Rejection Letter!!!

[WhoMeDoctor]

Hello everyone,
Just to let y'all know that I send in my application for the Sept.08 entering class to SABA admin. May 14th , and yesterday I received a rejection letter from them stating that My stasts were not competitive enough for SABA but very competitive for MUA.That's some s***! because I know I got fairly good stats (overall GPA 3.42, Scie GPA 4.0 Low MCAT score) and I have been interviewed and awating for final decision from Ross and one coming up with St George. So I don't understand why those same stats are not competitive enough for them. Personally, I think their financial situation might be the reason. What do you think?

[Scott1981]

what was your mcat score? was your 4.0 science gpa first time classes or any repeats?

[WhoMeDoctor]

what was your mcat score? was your 4.0 science gpa first time classes or any repeats?

low mcat score Other than organic chem I lecture all the rest were first time. I graduated last May double major Nursing and Biology.

[kryptik]

Your MCAT is pretty low but your other stats are good(afterall they dont require the mcat) maybe they werent impressed with your interview, or maybe the class is full for sept 08, did you ask them to forward you to jan 09? am sure you can get in then.

[WhoMeDoctor]

Your MCAT is pretty low but your other stats are good(afterall they dont require the mcat) maybe they werent impressed with your interview, or maybe the class is full for sept 08, did you ask them to forward you to jan 09? am sure you can get in then.

I didn't get an interview. Nothing. just the letter. I will call 2morrow

[brob311]

those MCAT's are really low holmes...You will probably have trouble getting into St George, and Ross, but will probably get into Ross MERP

[Mike77]

mcat score 14 and 16. Other than organic chem I lecture all the rest were first time. I graduated last May double major Nursing and Biology.

Honestly, like everyone said, that is a REALLY low MCAT score that set off a red flag. They probably think you either can't perform under pressure, or your school had inflated grades. I mean, considering 21 is average, to score that twice will be an issue.

I would study your *** off in the next few months and re-write the MCAT and hopefully get at least a 21-25... How much time did you study for the mcat before?

[WhoMeDoctor]

Honestly, like everyone said, that is a REALLY low MCAT score that set off a red flag. They probably think you either can't perform under pressure, or your school had inflated grades. I mean, considering 21 is average, to score that twice will be an issue.

I would study your *** off in the next few months and re-write the MCAT and hopefully get at least a 21-25... How much time did you study for the mcat before?

To tell the truth, i mainly rely on my school performance to take both Mcat. I guess i would need some review classes or something to help me better prepare for that if i happen to retake it.
Thanks everyone. (for some of you out there, i personally know some that got accepted with no mcat and with lower gpa than mine. Gues wasn't lucky enough)

[kryptik]

dont give up, and if you should retake the mcat get a review book Examkrakers is pretty good and also do a lot of questions, also push saba for an interview, good luck.

[WhoMeDoctor]

dont give up, and if you should retake the mcat get a review book Examkrakers is pretty good and also do a lot of questions, also push saba for an interview, good luck.

Thanks a lot. it feels good to read you.

[maserati]

i didn't even take the mcat.

i doubt that mcat was the issue.

[jar22]

I think NOT taking the mcat and taking it and getting really low scores are to different things. not taking the mcat doesnt say anything about your mcat performance but taking it and getting low scores says a lot about you.
and its also important that you get good scores (about 8 or more) in your biological and physical science section. they dont give that much importance to the verbal section specially if english is your second language.

[DOCplucinski]

one thing you have to understand is that most universities do not teach their science courses for you to take the MCAT. it's much different that medical school where in that, the overall goal, more or less is to present you with the adequate information that will help you pass the USMLE. in undergrad, the professors may teach you some of the tested subjects that will be on the MCAT but other things may be emphasized like the current research the professor is doing.

that's the real problem so going from the knowledge you learned from undergrad and trying to sit for the MCAT will not work that way. i'd suggest, if you weren't accepted anywhere after your interviews (and i wouldn't take MERP if Ross offers you it) to take a prep course or buy Exam Krackers and get crackin. good luck to you

[WhoMeDoctor]

one thing you have to understand is that most universities do not teach their science courses for you to take the MCAT. it's much different that medical school where in that, the overall goal, more or less is to present you with the adequate information that will help you pass the USMLE. in undergrad, the professors may teach you some of the tested subjects that will be on the MCAT but other things may be emphasized like the current research the professor is doing.

that's the real problem so going from the knowledge you learned from undergrad and trying to sit for the MCAT will not work that way. i'd suggest, if you weren't accepted anywhere after your interviews (and i wouldn't take MERP if Ross offers you it) to take a prep course or buy Exam Krackers and get crackin. good luck to you

Thanks DOCplucinski,
I agree with everything you've said. am waiting what happen with my interviews, then will make my next move.
Thanks again

[MatCFAMD]

A cGPA 3.42 and sGPA 4.0 (perfect gpa, btw) even with low MCAT will at least get an interview, and not be told your stats are not competitive.

It could be because you took the courses at community college (not university) and your MCAT scores written twice (14, 16) were really low and didn't show rigour (which sealed the status of cc-level courses), or you don't have the required number of credits. Also, the kind of courses included in your cGPA 3.42 and the kind of science courses included in your 4.0 perfect science gpa.

If you don't have the number of credits required, you know what to do. If your courses are at CC, re-write your MCAT for the 3rd time. Good luck.


Hello everyone,
Just to let y'all know that I send in my application for the Sept.08 entering class to SABA admin. May 14th , and yesterday I received a rejection letter from them stating that My stasts were not competitive enough for SABA but very competitive for MUA.That's some s***! because I know I got fairly good stats (overall GPA 3.42, Scie GPA 4.0 Low MCAT score) and I have been interviewed and awating for final decision from Ross and one coming up with St George. So I don't understand why those same stats are not competitive enough for them. Personally, I think their financial situation might be the reason. What do you think?

[KingMo]

Jar22 said it right. Your MCAT buried you. Retake the MCAT, study PROPERLY for it (school work does not prepare you for MCAT really), and call them back and push for an interview to explain yourself.

Incidentally, you have a very good science GPA. If you did very well on MCAT, you may even have a chance at a state school (3.42 is def a lower tier GPA though).

[jar22]

listen, my mcat score was 18 which is quite low! my physical and bio ver average but verbal was really really low but i was able to explain that english is my third language. If you can hold a good conversation in english and have taken your undergrad subjects in english, you know enough english to survive medical school.
get good scores in ** and PS and try your best for VS too, but dont worry too much about it.
call them again and explain your side or atleast ask them to interview you.
by the way, Im accepted for jan09
hope we can get some loan options soon.

so dont loose hope, if thats what you really want, you'll get it.
worst come to worst, retake the mcat.

[spreebee]

mcat score 14 and 16. Other than organic chem I lecture all the rest were first time. I graduated last May double major Nursing and Biology.

geezus take Kaplan 6 week course than get accepted at St. George...Good luck

[Phrozen]

I just got a letter and I didn't get in with a 3.0 cGPA and about the same science GPA from a Canadian university in Ontario. My major was Biological Sciences. They didn't ask me for an interview even.

Got a 25N on the MCAT... 8 ** / 8 PS / 9 VR.

Any tips on what I should do? They said in the letter to apply for MUA-Nevis but I already have and got in after the interview.

Just had my interview for SGU and an upcoming one with Ross. Waiting to hear back from AUC and AUA.

[kryptik]

well wait and see how sgu and ross interviews go, i really think the class is full thats why you are being declined without interviews, also ask them to consider you for the jan 09 class.

[Phrozen]

well wait and see how sgu and ross interviews go, i really think the class is full thats why you are being declined without interviews, also ask them to consider you for the jan 09 class.

That's what I think I'll do. Hopefully I'll get into SGU, AUC, or Ross. I know SGU and Ross are full for Aug/Sept already so I may have to wait until January 2009 unless I do the GSP program at SGU.

[JeebusLives]

MUAs not a bad school. Unless you wanna go to california.

[amyames]

I just got a letter and I didn't get in with a 3.0 cGPA and about the same science GPA from a Canadian university in Ontario. My major was Biological Sciences. They didn't ask me for an interview even.

Got a 25N on the MCAT... 8 ** / 8 PS / 9 VR.

Any tips on what I should do? They said in the letter to apply for MUA-Nevis but I already have and got in after the interview.

Just had my interview for SGU and an upcoming one with Ross. Waiting to hear back from AUC and AUA.



mmm they always said they wanted to make saba more competitive..looks like they are doing it! I wonder when they will start requiring the MCAT.....

and never hesitate to ask why they didn't give you an interview..like others have said maybe they are full.....but it could even be a reason you never even thought of....would be good to know before your Ross interviews.

all the best to you!

[Staedtler]

Hey phrozen, did you get to find out from Saba why you didn't get the interview? A gpa 3.42 and 4.0 science gpa are not bad, they could've at least given you an interview and had you explain your low mcat score.

That's what I think I'll do. Hopefully I'll get into SGU, AUC, or Ross. I know SGU and Ross are full for Aug/Sept already so I may have to wait until January 2009 unless I do the GSP program at SGU.

[Staedtler]

Those are really low mcat scores, esp. verbal, you are very much likely to have a great deal of difficulty, you were admitted but it doesn't mean you will stay through, you are more likely to transfer out, if not, fail right out, and end up with tons of debt!



p.s. i've heard stories schools pulling people out even after registration

listen, my mcat score was 18 which is quite low! but it was 8PS 7PS 3VR. my physical and bio ver average but verbal was really really low but i was able to explain that english is my third language. verbal section is just nonsence (at least for me it is). If you can hold a good conversation in english and have taken your undergrad subjects in english, you know enough english to survive medical school.
I volunteered for an anesthesiologist who CAN'T even pronounce half of the medical terms let alone hold a conversation. so bottomline,get good scores in ** and PS and try your best for VS too, but dont worry too much about it.
call them again and explain your side or atleast ask them to interview you.
by the way, Im accepted for jan09
hope we can get some loan options soon.

so dont loose hope, if thats what you really want, you'll get it.
worst come to worst, retake the mcat.

[jar22]

mr/ms/mrs staedtler,

#1, I have nothing against the anesthesiologist, he's a great doctor, dont get me wrong. i was just exagerating things to emphasize that VR doesnt play a big role in medical school for me. there are so many doctors practicing in US that did their medical education in another language so pronounciation of medical terms doesnt say anything about your ability to practice medicine. I respect our anesthesiologist a lot!

#2, who told you that i got a recommendation letter from the anesthesiologist? you might wanna check that again before you say something.

#3, Ive prepared a lot by volunteering and working in hospitals and got descent grades in my college so I think its fair to think that I should be given a chance to study in school of medicine.

[jar22]

when it comes to the admissions commitee, what I was trying to say is that they look beyond your grades. numbers do say something but they dont say everything about you. Im still convinced that the reason I got in is not because of the mcat but because of the extracurricuar activities I had and I had a good explanation for my low VR scores.

as it goes for the anesthesiologist, I do apologize if i said/delivered it the wrong way. I'm totally misunderstood on that because that not what i really meant. the gist of that argument was that the biological and physical sciences section are more important than the VR and you can see that in SABA's faq too under mcat requirements.

there're lots of reasons why people perform poorly on certain exams/subjects and saying that they're just not good in them is just being stupid.
I have nothing against you, its just that you talk before knowing what i really meant.

[Staedtler]

wow this guy/gal is really inflammatory and bitter.... anyway, i won't go there, still a weak gpa and a very weak mcat (and a 3VR?), are good recipe to flunk out and owe tons of debt, it happens a lot with a very high probability. :bored: IMHO and that's echoed by people countless times. :D


when it comes to the admissions commitee, what I was trying to say is that they look beyond your grades. numbers do say something but they dont say everything about you. Im still convinced that the reason I got in is not because of the mcat but because of the extracurricuar activities I had and I had a good explanation for my low VR scores.

as it goes for the anesthesiologist, I do apologize if i said/delivered it the wrong way. I'm totally misunderstood on that because that not what i really meant. the gist of that argument was that the biological and physical sciences section are more important than the VR and you can see that in SABA's faq too under mcat requirements.

there're lots of reasons why people perform poorly on certain exams/subjects and saying that they're just not good in them is just being stupid. just a piece of advice, you might wanna compare your thinking with a highschool student and see who does better.

I have nothing against you, its just that you talk before knowing what i really meant.

[jar22]

your short reply just said that you made a baseless argument. anyway, goodluck on your journey...

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[jar22]

wolfvgang22,
I already made the necessary corrections in my post. If theres anything else I can do, let me knwo.

[jabee_usm]

i didn't even take the mcat.

i doubt that mcat was the issue.

You do not have to take the MCAT for Saba correct?:confused:

[jar22]

You do not have to take the MCAT for Saba correct?:confused:

you might not have to take the mcat if you have competitive undergrad gpa and good amount of volunteer/paid work experience and strong letters. If you're confident with your undergrad knowledge, it would be better if you take the mcat. goodluck!

[jhafez87]

will I be good with 103 credit hrs from JR college and 23 mcat

[jabee_usm]

I think u need a bachelors! Check out there website!

[jhafez87]

it says 90 credit or ** degree ....beside I'm intrested in that davenport BBA/MBA program

[KingMo]

it says 90 credit or ** degree ....beside I'm intrested in that davenport BBA/MBA program

Yes..but 90credits is a bare minimum.

Ie: 90 credits (no degree, I assume) + 23 MCAT = trouble
You're kinda pushing the limit. Unless you have a strong GPA. Alternatively, you coudl play your cards without giving them an MCAT score, cuz that's dragging you down. But then you have no MCAT plus no degree (which has been done before, but you're really pushing it).

On the other hand... a degree + 23 MCAT = much better. You have a degree to back you up now, at least.

Also, that Davenport program... that should be your LAST concern. Plenty of threads have heavily critiqued the program, so I wont say anymore, but read up on it with scrutiny.

[jhafez87]

I've been doin research for about 3 or 4 month now, but thnx for ur advice anyway

[tiger15lily]

PLEASE lock or delete this thread. Let's keep this as a forum for useful information pertaining to SUSOM and Saba.

The other thread about what's happening to our school can also be deleted/locked as far as I'm concerned.:roll:

[Mike77]

PLEASE lock or delete this thread. Let's keep this as a forum for useful information pertaining to SUSOM and Saba.

The other thread about what's happening to our school can also be deleted/locked as far as I'm concerned.:roll:
...It is entirely relevent, why change it?

Of course these questions have been repeated 50x in the past, if that's what you mean.

In conclusion: Not everyone can get into Saba, they need some standards. If you didn't get in, look for the clear weakness in your application, and improve it.

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[jabee_usm]

:):):):):)

[Phrozen]

Meh... rejected from Saba. Oh well, just found out I got into SGU! :)

[Staedtler]

pricey but stafford-approved.