd rather die in an earthquake than die neglected on a hospital floor

azulpanther
07-30-2008, 05:27 PM
lets not talk about dying. Let talk about living.

I'll rather live through an earthquake rather than live through being ignored on a hospital floor

AmericanIMG
07-30-2008, 05:59 PM
earthquakes in cali are (mostly) nothing. they aren't yearly like hurricanes or tornadoes. plus nearly all buildings in cali are built to withstand big ones.

gschneid
07-30-2008, 06:10 PM
Earthquakes are much more scary than hurricanes. If you've ever been in one you would know. Hurricanes, you know they're coming. Earthquakes, Surprise! The thing you trust most (the ground) is suddenly betraying you. You have nowhere to escape to.

AmericanIMG
07-30-2008, 07:09 PM
psh i've been in quite a bit, i lived in cali for 21 years of my life.

smu79
07-30-2008, 10:17 PM
Earthquakes are much more scary than hurricanes. If you've ever been in one you would know. Hurricanes, you know they're coming. Earthquakes, Surprise! The thing you trust most (the ground) is suddenly betraying you. You have nowhere to escape to.

the worst part about earthquakes is that they have historically happend at night or early morning...

AmericanIMG
07-30-2008, 10:48 PM
the worst part about earthquakes is that they have historically happend at night or early morning...

actually they happen all times of the day. sometimes during giants games...

Junito
08-14-2008, 02:57 PM
why anyone would pay exorbitant fees to live in a city where the weather is garbage for much of the year, the pollution is high and the pub transportation (which most people have to use) is disgusting is something that i can never understand.

1- To have all ACGME affiliated rotations (Green) rotations in one city.

2- NYC has the most residencies of any other city.

3- Eight medical schools, with two being Ivy League, the education potential is great.

4- Much more FMG friendly than most metropolitan cities.

5- Great night life.

6- The capital of the world baby...no other US city comes close.

7- I could come up with a thousand more reasons as to why medical students would flock here.

For those bashing the city, may I suggest you try to do clinical rotations at your own town. See if they will accept you with open arms.

AmericanIMG
08-14-2008, 08:32 PM
high rent, bad transportation, expensive everything.
and i believe the all green option is not in effect anymore.

as for great night life, NY has nothing on LA

butterflymd
08-14-2008, 09:24 PM
Hey American IMG have we not been through this before . BK is where it is at. Hahaha. Gotta love NY.

AmericanIMG
08-15-2008, 10:24 AM
butterfly,
wait until you're a 4th year and have been traveling (and LIVING) all over the place. then we can have this discussion again

;)

butterflymd
08-15-2008, 11:02 AM
Yes sir IMG. I will make sure and call so we can do coffee talk.:D