Matching in 3.5 years

[AllOverThePlace]

SABA website and chat transcript says one can complete their medical education in 40-42 months. So if I start in Jan 2009, how likely is it for me to make a 2012 match? 42 months means I'd be finishing by June 2012. Do you all know people who actually pulled that off? Or do most people end up taking extra time for their Step1s and just match the following year?

[JLea]

Not going to happen unless you set up all of your own clinicals... (good luck).

Saba has lost too many clinical sites and they are taking too many students each semester.

They just had a meeting with the students this week and the students were told to decelerate their educations so they "wouldn't fail any classes."

[darkmansaad]

hahaha is this a rumor or is this for real? thank god i only need one more core scheduled...PWNED

[AllOverThePlace]

How do you set up your own clinicals? I thought you just have to do with the school says?

[raptors]

Not going to happen unless you set up all of your own clinicals... (good luck).

Saba has lost too many clinical sites and they are taking too many students each semester.

They just had a meeting with the students this week and the students were told to decelerate their educations so they "wouldn't fail any classes."


What exactly do you mean by "decelerating"? Take less courses? Take summers off? Otherwise, they'd fail students intentionally?

Any comments would be appreciated. I can assume that this problem will only get worse with the 80-85 students they have incoming each semester. Did they mention if Saba is trying to add any clinical sites in the near future?

What would you say to an incoming student Jlea? Thanks.

[Boulderunner]

Not going to happen unless you set up all of your own clinicals... (good luck).

Saba has lost too many clinical sites and they are taking too many students each semester.

They just had a meeting with the students this week and the students were told to decelerate their educations so they "wouldn't fail any classes."


I must have missed this meeting. perhaps your mistaking Saba for Statia.

[covarubious]

the decelerating thing sounds a bit off since it was brought up in the chat and liz very strongly advised against it... is this whole loosing sites thing true and documented or is it just another rumor?

I must have missed this meeting. perhaps your mistaking Saba for Statia.

[Mike77]

I must have missed this meeting. perhaps your mistaking Saba for Statia.


I hope this gets clarified, because that one comment was pretty strange.

Also, there's no way you're going to graduate in 3.5 years. If anything, shoot for 5. I don't see why you'd want to rush writing your USMLE exams. I'm sure it's theoretically possible to do, even if your clinicals somehow worked out, but why would you want to screw yourself out of valuable USMLE prep time? A crappy score means a crappy placement, or much more realistically, no placement.

[covarubious]

and a great score is imprtant for a carib grad... yeah, we really need a clarification on that post...

I hope this gets clarified, because that one comment was pretty strange.

Also, there's no way you're going to graduate in 3.5 years. If anything, shoot for 5. I don't see why you'd want to rush writing your USMLE exams. I'm sure it's theoretically possible to do, even if your clinicals somehow worked out, but why would you want to screw yourself out of valuable USMLE prep time? A crappy score means a crappy placement, or much more realistically, no placement.

[wolfvgang22]

From my perspecitive in clinicals, right now there is not a problem with getting core rotations for the most part. Recently I received emails from our clinical office in Gardner offering greenbook by specialty core rotations that are available this fall. Reasons students can have trouble getting clinicals are:

1. Absolutely requiring greenbook by specialty rotations for yourself(most states don't require this for licensure - know what you need).
2. Being unwilling to travel for rotations, and
3. Being unprofessional (either towards Saba staff, at the clinical site, etc)

Electives that can be hard to get are Neurology and Emergency. This is because they are popular rotations among most students, and also required by many U.S. medical schools. Though Saba will help you set up cores, you should apply for these electives 6 months in advance at least if you want them. I learned this the hard way - don't make my mistake.

The recent admissions chat said there is little sitting out time for students unless it is so desired by the student, I have seen no reason to doubt that in my own experience. There have always been rumors that there are not enough spots.

[covarubious]

hreat info, thanks!
1. I assume somebody at the school would have info on who needs greenbook and who doesn't?
2. This just seems silly but I can see it happening. Imagine going to a remote island for 2 years but not wanting to go to a different city for a few months? I would just to experience a new place and see more of the country...
3. In this case you deserve what you get!

So how hard are neuro and Emerg? Do you have to wait a long time or go to the middle of nowhere?

A friend of mine just finnished Saba last semester and is taking time to prep for Falcon then some more prep befor usmle... Takes a lot of hard work but its worth it in the end...

From my perspecitive in clinicals, right now there is not a problem with getting core rotations for the most part. Recently I received emails from our clinical office in Gardner offering greenbook by specialty core rotations that are available this fall. Reasons students can have trouble getting clinicals are:
1. Absolutely requiring greenbook by specialty rotations for yourself(most states don't require this for licensure - know what you need).
2. Being unwilling to travel for rotations, and
3. Being unprofessional (either towards Saba staff, at the clinical site, etc)
Electives that can be hard to get are Neurology and Emergency. This is because they are popular rotations among most students, and also required by many U.S. medical schools. Though Saba will help you set up cores, you should apply for these electives 6 months in advance at least if you want them. I learned this the hard way - don't make my mistake.

The recent admissions chat said there is little sitting out time for students unless it is so desired by the student, I have seen no reason to doubt that in my own experience. There have always been rumors that there are not enough spots.

[wolfvgang22]

Generally rotations are not in the middle of nowhere, as they are at teaching hospitals in larger cities for the most part. This is particularly true in the case of neurology. Neurologists don't go to work in small towns, they work where the fellowships are. (Of course, all bets are off if by the "middle of nowhere" you mean outside of New York city. :roll:)

It is of course easiest to get elective rotations arranged at the same hospitals where Saba arranges your 5 core electives. Arrange neuro and EM at least 6 months in advance.

It is the individual students responsibility to know if you need greenbook by specialty rotations. You should read the licensure regulations governing the states you are most interested in on your own. Saba is upfront about this.

Do your homework regarding what kind of clinical training you need for state licensure. I have seen some students just going for greenbook by specialty rotations to cover themselves without reading licensure law out of sheer laziness. This only makes more work for themselves in the long run as it is harder to get these greenbook by specialty rotations. Furthermore it is not kind to your fellow students who want to go back home to Texas or Virginia.

In general only students who want to one day be licensed in Texas or Virginia need strict greenbook rotations. Most students only need rotations that are considered greenbook under the family practice umbrella. There are a number of threads on this forum where the difference is spelled out.

[wolfvgang22]

My advice to people in general:
Smart students plan for 4 full years. You may get tired. (Be aware that Saba clinical office tells hospitals that we should work every weekend and be on call at least once per week during core rotations, which may be modified more or less by the staff at each hospital. We are not restricted to 80 hours per week as students.) Things may happen, you could get sick, etc.

Do not ever plan to rush or take short cuts in the course of your medical education and residency, as you will must pay in money and sweat either now or later. This also applies to why you are going carribbean. If one is going to Saba hoping to take a short cut, re-evaluate, because in the end it is not a short cut.

This is just a general advice meant for everybody, not anyone in particular as I don't know you.

[wolfvgang22]

How do you set up your own clinicals? I thought you just have to do with the school says?
you set up your own electives. saba arranges your core clinicals.

[Boulderunner]

Not going to happen unless you set up all of your own clinicals... (good luck).

Saba has lost too many clinical sites and they are taking too many students each semester.

They just had a meeting with the students this week and the students were told to decelerate their educations so they "wouldn't fail any classes."



Man do I love hamburgers. Flame broiled with a slice of tomato, and some melted jack cheese. and even better is covered with chili verde and bacon. I want a hamburger more than a breath of life itself. ....

[JLea]

Edited because of probems with cut and paste.

[KingMo]

2. This just seems silly but I can see it happening. Imagine going to a remote island for 2 years but not wanting to go to a different city for a few months? I would just to experience a new place and see more of the country...


Some people have families. Also, it's not easy to finish a rotation on Friday and have to move 2000 miles to start another rotation on Monday. And all of a sudden this doesn't seem as silly as it originally sounded.

[covarubious]

its brutal yes but the sooner you finnish the sooner you get back to them and are able to provide for the family...

Some people have families. Also, it's not easy to finish a rotation on Friday and have to move 2000 miles to start another rotation on Monday. And all of a sudden this doesn't seem as silly as it originally sounded.

[KingMo]

its brutal yes but the sooner you finnish the sooner you get back to them and are able to provide for the family...

Maybe. But...

Two years of making them live in Saba or leaving them behind.
Two years of making them constantly move for rotations or leaving them behind.
Three years plus of residency where you won't really see them.

They probably won't forgive you after seven years. So something really has to give here and there.

[covarubious]

thats why i am determined to stay single until i am done... can't imagine all that strain and pressure added onto everything else we have to do

Maybe. But...

Two years of making them live in Saba or leaving them behind.
Two years of making them constantly move for rotations or leaving them behind.
Three years plus of residency where you won't really see them.

They probably won't forgive you after seven years. So something really has to give here and there.

[js_paramedic_1979]

My longest move over one weekend was from Hollywood, FL to Minneapolis, MN.. Sure, it's not tough by plane, but try to do it in a car.. I enlisted the help of my parents for that one!!

A guy who did it in 40 mths!!

[Mike77]

My longest move over one weekend was from Hollywood, FL to Minneapolis, MN.. Sure, it's not tough by plane, but try to do it in a car.. I enlisted the help of my parents for that one!!

A guy who did it in 40 mths!!

WHOA, are you serious? You did the whole process in that time? And you got a surgeory match? Good for you, very impressive.

Kingmo and Cobar... .My gameplan is to realisticly meet a nice girl during residency, because you know you'll have similar interests and locations won't be a problem :p . Apparantly finding a single girl on Saba is like finding as sober irishmen-- it is possible, but not likely.

[covarubious]

you racist! i'm mostly irish! ;) won't you be a bit busy studying to be checkin out the ladies? lol

WHOA, are you serious? You did the whole process in that time? And you got a surgeory match? Good for you, very impressive.

Kingmo and Cobar... .My gameplan is to realisticly meet a nice girl during residency, because you know you'll have similar interests and locations won't be a problem :p . Apparantly finding a single girl on Saba is like finding as sober irishmen-- it is possible, but not likely.

[wolfvgang22]

Rather than trying to discredit an individual, please instead discredit the argument that there is a problem with Saba clinicals.

Here's what I know: Saba has lost some clinical spots, particularly in NY and Chicago. Saba has been accepting more students than it has in the past in recent semesters. I don't know if anyone has been told on the island to decelerate due to these facts. I do know that this is the opposite of what Saba staff have always told me, and the opposite of what is said in the recent admissions chat posted on this forum. (Thank you to covarubious for posting that chat transcript.) If anything Saba has always encouraged students to hurry through school without breaks.
Peace,
~W

[covarubious]

it is true that Saba has lost some clinicals in NY but so has everybody because another greedy school baught them allll up. ;) but y'all have a big country. lol (and I have a nice guest room waiting for me in Chicago if anybody knows a few good spots there. lol)
No prob wolf, its nice to hear info from the horses mouth once in a while ;)
Now back to the main topic... does anybody know anything about there being a shortage of spots? My friend who just finnished 5th semester didn't hear anything about it...

I believe it is true this person is not a Saba student anymore, but I don't believe the rest of this statement is accurate based on what I know to be true.

Rather than trying to discredit an individual (JLea in this case), please instead discredit the argument that there is a problem with Saba clinicals.

Here's what I know: Saba has lost some clinical spots, particularly in NY. Saba has been accepting more students than it has in the past in recent semesters. I don't know if anyone has been told on the island to decelerate due to these facts. I do know that this is the opposite of what Saba staff have always told me, and the opposite of what is said in the recent admissions chat posted on this forum. (Thank you to covarubious for posting that chat transcript.) If anything Saba has always encouraged students to hurry through school without breaks.
Peace,
~W

[Mike77]

it is true that Saba has lost some clinicals in NY but so has everybody because another greedy school baught them allll up. ;) but y'all have a big country. lol (and I have a nice guest room waiting for me in Chicago if anybody knows a few good spots there. lol)
No prob wolf, its nice to hear info from the horses mouth once in a while ;)
Now back to the main topic... does anybody know anything about there being a shortage of spots? My friend who just finnished 5th semester didn't hear anything about it...

Well I think that there won't be a big crunch until 2 years from now, as the classes are really getting full. I think that it's a no-brainer though. More students ='s more money for Saba. More money for saba ='s more clinical spots....

[covarubious]

As long as thats where the money goes ;) not women and booze... lol well, seems like they are puting lots of work into the school so the extra tuition is ok... Still much cheaper then other schools. just stop going up until i am done lol plus, yeah we gotta pay for those clinical spots befor the big money schools buy them all up

Well I think that there won't be a big crunch until 2 years from now, as the classes are really getting full. I think that it's a no-brainer though. More students ='s more money for Saba. More money for saba ='s more clinical spots....

[golfman]

I believe that JLea was misinformed on the meeting that took place at the school. All students met with their advisers and we got free pizza out of it. As for dropping classes, this was aimed at students who did really poorly on the first set of exams. It was in no way geared towards clinical rotations but rather trying to keep those people from flunking out of the school.

[KingMo]

lol (and I have a nice guest room waiting for me in Chicago if anybody knows a few good spots there. lol)

I'd hate to burst your bubble...but Saba just lost (or is on the verge of losing) two Chicago hospitals. One shut down, the other bought out.

[covarubious]

mmm pizza! is there a good pizza place on the island?

I believe that JLea was misinformed on the meeting that took place at the school. All students met with their advisers and we got free pizza out of it. As for dropping classes, this was aimed at students who did really poorly on the first set of exams. It was in no way geared towards clinical rotations but rather trying to keep those people from flunking out of the school.

[covarubious]

a friend of mine works in a chicago hospital so if worse comes to worse I could probably set something up myself... fingers crossed...

I'd hate to burst your bubble...but Saba just lost (or is on the verge of losing) two Chicago hospitals. One shut down, the other bought out.

[Mike77]

a friend of mine works in a chicago hospital so if worse comes to worse I could probably set something up myself... fingers crossed...

... Were you serious about that?

[covarubious]

? well, i do have connections there and toronto... hopefuly he could hook me up in the windy city... it has been mentioned here a few times u can set up your own stuff...

... Were you serious about that?

[Mike77]

? well, i do have connections there and toronto... hopefuly he could hook me up in the windy city... it has been mentioned here a few times u can set up your own stuff...

It might sound easy now with lots of spare time, but when you're doing your clinicals full time, it'll be a different story. There are still lots of other clinical options... Some do all, if not most, of their cores in one hospital... I'd say just find a good one and make the best out of it... More options will open up in the next 2-3 years anyway (i hope).

[covarubious]

well, hopefully i won't need to but wouldn't mind staying in a tricked out condo rent free studying in the hot tub. ;) helps that hes a doc who knows the ropes and can give tons of advice. or i could stay in cheap hostle and try not to be dismembered lol ;)

It might sound easy now with lots of spare time, but when you're doing your clinicals full time, it'll be a different story. There are still lots of other clinical options... Some do all, if not most, of their cores in one hospital... I'd say just find a good one and make the best out of it... More options will open up in the next 2-3 years anyway (i hope).

[JLea]

I believe that JLea was misinformed on the meeting that took place at the school. All students met with their advisers and we got free pizza out of it. As for dropping classes, this was aimed at students who did really poorly on the first set of exams. It was in no way geared towards clinical rotations but rather trying to keep those people from flunking out of the school.

GM, if you say so, then I stand corrected. However, it will still be rather difficult to start in January and match in 3.5 years.

[darkmansaad]

i would like to nominate covarubious for an admin spot if possible, he has officially surpassed the late, great rdecastro (thats for the old school ValueMD'ers)

[covarubious]

I'll take that as the compliment it was obviously intended to be... ;)

i would like to nominate covarubious for an admin spot if possible, he has officially surpassed the late, great rdecastro (thats for the old school ValueMD'ers)

[darkmansaad]

you apparently have NO IDEA of the rdecastro era of ValueMD

[covarubious]

you mean it wasn't a compliment?? GASP! (see, that was more sarcasm) :bored:

you apparently have NO IDEA of the rdecastro era of ValueMD

[Boulderunner]

i would like to nominate covarubious for an admin spot if possible, he has officially surpassed the late, great rdecastro (thats for the old school ValueMD'ers)



yes. you must start wearing the same red hawaiian shirt everyday, and put together lengthy powerpoints on the utility of the pda....and of course spend 85% of your time on vmd "advising" people....

[Mike77]

yes. you must start wearing the same red hawaiian shirt everyday, and put together lengthy powerpoints on the utility of the pda....and of course spend 85% of your time on vmd "advising" people....

nah, he asks for advice.... Give it time!!! Just kidding covar :)

Was this guy a student at Saba or something?

[covarubious]

Et tu brute? tsk tsk... :twisted:

nah, he asks for advice.... Give it time!!! Just kidding covar :)

Was this guy a student at Saba or something?

[golfman]

GM, if you say so, then I stand corrected. However, it will still be rather difficult to start in January and match in 3.5 years.

I agree with you on the 3.5 year thing. It really isn't feasible at all. Then again, why hurry, its only money we are spending and not making. :)

[Mike77]

I agree with you on the 3.5 year thing. It really isn't feasible at all. Then again, why hurry, its only money we are spending and not making. :)

well theoretically you won't pay any less tuition, but could technically work a year earlier... If given the choice, i'd rather go for 5 years 100x more than 3.5 years!

[MatCFAMD]

Hi,

Is this timeline feasible ?

Begin: Jan 2009
2009 Do 3 semesters* (Jan-Dec)
2010 Do 3 semesters (Jan-Dec)**
2011 Do 3 semesters; apply in the Fall for Match***
2012 Do 1 semester (Jan-Apr); Start Residency in Jul/Aug (if matched)

*There are two weeks break in-between semesters, should be good enough. I know at UCalgary and McMaster they have 11 months continuous instruction, 3-year MD. Load-wise, it should be doable. The question is, will there be any problem on the scheduling of the clinical rotations (core and electives) at Saba, or does Saba have quota on the number of students they put on core rotations in particular place and in particular semester.

**USMLE Step 1 Review: there are also hours in the curriculum already allocated for the formal review/prep for the exam.

***With 48 months and no semestral breaks, if a student begins in January 2009, Match is 2013, and if matched, residency starts thereafter in the same year.

Those who start in May 2009, they will also match in 2013 if you work out their timeline.

Naively, it looks feasible for start dates January 2009 and May 2009 to match for 2013, and start residency thereafter.

No, yes, comment ?

Thanks.

[Mike77]

I believe your main problem would be getting your clinicals done on time. Assuming there wasn't a single delay and everything worked out perfectly, i guess it's theoretically possible? However, I don't see it being practical.

Other opinions?


Hi,

Is this timeline feasible ?

Begin: Jan 2009
2009 Do 3 semesters* (Jan-Dec)
2010 Do 3 semesters (Jan-Dec)**
2011 Do 3 semesters; apply in the Fall for Match***
2012 Do 1 semester (Jan-Apr); Start Residency in Jul/Aug (if matched)

*There are two weeks break in-between semesters, should be good enough. I know at UCalgary and McMaster they have 11 months continuous instruction, 3-year MD. Load-wise, it should be doable. The question is, will there be any problem on the scheduling of the clinical rotations (core and electives) at Saba, or does Saba have quota on the number of students they put on core rotations in particular place and in particular semester.

**USMLE Step 1 Review: there are also hours in the curriculum already allocated for the formal review/prep for the exam.

***With 48 months and no semestral breaks, if a student begins in January 2009, Match is 2013, and if matched, residency starts thereafter in the same year.

Those who start in May 2009, they will also match in 2013 if you work out their timeline.

Naively, it looks feasible for start dates January 2009 and May 2009 to match for 2013, and start residency thereafter.

No, yes, comment ?

Thanks.

[KingMo]

Hi,

Is this timeline feasible ?
No, yes, comment ?

Thanks.

Yes, its feasible. A few have done it, most have failed. Two issues come in the way: 1) you have to take USMLE ASAP, with not much time off for studying 2) you have to have all your rotations lined up back to back with very little gaps. Both are tough to do, esp with the variability of rotations.

[Mike77]

Yes, its feasible. A few have done it, most have failed. Two issues come in the way: 1) you have to take USMLE ASAP, with not much time off for studying 2) you have to have all your rotations lined up back to back with very little gaps. Both are tough to do, esp with the variability of rotations.

I think it all sounds good and dandy now, but once you're in med school and realize the workload, you probably wouldn't want to rush it... Think about it this way... you're competing against about 40,000 people for the US match, almost all that took 4 years to do med school. Now you're coming in at a disadvantage being an IMG, do you want to be at another 4 month disadvantage, or do you want an 8 month advantage? Not to mention, this just assumes it is possible. Take all the time you can get, and study hard for USMLE's.

Im starting in January 2009, and I know my choice.

[js_paramedic_1979]

** If you're not considering matching in less than 48 mths, you can stop reading here.

Here was my timeline. As mentioned above, it's not easy to finish like this. From my semester (Jan '05), there were about 8-10 who finished on time for graduation last month. There were also 2 or 3 who graduated from the May '05 class.

20 mths on Saba -- 01/05 - 08/06
~7wks prep time
USMLE Step 1 -- 10/12/06
Psychiatry (Morganton, NC) 6 wks -- 10/23/06 - 12/1/06
~2 wks off
Internal Medicine (St. Louis, MO) 12 wks -- 12/18/06 - 03/09/07
OB/GYN (Chicago, IL) 6 wks -- 03/12/07 - 04/20/07
Surgery (Hollywood, FL) 12 wks -- 04/23/07 - 07/13/07
Peds (Minneapolis, MN) 6 wks -- 07/16/07 - 08/24/07
~5wks prep time
USMLE Step 2CK -- 09/27/07
Family Medicine (Carbondale, IL) 4 wks -- 10/01/07 - 10/26/07
IM Sub-I (St. Louis, MO) 5 wks -- 10/29/07 - 11/30/07
Critical Care Medicine (St. Louis, MO) 4 wks -- 12/03/07 - 12/28/07
USMLE Step 2CS -- 12/04/07
Emergency Medicine (Belleville, IL) 4 wks -- 12/31/07 - 01/25/08 *
Surgery Elective (St. Louis, MO) 5 wks -- 01/28/08 - 02/29/08
Anesthesiology (St. Louis, MO) 4 wks -- 03/03/08 - 03/28/08
Ortho Surgery (Chicago, IL) 4 wks -- 03/31/08 - 04/25/08
~1mth off
Graduation -- 05/31/08

*EM shifts were scheduled around interview dates.

I'm not suggesting this schedule. However, if you are on a rushed schedule, this is one way to make it happen. If you look at the dates, you will notice that my rotations were scheduled through all major U.S. holidays.... Yes, I was in the hospitals on those days.

[Mike77]

Wow! That is an incredible schedule..

I have to ask, how did you manage to get an apartment so quick everytime?

** If you're not considering matching in less than 48 mths, you can stop reading here.

Here was my timeline. As mentioned above, it's not easy to finish like this. From my semester (Jan '05), there were about 8-10 who finished on time for graduation last month. There were also 2 or 3 who graduated from the May '05 class.

20 mths on Saba -- 01/05 - 08/06
USMLE Step 1 -- 10/12/06
Psychiatry (Morganton, NC) 6 wks -- 10/23/06 - 12/1/06
Internal Medicine (St. Louis, MO) 12 wks -- 12/18/06 - 03/09/07
OB/GYN (Chicago, IL) 6 wks -- 03/12/07 - 04/20/07
Surgery (Hollywood, FL) 12 wks -- 04/23/07 - 07/13/07
Peds (Minneapolis, MN) 6 wks -- 07/16/07 - 08/24/07
USMLE Step 2CK -- 09/27/07
Family Medicine (Carbondale, IL) 4 wks -- 10/01/07 - 10/26/07
IM Sub-I (St. Louis, MO) 5 wks -- 10/29/07 - 11/30/07
Critical Care Medicine (St. Louis, MO) 4 wks -- 12/03/07 - 12/28/07
USMLE Step 2CS -- 12/04/07
Emergency Medicine (Belleville, IL) 4 wks -- 12/31/07 - 01/25/08 *
Surgery Elective (St. Louis, MO) 5 wks -- 01/28/08 - 02/29/08
Anesthesiology (St. Louis, MO) 4 wks -- 03/03/08 - 03/28/08
Ortho Surgery (Chicago, IL) 4 wks -- 03/31/08 - 04/25/08
Graduation -- 05/31/08

*EM shifts were scheduled around interview dates.

I'm not suggesting this schedule. However, if you are on a rushed schedule, this is one way to make it happen. If you look at the dates, you will notice that my rotations were scheduled through all major U.S. holidays as well....

[js_paramedic_1979]

Craigslist.com

Also, housing was provided for FM and Psych. I re-rented the exact apt for both stents in St. Louis, MO.

I suggested to the school that they should add a spot to list places where we stayed on clinical eval forms, but it hasn't happened. I thought that would be a good way to keep a running list of places to rent in each city...

[covarubious]

Hmmmm that would be a great idea!! Maybe thats another forum that can be set up here...

Craigslist.com

Also, housing was provided for FM and Psych. I re-rented the exact apt for both stents in St. Louis, MO.

I suggested to the school that they should add a spot to list places where we stayed on clinical eval forms, but it hasn't happened. I thought that would be a good way to keep a running list of places to rent in each city...

[rdecastro]

yes. you must start wearing the same red hawaiian shirt everyday, and put together lengthy powerpoints on the utility of the pda....and of course spend 85% of your time on vmd "advising" people....


Sorry, but I only bought my (one) red Hawaiian shirt after leaving Saba. And I didn't spend anywhere near 85% of the time on VMD. As far as the powerpoints go, it could be worse - ask a physio prof.


But, it's nice being remembered.

[Mike77]

Sorry, but I only bought my (one) red Hawaiian shirt after leaving Saba. And I didn't spend anywhere near 85% of the time on VMD. As far as the powerpoints go, it could be worse - ask a physio prof.


But, it's nice being remembered.

So what'd you do after that?

I was going to bring a haiwaiin shirt to saba... are they not trendy anymore? :)

[rdecastro]

So what'd you do after that?

I was going to bring a haiwaiin shirt to saba... are they not trendy anymore? :)

Most people can't pull the look off.

But you can buy them on Sint Maarten for 3/$20.

[covarubious]

hmmm well, if i am supposed to be your devotee I should probably save up some shirt buyin money ;)

Most people can't pull the look off.

But you can buy them on Sint Maarten for 3/$20.

[Mike77]

Hmmmm that would be a great idea!! Maybe thats another forum that can be set up here...

it's been done: there's a forum in this website (valuemd) that covers it, but it's for all schools. I'd say your best bet would still be external sites (craigslist) or local newspapers.

[covarubious]

where, didn't see it. I know there is a section for residency and clinicals but not good places to live while you are there. a lot of places can be very shady and/or scarey if you don't know the city. I work in a residence and trust me, I have heard many stories from different people that set up spots online through different sites and craigslist and were comepletely scre.... uhm... not happy with their accomodations. also helps to know what are the good areas of town to live... ;) if you don't like prostitutes, living by my school wouldn't be for you...

it's been done: there's a forum in this website (valuemd) that covers it, but it's for all schools. I'd say your best bet would still be external sites (craigslist) or local newspapers.

[wolfvgang22]

A list made by students and posted online would be a good idea. The problems to doing this on ValueMD are two-fold:
1. You need permission from the landlord or apartment to post their name and contact info on ValueMD, and
2. As you've probably noticed, most students in clinicals and beyond do not find the time to post on this forum.

So a list off of this site would be a good solution. I think a link to it in a post here would be allowed.

Though it takes more work in the long run, your best bet would be to contact classmates in clincals, other students in clinicals ahead of you, or contact recent alumni who did clinicals in the city you will be in. There are quite a few on facebook, and recent alumni who are usually agreeable to helping those behind them have their email posted on the alumni portion of the Saba website.

[darkmansaad]

you also get a list of housing from the clinical co ordinator in your rotation packet that gets sent to you before ur rotation. that usually covers most options. i am about to start my 3rd rotation and i have had zero probs with housing so far. you can also use the clinical section to PM people who have done previous rotations about more info about rotations or housing....almost everyone I have PM'ed has responded. If you go out and look for info you will find it