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HoneyStar
05-31-2008, 06:40 PM
I was previously on a 5yr MBBS course, in my 2nd yr at Barts & the London but was unfortunately dismissed from the programme for poor performance and this was due to severe problems that I was experiencing during the academic year.

I know Medicine is the only career for me and have been roaming through websites for private medical schools in the UK but there does not seem to be any.

I am now looking at Ireland and possibly St.Matthews University and or the Czech Republic. Please could someone advise me as to which one is better (and accredited or recognised by the GMC) and what my chances are of getting into one of these and how long the process is.

Thanks

czdoc
06-04-2008, 01:06 PM
easy to get into czech republic, look up any of the faculty websites for details.

Chemist_11
06-06-2008, 05:06 PM
'European law allows failed students to practise in UK'

Medical students kicked off UK medicine courses are using European legislation to be able to practise in this country. GMC education committee chair Peter Rubin told a student fitness-to-practise engagement workshop that EU legislation raised a number of dilemmas for the regulator.
He told the workshop, organised by the GMC and the MSC, that a handful of students who had been asked to leave UK medical schools had gone on to study medicine at English language medical schools overseas, including in other EU countries.

But don't worry, the article basically states that there does need to be much more consistency across medical schools fitness-to-practise procedures.

Is the decision of the faculty now final?

P.s. Your best bet is probably a Czech/Polish 6 year programme - which are typically aimed at students who do not already hold a BSc.

marsh182
09-14-2008, 07:04 PM
i'm currently at st matthews and i am from the uk. the course is good and recognised back home also its quick (4 years). the up side is that after the basic science semesters (about 1 year and a half) we can go back home to do clinicals, and we have full accreditation in the US. the downside is that the fees are higher than Charles university in prague and that you have to sit the PLAB if you want to practise in the UK after you graduate. if you really do want to come here and you apply soon then you could probably be here by Jan. if you want more info on the university just PM me.

diogenes
09-15-2008, 04:45 AM
i'm currently at st matthews and i am from the uk. the course is good and recognised back home also its quick (4 years). the up side is that after the basic science semesters (about 1 year and a half) we can go back home to do clinicals, and we have full accreditation in the US. the downside is that the fees are higher than Charles university in prague and that you have to sit the PLAB if you want to practise in the UK after you graduate. if you really do want to come here and you apply soon then you could probably be here by Jan. if you want more info on the university just PM me.
Although it probably doesn't matter to the OP, who has not been online for some time and may already have made their choices, I'm afraid your post could mislead in a number of ways -


As far as the U.K. is concerned St. Matt's. has recently joined a few other schools of mixed repute on the may be, case-by-case basis eligibility for registration in this country. (http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/registration_applications/join_the_register/acceptable_primary_medical_qualification.asp. )
(http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/registration_applications/join_the_register/acceptable_primary_medical_qualification.asp)
Regarding doing all or most rotations in the U.K. - in the current situation I would make doubly sure with the GMC that your degree would still be eligible were you to take that option.
"Full accreditation in the U.S."? You don't have any; that is the same for all of the Caribbean schools and most worldwide outside Nth. America. What you have is eligibility/recognition/approval for licensure in about 70-80% of states. That's not a trivial distinction - many people attach importance to the false belief that because a Carib. school's grads are licensable in one or more states the education has been quality assured by some competent U.S. authority - not true I'm afraid. (see St. Matts. thread for recent details of licensure outlook http://www.valuemd.com/st-matthews-university-school-medicine/58951-states-disapprove-limit-licensure-smu-grads.html)
(http://www.valuemd.com/st-matthews-university-school-medicine/58951-states-disapprove-limit-licensure-smu-grads.html)

With all the present uncertainties over registration, training and job prospects I would advise U.K.-bound folk to go to an EU school if at all possible. It's not that St. Matt's and several other Caribbean schools are bad schools: it's just that at the moment the risks compared to European ones seem unjustified.