Media Site

[Fox225]

Is there anyone else out there that is sick of waiting until 3pm to media site and then at 3 it is near impossible to media site because the campus internet is so slow due to everyone logging on at the same time.

Why does the administration feel they can determine the best way for everyone to study. I do not get nearly as much out of sitting in class as I do when I media site. I can not pause the lecture and look up terms and concepts, I have never heard before, I can not rewind when I miss something and I can’t replay the same word five times so I can finally make out the word the instructor said.

Where is the SGA on this one? How about you take some time from planning the next beach party and actually stand up for the students at Ross, for a change.

[jcu]

Eh, media site is a privilege quite honestly. I was and still am slightly peeved over the switch, but then I remind myself - oh, we're lucky in that we at least HAVE media site. Something like media site isn't a staple of every med school curriculum. Be grateful it was extended to 3 PM and wasn't taken away altogether.

[Mustango]

and I can’t replay the same word five times so I can finally make out the word the instructor said.




lol you do that too?

Yea, SGA has not really reported back on the whole issue. They were suppose to have a meeting to discuss about it.... but I have not heard anything from them.

This mediasite issue did affect my grades.

[Closter]

Well, actually, Semester 2 generally do very poorly on mini 1, while most report mini 2 being their best grade since they've been to ross.
This based on sample of 7 people :roll:
sorry:rolleyes:

[kryptik]

whys that?

[Closter]

-Over confidence from semester 1
-Too few question for too much material (a couple of mistake = one grade letter)
-Mini 1 material for certain courses(Neuro) can be overwhelming, while mini 2 have more clinical materials and is much easier to understand.
-No Anatomy lab test before mini = no pre-cram
-5 weeks vs 4 weeks

[Stalwart]

I dont know how true this is but I heard that there alot of people that actually use pace student logins and can actually have more than 1 person logged in at once....and the whole "u cant login more than 1 computer at a time" thing is just a ross rumor...

[hopelessMD]

I dont know how true this is but I heard that there alot of people that actually use pace student logins and can actually have more than 1 person logged in at once....and the whole "u cant login more than 1 computer at a time" thing is just a ross rumor...
sounds like what are saying is just a "rumor" as well ;)

[Fox225]

Eh, media site is a privilege quite honestly. I was and still am slightly peeved over the switch, but then I remind myself - oh, we're lucky in that we at least HAVE media site. Something like media site isn't a staple of every med school curriculum. Be grateful it was extended to 3 PM and wasn't taken away altogether.

I am not really sure how you interrupt it as a privilege? Do you feel the Library is a privilege, what about lectures are they also a privilege? I think you would be very hard pressed to find a US school with out a media site program.

Also, It is unprofessional of Ross to drastically change programs that are in place at the time of interviewing, I know that it is a commonly held belief that Ross students couldn’t have gotten in any where else, but that is not true. Maybe they couldn’t have gotten in at the same time but a lot of Ross students could have waited another year and been admitted to US schools. And yes, for me not having Media site would have made that difference, as well as going to a school that feels it is acceptable to drastically change policies the way Ross has.

[Mustango]

I dont know how true this is but I heard that there alot of people that actually use pace student logins and can actually have more than 1 person logged in at once....and the whole "u cant login more than 1 computer at a time" thing is just a ross rumor...


Whats the bottom line with this? Is it just a rumor? Cause I know people with multiple passwords which they claim to have and use it to mediasite. Has any PACE student been kicked out because he was sharing passwords?I know several pace students but i don't want to use their password and get them in trouble. Someone enlighten me on this situation. Message me if you don't want to post here.

[islandthrift]

They used to have just one password for everyone and then anyone with the password could get on mediasite. Their passwords were always silly too, like "togetherness" or "laboratory". Now however, I think you should be careful to coordinate with a pace student if you have their password because they can tell, if they wanted to, since everyone has their own individual password now.

[hopelessMD]

someone explain to me PACE student vs regular ross student

[Mustango]

someone explain to me PACE student vs regular ross student


PACE is a loop hole for Ross to make more money. Since all the seats in the classroom are taken, the only way to have more students is if the students view lecture by going online on their computer at home.... in theory, however that's not the case.

Regular students can only mediasite after 3pm and they NEED to be on campus, Pace can do it at the leisure of their own home/apt, as soon as the lecture is over. They also get some quiz questions from the prof. every two weeks to get a general field of what the questions will look like on the MINI.

History of PACE:

PACE was originally a "honors" program where you had to have a high undergrad GPA to enter. At the end of your RUSM, you got some sort of special diploma saying you completed the "honor" course. Now and days, it no longer is honors, just PACE.

The Problem with PACE:

1. Some of them go to class which defeats the purpose of having PACE since they take up seats in the class.
2. They get to mediasite at 9am while the rest of the students start at 3pm
3. We are all paying the same intuition, thus it would seem rational for all the students to have the same resources.
4. They get the prof. to explain the quiz questions while the other students can only access an online version of the quiz with no explanations and answers already marked so they can't test themselves.

Did I miss anything/ get any info wrong?

Personally, I need to mediasite. For reasons stated already in this thread. Nothing ticks me off more than seeing PACE students attending class. I would die to have the opportunity for their password. Having 60 students have extra resources that the rest of the class doesn't have is unfair.

I just take it as it is now, life ain't far as we all know. I'm guessing the reason they moved the mediasite is for more students to attend class. But moving mediasite to 3pm is not going to force me to go to class. I just switched my time schedule now. Everyday, I wake up extremely late, I end up mediasite/studying til' 5am in the morning. Kinda like a vampire, sadly enough.

Do i like staying up that late... No.

Do I have to.... Yes, its the only way I absorb the info. I tried goin' to class the first 3 weeks and I didn't absorb as much of the info since I couldn't pause it and understand the first part of the lectures. Some people can do it, I can't. SoooooorrrrrrY for being "dumb", but that's how I learn and did quite well the first semester. I went to cognitive skills to see how I could change my learning strategy, and they told me, "why are you still going to class? Do what works for you".

I would terminate PACE program, but that ain't happening since ROSS loves the $$$. But at least even up the playing field, mediasite for everyone at 9am. amen

[Dr. M]

So I am not at Ross but am seriously looking at it as a possibility as none of the waitlists I am on are moving. So my question is. Would it be possible for a student to video tape the lectures themselves? I do understand that the rooms are large and there would be some serious logistics involved but still a possibility? Also I know of at least one really good medical school that has nothing like mediasite and aren't looking at getting it is University of Rochester School of Medicine. Thanks for any replys. I would have pm'd but don't have the post count needed :-P

[Closter]

Why video tape it yourself? you can watch any video any time on campus.
(You can actually download the videos using special tools. I can't tell you how, in fear of potential problem this might cause)

[SilentMember]

So I am not at Ross but am seriously looking at it as a possibility as none of the waitlists I am on are moving. So my question is. Would it be possible for a student to video tape the lectures themselves? I do understand that the rooms are large and there would be some serious logistics involved but still a possibility? Also I know of at least one really good medical school that has nothing like mediasite and aren't looking at getting it is University of Rochester School of Medicine. Thanks for any replys. I would have pm'd but don't have the post count needed :-P

It has been done. I have seen some people use the camera on their computers to tape the class--they didn't set up a tripod or anything.

[Mustango]

Theres no point in video taping, you get the classes online at 3pm. The thing is, for people that don't like to attend lecture they have to wait til 3pm.

[Closter]

There are barely 100 people in class, it looks like a lot, but if you do a head count, there are maybe 120 tops on busy days. Surely, one can attend class until 3pm and then media site? O.o

Why tape a class if you are in class already O.o

[Gator98MD]

Back in my day this PACE program did not exist, however, a sort of underground PACE did exist in the sense that alot of the "student organizations" had question banks and all sorts of other perks. They had quite a little racket going on down there!!:roll:

[DrMS]

PACE isn't for everyone. I have a couple of friends who dropped out of the PACE prgram because they didn't like the extra meetings, quizzes, etc. You can try it and then make a decision to stay in it or not. It really depends on the individual.

[importspeed]

I was in PACE last semester but decided to leave because of the mandatory meetings. All the meetings are time-wasters IMHO. The only good thing about PACE is exmediasite (or off-campus mediasite) access.

The requirement to enter PACE is not high at all. Make sure you talk to PACE director about joining next semester if you think that they have an unfair advantage.

[Sizzzurp]

:roll: Hello Peter!!

[Mustango]

:roll: Hello Peter!!


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Anyways, there's goin' to be a forum next week. They want people to email Dr. C with questions, opinions and comments. Everyone please write in telling them how much having mediasite at 3pm BLOWS. I know people here like to complain, here's your chance to actually have your complains heard. Don't be lazy, write her an email!

[Laconic]

I am not even on the island yet, and think that this mediasite unfairness is analogous to a colored person not being able to enjoy coffee at a white boys club few decades ago.. Can I also write an email this Dr.C :rolleyes:

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Anyways, there's goin' to be a forum next week. They want people to email Dr. C with questions, opinions and comments. Everyone please write in telling them how much having mediasite at 3pm BLOWS. I know people here like to complain, here's your chance to actually have your complains heard. Don't be lazy, write her an email!

[Mustango]

I am not even on the island yet, and think that this mediasite unfairness is analogous to a colored person not being able to enjoy coffee at a white boys club few decades ago.. Can I also write an email this Dr.C :rolleyes:


If you have a ross email, why not? lol

[Aggiemd2b]

I wrote this as well in the question I had about getting into PACE prior to my first semester. Mustango are there not other items involved in PACE besides the ones you pointed out? I thought the PACE students only get to use pro-sected specimens and must also do a certain amount of peer tutoring each semester? I am interrested in these options. Thanks

[syntrik]

PACE students do dissections just like everyone else. They attend weekly sessions where they work individually and then in groups to solve questions that are given by professors. The answers are then explained by the professors. Normal students can get these questions off the G-drive after the session is over.

The only real difference between PACE and normal students is they can mediasite earlier and from home. They mus also attend the group session things as attendence is taken. They also have the added benefit of being called "PACE kids" in pot shots by other stuents.

[Aggiemd2b]

Thanks for the info!

[Mustango]

Dang, its wednesday and still no date/location/time for the meeting with dr. c ...

sigh

[Mustango]

THANKS FOR SHOWING UP TO THE FORUM GUYS! There were more faulty than students at the forum. There must have been only 10 students. Thanks for the support.... No really, thanks.

They gave no solid reasons to moving mediasite to 3pm. It wasn't about accreditation, it wasn't because of the 80% need to attend. The only reason they stressed was "they want to make learning more interactive". Personally a bunch of horse ___.

There is NO way to interact in class/lecture. They are out of their minds! In lecture, the max questions asked to the professor are 4 questions by a handful of students. The other 250 students just listen. So now the dean wants to make little group sessions during class.... wow. I'm back to middle school...

I thought the forum would help, but I just ended up being more angry and dissatisfied. Blah, well back to studying for the MINI. Oh, wait... I ain't interacting with professors, I wouldn't be able to learn the material... what will I ever do?


gimme a break...

[importspeed]

THANKS FOR SHOWING UP TO THE FORUM GUYS! There were more faulty than students at the forum. There must have been only 10 students. Thanks for the support.... No really, thanks.

They gave no solid reasons to moving mediasite to 3pm. It wasn't about accreditation, it wasn't because of the 80% need to attend. The only reason they stressed was "they want to make learning more interactive". Personally a bunch of horse ___.

There is NO way to interact in class/lecture. They are out of their minds! In lecture, the max questions asked to the professor are 4 questions by a handful of students. The other 250 students just listen. So now the dean wants to make little group sessions during class.... wow. I'm back to middle school...

I thought the forum would help, but I just ended up being more angry and dissatisfied. Blah, well back to studying for the MINI. Oh, wait... I ain't interacting with professors, I wouldn't be able to learn the material... what will I ever do?


gimme a break...


Indeed, I was expecting people lining up to get in room 2b for the forum because so many people complained about the issue but it turned out to have more professors showed up than students. I am pretty disappointed actually and I feel no sympathy about people that complain about the Mediasite issue yet not speak up when their opinion actually matters.

To my surprise though, a number of professors actually support the idea of students using Mediasite. It's good to know that some faculties (even though only a few) have student's best interest in mind.

[Mustango]

At this rate, the only change that is going to happen are the changes that they want to do. I went in thinking that mediasite was going to go back to how it was since it did NOT change the amount of attendance in class or the "interaction" between student and professor.

However, if its only a few of us complaining we are not going to go anywhere.

[Sideswipe]

Most Ross students are too lazy and too selfish to ever invest time in anything like this. They would rather someone else do the work for them and then just get a free ride. The SGA a year ago was SOMEHOW able to convince the professors to start implementing the policy where they hand out the lectures instead of each student printing out the lectures individually. Thanks to that group's effort and work, the rest of us benefitted. However, I hear that some academic departments are regressing and not following that policy anymore.

We had a "squatting forum" with the same dean last summer semester. I think about 50 students showed up (mostly from the lower semesters). For a student body with close to 1000 people in the area, it was paltry. However to now see ONE-FIFTH that come to the mediasite forum speaks loudly about the newest students to Ross.

[Mustango]

I don't blame the incoming rossies since they never experienced what it was to have media site in the morning. Squatting affects firsties since it takes away their study space which they use everyday, something worth fighting.

However, 2nd, 3rd & 4th wow... even the teachers were surprised. They got a bunch of emails complaining about mediasite, yet no one shows. The were thinking they would need a bigger room. Some of profs. started to poke fun that there were more faulty than students. really shameful on the students part.

[Closter]

Jesus guys, it's the Friday before the mini. Honestly, what did u expect....

I would have shown up even though i couldn't care less about mediasite just to watch, it weren't for the mini...

[ILPsychDoc]

Wow, ten students?!? That stinks that people would rather complain on VMd than go to an actual forum about the problem... glad I got into Pace...

[Sideswipe]

Its a very underhanded way to circumvent giving the students an actual voice. They might as well put it on the day of the mini and held the venue back in Miami.

[Saberrattler]

Jesus guys, it's the Friday before the mini. Honestly, what did u expect....

I would have shown up even though i couldn't care less about mediasite just to watch, it weren't for the mini...

True dat.

I was extremely annoyed that they scheduled the meeting when they did. I would've loved to make it and throw in my two cents but I have major PATHO issues to worry about for the next few days.

But I'm gonna give credit where credit is due -- to Mustango and the other students who showed up. You guys should'nt have had to sacrifice precious study time for this!

For all its worth, I'm definitely going to be at the next scheduled forum for this. I want my morning Mediasite BACK!

[jcu]

The forum wasn't "accidentally" scheduled on the Friday before the mini. I mean honestly. It's been months since the switch. Just get used to it.

[Mustango]

I'm not giving up yet.

[Mustango]

Well.... supposedly we have our mediasite back to how it should be for next semester. I joined PaCE just incase they decide to back down on their word.