Tbilisi State Medical University, Georgia

[destiny96]

Hello all...
i am thinking of joining Tbilisi State Medical University, Tbilisi, Georgia, for masters program in Dentistry.....
Anyone studying there.... or anyone having knowledge about the place and the university....like the comments on lodging and fooding....living cost....anything would be greatly appreciated....

Destiny96....

[shrey]

If you don't mind me asking why Tbilisi when you can go to a better school?

[destiny96]

If you don't mind me asking why Tbilisi when you can go to a better school?
what are the other schools for masters in Dentistry...Gr.T.Popa University of Medicine and Pharmacy, Iasi, Romania is the other option.... which one would be better.
i am desperatley looking for the good universities in Europe ( which is affordable too) for my masters..

[destiny96]

Is Tbilisi not a good place? TSMU not a good University?

[shrey]

Well given the choice between Romania and Georgia, I would definitely choose Romania as it's a EU country which poses several advantages for you in the future. I would suggest that you look into the Central European Dentistry programs (ie. in Czech Republic, Poland or Hungary) or even Croatia (even though it's not part of the EU, it will be soon and it has very good ties with other universities in Europe and the US).

Tbilisi seems a bit shady to me because I recently checked out their site (after having read your post) and I saw their list of international partners and some of the universities they mentioned don't even have a medical faculty in them (like the Austrian University and Stranton in the US). So I wouldn't rely much on that. The best way is to only visit the place.

But like I said, I would definitely recommend that you look into the Central European schools and the Eastern European ones which are part of the EU (Romania and Bulgaria) and those that will be sooner or later (like Croatia). The central european schools of these 3 groups are quite expensive so you can omit that option if you want.

[destiny96]

Well given the choice between Romania and Georgia, I would definitely choose Romania as it's a EU country which poses several advantages for you in the future. I would suggest that you look into the Central European Dentistry programs (ie. in Czech Republic, Poland or Hungary) or even Croatia (even though it's not part of the EU, it will be soon and it has very good ties with other universities in Europe and the US).

Tbilisi seems a bit shady to me because I recently checked out their site (after having read your post) and I saw their list of international partners and some of the universities they mentioned don't even have a medical faculty in them (like the Austrian University and Stranton in the US). So I wouldn't rely much on that. The best way is to only visit the place.

But like I said, I would definitely recommend that you look into the Central European schools and the Eastern European ones which are part of the EU (Romania and Bulgaria) and those that will be sooner or later (like Croatia). The central european schools of these 3 groups are quite expensive so you can omit that option if you want.
well shrey,
thanks a lot for your valuable advice...it was indeed very helpfull to me. Can u suggest me some college/university in Eastern Europe ( romania/bulgaria) or in croatia. what about charles university in Prague. u are there.. u certainly have good ideas on that. what is the tuition fee for masters in there and the living expenses....
once again.... thank you for everything.
do i need to go through an agent to join Romanian university..... he is askin Euro 1500 as a service charge... or can i do it by myself.. do you have any idea...

[shrey]

Hey there, you're welcome :)

NO>>> NEVER JOIN THROUGH AN AGENT!!!! It's a waste of time and money and you don't get very many benefits. To be frank, the program at Charles University is quite good but it's also quite expensive.

But I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Masters"...does it mean you want to do a PhD. degree or an apprenticeship program/ residency followed by a fellowship? I can tell you more based on those details....

[humble]

hello to all!
can anyone help me in selecting college for post grad among romania nd tbilisi
i am an indian resident.

[destiny96]

Hey there, you're welcome :)

NO>>> NEVER JOIN THROUGH AN AGENT!!!! It's a waste of time and money and you don't get very many benefits. To be frank, the program at Charles University is quite good but it's also quite expensive.

But I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Masters"...does it mean you want to do a PhD. degree or an apprenticeship program/ residency followed by a fellowship? I can tell you more based on those details....
shrey,
you know what... i have mailed to the college number of times ... but not a single response.. i dont know.... they want us to come through an agent or what....what is the process for not going through an agent ...
i have completed Bachelors in Dentistry and now lookign for Postgraduate course... not a PhD degree.....there are different branches on dentistry to go for PG.....
you can call it a fellowhip.... ( well not sure about it.... ) .....
which county will be better option.. when considering the living cost too...

Destiny...:)

[shrey]

Hey there destiny96, the postgraduate course is Europe is usually referred to the Ph.D courses offered in English and Native language/s. What you're looking for is an apprenticeship which is sort of like a residency that one enters into and then later gets into a fellowship (where he/she specialized in one specific branch).

Regarding apprenticeship programs, they pay you enough to support yourself (but in some Eastern European countries, the pay is just too low). I would first recommend that you look in to Western European countries like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands, and France. These countries are all highly competitive and require you to write competitive exams to get into their programs.

I should also mention that if you are interested in doing an apprenticeship program or a fellowship, you have to have a very good command of the language as you will be communicating with patients on a daily basis. In fact the western European countries will go a step ahead and look at the standardized language proficiency exam that you've taken for that specific country.

Many universities offer a 10month - 1year courses for foreign medical graduates which incudes general conversational language + medical aspect of the language. Some courses are longer in length and the end of the course, you will need to take the proficiency test to prove your command of the language. Once this is over, then you have to compete for a spot in the apprenticeship programs with the rest of the graduates (and there is always a preference of EU graduates followed by those who've studied in an EU country or or European countries and finally the international medical graduates).

So as you can see, the process is quite hard and time-consuming but nevertheless do-able. But I wouldn't really recommend you to look into Easter European apprenticeship programs as they're really not well recognized and their pay is horrible and just not worth it.

[destiny96]

Hey there destiny96, the postgraduate course is Europe is usually referred to the Ph.D courses offered in English and Native language/s. What you're looking for is an apprenticeship which is sort of like a residency that one enters into and then later gets into a fellowship (where he/she specialized in one specific branch).

Regarding apprenticeship programs, they pay you enough to support yourself (but in some Eastern European countries, the pay is just too low). I would first recommend that you look in to Western European countries like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands, and France. These countries are all highly competitive and require you to write competitive exams to get into their programs.

I should also mention that if you are interested in doing an apprenticeship program or a fellowship, you have to have a very good command of the language as you will be communicating with patients on a daily basis. In fact the western European countries will go a step ahead and look at the standardized language proficiency exam that you've taken for that specific country.

Many universities offer a 10month - 1year courses for foreign medical graduates which incudes general conversational language + medical aspect of the language. Some courses are longer in length and the end of the course, you will need to take the proficiency test to prove your command of the language. Once this is over, then you have to compete for a spot in the apprenticeship programs with the rest of the graduates (and there is always a preference of EU graduates followed by those who've studied in an EU country or or European countries and finally the international medical graduates).

So as you can see, the process is quite hard and time-consuming but nevertheless do-able. But I wouldn't really recommend you to look into Easter European apprenticeship programs as they're really not well recognized and their pay is horrible and just not worth it.
and what if i opted to go for PhD degree... the degree that is well recognized... ??

[destiny96]

shrey,
can u tell me about the PhD program or fellowship in Dentistry in Charles University... like the recognization..... fee...... and the living cost in Prague.......
thanks again... for the information u have provided to me..

Destiny...

[shrey]

Hey destiny96,

You're welcome :). The Ph.D. program is only worth it if you want to get into a research career. If you want to get into the practical part of medicine, then this shouldn't really be your option. The fee is somewhere around 500 EUR a month. The course is 3 years long and is either in English or Czech (you can choose). There is an oral entrance exam held every year.

Unfortunately I'm not sure of the Dentistry Ph.D. programs but you can check out the following two sites and see the rest of the stuff:

Information for Applicants - 1st Faculty of Medicine (http://www.lf1.cuni.cz/article.asp?nArticleID=3554&nDepartmentID=224&nLanguageID=2&sAction=dep2)
Doctoral Studies at Charles University in Prague (http://ipc1.cuni.cz/phd/pages/081stm.htm)

Furthermore, in addition to the tuition fee, the living expenditure in Prague is all right. It's neither too expensive nor too cheap. Compared to the Western European countries, it's definitely much cheaper (it takes anywhere from a minimum of 350 euros to 500 EUR or more).

I would still only recommend you to try for an apprenticeship program in Western Europe because they are almost free and since the residency or program pays money, you can support yourself. The only barrier is language but if you try for the Scandinavian countries like Sweden or Norway, you can learn the language (and they give you out scholarships so you might just qualify for one).