AUC Alumni and Students, please help!

[ritzcracker786]

Hi,

I'm a current Texas Resident, and plan on applying to AUC, as it seemed the best choice out tof the "Big 3" (Ross, and SGU)

I was just wondering if its possible to do all required rotations at the Florida or New Mexico sites?

In addition, were any of you able to do electives in Texas without hassle?

and get residency in Texas? I hope to be a cardiovascular surgeon, so my ultimate goal is to do residency at THI or Baylor (Debakey).

Thanks for all the help!

[georgelucas45]

If that's your ultimate goal, maybe you should do a post-bac and try to get into a US school... just my 2 cents.

[Skipper]

If you are limiting yourself to places to do residency....then I would stay stateside and keep trying to get into a Texas School with affiliation with those two hospitals you mentioned

skipper

[gellerf]

You have to do all of your 3rd year rotations at AUC affiliated sites. I dont think any foreign school will have texas sites any time soon, and new mexico does not have that many ACGME accredited hospitals that it can accomodate foreign students for core rotations.

YOu can you rotations in your 4th year at texas hospitals, and there have been students that have done them. As to New Mexico, they do allow foreign students at UNM for a few electives, but you must be a resident of NM.

[ds_in_tx]

Having setup some electives in Texas, here is the current official line from Texas med schools at this moment:

Baylor COM: Foreign OK, NO CARIBBEAN, $1000 application fee
Methodist Hosp Houston: Only Baylor/UT-Houston students
UT-Houston: Caribbean OK, $250 app fee/month
UTMB: Only affiliated IMGs (one school in Mexico, and two schools in Egypt)
Texas Tech: No Foreign at all (even though they are IMG friendly for residency)
A&M: Foreign only with special permission from the Dean
UT-Southwestern: Caribbean OK, $50 app fee, rotations fill up quickly (heard it's a nice place to rotate if you can get in, they treat you like like a proper med student)
UTSA: Caribbean OK, requires Neuro and Family as cores before you can rotate, $25 app fee.

If you live in Dallas, LSU Shreveport is a nice alternative and is very AUC friendly.

Getting rotations is a hassle, but doable.

[spitfire5454]

im moving to texas this weekend to start my 4th year. My entire 4 year (except 4 weeks) is in texas.

Spohn corpus christi: Family Medicine
Driscoll childrens corpus christi: Peds anesthesia
UTSA: Anesthesia
UTSW: Neuro and rhuemetology
UTH: PM&R and sleep medicine

Residency and licensing isnt a problem at all. Trying to get your electives down here sucks. And its getting harder. Two of the places im going to no longer take us. They let me because they had already approved me before the change took place. Also, just because the school/site will take you, doesnt mean the department in which you want to apply to will. I found this to be true most of the time. Each department (anest, IM, etc) has there own requirements. For example, i could not find a rads rotation in the entire state, even at sites where im doing other rotations, b/c all the rads depts had a no img policy. Just contact the department and prepare for a lot of "im sorry, we dont take caribbean students" The only one that was easy to set up was UTH.

[Phospholipid]

im moving to texas this weekend to start my 4th year. My entire 4 year (except 4 weeks) is in texas.

Spohn corpus christi: Family Medicine
Driscoll childrens corpus christi: Peds anesthesia
UTSA: Anesthesia
UTSW: Neuro and rhuemetology
UTH: PM&R and sleep medicine

Residency and licensing isnt a problem at all. Trying to get your electives down here sucks. And its getting harder. Two of the places im going to no longer take us. They let me because they had already approved me before the change took place. Also, just because the school/site will take you, doesnt mean the department in which you want to apply to will. I found this to be true most of the time. Each department (anest, IM, etc) has there own requirements. For example, i could not find a rads rotation in the entire state, even at sites where im doing other rotations, b/c all the rads depts had a no img policy. Just contact the department and prepare for a lot of "im sorry, we dont take caribbean students" The only one that was easy to set up was UTH.

Which of the twop laces has changed their policy? Does UTH mean UT Houston at Texas Medical Center? How soon should you try to schedule an elective? 3 months ahead? 4 months? Is it possible to do a Internal Medicine elective at UTSW, maybe cardiology? thanks

[kemper6036]

foreign ok but no caribbean? what's up with that?

[ds_in_tx]

Is it possible to do a Internal Medicine elective at UTSW, maybe cardiology? thanks

THe Department of Internal Medicine at UTSW changed their policy as of this academic year that they are no longer taking any visiting students, either US/LCME or Foreign, so unless that policy changes at some point in the future, no.

And yes UTH is UT-Houston med school (aka Memorial Hermann Hospital) in the Texas Med Center.

[ds_in_tx]

foreign ok but no caribbean? what's up with that?

Many institutions in Texas are of the opinion that US citizen Caribbean students/graduates are substandard. For example, there is a list (from the Texas Medical Board) of acceptable international medical schools whose graduates are eligible to get a full medical license in Texas and just about the only schools in the entire world not represented are Caribbean (except AUC, Ross, and SGU).

[TBL2008]

foreign ok but no caribbean? what's up with that?

You tell me my friend and we will both know. These sites make it up as they go along. Setting up these Texas electives has been a big pain. I have another site:

1. Baylor Medical Center of Garland: Family Medicine only and they prefer FM residency applicants. No application fee.
2. UT Tyler (FM program): Doesn't take FMGs at all.
3. Methodist Hospital of Dallas: Doesn't take FMG's at all.

[georgelucas45]

great information, keep it coming

[spitfire5454]

Which of the twop laces has changed their policy? Does UTH mean UT Houston at Texas Medical Center? How soon should you try to schedule an elective? 3 months ahead? 4 months? Is it possible to do a Internal Medicine elective at UTSW, maybe cardiology? thanks

I started doing the application process about 9 months ago. Its a long, SLOW, process. it also depends on the time of the year. i was applying for the following year and and they couldnt give me any dates until thier own students were all scheduled, which wouldnt happend for about 5 months. most of the time wpent waiting was trying to get the AUC to send them what they needed. But thats another thread. Oh yeah spohn memorial in corpus christi no longer takes us.

[TBL2008]

great information, keep it coming

In all honestly, I don't understand why people that did TX electives (or tried to do TX electives) have been such tightwads about the information. I posted on here many many times asking for this info in the past several years and no one would take the time. Hopefully some of those students that rotated at other TX sites (this year and last year) will also chime in for once. BTW, saying you rotated at UTSW is not a help because it's listed in the electives manual.

[rokshana]

In all honestly, I don't understand why people that did TX electives (or tried to do TX electives) have been such tightwads about the information. I posted on here many many times asking for this info in the past several years and no one would take the time.

or it just may be because when you asked, there weren't thaat many people DOING rotations in texas...it has gotten easier (though that is an understatement) to do rotations in texas now that there are caribbean schools on the tmb list.

BTW, saying you rotated at UTSW is not a help because it's listed in the electives manual.

and maybe its that attitude that has gotten you no responses....people will post uinfo and you have to decide if its valuable to you...others may have found that bit of info valuable.

and lets face it, getting a spot in texas is hard at best...while people may want to help their classmates, they are not going to do so if its gonna hurt their chances...you may hear from people who are already in residency in texas, but someone who is competing with you for those few texas spots isn't going to help you beat them out of it.