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[Phrozen]

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I'm not sure what to choose:

Jan 2009 Grenada or Aug 2008 GSP?

I know about the licensing issue in California for the GSP program and I don't want to shut the door on working in California once I graduate.

Should I go for the Jan 2009 class starting directly in Grenada or go to GSP this Aug 2008??

Thanks for all the help!

[argazul]

If you don't want to shut the door on CA, then its Jan 2009 Grenada for you. Most approvals won't be retroactive.

[Coldfusion]

I think it's on a case by case basis , and with St. George's reputation, it's not likely to be a problem.

Why would they punish you for one year of classes, if you still pass your USMLE, obtain residency, etc.

I think their licensing board is a bit more rational than that, although I could be wrong. I guess only time will tell.

[NYladoo]

I think it's on a case by case basis , and with St. George's reputation, it's not likely to be a problem.

Why would they punish you for one year of classes, if you still pass your USMLE, obtain residency, etc.

I think their licensing board is a bit more rational than that, although I could be wrong. I guess only time will tell.

St. George's is not a US school, so it doesn't matter they have a solid reputation as a foreign med school. CA approval isn't a joke and can take awhile, so if GSP doesn't (I don't know if they do, I'm just speaking in hypotheticals) GSP will need to show CA board that it is as strong as SGU Grenada program to be awarded CA approval.

[phronesis]

jan 09 in grenada!!!!!!!!!!!,its a lot safer, its only 4 months from august,

[Phrozen]

Thanks guys. I chose Jan 09 in Grenada.. :)

[rage medicine]

go with aug 2008 gsp. would you rather match in 2012 or 2013? that's 1 year's salary difference. that's a child's tuition for 4 years.

[Kongakut]

It doesn't matter if the state phrozen wants to get licensed in adopts the California list that at this time does not accept GSPers. Or suddenly has a great opportunity in Cali but can't become licensed there. So, maybe a kid's tuition will be delayed a year. Is that worth limiting your career options?

Good choice Phrozen. GND is cool.

[Phrozen]

go with aug 2008 gsp. would you rather match in 2012 or 2013? that's 1 year's salary difference. that's a child's tuition for 4 years.

But there's no Cali with GSP. Wouldn't it make more sense to just go to AUA or MUA-Nevis in Sept (I've already been accepted to both) and save a lot of money for tuition?

[Coldfusion]

How long do they give you to decide?

[Phrozen]

I already chose Jan 2009 in Grenada... It doesn't make sense to do the GSP and not be able to work in Cali. That's one of the perks of going to a "Top 4" school.

Still waiting to hear back from AUC. My interview for Ross is in August because I wanted to wait to hear back from SGU or AUC first instead of flying to Chicago for the Ross interview.

[Bluefirex7]

I got into GSP for aug 08 and I am taking it because England is going to be an awesome experience with my 2nd year obviously in grenada. I live in NJ, so i can so clinicals in NJ which works well for me..but yea Cali i could understand...

Joe

[Kongakut]

Well, you may have a problem with a NJ residency if you go GSP. There was some movement on this issue a little while back so I don't know what the status is now, but at one point there were issues with clinicals, residency, and licensure in NJ coming from GSP. I think the clinicals issue was resolved but since you are a NJ resident - you should definitely get the latest info.

[AngryBaby]

Well, you may have a problem with a NJ residency if you go GSP. There was some movement on this issue a little while back so I don't know what the status is now, but at one point there were issues with clinicals, residency, and licensure in NJ coming from GSP. I think the clinicals issue was resolved but since you are a NJ resident - you should definitely get the latest info.
I was also going to bring up this point. Last I heard there was a problem with GME in NJ but that the clinical rotations while still enrolled in SGU and the independent practice-rights post-residency had been favorably resolved.

If you live and/or want to work in NJ you should call the school about this specifically.

[Bluefirex7]

What do you mean...I cant do clinicals/rotations in NJ? I thought i did one year in england, the 2nd in carribean then past 1st step then get a choice or match for clinicals in US...am i misinformed?

[Phrozen]

What do you mean...I cant do clinicals/rotations in NJ? I thought i did one year in england, the 2nd in carribean then past 1st step then get a choice or match for clinicals in US...am i misinformed?

Call the school bro. Based on what I know you can't do clinicals/residency in NJ and you cannot be licensed in California if you go through GSP.

That's why I chose to just go to Grenada in Jan 2009.

[AngryBaby]

last we heard (at least last I heard) was that GSP kids can do rotations in NJ and practice independently in NJ. The problem was that the GSP students either definitely weren't allowed to perform their residency in NJ or the NJ medical board wasn't sure how to handle the GSP students and wasn't making any promises regarding residency until the first GSP students applied for a training license.

Do a search on the topic and call the school/NJ medical board.

EDIT: I am by no means up to speed or well-versed on the topic since it doesn't pertain to me so definitely don't just take my word on this. Call the school to find out for yourself. Doing a search of the forum should give you some pertinent questions.

[Bluefirex7]

I just dont see how its a problem, when i am still part of the 2012 class and only doing my first year in england..ill meet up with grenada students year 2..and graduate on time etc...i am calling the school to find out..but i dont see how residency, clinicals should be a problem in NJ...

I dont want to practice in CALI although im sure it would be nice so the cali thing is no big deal to me haha...but im going to find out whats up..

[AngryBaby]

all GSP students only do 1 year in England. The potential problem with the GSP program is that the students don't spend their entire basic science curriculum in the country of the school's charter (in this case, Grenada). This applies to all GSP students and thus applies to you.

Again, just do a search to read about the problem and you should definitely call the school.

[Bluefirex7]

But if i cant practice in NJ whats the point? I just called and they said there could be a potential problem with practicing in NJ...What should i do now?

[Bluefirex7]

If my diploma comes from SGUSOM why does it matter that i dont do all the science base in grenada? They said it was exactly the same curriculum just that i'd do my first yr in england...this is so strange i dont get it...

[Phrozen]

But if i cant practice in NJ whats the point? I just called and they said there could be a potential problem with practicing in NJ...What should i do now?

Join me in Jan 2009 in Grenada :)

[AngryBaby]

But if i cant practice in NJ whats the point? I just called and they said there could be a potential problem with practicing in NJ...What should i do now?
You can practice independently once you've finished your residency, however you may have a problem getting a residency in NJ. So you may have to do your residency in another state (such as NY) and then apply for (and presumably obtain, barring some black mark on your record) a license to practice independently in NJ upon the completion of your residency.

Do a search on "Global Scholars Program" because you're not understanding what I'm saying.

[Bluefirex7]

No no i am understadning what your saying..but ive so many different posts on the matter...do you know where what you said is posted on SGU ? How do you know that for sure...because right now you've given me a sigh of relief cuz i dont mind doing residency in NY..aslong as I CAN practice medicine in NJ with my dad...

[AngryBaby]

I was suggesting you search the forum here on VMD, not SGU's website.

Here is the result of the search I suggested, check out a few of the threads.

http://www.valuemd.com/search.php?searchid=1291103

Also what I just said is what I think is the current situation; again I'm not completely up-to-date on the topic. SGU really needs to do a much better job giving the caveats of this program to applicants.

[Bluefirex7]

when i clicked that link nothing came up..but I am searching through this site for info..Im just getting mixed responses..so I dont know..

[AngryBaby]

also the risk you take with the GSP program is that even though many will say, "Well I'm not ever going to practice in California" you never know if/which other states are going to adopt the Cali list, which a number of them already have. So not only are you apparently excluding yourself from practicing in California but if any more states adopt the Cali list (I think Arkansas did recently, I'll check) then you might run into problems there also depending upon whether the state in question allows loopholes such as previously holding a license in another state, etc.

Everything in NJ and Cali could be worked out by the time you graduate, but that's a risk you need to be aware of and decide for yourself whether or not it's worth it.

[AngryBaby]

when i clicked that link nothing came up..but I am searching through this site for info..Im just getting mixed responses..so I dont know..

Try these specific threads:

http://www.valuemd.com/st-georges-university-school-medicine/150437-whats-so-good-about-global-scholars-program.html

http://www.valuemd.com/st-georges-university-school-medicine/154430-lay-rest-rumors-regarding-gsp-global-scholars-program-california-nj-issues.html

[Coldfusion]

I'm in the same boat as you blue. I want to practice in NJ, and this whole thing is scaring me.

It seems to me like it'd be kind of strange for them not to allow you to do anything a normal SGU graduate does in NJ, seeing how the program is 75% the same.

Also, the first year of basic sciences seems like it would be the same everywhere, and as long as we all do fine on the Step 1, what difference does it make.

I'm Guessing we won't find out anytime soon.

[Bluefirex7]

thanks that email sent to that student..pretty much states i can get be licensed in NJ but might have trouble getting a residency spot..as long as i can practice there in the end thats what ultimately matters...thanks again

[Bluefirex7]

Fusion, check out the 2nd link that angry baby sent me..and email from the dean of enrollment sent to the GSP students THIS PAST April...states that we can obtain NJ licenses regardless of GSP or non-GSP stature and that residency/clinicals are still up in the air...

My sn is bluefirex7...incase IM is easier for any of you...

Joe

[AngryBaby]

no problem. The school should be doing this instead of random people over the internet. I would wait until you hear back from the NJ medical board before you made any permanent decisions; always better to hear it from the horse's mouth.

[Bluefirex7]

I was only accepted into GSP, im going no matter what..its nice knowing i can be licensed in NJ and hopefully i can do residency/clinicals there..but yea ill post something once i heard from Dean and NJ Medical Board

[Mr.Puffy]

Hi guys, I've been accepted to Jan 09 class for SGU and Ross..I was very set in going to SGU, but after speaking with my academic advisor, I'm not sure..some point she brought out was that Ross Jan 09 class graduate within 10 semesters (hence, 2012), whereas SGU Jan 09 graduate in 2013?

[argazul]

Hi guys, I've been accepted to Jan 09 class for SGU and Ross..I was very set in going to SGU, but after speaking with my academic advisor, I'm not sure..some point she brought out was that Ross Jan 09 class graduate within 10 semesters (hence, 2012), whereas SGU Jan 09 graduate in 2013?
only if you can schedule all your rotations back to back. and if you know anything about recent Ross clinical situation, that is a big IF.

[Scylin]

only if you can schedule all your rotations back to back. and if you know anything about recent Ross clinical situation, that is a big IF.

It's an even bigger "if" if you need all greenbook rotations or want to stay in the same location for a few months. SGU has a huge advantage on those two issues over Ross.

[Bluefirex7]

Just talked to Dean of Enrollment..obviously as we know California is out of the picture...GSP is eligible for licensure in NJ but clinicals/rotations are still ify and not accredited yet..there have been no updates but he is confident NJ will get things accredited soon because GSP has met the guidelines that each states medical board wants so it is just a matter of time...hopefully less than 2 yrs for me...

[argazul]

You should also ask them if the approval will be retroactive. Make sure the approval does not say the student who will enroll after this announcement are eligible and if SGU is addressing this.

[Kongakut]

Arga makes a very good point. If it not retroactive - then if you start now - you will not be eligible for clinicals/residency in NJ.

[Bluefirex7]

I know, but he had said he doesnt know if it WOULD be retroactive or not...Ive got someone working to try and get me transferred into grenada for 2 years...but i know alot of people in NJ because my dad is a doc here so i dont know i will just have to wait and hear whats up for clinicals/residency...

[CANeh]

Almost everyone I talked to from August 2007 GSP entry (which are now in Grenada for term 3) said they are happy that we did 1 year in the UK and will only be doing 1 year in Grenada.

Licensing in California is an issue, and doing residency in NJ is an issue. These are things that you will have to look into and decide what is worth more for you.

[Bluefirex7]

Well im definitely going to GSP in England...just waiting to see if i can switch progams..either way im happy because i can practice in NJ which is the ultimate goal for me..

[Coldfusion]

Have you bought your plane ticket yet blue?

[Bluefirex7]

Yea i have plane tickets, my parents, my gf and I will be going, and ofcourse ill be staying while they leave :( haha but yea im excited...

[Coldfusion]

Can you gimme the details, date, airline, $?

Trying to find a good deal. Thanks.

Also, do you know if its cheaper to use philly, newark, or jfk?

[Bluefirex7]

Where you from? I am using Philly i think, i'll ask my mom and get the details from her to let you know..I know it cost me about 1100 round trip, flying in aug 8th and my parents/gf leaving after white coat while i stay until 12/13/08 to come home..british airways i think is the airline, but ill get the info and stay in touch..

[jelaeris]

Hi everyone! I am really interested in Keith B Taylor Program but I have no clue how it works, except that you go to England for a year and after a year of studying they give you are certificate. But there is no information about how financial aid is provided (like does it cover tuition and books?), which countries you can go to serve (can you chose yourself or the program directors do it for you?)

Thank you!

[cavalletti]

which countries you can go to serve (can you chose yourself or the program directors do it for you?)


There's no service requirement. Many US students attend this program. It is supposed to mirror the Grenada program.

[jelaeris]

I thought you are required to serve a year in an underdeveloped country... at least thats what it says in the booklet I have...

[Kongakut]

Please check other threads on GSP, as there are other issues with NJ (residency) and Cali (clinicals and/or residency and/or licensure). You can search under GSP.

[Kongakut]

I thought you are required to serve a year in an underdeveloped country... at least thats what it says in the booklet I have...

From SGU web page:

Prospective students who wish to apply for this program (GSP) must include a 500-word essay which demonstrates a commitment to dedicating at least a part of their professional lives to practicing medicine in developing countries or underserved regions of a developed country.

IMO, you decide what your level of commitment may be and then write about it.

[NYladoo]

From SGU web page:

Prospective students who wish to apply for this program (GSP) must include a 500-word essay which demonstrates a commitment to dedicating at least a part of their professional lives to practicing medicine in developing countries or underserved regions of a developed country.

IMO, you decide what your level of commitment may be and then write about it.

That's kind of funny considering those students study in England (a developed/industrial/post-industrial, whatever you call it these days) and spend less time in a developing country like Grenada. :)

[Bluefirex7]

I am going GSP this fall and i thought i had to serve time or something too..but when i got in back in March i realized you didnt have to...Jelaeris it is one yr in england, one yr in grenada and then pass step1 that summer i believe, then clinicals then residency

[ameyer1211]

I think it looks like a great opportunity to study in Europe, gain some understanding of the medical practices in developing countries and hopefully be the exact same as grenada. it is kind of humorous that the focus is medicine in developing countries as new castle is much more developed then grenada.

[jelaeris]

oh great! thanks for the information bluefirex7. I didnt know that after 2 years I can take the exam and be a resident. (or is it same for "regular" SGU medical students, or do they jus take step 1 exam after 4 years of education in Grenada?) Please forgive my ignorance on this step 1 exam because for now all my concern is getting into a medical school (hopefully to SGU) (im going to take the MCAT tomorrow actually)...
Thanks again for the info...

[rokshana]

oh great! thanks for the information bluefirex7. I didnt know that after 2 years I can take the exam and be a resident. (or is it same for "regular" SGU medical students, or do they jus take step 1 exam after 4 years of education in Grenada?) Please forgive my ignorance on this step 1 exam because for now all my concern is getting into a medical school (hopefully to SGU) (im going to take the MCAT tomorrow actually)...
Thanks again for the info...

no you cannot take an exam after 2 years and be a resident...you take step I after the 1st 2 years, take step II CK and CS after the 3rd year and finish all your rotations, THEN you will be a resident (if you match somewhere)...

[jelaeris]

wow... I have tons to learn... thanks rokshana..

[Bluefirex7]

haha gotta pass step 1, then go through clinicals/rotations, then pass 2 and then u match for residency, after first yr of residency i believe u pass 3 and then u get your license..but if uspecialize..u gotta finish specialty training then take the board for it and pass it to be board certified in that specialty, im pretty sure thats the lineup..but i could have something mixed up..

[thiban]

Hey Guys,
I was admitted to the January '09 KBTBSP and I want to know who else got in. I am from Toronto Ontario, Canada, Went to the University of Toronto at Scarborough. I am researching on this program since it is new. I am still not 100% sure if it is more worth it than going to St. George's for 2 years. One major problem is living expenses. What do you guys think?

[Coldfusion]

http://www.valuemd.com/st-georges-university-school-medicine/143525-2008-accepted-gsp-students.html

[CANeh]

Okay when someone puts Class of 2009. IT means that you will graduate in 2009.
So in your case it will be Class of 2013.

[BCgal]

Hey,

I'll be doing GSP in Jan as well. I'm reeeally excited about the program :)

[timisdaman]

Global Scholars Program - SGU FAQ Wiki (http://sgufaq.medstudentnotes.net/wiki/Global_Scholars_Program)

[thiban]

Thanks for pointing out my mistake CANeh. I didn't realize I wrote that :-)

[thiban]

Hey BCgal, I'm excited as well....why did you choose to goto newcastle instead of grenada?

[NYC Medic]

What is the difference between the two (besides the location)?

[cavalletti]

What is the difference between the two (besides the location)?

They are supposed to be mirror images of each other. They even write tests at the same time (time difference taken into consideration). See link to SGU site Programs - Global Scholars Program - School of Medicine - St. George’s University (http://www.sgu.edu/website/sguwebsite.nsf/som/global-scholars.html)

SGU does advise Cali students to matriculate at the Grenada campus as Cali is reviewing the GSP before confirming state acceptance.

[ecela7]

Cloudy skies vs blue skies

[rokshana]

do a search-this has been discussed ad naueum...

[AngryBaby]

and ad-infinitum...

[tiapsu]

hey guys, i'm interviewing this Friday for the Jan 09 GSP. any advice? can anyone tell me what the 15 minute personal essay is all about? ~~thanks!

[akebaje]

hey guys, i'm interviewing this Friday for the Jan 09 GSP. any advice? can anyone tell me what the 15 minute personal essay is all about? ~~thanks!

It's nothing serious. I didn't even know about it till I got to the interview. Basically, you choose one of 3 prompts I believe and write a page or so about it. I chose something pretty easy so writing abt it will come more easily. Don't lose sleep over it

[breezemaker]

Hey Guys,

Just a notice that if your heading over to the UK for the Global Scholars Program. You can join the official "SGU Global Scholars Program" facebook group. There you will find a wealth of information, discussions, tips, and photos, all that have been posted by the previous classes, that will come in handy.

Please be sure to share this with everyone.

[breezemaker]

Hey Guys,

Just a notice that if your heading over to the UK for the Global Scholars Program. You can join the official "SGU Global Scholars Program" facebook group. There you will find a wealth of information, discussions, tips, and photos, all that have been posted by the previous classes, that will come in handy.

Please be sure to share this with everyone.

[breezemaker]

Hey Guys,

Just a notice that if your heading over to the UK for the Global Scholars Program. You can join the official "SGU Global Scholars Program" facebook group. There you will find a wealth of information, discussions, tips, and photos, all that have been posted by the previous classes, that will come in handy.

Please be sure to share this with everyone.

[breezemaker]

Hey Guys,

Just a notice that if your heading over to the UK for the Global Scholars Program. You can join the official "SGU Global Scholars Program" facebook group. There you will find a wealth of information, discussions, tips, and photos, all that have been posted by the previous classes, that will come in handy.

Please be sure to share this with everyone.

[medie123]

I remember reading (either on this site or sdn) that we could fly into london and take a train to newcastle for something like 15-20 GBP. Can someone who has done anything like this before tell me where I can get cheap train tickets (so far all i've come across is anywhere between 100-200 GBP). Or has anyone found cheap airfare directly to newcastle (the ticket diference i found between LHR and NCL is about $400 and with 3 people traveling that comes out to another $1200 which I believe could be better spend). So if anyone knows where i can get that 15-20 GBP train ticket i would LOVE to hear from you!

[Reilly]

I remember reading (either on this site or sdn) that we could fly into london and take a train to newcastle for something like 15-20 GBP. Can someone who has done anything like this before tell me where I can get cheap train tickets (so far all i've come across is anywhere between 100-200 GBP). Or has anyone found cheap airfare directly to newcastle (the ticket diference i found between LHR and NCL is about $400 and with 3 people traveling that comes out to another $1200 which I believe could be better spend). So if anyone knows where i can get that 15-20 GBP train ticket i would LOVE to hear from you!

Wish I could be more helpful, but I looked into taking a train and in one direction the price was more than I expected and in few days I looked at we would have had to transferred onto buses, so be careful that doesn't happen to you.

However, I booked a flight from Newcastle to London for like 35 pounds i believe (so like $70 one way for 1 ticket). Might have been due to booking 5 months in advances, but it shouldn't be $400, thats ridiculous. I used British Airways and the flight was in May.

[aust0042]

I remember reading (either on this site or sdn) that we could fly into london and take a train to newcastle for something like 15-20 GBP. Can someone who has done anything like this before tell me where I can get cheap train tickets (so far all i've come across is anywhere between 100-200 GBP). Or has anyone found cheap airfare directly to newcastle (the ticket diference i found between LHR and NCL is about $400 and with 3 people traveling that comes out to another $1200 which I believe could be better spend). So if anyone knows where i can get that 15-20 GBP train ticket i would LOVE to hear from you!

What airline and from where are you flying? I flew Northwest from the states and then used their partner KLM to fly directly into Newcastle.

[Sassafras]

Try Easy Jet, they have really cheap flights all around europe, I have found tickets from London to Paris on there for like 10 GBP. I have heard Ryan air is another good one.

[CANeh]

Try Easy Jet, they have really cheap flights all around europe, I have found tickets from London to Paris on there for like 10 GBP. I have heard Ryan air is another good one.

Also try King Cross (London) to Newcastle station via train.

Virgin Trains - buy cheap train tickets online, train times, UK rail travel information (http://www.virgintrains.co.uk/default.aspx)

(PS. The only problem with taking easy jet is they have a bag weight limit and if you are just moving there, you prob have a lot of bags).

The other option, if you are 2 or 3 people heading up to NCL you may wish to rent a car and venture driving on the opposite side of the road. It would be the cheapest way, but prob most dangerous.

[cavalletti]

The other option, if you are 2 or 3 people heading up to NCL you may wish to rent a car and venture driving on the opposite side of the road. It would be the cheapest way, but prob most dangerous.

Great warm-up exercise for driving in Grenada.

[BCgal]

Hey Guys,

I asked this question in the threads but it wasn't answered so I'll try here. How are the rooms at Kirkley? Is there much difference in bedroom size between 2, 3 or 4 bdrm apartments? Also, can the rooms be co-ed if we have a friend request? Thanks :)

[akebaje]

Hey Guys,

I asked this question in the threads but it wasn't answered so I'll try here. How are the rooms at Kirkley? Is there much difference in bedroom size between 2, 3 or 4 bdrm apartments? Also, can the rooms be co-ed if we have a friend request? Thanks :)

Am in Kirkley right now and the rooms are pretty good. The only problem I have is that 2 rooms are pretty big but the 3rd one is tiny in comparison. How manage?!? :rolleyes: (I'm supposedly in a 3 brd but made into 4 (+ common room) cos we are a pretty big set).

I doubt the rooms are co-ed but ur neighbours can be d opposite sex

Hope that answers your Q.

[DrBigzMD]

hey guys, ive already had my interview for the grenada jan 09 class and declined GSP due to cali issues...which states can gsp students do residency/work in, since cali and nj are not approved.

since i declined, if i call my counselor and let her know i'd like to be considered, would they still give me a chance for gsp? thanks.

[akebaje]

hey guys, ive already had my interview for the grenada jan 09 class and declined GSP due to cali issues...which states can gsp students do residency/work in, since cali and nj are not approved.

since i declined, if i call my counselor and let her know i'd like to be considered, would they still give me a chance for gsp? thanks.

Yeah, call and speak to your counselor.
Same thing here. Said no up until a week before I got accepted. Just called in and told her I had a "re-think" and I like the GSP idea. Got in.:D

As for cali/nj, I believe it's just cali and not nj. Dont quote me on that though.

[DrBigzMD]

thanks akebaje...did they make u write the 500 word essay for the GSP application? or do they not require that anymore?

[akebaje]

thanks akebaje...did they make u write the 500 word essay for the GSP application? or do they not require that anymore?
Yes, I did but funny thing was I got accepted before I sent it in.

[lost crow]

I have a quick question regarding housing in Grenada after the Global Scholar Program in the U.K. If I attend that program, will I be regarded as an upperclassman in Grenada for housing although I did not live in Grenada for the previous year? I'm guessing that I would and my opinion is that I should be but I'm unsure lol.

[medie123]

is anyone CURRENTLY in newcastle? or are all of you awaiting the Jan start date?

[CANeh]

I have a quick question regarding housing in Grenada after the Global Scholar Program in the U.K. If I attend that program, will I be regarded as an upperclassman in Grenada for housing although I did not live in Grenada for the previous year? I'm guessing that I would and my opinion is that I should be but I'm unsure lol.

You are guaranteed housing in Term 3/4 since it would be your first time in Grenada. If you have questions talk to your footsteps buddy that you were assigned in January before you started.

Also I believe that you will be asked if you want another Foot step body for your transition to Grenada. Most of us in the term ahead of you would be willing to answer questions and help out as much as we can.

PS. Enjoy Newcastle ... I know it seems like you want to get the H out of there... but we suggest you enjoy it.

[CANeh]

Just so everyone who has the same questions can read this.. and not send me PM. We have midterms coming up and Term 4 is not light.

Hi CANeh,
1) Thanks for your very quick response. So aside from the NJ and Cali issues, I had a few more q if you dont mind

2) Since you have been through both, which one would you recommend? Did you like the UK program or was it isolated?

3) Transition back to Grenada and meeting the other classmates, how was that?

4) If you were to do it again, would you still recommend the UK program for year 1, or would you suggest starting with majority of people in Grenada from the start?

Thanks again,
Best

1. Yes only NJ (doing residency there) and California seem to be the problem. Possibly Texas but no one has said much about it.

2. I liked the GSP program. They have fixed many of the problems they had at first and are fixing more. I did not feel that way when I was there... but then realized how much better a smaller class size was. Not to mention the advantage of living in the UK for one year.

3. Transition was fine. Grenada is a huge class.. so you will meet new people. That is a good thing, cause with a small group.. like GSP you will may be sick of the same people after one year.

4. If i was to do it again, I would go with... (do I only have SGU GSP or SGU Grenada Option??) If so definitely SGU GSP.

[NtHouse07]

edit............

[NtHouse07]

wooo, ok, edited again................

[Phrozen]

The bad thing with GSP is that you don't have California. I would rather just go to a non-Cali approved school then and save a lot of money. Cali-approval is one of the main advantages of going to SGU (along with the other 3 approved schools).

More and more states may start following Cali's list so you never know what doors you're going to shut before they're even open.

[BCgal]

Just wondering, is it worth it to pre-purchase the sheet set and dishes set listed on the housing forms? Or is it better to wait until we arrive and find our own? Are the sheets comfortable/warm?

[aust0042]

Just wondering, is it worth it to pre-purchase the sheet set and dishes set listed on the housing forms? Or is it better to wait until we arrive and find our own? Are the sheets comfortable/warm?

I would not buy either. There is a good chance that students from previous terms will have left behind sufficient dishes if you are living in Kirkley or Parrish. I would just buy a single sheet and fitted sheet and bring it from home. Better quality and probably cheaper.

[EV]

1. Yes only NJ (doing residency there) and California seem to be the problem. Possibly Texas but no one has said much about it.



You cannot do rotations in NJ either as was just announced this past Sunday. You can rotate in Cali, but no residency.

[BCgal]

You cannot do rotations in NJ either as was just announced this past Sunday. You can rotate in Cali, but no residency.

Hey, do you have a link to this announcement? Where did you hear the news?

[EV]

Hey, do you have a link to this announcement? Where did you hear the news?

No link. It was said during the Clinical Placements meeting for 6th termers. Needless to say it was a huge shock for all the GSP students as this was the first they heard about it. Supposedly the school is working on rectifying it so I doubt there will be an official statement. So for now it's just an FYI.

[CANeh]

Well as soon as we found out from the DEAN at our white coat, it was meant that:

1a. Licensing in California would be difficult at this time since the program has not been evaluated. Ongoing thing... I won't be holding my breath.

1b. Because of 1a, why would you want to do rotations in California. Also only 1 or 2 people from California decided to stay in our class anyway. But since the rest are not from CA why would you want to do rotations there. You would not have priority over other who are from CA in Grenada. Also there are not too many placements there to start off with. So most CA residents will end up on the east coast.

2a. Residency in NJ would not be possible yet either, however post-residency one can work in NJ.

2b. Because of 2a, why would anyone want to do rotations in NJ if they can't do residency there, it would not make much sense. You can't demonstrate your ability during rotations.

[EV]

2a. Residency in NJ would not be possible yet either, however post-residency one can work in NJ.

2b. Because of 2a, why would anyone want to do rotations in NJ if they can't do residency there, it would not make much sense. You can't demonstrate your ability during rotations.

Some people currently live in NJ and were hoping to do the rotations there regardless of where they would end up for residency.

[francescoc]

Hey there......does anyone know whether or not the GSP program has fixed the issue with Cali yet?

[astronugget]

2a. Residency in NJ would not be possible yet either, however post-residency one can work in NJ.

2b. Because of 2a, why would anyone want to do rotations in NJ if they can't do residency there, it would not make much sense. You can't demonstrate your ability during rotations.

There are a ton of other states where students may eventually want to do a residency but where rotations aren't available. People may pick NJ for family, financial or a bunch of other reasons unrelated to their intended location for residency.

[CANeh]

There are a ton of other states where students may eventually want to do a residency but where rotations aren't available. People may pick NJ for family, financial or a bunch of other reasons unrelated to their intended location for residency.

I know I know.. but being Kanadiana I figured there would be some logic to doing rotations in a state you may want to match.. especially if things become desperate and you need a spot. But I understand that it would be easy for USA citizens to do rotations in one state and residency in another.

[kokochocolata]

If you get accepted to GSP, are u automatically accepted to Greneda campus in 1styear
Hello,
I have gone through almost all of the posts, but do not know one answer?
If you have an interview for GSP and you get in, what is the answer like?....do they tell you that you are accepted to continue first year in the UK and in Greneda and you have to choose afterwards?
Or do you have to go through two interviews, one for UK campus and one for Greneda?
And in case they do not tell you you got accepted in both....can you switch to the Greneda Campus??
Plzzzzz help

[akebaje]

If you get accepted to GSP, are u automatically accepted to Greneda campus in 1styear
Hello,
I have gone through almost all of the posts, but do not know one answer?
If you have an interview for GSP and you get in, what is the answer like?....do they tell you that you are accepted to continue first year in the UK and in Greneda and you have to choose afterwards?
Or do you have to go through two interviews, one for UK campus and one for Greneda?
And in case they do not tell you you got accepted in both....can you switch to the Greneda Campus??
Plzzzzz help

If you are interviewed for GSP and you get in, then you off to the UK for your 1st year (no Grenada, not until 2nd yr)

If you are interviewed for Grenada and you get accepted, then Grenada it is.

Does that answer your Q?

[kokochocolata]

I think I got it, thank you

[NYjf12]

this question is for anyone who has been or is in the KBTGSP sine i just applied for it for Jan'08.
I am currently in the FTM program and a few of our parofessors will be term 1 or term 2 professors in SOM and they are great! so my question is how do you feel about the lecturers for term 1 and term 2 in newcastle? Can you please give some comments about the teaching, lecture hall and labs? (as far as i know the lectures and exms are the same) can you also comment about living in newcastle in general and commuting to campus. how do you feel about the actual progam itself in comparison to in grenada.
thanks a lot!

[aust0042]

this question is for anyone who has been or is in the KBTGSP sine i just applied for it for Jan'08.
I am currently in the FTM program and a few of our parofessors will be term 1 or term 2 professors in SOM and they are great! so my question is how do you feel about the lecturers for term 1 and term 2 in newcastle? Can you please give some comments about the teaching, lecture hall and labs? (as far as i know the lectures and exms are the same) can you also comment about living in newcastle in general and commuting to campus. how do you feel about the actual progam itself in comparison to in grenada.
thanks a lot!

I think you mean Jan '09.
I am currently in the GSP, term 2. I have enjoyed my time here. I've never been to Grenada, so tough to compare. Some of the lecturers here are very good, some not so much. I don't think that is different than anywhere else though. We do take the exact same exams as our peers in Grenada, at the exact same times. I would recommend the UK experience.

[PinkRunner09]

Hi folks! I've just learned of my acceptance into the GSP for Jan 2009...I will be travelling from PA by way of Washington, DC...I've been following this forum since I began my app process in July...i look forward to meeting many of you soon!

[messy]

can I ask you guys.. for those who are from the Tri-State area or near Cali or a state that follows the Cali medical board, why are you going to GSP? Are you really that okay with being limited on the number of states in America you can practice?

[KB_17]

Hey Everyone!

I made a Facebook group for the Jan 2009 GSP entering class. I've been told we'll be receiving info on this page from some current students as well :) Enjoy!


facebook.com/group.php?gid=36219498099

[Jeff4u2]

does anyone know if there would be any issues with working in Rhode Island or New York if i did the GSP? i know there are problems with new jersey and california and i've finally decided i'll probably never work in those two states BUT....how does everyone know that it will be okay in new york(where i'd like to work) or rhode island (my home state) or other northeastern states?

the first class hasn't even graduated yet. i looked for like an hour to find new york accepted programs and i couldn't find anything online. the reason i'm asking is because i was accepted to sgu's gsp and i'd like to know for sure if i'm safe with that program. does anyone have any links to official websites that have this information????

[AJ da Pimp]

I am part of the first GSP class. We had a meeting with the Chancellor last week concerning all of this and here is the information. Concerning LICENSING, the only state that has yet to accept the program is California. All other states are fine. Concerning CLERKSHIPS, at the present time, NJ is out along with California, however they expect this to be resolved very soon. This is what the Chancellor himself told us. Hope this helps you out.

[Jeff4u2]

thanks AJ! that actually does help me a lot. if the chancellor says it's okay then i feel good about it. I think i'm gonna go with the gsp.

i would feel better about it though if i could see an official website or something with this info. sgu should really post some of this stuff up on their website. If anyone has any more info about this please let me know, i have a week left till the deposit is due for the gsp.

[CANeh]

thanks AJ! that actually does help me a lot. if the chancellor says it's okay then i feel good about it. I think i'm gonna go with the gsp.

i would feel better about it though if i could see an official website or something with this info. sgu should really post some of this stuff up on their website. If anyone has any more info about this please let me know, i have a week left till the deposit is due for the gsp.

Until the program is accepted in California it won't be in print or official. Also even if Governor Arnold himself said it would be okay, it doesn't matter till it is approved by state board.

[lost crow]

Hi,

Quick question regarding housing. Does anyone that is participating in GSP have any pictures of the residence halls i.e. Parrish Courts and Kirkley?


Thanks.

[aust0042]

Hi,

Quick question regarding housing. Does anyone that is participating in GSP have any pictures of the residence halls i.e. Parrish Courts and Kirkley?


Thanks.

I previously posted some Kirkley pics, it may have been in this thread.
This term they have converted the living room/lounge into another bedroom in many of the flats in Kirkley. So some units have 4 people and 1 bathroom. I thought 3 people and 1 bathroom sucked...

[cavalletti]

thanks AJ! that actually does help me a lot. if the chancellor says it's okay then i feel good about it. I think i'm gonna go with the gsp.

i would feel better about it though if i could see an official website or something with this info.

I'm not aware of anything in writing regarding GSP and Cali. I do know that the Chancellor has been very up-front about lisensing issues and is concerned about the students. For example, when he became aware of the Cali and NJ issue, matriculating students were made aware of it immediately. Residents of these states were advised to attend the Grenada campus and a spot was made available for them. SGU reimbursed any deposit $ and plane fare that was lost due to last minute change in plans. SGU has been accountable and has acted responsibly.

All the best with your choice.

[JINDAL2012]

what the dean or chancellor from SGU says is important about CA, but you have to make sure you can get it retroactive because even if they approve..it will take some time to kick in, especially if you're coming in Jan 09 and even August 09.....

pursue the Grenada with counselor..and look to other schools you applied to that have CA licensing whether it's a US med/DO school or the other Carribean med schools like Ross, and AUC and Saba.

AUC and Saba would be your HAIL MARY options.

[grayeyes043]

what the dean or chancellor from SGU says is important about CA, but you have to make sure you can get it retroactive because even if they approve..it will take some time to kick in, especially if you're coming in Jan 09 and even August 09.....

pursue the Grenada with counselor..and look to other schools you applied to that have CA licensing whether it's a US med/DO school or the other Carribean med schools like Ross, and AUC and Saba.

AUC and Saba would be your HAIL MARY options.


How can a student make something retroactive...not possible.

If the state of California decides to approve the GSP program it won't be retroactive and the students will not have the power to do anything to stop it.

[Blue89]

Actually, according to the Chancellor that's not true. It is up to the state of California whether on not approval of GSP would be retroactive or not. When the Chancellor met with GSP students recently he was quite enthusiastic that California would approve the GSP and make that approval retroactive.

[DrFraud]

I am part of the first GSP class. We had a meeting with the Chancellor last week concerning all of this and here is the information. Concerning LICENSING, the only state that has yet to accept the program is California. All other states are fine. Concerning CLERKSHIPS, at the present time, NJ is out along with California, however they expect this to be resolved very soon. This is what the Chancellor himself told us. Hope this helps you out.

Not being approved in Cali is like not being approved in 12-13 states, and any other states down the line that choosees to recognize the Cali list.

There is a possibility that Cali will approve the GSP, and a possibility that it will be retroactive, but two points about this -

1) The more that SGU tries to ram this down the throats of the Cali board and pressures them, the possibility will grow that Cali might react against this type of pressure and either defer making a desision or giving a thumbs down to the retroactive (similar to a qualified medical school applicant being to pushy with an adcom)

2) You are spending a lot of money and time and taking an unnecessary risk with your future ability to practice if you select this or any medical program that might or might not give you 50 state approval over a program that definitely offers 50 state approval (such as Saba, Ross, and AUC). There are articles all over this forum showing doctors in resideny finding out they cant practice in their home state or spouces state (like Arkansas for example) because the number of states that use the california list continues to grow.

[DrFraud]

AUC and Saba would be your HAIL MARY options.

Not really. Both AUC and Saba offer a solid foundation in medicine, have fairly equivilant clinical options as SGU, and a good record for placing students in residency programs (you can check their respective web sites if you dont believe me)

Saba is significantly cheaper, but there they don't offer federally guarenteed loans, so credit and getting loans is a bigger issue with Saba even though it is less expensive.

[Blue89]

Not being approved in Cali is like not being approved in 12-13 states, and any other states down the line that choosees to recognize the Cali list.

There is a possibility that Cali will approve the GSP, and a possibility that it will be retroactive, but two points about this -

1) The more that SGU tries to ram this down the throats of the Cali board and pressures them, the possibility will grow that Cali might react against this type of pressure and either defer making a desision or giving a thumbs down to the retroactive (similar to a qualified medical school applicant being to pushy with an adcom)

2) You are spending a lot of money and time and taking an unnecessary risk with your future ability to practice if you select this or any medical program that might or might not give you 50 state approval over a program that definitely offers 50 state approval (such as Saba, Ross, and AUC). There are articles all over this forum showing doctors in resideny finding out they cant practice in their home state or spouces state (like Arkansas for example) because the number of states that use the california list continues to grow.

To address point #1: From all of the information we have gotten from the Chancellor and the letter that arrived from the California Medical Board, which was read to those in attendance at the latest GSP meeting, this isn't quite accurate. SGU isn't putting pressure on the California Board. The chancellor is actually doing the opposite, patiently waiting and sending whatever information the board requires. This is part of why the resolution to this is taking so long, SGU is waiting for the slow-moving political process.

To address point #2: There are only four states in the US that require detailed review in medical education: California, New York, New Jersey and Florida. The other 46 states require a diploma from a WHO-approved school and acceptable board-exam scores. There is no formal reporting process in any of these 46 states. New York doesn't have a problem with GSP and the only problem with New Jersey (at the moment) is legal language making it unclear as to whether or not GSP students could train (i.e. clinical rotations or residency) in the state. There has never been an issue with licensing in New Jersey. Since GSP students have always been SGU students and will graduate with a SGU diploma this is a non-issue in the other 46 states. It is currently the university that is placing prohibitions on doing clinical rotations in California and New Jersey because they don't want to appear disrespectful to the authority of the medical boards.

I am confused as to how there could be residents learning that they can't practice because of a GSP diploma since the first GSP students are currently in 6th term.

[DrFraud]

Actually, according to the Chancellor that's not true. It is up to the state of California whether on not approval of GSP would be retroactive or not. When the Chancellor met with GSP students recently he was quite enthusiastic that California would approve the GSP and make that approval retroactive.


CM is setting expectations about the Cali decision before it is in fact made, and this puts the Cali board in a difficult position if pseudo-promises are being given to students before Cali rules. I hope for the sake of the students who already attend GSP that the approval, if given, is in fact retroactive.

When you do not have Cali approval, there are about 12 states now, and that number is growing, that recognize the Cali list. Here is the latest thread I found....
http://www.valuemd.com/state-medical-licensing-information/158106-arkansas-adopts-ca-list-how-sad-5.html

you are very misinformed if you believe that Cali approval only applies to one state, and I hope for your sake if you are considering this program you make sure the states you might want to practice in does not use the Cali list.

-DrFraud

[CANeh]

CM is setting expectations about the Cali decision before it is in fact made, and this puts the Cali board in a difficult position if pseudo-promises are being given to students before Cali rules. I hope for the sake of the students who already attend GSP that the approval, if given, is in fact retroactive.

When you do not have Cali approval, there are about 12 states now, and that number is growing, that recognize the Cali list. Here is the latest thread I found....
http://www.valuemd.com/state-medical-licensing-information/158106-arkansas-adopts-ca-list-how-sad-5.html

you are very misinformed if you believe that Cali approval only applies to one state, and I hope for your sake if you are considering this program you make sure the states you might want to practice in does not use the Cali list.

-DrFraud

CM told us he is hoping for the best. There were no promises or guarantees. If you were in charge of a company, you would be optimistic that things will work out for the best and not think things are going to fail.

They also offered to help us whatever the case may be, or whatever may happen with this decision. Please don't start this snow ball effect of hearsay since you were not there, no one promised us that it will be OK. Also I am confident that SGU out of all the schools will do whatever it takes to meet requirements set.

[CANeh]

even if its for future classes and not the first few.

[DrFraud]

CM told us he is hoping for the best. There were no promises or guarantees. If you were in charge of a company, you would be optimistic that things will work out for the best and not think things are going to fail.

They also offered to help us whatever the case may be, or whatever may happen with this decision. Please don't start this snow ball effect of hearsay since you were not there, no one promised us that it will be OK. Also I am confident that SGU out of all the schools will do whatever it takes to meet requirements set.

I hope the efforts are successful, both for you and the other students who attend. I just wanted to point out to applicants that it is a mistake to be overly optimistic about getting Cali approval to applicants before it happens as it is not a given.

[Reilly]

CM is setting expectations about the Cali decision before it is in fact made, and this puts the Cali board in a difficult position if pseudo-promises are being given to students before Cali rules. I hope for the sake of the students who already attend GSP that the approval, if given, is in fact retroactive.

Seriously you need to stop talking about things you don't fully understand; especially since you are not from SGU nor fully understand the GSP program situation. He never promised it would work out. He seemed to try and give a fair and open response about the current situation. He discussed to us why it is taking so long, and what he expects will happen in regards to the next few months. He actually made it perfectly clear that he does not want to pressure California, as he told us we should not do clinicals there. He did mention that with his experiences with boards, it looked like things were moving in a positive direction. Again, he did not promise it would work out, and even gave a "if all else fails" scenario were students could freely retake first year classes in GND. Not the best scenario, but he's trying to keep options open.

[Blue89]

There were no promises made pseudo or otherwise. CM only stated his opinion and outlook on the situation. He also shared a letter he had received from California.
I am quite certain that I am not misinformed, but thank you for your concern. Since I don't believe you have a legal degree, I am going to trust my own research and reasoning. The data from both programs illustrates that the GSP program is identical and just as excellent as the education SGU has been providing for thirty years on the island of Grenada. And all 50 states have recognized that. The exam scores from England and Grenada are indistinguishable, and with the recent research demonstrating SGU leading the Caribbean in USMLE scores for the last 15 years, I doubt that approval of the GSP will be a problem.

[DrFraud]

Seriously you need to stop talking about things you don't fully understand; especially since you are not from SGU nor fully understand the GSP program situation. He never promised it would work out. He seemed to try and give a fair and open response about the current situation. He discussed to us why it is taking so long, and what he expects will happen in regards to the next few months. He actually made it perfectly clear that he does not want to pressure California, as he told us we should not do clinicals there. He did mention that with his experiences with boards, it looked like things were moving in a positive direction. Again, he did not promise it would work out, and even gave a "if all else fails" scenario were students could freely retake first year classes in GND. Not the best scenario, but he's trying to keep options open.

I am not speaking for your benefit, but rather, for the benefit of anyone considering this program. It is a misstatement to say that not having Cali affects only one state. I've seen this drama play out many times b-4 at other programs on this forum so this program is not the first I have heard of where posts have given misleading information to applicants suggesting that Cali approval only affects one state when it impacts over 10 states or likewise, that if approval is given it might be retroactive when no one at this time has any idea whatsoever if retroactive approval will be given.

[cavalletti]

Only time will tell what the outcome will be.

I'm confident that CM will proceed in the best interests of SGU and it's students and that he will do everything he can to influence a favourable outcome, in a timely manner.

Historically, when CM gets involved, things get done.

[CANeh]

Only time will tell what the outcome will be.

I'm confident that CM will proceed in the best interests of SGU and it's students and that he will do everything he can to influence a favourable outcome, in a timely manner.

Historically, when CM gets involved, things get done.

I hope you meant .. "RESULTING IN A favorable outcome". and NOT INFLUENCING.

[Jeff4u2]

are we allowed to stay in the kirkley apartments over the summer?

i was thinking after term 1 ends in may i'd stay a couple weeks and travel a little. maybe go to a couple cities around the UK. It'd be easier if i could use my apartment in newcastle while i'm still in the uk. has anyone done this??

[scp023]

will the gsp will have all 50 states accredited

[aust0042]

are we allowed to stay in the kirkley apartments over the summer?

i was thinking after term 1 ends in may i'd stay a couple weeks and travel a little. maybe go to a couple cities around the UK. It'd be easier if i could use my apartment in newcastle while i'm still in the uk. has anyone done this??

Last summer (mid-May-early August) they allowed students to stay for "free" in Kirkley if they agreed to live there again in the fall for their 2nd term.

[Jeff4u2]

Last summer (mid-May-early August) they allowed students to stay for "free" in Kirkley if they agreed to live there again in the fall for their 2nd term.


really? what do you mean by "free"? and were they okay with having friends stay in your apartment with you for like 2-3 weeks? i have maybe 3-4 friends who were thinking about coming to visit. this is awesome!

[aust0042]

really? what do you mean by "free"? and were they okay with having friends stay in your apartment with you for like 2-3 weeks? i have maybe 3-4 friends who were thinking about coming to visit. this is awesome!

Well I'm sure they (SGU) factor in the vacant summer months when gouging you for fall and spring semesters. I think it is very quiet at Kirkley in the summer, so I doubt anyone cares who stays with you. Tell your friends to bring an inflatable mattress, they will be sleeping on the floor.

[01-09]

i heard sgu is full

[lost crow]

Since SGU is situted on or close to Northumbria, are there are any meal plans with Northumbria that SGU students make use of?

[Blue89]

There is no meal plan in Newcastle or in Grenada. Time to learn to survive on your own cooking...it's not as scary as it sounds.

[Jeff4u2]

has anyone heard from housing yet?

i have everything ready to go for england (visa, plane ticket, acceptance letter, voucher thing, loan) but they haven't told me where i'm staying or who i am staying with yet.

what's going on with that?

[krm232]

You probably won't know until you get there

[Jeff4u2]

really? is something going messed up with housing? do they not have everything set up yet?
i read on this forum somewhere that they are increasing the amount of students in the gsp.

[snowedin***]

really? is something going messed up with housing? do they not have everything set up yet?
i read on this forum somewhere that they are increasing the amount of students in the gsp.

I think the GSP program was set up to accomodate 150 people. Maybe they are just getting close to filling all of the available spots.

[krm232]

No, the housing isn't really messed up, but I know the woman who runs housing, and helped her set up for the arrival of the last class = and I know things can change up to the last minute. Don't worry, the staff there is great!

[NYjf12]

Can everyone going to Newcastle in January please tell me, if you remember, how many working days or regular days it took to get the visa after sending the application?
I sent it and only have 6 working days to get it and the hotline said 5-10.
I really appreciate the help.
Thanks.

[Jeff4u2]

i found out my room assignment. i had to email someone and they told me who my roomate was and where my room would be.


Can everyone going to Newcastle in January please tell me, if you remember, how many working days or regular days it took to get the visa after sending the application?
I sent it and only have 6 working days to get it and the hotline said 5-10.
I really appreciate the help.
Thanks.

yeah, i sent it in on a thursday overnight and i got an email from them the following friday that the visa was approved. So that's 8 days that it was approved in. They said they were shipping it overnight back so I ended up getting the passport with all my documents back on the following monday. sooooo what is that total, like 11 days?

how many days has it been so far? i think you'll be good if you sent it in like a week ago.

[jelaeris]

Does anybody know if you can practice medicine in UK after you graduate from SGU-GSP?

Thanks! :D

[Vista]

Hey Guys,

I have a dilemma on my hands. I got accepted to Ross, Aug 09 option and SGU's Global Scholar's Program for Aug 09 as well.

Now I've read that the SGU's GSP program is having a hard time getting an accreditation in Calif. and NJ but SGU still has the most clinical sites across the States.

I've also read that Ross is having a clinical shortage.

As a Canadian, what would you guys suggest. the Regular 4 years at Ross or take my chances with the SGU GSP program. I'm leaning towards SGU but you guys know way more than me..

[coralis]

Hey Guys,

I have a dilemma on my hands. I got accepted to Ross, Aug 09 option and SGU's Global Scholar's Program for Aug 09 as well.

Now I've read that the SGU's GSP program is having a hard time getting an accreditation in Calif. and NJ but SGU still has the most clinical sites across the States.

I've also read that Ross is having a clinical shortage.

As a Canadian, what would you guys suggest. the Regular 4 years at Ross or take my chances with the SGU GSP program. I'm leaning towards SGU but you guys know way more than me..

VISTA!!!! I am in the same boat...KINDA....not accepted yet :P ...but had interviews and I am optimistic...I am also Canadian.....how to solve this dilemma??!!! ANy other info you found? Is it really a concern for us though? No Cali, no cali soooooo.....I wan't to come back to canada....anyways

[crazydaisy]

i was in the same boat, and i chose SGU august option (not GSP)
i'm also canadian and want to come back, but its pretty challenging/competitive to come back and just in case it takes me longer than anticipated, i didnt feel comfortable cutting out two states (cali and NJ) before even starting in med school...like i didn't wanna narrow my options by cutting out two huge states from the get-go....hope that helps but thats how i made my decision...good luck!

[BryantUM]

Do the issues that have to do with California and NJ mean that it may not be possible to do clinicals in these states? Or does it mean students can't do residency in these states? Or does it mean that students can't get licensed to practice in these states after they graduate? Thank you for clarifying.

[Reilly]

Do the issues that have to do with California and NJ mean that it may not be possible to do clinicals in these states? Or does it mean students can't do residency in these states? Or does it mean that students can't get licensed to practice in these states after they graduate? Thank you for clarifying.

As of now, no clinicals or residency in CA or NJ. There are no problems with getting licensed in NJ. No licensing in Ca yet. Last word was CA was supposively about to get it reviewed and determine if a site visit was necessary, but this was at least 4 months ago. We haven't been updated so most likely things haven't progressed yet.

[coralis]

As of now, no clinicals or residency in CA or NJ. There are no problems with getting licensed in NJ. No licensing in Ca yet. Last word was CA was supposively about to get it reviewed and determine if a site visit was necessary, but this was at least 4 months ago. We haven't been updated so most likely things haven't progressed yet.

I was under the impression you can do clinicals in NJ, just not your residency

[Blue89]

I was under the impression you can do clinicals in NJ, just not your residency

What we were told was that the school has decided not to place GSP students in NJ for clinical rotations until they get a response from the NJ medical board. They didn't want to risk offending the powers-that-be until NJ responds.

[Kongakut]

Do the issues that have to do with California and NJ mean that it may not be possible to do clinicals in these states? Or does it mean students can't do residency in these states? Or does it mean that students can't get licensed to practice in these states after they graduate? Thank you for clarifying.

Like the other posters said, you can not get licensed in Cali but also in any state that has adopted the Cali list or will adopt it in the future. I haven't check in a while but the number of states that adopted the Cali list was increasing (maybe around 12 now). Please check with the state medical board of the state you want to practice in before you enter the GSP program.

[AvoidTheTiger]

Hey,

Just a quick question. I applied to SGU and no other Caribbean school. I am under the impression that Ross and other Caribbean schools [not SGU] only has you as a license doctor in like US, Canada, and a few other countries - whereas SGU is 35+. I realize many people are considered about the GSP program because you can't practice in Nj/Cali [why i didn't apply] but I am hoping to be a world traveler... so I don't want to limit myself by going to Ross.

Any thoughts on this? Am I mistaken and Ross allows you to practice in more countries. Sorry if this is posted in the wrong place... just curious why people debat Ross over KBTGSP, when both seem as limiting.

[BryantUM]

Any snow in Newcastle?

[coralis]

Does anybody know if you can practice medicine in UK after you graduate from SGU-GSP?

Thanks! :D

Hey jelaeris,

To answer your question about practicing in the UK after the GSP program. The answer is NO....I am a European citizen and inquired about that, the dean of admissions told me that to be eligible to sit for the PLAB you have to have attended the medical school that granted your diploma for a minimum of 2 years in the country of it's origin!!!! So, in essence you have more chances of practicing in the UK if you go to Grenada, BUT if you go to the UK for the GSP program you will definetely NOT be able to practice there...silly eh?

[aust0042]

Any snow in Newcastle?

When I was there it snowed maybe 5 times (in a year). Never stuck on the ground for more than 1/2 a day & never more than an inch.

[BryantUM]

I called the New Jersey Medical Board and California Board 2 days ago to try and find out some updated information about GSP since there didn't seem to be any validated answers about the issues. The New Jersey Board told me that they do not approve or disapprove individual schools but rather does so on an individual person basis. Normally they require that a student completes both years of basic science within the country of the schools jurisdiction which would be Grenada for SGU. Since GSP completes the first year in Newcastle, this is out of their jurisdiction. It was said that there was no ruling YET but that to do GSP you would be jeapordizing doing CLINICALS/RESIDENCY in NJ. This being said, they have not yet ruled that you cannot do either clinicals or residency in NJ but as of now it would make sense to avoid it until a ruling is made. Also, it is very likely that if you do your clinicals/residency in another state, you could apply to be licensed in NJ because it is done on a case by case basis, and you would have an argument that you must have learned something-for example you would have passed the Steps and completed residency etc. In short, not yet abale to do clinicals or residency, but high probability of being licensed in NJ.

For California, the process is currently under review and there is no ruling yet, however they were hopeful that it could be completed by MAY, no guarantee but they said they were hopeful for that date. As far as the ruling being retroactive or not, I was told there was a good chance that it WOULD be retroactive. The reason was that the program has been in existence for such a short time and no major changes have been made to the curriculum. The example of why it wouldn't be retroactive is that if a school was active for say 10 years and then applied for approval it would have most likely made major changes to its curriculum, and they wouldn't be able to make it retroactive since too much had been changed. For GSP scenario, no major changes had been made and its existence is very short. They also mentioned that they have a good rapport with SGU since they have been around for so long and they were hopeful this would be worked out.
Granted all of this is certainly not FINAL but it paints a much better picture than what a lot of previous posts had said. Anyone currently in GSP heard anymore current news or anything that would contradict what I was told?

[jkc]

Hi everyone, I was accepted into the august 09 GSP program. I want to get in touch with all of you through MSN messaging or email. My MSN/email is spacezero(at)live.com (i can't put an email addy here so I just used a code)

Feel free to contact me, I'd like to share many thoughts and questions. Preferably provide a brief intro, like your age, sex, where you are from, undergrad major, etc.

I'm 25, male, NY, chemistry.

[dynamitedan14]

Just got into the GSP fpr august but IDK if im gonna do it

I would LOVE to study in England for a year, but SGU is SOOOO much $ & idk if i want to be around 300,000$ in debt after i graduate (factoring in living expenses, interest, taxes, ect), not to mention the $ i owe from undergrad

This is a reallly hard choice because its england :?

[Blue89]

Just got into the GSP fpr august but IDK if im gonna do it

I would LOVE to study in England for a year, but SGU is SOOOO much $ & idk if i want to be around 300,000$ in debt after i graduate (factoring in living expenses, interest, taxes, ect), not to mention the $ i owe from undergrad

This is a reallly hard choice because its england :?

Are you choosing between GSP vs. another school? Or GSP vs. nothing? Your debts won't be significantly different if you went to GSP or spent two years on Grenada.

[BryantUM]

Any recommendations about which is the best housing in Newcastle?

[WannaBdoc25]

It seems like it might be harder to concentrate in england as apposed to Grenada. In england, I would want to go out and experience it.

[akebaje]

It seems like it might be harder to concentrate in england as apposed to Grenada. In england, I would want to go out and experience it.

It's hard to concentrate anywhere.

trust me, WHEREVER you are, even if it is "Las Vegas School of Medicine", when push comes to shove and you need to study, all form of distractions vanishes!
Been in NCL now (3 weeks to go) and haven't been around that much except those little weekend breaks :(

[TheDoctor]

It seems like it might be harder to concentrate in england as apposed to Grenada. In england, I would want to go out and experience it.

You don't want to go out and experience Grenada? I got my SCUBA licence, fed some monkeys, hiked in the rainforest, did some hashes...etc, etc... I even ate some Oil Down (some kind of Grenadian dish that I barely remember cause there was rum involved).

[coralis]

You don't want to go out and experience Grenada? I got my SCUBA licence, fed some monkeys, hiked in the rainforest, did some hashes...etc, etc... I even ate some Oil Down (some kind of Grenadian dish that I barely remember cause there was rum involved).

Hahahah....definitely wanna do 3/5 ... scuba, the monkey things and hiking :p how does one go about finding these places? Random school postings, word of mouth?

[TheDoctor]

Pretty much and I'm sure the cool things to do in newcastle are staring to spread around in this manner as well.

[GregoryHouseMD]

Hey if you have recently decided to enroll at SGU and specifically as part of the KBTGSP, please feel free to contact me with any questions you may have... also in regards to housing what the school offers is overpriced and there are better options... please feel free to contact if you interested if finding out more about the program, housing, and SGU in general.
Cheers

[nurs182]

Im looking for a roommate for August 09 at Newcastle. Most apartments i found are really nice. 550-700 pounds/month, mostly two rooms and two bathrooms. Preferably female and doesn't mind my pet... Please pm me if interested. I guess i need to post on the classified section.

[seditio]

Hey if you have recently decided to enroll at SGU and specifically as part of the KBTGSP, please feel free to contact me with any questions you may have... also in regards to housing what the school offers is overpriced and there are better options... please feel free to contact if you interested if finding out more about the program, housing, and SGU in general.
Cheers


Same here guys, I'm a term 2 here in Newcastle and I'll be here all summer. So as dr house here said, the student accommodations are pure balls and if you can you should look into housing elsewhere, unless you dig the undergrad freshman dorms thing.

Also, there is a billion things to do here in Newcastle and you're a hour from Scotland and there is an inane amount of stuff to see is within walking distance from the school.


So feel free to toss me a message and I'll do my best to answer any questions you might have! KBTGSP is the way to go!

[SentInternationalMD]

Same here guys, I'm a term 2 here in Newcastle and I'll be here all summer. So as dr house here said, the student accommodations are pure balls and if you can you should look into housing elsewhere, unless you dig the undergrad freshman dorms thing.

Also, there is a billion things to do here in Newcastle and you're a hour from Scotland and there is an inane amount of stuff to see is within walking distance from the school.


So feel free to toss me a message and I'll do my best to answer any questions you might have! KBTGSP is the way to go!
Hiya! I'm been invited for an interview (Praise GOD!)
I've also applied for the Global Scholars Program. I have a quick question: When you first interviewed, did they interview you specifically for the Global Scholars program or was it just a general interview??

Also, can you tell me about the financial aid situation for the program. (I understand U.S. students can't apply for Stafford loans so do they give out private scholarships?)..

Thanks a bunch!

[SentInternationalMD]

Hey if you have recently decided to enroll at SGU and specifically as part of the KBTGSP, please feel free to contact me with any questions you may have... also in regards to housing what the school offers is overpriced and there are better options... please feel free to contact if you interested if finding out more about the program, housing, and SGU in general.
Cheers


Hiya! I'm been invited for an interview (Praise GOD!)
I've applied for the Global Scholars Program. I have a quick question: When you first interviewed, did they interview you specifically for the Global Scholars program or was it just a general interview??

Also, can you tell me about the financial aid situation for the program? I understand U.S. students can't apply for Stafford loans, right. So did you have to apply for private scholarships, or are there specific scholarship available for GSP scholars.

Thanks a bunch!

[SentInternationalMD]

Hey Guys,

I have a dilemma on my hands. I got accepted to Ross, Aug 09 option and SGU's Global Scholar's Program for Aug 09 as well.

Now I've read that the SGU's GSP program is having a hard time getting an accreditation in Calif. and NJ but SGU still has the most clinical sites across the States.

I've also read that Ross is having a clinical shortage.

As a Canadian, what would you guys suggest. the Regular 4 years at Ross or take my chances with the SGU GSP program. I'm leaning towards SGU but you guys know way more than me..


SGU all the wayyyy! :cool:

[Canadian45]

Hi GregoryHouseMD and Seditio,

I have been accepted into the GSP program for August 2009. I do have family all over England and am wandering if being able to stay with family in Newcastle is sufficient for special permission for off campus housing?

Also, what is the academic calendar for the terms start and finish for the year in England?

Thank you so much,

Canadian:)

[GregoryHouseMD]

Canadian45,
first of call Congrats! Hope you're excited.
In regards to housing... there is nothing that the school does to restrict you from living off campus, you just have to let them know, especially in regards to getting your visa information correct. ie you can live with family and realisitcally anywhere else you want... which in reality is much better than the "on campus" options of kirkley lodge and parrish court. Most people end up at one of these two place due a lack of informaiton a. in regards to other options and b. real information regarding the options the school provides.
in regards to the schedule... here are the key dates that pretain to you...(all this can be found on the school website under schools, som, medical sciences, term calender)
Term Entry 2009Fall 2009
17 weeks: First Day Aug. 17, 2009 Exam Dec. 11, 2009
Term 2
18 weeks:First Day Jan. 11, 2010 Last Exam May 14, 2010
Term 3
6 weeks: First Day June 18, 2010 Last Exam Aug. 9, 2010
Term 4
18 weeks: First Day Aug. 10, 2010 Last exam date not available to som error but should be about mid Dec.
Term 5
6 weeks :First Day Jan. 10, 2011 Last Exam Feb. 18, 2011
Term 6
12 weeks: First Day Feb. 21, 2011 Last Exam May 13, 2011

please feel free to forward or post any other questions you may have as august approaches, but once again congrats and good luck!

[Canadian45]

Thanks so much GregoryHouse!

That was my first post on this site and I'm glad I got a great response. I am very excited, its been such a long road for me.

I know that the GSP program is relatively new, but I believe in its potential and strength because the world is getting more and more globalized, and we should always look to increase intercultural communication. That is why I really liked this program, and in regards to the California situation, the program's vision is for MD's to work in developing counties and be international doctors.

The term calender I got in the application was a bit confusing....

Thanks again,

Canadian45

[Geek]

Same here guys, I'm a term 2 here in Newcastle and I'll be here all summer. So as dr house here said, the student accommodations are pure balls and if you can you should look into housing elsewhere, unless you dig the undergrad freshman dorms thing.

Also, there is a billion things to do here in Newcastle and you're a hour from Scotland and there is an inane amount of stuff to see is within walking distance from the school.


So feel free to toss me a message and I'll do my best to answer any questions you might have! KBTGSP is the way to go!

What's the campus area like?

[Geek]

Just got into the GSP fpr august but IDK if im gonna do it

I would LOVE to study in England for a year, but SGU is SOOOO much $ & idk if i want to be around 300,000$ in debt after i graduate (factoring in living expenses, interest, taxes, ect), not to mention the $ i owe from undergrad

This is a reallly hard choice because its england :?

What would be the financial discrepancy between going to Newcastle for a year as opposed to Grenada?

[aust0042]

What would be the financial discrepancy between going to Newcastle for a year as opposed to Grenada?
Tuition/fees would be identical. I think cost of living is similar, but some other former GSPers feel GND is more expensive. The difference would be in the loan packages, you would need to secure private loans for a much larger chunk for the first year in the UK.

[Blue89]

Tuition/fees would be identical. I think cost of living is similar, but some other former GSPers feel GND is more expensive. The difference would be in the loan packages, you would need to secure private loans for a much larger chunk for the first year in the UK.

Much larger chunk = 100% All of the UK year needs to be private loans. Unless they recently approved it for federal loans.

UK was less expensive than GND for me...and that was with a much higher exchange rate than the current rate.

[bitterMS2]

nevermind...........

[TheDoctor]

-off topic...apologies, but i need to vent-

so i did the KBTGSP in Newcastle....and it wasn't so bad...except for the HORRIBLE school housing (the internet never worked).
i don't have anywhere "back home" to go to....so after this term ended, i naturally came to Grenada. the school said to get here by the end of June. yes, i'm early. i'm also broke. Fortunately, the campus is EMPTY (read: many, many vacant dorms). Unfrotunately, the housing department sucks butt, and will not allow me to sleep on campus. with no funds at my disposal (financial aid checks don't get cut untill after the summer semester starts) i'm not sure what to do.

So here i sit in Founder's Library....wondering where i'm going to sleep tonight....wondering how snuggly i can fit the remainder of my meager cash in my underware....wondering what my chances of getting robbed are....wondering what the legality of sleeping in public is....

This is what 60K/year will get you. Thanks SGU.

oh.... if you guys want good housing in Newcastle, drop me a line.

Go to the Dean of Students office and ask for help.

[bitterMS2]

theDoctor,

thanks.... the school has since quickly rectified the situation. all is right with the universe.

thanks.

[GregoryHouseMD]

theDoctor,

thanks.... the school has since quickly rectified the situation. all is right with the universe.

thanks.

seriously!
hope Grenada is treating you though it must be abandoned... hope egypt was awesome...

[FluidicMonkey]

Much larger chunk = 100% All of the UK year needs to be private loans. Unless they recently approved it for federal loans.

UK was less expensive than GND for me...and that was with a much higher exchange rate than the current rate.

Would US student be able to apply for the US Stafford Loans after the UK year?

[TerrifyingTidbit]

Any news on California for Newcastle students?

[FluidicMonkey]

Any news on California for Newcastle students?

I spoke to an associate dean yesterday and he said that California currently has the program under review. But even if it is approved, he doesn't know if they will retroactively approve students currently in the program. But he did reiterate that the program follows LCME standards, so he would hope that they do when it is approved, but he said he cant make guarantees on what California's judgment with regards to retroactive approval would be.

[bitterMS2]

canadian,

you want to live in City Center if you go to Newcastle. trust me, your life will
be drastically better than if you live in further away from the school. the suburbs are not like those in N. America, where there's a trade-off between action/convenience and peace/security.
the GSP was very enjoyable for me. life in the CITY of Newcastle is great...just don't leave it (except to go to the coast or the parks).

[aust0042]

Would US student be able to apply for the US Stafford Loans after the UK year?
Yes, stafford loan eligible for years 2-4.

[Simplynues]

Hey if you have recently decided to enroll at SGU and specifically as part of the KBTGSP, please feel free to contact me with any questions you may have... also in regards to housing what the school offers is overpriced and there are better options... please feel free to contact if you interested if finding out more about the program, housing, and SGU in general.
Cheers

Hi
i just got accepted to SGU GSP program, so I am looking for housing. Please let me know what info u have.

[Simplynues]

Are u still looking for someone? I am interested, moving from Baltimore

[Simplynues]

Im looking for a roommate for August 09 at Newcastle. Most apartments i found are really nice. 550-700 pounds/month, mostly two rooms and two bathrooms. Preferably female and doesn't mind my pet... Please pm me if interested. I guess i need to post on the classified section.

Are u still looking for a roommate? I am interested, just got accepted.

[FluidicMonkey]

Yes, stafford loan eligible for years 2-4.

Yeah, I was able to find that out from skimming the SGU site, but thank you for the input.

[FluidicMonkey]

For those already in or have attended the Newcastle program, were you guys able to find time to enjoy the city? I know everyone here puts studying as their top priority, but I was wondering how you guys were able to ration your free time.

[Blue89]

We had a chance to explore New Castle... and the rest of the UK and Europe. Edinburgh is a three hour drive from New Castle and there are really inexpensive flights to Ireland, and the rest of Europe. Almost everyone took at least a couple of trips to other countries while in New Castle and still managed to make it to second year.

[Michelle918]

Hi everyone~ I'll be in Newcastle this August also. Is it better to just stick with the SGU housing for the first term, so that I can get to know the other first term students? Or does it not really matter where you live? If it doesn't matter, I would like to live off-campus in a nicer apt that's closer to campus.

[aust0042]

Hi everyone~ I'll be in Newcastle this August also. Is it better to just stick with the SGU housing for the first term, so that I can get to know the other first term students? Or does it not really matter where you live? If it doesn't matter, I would like to live off-campus in a nicer apt that's closer to campus.

I really liked living w/in walking distance of campus as opposed to having to worry about when the last metro ran.

[GregoryHouseMD]

FluidicMonkey,
First of all congrats. let me be the first to welcome you to SGU KBTGSP its a great opportunity, not only to study medicine but also to travel and explore different cultures. My recommendations in regards to housing are as follows... don't live in the SGU recommended "on campus" housing if you can avoid it... there are a lot better options out there in newcastle that are cheaper (if not the same price), better, and a lot closer to campus... please let me know if you're having trouble finding a place i highly recommend the place i lived at the landlord/management company is very understanding and very good about meeting out needs... plus the place (Sunlight Chambers 2-4 Bigg Market Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 1UW) is a quick walk from EVERYTHING even school.

[GregoryHouseMD]

Michelle918,
see the above post... and definately live "off campus" the housing options that the school really provides is subpar with the price versus accomodations ... and as mentioned its always better to walk from your place of living to school rather than buying a metro pass and not to mention worry about it the metro is behind schedule or when it is when your trying to get to class or more importantly anatomy lab...
also congrats!
Hi everyone~ I'll be in Newcastle this August also. Is it better to just stick with the SGU housing for the first term, so that I can get to know the other first term students? Or does it not really matter where you live? If it doesn't matter, I would like to live off-campus in a nicer apt that's closer to campus.

[GregoryHouseMD]

FluidicMonkey,
absolutely you can wander the city in your free time easily, there are perks to being in England, your close to a multitude of great destinations. Granted you won't have the opportunity to go to many places during the week but if you plan out your escapes form the books you should be able to enjoy many treasure that europe has to offer... local attractions include the castle from the Harry Potter movies, Hadrian's wall, Durham, gateshead (with the blinking eye bridge), not to mention Newcastle United football games... but you can also wander after midterms and finals to places such as dublin, barcelona, etc... the sky and wallet are the limits...
please feel free to ask any other question you may have in regards to the program... and good luck preparing for Newcastle.
For those already in or have attended the Newcastle program, were you guys able to find time to enjoy the city? I know everyone here puts studying as their top priority, but I was wondering how you guys were able to ration your free time.

[bitterMS2]

free time? you can make a lot of it, depending on how much studying you can handle at once. it seems like most people took a couple of breaks durring the semester to travel....some people took lots of breaks and still somehow progressed to Grenada. there will also be a few long weekends.
why not study your netter's flashcards and memorize some stuff right away...then you can guilt free travel durring the first week.

[seditio]

I cannot stress enough how horrid the housing provided by the school is. I moved out of it 2/3 of the way through the Term. I currently live down on the quay side, in the heart of the city and love it! With the little free time you'll have, planning get aways or just hitting a few of the pubs is quite easy, though especially 1st term, you'll be busy as all get out. If you need help finding places here just send me a pm and i'll gladly help anyone out with finding places.

[FluidicMonkey]

FluidicMonkey,
First of all congrats. let me be the first to welcome you to SGU KBTGSP its a great opportunity, not only to study medicine but also to travel and explore different cultures. My recommendations in regards to housing are as follows... don't live in the SGU recommended "on campus" housing if you can avoid it... there are a lot better options out there in newcastle that are cheaper (if not the same price), better, and a lot closer to campus... please let me know if you're having trouble finding a place i highly recommend the place i lived at the landlord/management company is very understanding and very good about meeting out needs... plus the place (Sunlight Chambers 2-4 Bigg Market Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 1UW) is a quick walk from EVERYTHING even school.

I'm definitely in the dark when it comes to the housing around there and would very much appreciate any specific information with regards to the housing. Also, thank you for the advice about planning my downtime, I definitely plan on doing a bunch of those suggestions.

[uncultured]

I'm the same about housing--at first when I got my packet I thought Kirkley/Parrish WERE private dorms and that they just had a sort of informal connection with the school like a lot of college town apartment complexes do in the US...but since the housing is over-expensive/decrepit/etc, I'd much rather live off-campus and in-town. Is there a place you can recommend where there are a decent number of students living from SGU? I'd hate to end up off in some random building with no one but middle-aged business people for company! (They probably wouldn't help me study anatomy, anyway...)

[GregoryHouseMD]

Uncultured,
Id recommend either Sunlight chambers or 55 degrees... please contact me if you'd like more information.
cheers
I'm the same about housing--at first when I got my packet I thought Kirkley/Parrish WERE private dorms and that they just had a sort of informal connection with the school like a lot of college town apartment complexes do in the US...but since the housing is over-expensive/decrepit/etc, I'd much rather live off-campus and in-town. Is there a place you can recommend where there are a decent number of students living from SGU? I'd hate to end up off in some random building with no one but middle-aged business people for company! (They probably wouldn't help me study anatomy, anyway...)

[Natalisa]

Hey everyone,

I'll be going to Newcastle this August and I was wondering if anyone had any insight on how best to get prescriptions you take every month here in the UK?

Also anyone have advice on the best way to get a phone in the UK??

Thanks:D Can't wait to meet yall!!

[this is my user name]

hi everyone,

i found out i got into the program in the uk for aug 09. does anyone have any suggestions for housing?

thanks!

[uncultured]

Hi House--

My quota for messages isn't high enough for me to PM yet so I'll just do it here--I google mapped sunlight chambers (god bless Street View), looks nice, but I suppose after living in a town full of nothing but 6-month old apartment complexes anything with actual history is appealing.

Is there a website or something where I can read about the costs, amenities, etc? The only thing I could find was a Knight-Frank realty office listing the place for £45,000 P.A. which seems a bit heavy to me.

If not, feel free to PM me with the details. If any of you other 8/09 GSP people are interested, let me know. Not sure if I can receive PMs or not, if not just post a message. I'm a guy, but I doubt having female roommates is much different than having female neighbors in a dorm, so I'm not opposed to the idea.

[uncultured]

Natalisa--

Based on what I've been able to track down, as student visa holders we have access to the NHS plan, where all scrips are something like £6.45. Oh socialized medicine--so wacky...Anyway, I'm gonna see if I can't just get a four month supply of meds and just take them with me. Best also to have a note from a doctor on official stationary saying "XYZ is under my care and I am treating her with 20mg of ABC", especially if it's a controlled substance...Don't want customs to get the wrong idea, I guess. Not that you couldn't just see a doc in Newcastle, but they might have very different ideas about treating whatever you're taking the Rx for, and a note from an american MD saying "I treat her thusly" might not fly. Of course for stuff like birth control it's no big deal--they even mention it specifically in the orientation packet as easy to get--but again if you like your own brand (sounds like a cigarette ad) you might wanna stuff a few extra packs in your bag.

Of course every country is different, but I'd as soon not worry about it, and just BYORx

For cell phones, I'm gonna try and buy in the US an unlocked GSM phone. GSM means your phone works more or less world wide. Unlocked means it's not associated with any one carrier, it's just the phone. So you go to England and buy what's called a SIM card. A SIM card is a chip that contains the phone's number, the carrier plan associated with it, etc. You pop out the phone's old SIM card--it's very easy, instructions are all over the internet--and slide in the new one. They're sorta like prepaid phone cards, you get so many minutes and can add more as you like. Also it's much cheaper to make international calls--and you pay either nothing or very little when people abroad call YOU. Again there are various SIM card plans available. I'm currently trying to find out how much an unlocked iphone 3G-S would run me....

[aust0042]

As far as cell phones are concerned, you will be amazed at how many different providers there are and numerous stores are a very short walk from Drill Hall (your main lecture hall). Most of the phones that work in the UK will also work in Grenada.

[GregoryHouseMD]

Natalisa,
Hope your looking forward to the year in newcastle. In regards to your questions:
for the prescriptions: you should bring at least a month's supply with you so you don't run out while you get settled in ncl. Once you get here you will need to register with the NHS (national health services) there is a GPs (where you go and register) right behind Drill Hall (where all the classes are held, so its a quick walk from the school to the GP), Just ask any term 2 when you get into town or during your walking tour of the city during orientation. The GP registration shouldn't take very long you have to fill out an applications (please don't forget to take your passport with you when you go) and then wait a couple days for your actual NHS card to come in the mail. as a followup you will also need to schedule an appointment with the GP so that they can say you are in health to be covered by the insurae. The beauty of being in england is the all the drs appointments are free... but precriptions cost 6-12 gbp, which can be picked up at one of the many drug stores (chemist) in the area [really if you any questions just ask the GP they can direct you
In regards to phones... if you have an unlocked GSM phone bring it with you as you will only need to get a sim card then, however if you were like me and don't have a GSM phone you can purchase one in ncl at one of the many stores on Northumberland Street (2 blocks from the school). Carphone Warehouse is a popular spot for all term 1s. *also look at the details when you sign up some offer great international deals while other offer great UK only deals. Also if you do have a GSM phone and aren't able to get it unlocked before going to england. there are actually 2 places within Granger Market that can unlock your phone for a fee of 5-10 gbps.
wish you all the best!

Hey everyone,

I'll be going to Newcastle this August and I was wondering if anyone had any insight on how best to get prescriptions you take every month here in the UK?

Also anyone have advice on the best way to get a phone in the UK??

Thanks:D Can't wait to meet yall!!

[GregoryHouseMD]

uncultured,
stupid quotas... anyway try e-mailing me at geojerATsguDOTedu
sorry had to spell it out since i haven't reached enough posts for including e-mails in my posts lol... alright hopefully i can help you find something.
cheers
Hi House--

My quota for messages isn't high enough for me to PM yet so I'll just do it here--I google mapped sunlight chambers (god bless Street View), looks nice, but I suppose after living in a town full of nothing but 6-month old apartment complexes anything with actual history is appealing.

Is there a website or something where I can read about the costs, amenities, etc? The only thing I could find was a Knight-Frank realty office listing the place for £45,000 P.A. which seems a bit heavy to me.

If not, feel free to PM me with the details. If any of you other 8/09 GSP people are interested, let me know. Not sure if I can receive PMs or not, if not just post a message. I'm a guy, but I doubt having female roommates is much different than having female neighbors in a dorm, so I'm not opposed to the idea.

[Icebreaker13]

Anyone going in August from the gta? pm me if you wanna get together or talk online to figure out housing info + visa info, traveling etc.

Thanks for all the help from ppl in this thread, its been a real lifesaver.

Anyone have any tips on what cell phone carrier they like best in the uk?

[this is my user name]

hi everyone

does anyone know if not living in the sgu dorms in the uk will affect your chances of getting housing through the school during the second year in grenada?

also, how far are the dorms from classes?

thanks!

[Reilly]

hi everyone

does anyone know if not living in the sgu dorms in the uk will affect your chances of getting housing through the school during the second year in grenada?

also, how far are the dorms from classes?

thanks!

GSP are guaranteed housing for term 3/4 in Grenada.

[this is my user name]

GSP are guaranteed housing for term 3/4 in Grenada.

ok, thanks!

[zephyr912]

Looks like I'll be in Newcastle this August!

Now I have to secure financial aid, housing, visas, and all that other important stuff in less than six weeks :/

[this is my user name]

i've read a lot of posts saying that the dorms are not so great. but, i was told by the school that students need to get permission to live off-campus. does anyone know how difficult this is? also, which of the two is more bearable?

thanks so much

[aust0042]

i've read a lot of posts saying that the dorms are not so great. but, i was told by the school that students need to get permission to live off-campus. does anyone know how difficult this is? also, which of the two is more bearable?

thanks so much

It is not difficult, I don't know of anyone who was refused. Just say you will be living w a significant other or relatives. or say you have or will be getting a pet.

[TerrifyingTidbit]

This Newcastle program sounds fantastic, except for this one little problem that it seems to limit your choices when you go stateside for clinicals and residency. :(

Based on what I'm reading here, SGU still hasn't resolved this problem with some of the states. Is this the case?

Gosh I wish it weren't so because I would love to take my family to England for a year--and we LOVE Scotland, too.

[thefriendlyotter]

I'm renting a fully furnished 3-bed home in Tynemouth. Very close to metro, ocean view, quiet. Beautiful area to spend time studying. I have a cat. Message me if you are interested in rooming together for the first term and I'll give you more details.
-Maria

[BryantUM]

Does anyone know where to buy a U.S to U.K. transformer and socket converter? Thanks

[md85in]

is anyone still trying to find a place to live near campus within walking distance? i'm still looking for a place/roommates for aug '09

[md85in]

Hi House--

My quota for messages isn't high enough for me to PM yet so I'll just do it here--I google mapped sunlight chambers (god bless Street View), looks nice, but I suppose after living in a town full of nothing but 6-month old apartment complexes anything with actual history is appealing.

Is there a website or something where I can read about the costs, amenities, etc? The only thing I could find was a Knight-Frank realty office listing the place for £45,000 P.A. which seems a bit heavy to me.

If not, feel free to PM me with the details. If any of you other 8/09 GSP people are interested, let me know. Not sure if I can receive PMs or not, if not just post a message. I'm a guy, but I doubt having female roommates is much different than having female neighbors in a dorm, so I'm not opposed to the idea.



I'm still looking for a roommate(s). let me know if you find anything

[avs1003]

How did you find apartments at Sunlight Chambers or 55 Degrees? Did you look online? And then you were able to sign a lease while in the US?

Also is it possible to take an iphone to the UK if its unlocked? What carrier can I get while I'm over there so that I will be able to use my iphone there?

[Michelle918]

How did you find apartments at Sunlight Chambers or 55 Degrees? Did you look online? And then you were able to sign a lease while in the US?

Also is it possible to take an iphone to the UK if its unlocked? What carrier can I get while I'm over there so that I will be able to use my iphone there?


I'm also looking for off-campus housing for this august - from what I hear sunlight chambers is where some of the SGU students live at.

26/female/NYC.

I don't know if anyone has tried to sign the lease while in the US? and I can't seem to find out how to even contact the rental office

please email me! mich.shin(at)gmail

[royhalladay]

I seem to be in the same situation as lots of you.

If anyone has more info about sunlight chambers, 55 degrees, or anywhere else in newcastle that is popular among SGU students, I would be very appreciative... we're running out of time!

thanks

roddy.davey(at)gmailDOTcom

[BCgal]

Hi Guys,

There's a Facebook group for first termers starting at SGU called:

SGU Global Scholars Program August 2009

Join it and there might be some good info there :)

Cheers

[this is my user name]

does anyone know how to get the academic calendar for the program? i wasn't able to find one online . . . thanks

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[this is my user name]

hi everyone

i wanted to pass along something i was told today by the office at sgu for any of you who have been looking for housing like i've been: all freshmen are required to live in sgu housing for the first term.

[coralis]

hi everyone

i wanted to pass along something i was told today by the office at sgu for any of you who have been looking for housing like i've been: all freshmen are required to live in sgu housing for the first term.

unless you are married, or have a pet or, or.... :p

[prmed]

Are you only able to apply to GSP/Newcastle/KeithBTaylor for the entering August term or can you apply for a January term like SGU Greneda? Sorry if this has been asked before, I've tried searching but have not come up with nothing.

[this is my user name]

unless you are married, or have a pet or, or.... :p

when i mentioned this, i was told that "that sort of claim will be thoroughly checked out" because students getting permission to live off-campus in recent terms "was getting out of hand."

[coralis]

when i mentioned this, i was told that "that sort of claim will be thoroughly checked out" because students getting permission to live off-campus in recent terms "was getting out of hand."

oh well... I do have a pet so I wouldn`t know about the sort of... what I meant by ''or, or'' was that there several types of special situations that one could request off-campus housing for; ex: family in Newcastle or close-by etc

[zephyr912]

Are you only able to apply to GSP/Newcastle/KeithBTaylor for the entering August term or can you apply for a January term like SGU Greneda? Sorry if this has been asked before, I've tried searching but have not come up with nothing.

You can apply for January's class too.

[Natalisa]

Thanks for your suggestions! Any word on dental care in NCL; my six month check-up is in September and I'm wondering if it's fine to just do it in the UK or try and get my dentist here to check me out a little early. Thanks!

[prmed]

You can apply for January's class too.


Thank you zephyr, you just made my day! =D

[zephyr912]

hey everyone... just wondering, how long did it take to receive your visa letter from Northumbria? I sent in my deposit a week ago and my counselor said that they still haven't received my visa letter. I get that this is a busy time and all, but this is the only thing holding me back... I've already begun making arrangements to meet with the UK consulate sometime next week, but if I don't get this letter soon I'm totally SOL :(

[this is my user name]

hey everyone... just wondering, how long did it take to receive your visa letter from Northumbria? I sent in my deposit a week ago and my counselor said that they still haven't received my visa letter. I get that this is a busy time and all, but this is the only thing holding me back... I've already begun making arrangements to meet with the UK consulate sometime next week, but if I don't get this letter soon I'm totally SOL :(

i'm still waiting for my visa letter as well. i was told a variety of things last week, ranging from "the letter has been mailed via overnight" to "a request for your letter has been submitted". so, i'm not sure where my letter is, but i am rather panicked about the fact that it is almost july 15 and i don't yet have it.

[greatego]

I have question.
Which one will be shorter (less money)?
Jan 2010 Grenada
or Aug 2009 UK

Also, I talked with one of the admission commitee
and he said that one in the UK is looking good to get
approved by Cali by end of this month.

[zephyr912]

Just received an e-mail with an update on the CA issue:

California: We have received the report of the medical education expert, engaged by the Medical Board of California to review the KBTGSP. We are happy to report that the review of this medical education expert is positive, recommending that the Board recognize the KBTGSP retroactively to is inception in January, 2007. We expect the Board to consider this recommendation within the month and will promptly report news of any action taken by the Board as soon as it is made available to SGUSOM.