Surgery Hours at your rotation?

[Macgyver1]

So I am comparing surgery schedules at different AUC sites. So what were some of your hours while in surgery on a weekly basis.

Here is mine:
St Mary's - On call q4 days with NO post call. Your expected to stay all day post call. Round at 4:30am and dismissed on average 5-6pm with totoal of 90-100 hours a week.

so what are your experiences?

[Skipper]

all surgery suck and it is about the same everywhere....

skipper

[DrShikima]

Long hours, period. Do the time, do your work. Hide when you can and stay out of the way. And sleep as much as possible.

[TBL2008]

So I am comparing surgery schedules at different AUC sites. So what were some of your hours while in surgery on a weekly basis.

Here is mine:
St Mary's - On call q4 days with NO post call. Your expected to stay all day post call. Round at 4:30am and dismissed on average 5-6pm with totoal of 90-100 hours a week.

so what are your experiences?

How many weeks do you have left?? Are you rounding again in the afternoons?

Good luck!

[Macgyver1]

How many weeks do you have left?? Are you rounding again in the afternoons?

Good luck!

Sure are. It varies everyday as of what time, rarely before 4pm, but usually around 4-5pm on average. But after 6-7 has happened too. Some residents are "Nicer" than others and realize we spend more time then they do. Then we occasionally get to round and be off before 5pm.

All in all its TOUGH... can't wait 6 weeks to go.

[slfarnsw]

Here's mine:

On call one to two times per week. If you spend the night at the hospital, you get a post call (meaning you can leave sometime between noon and 3:30 the next day depending on the case load), but if you don't stay at the hospital the entire night, you don't get a post-call. (Sometimes, there's a shortage of call rooms, so they have us go home around 9 or 10 rather than sleeping at the hospital.) We round between 6 and 6:30, which means we get there to start pre-rounding around 5. On non post-call days, we get out anywhere between 5 and 7. Occasionally, if it's an exceptionally light day, they'll let us out around 4. Some of the residents also expect us to come in and round on Saturday and Sunday as well....it's jut the luck of the draw as to whether or not you'll get one of them. Overall: 70-80 hours/week.

[options]

I rotated at providence a couple years ago and Surgery wasn't that bad. We had about 5-6 calls a month randomly assigned and I think about 2 of those were weekend calls. Day started around 5 a.m. and left around 5 p.m. but could be later.. I came in every saturday just because I had a team that expected that but other students didn't have to. All and all not a bad schedule compared to many others I've heard from.

[stateofequilibrium]

Don't you love surgery hours? What's even more fun is when you want that top recommendation and put your other students to shame by coming in even earlier than everyone else and staying later.

[Macgyver1]

Hahahaha.. I can put up with the pimping, scut work, dressing changes, etc... if they would just remember that the world doesn't revolve around the surgery dept. :)

We all have lives outside the hospital, and need time to do important things like, pay bills, buy groceries, STUDY!.. ya know minor things. Getting off at 7pm sometimes later and having 2-4 hours a day before having to go to bed gets old QUICK.

Just let me go by 5pm and I can live with it. I hate the differing times of being dismissed everyday. Being a student there should be a rule that students cannot stay past 5pm.

[stateofequilibrium]

Hahahaha.. I can put up with the pimping, scut work, dressing changes, etc... if they would just remember that the world doesn't revolve around the surgery dept. :)

We all have lives outside the hospital, and need time to do important things like, pay bills, buy groceries, STUDY!.. ya know minor things. Getting off at 7pm sometimes later and having 2-4 hours a day before having to go to bed gets old QUICK.

Just let me go by 5pm and I can live with it. I hate the differing times of being dismissed everyday. Being a student there should be a rule that students cannot stay past 5pm.

It is a pain, but it helps having good residents and attendings. I loved being pimped by them because it just wasn't to make me feel small and insignificant, but they actually did a lot of bedside teaching which made up for the lack of book time I was getting. Though I definitely need to buy new shoes: too much blood and are now too smelly from all those overnight calls when I never got to take off my shoes.

[FOID]

i actually love having blood on my scrubs. felt like i had a merit badge on.

[stateofequilibrium]

i actually love having blood on my scrubs. felt like i had a merit badge on.

Blood on scrubs I don't mind because you can just go change. Blood on white coat I hate because I take it home, and I'm sure your patient doesn't feel comfortable seeing you look like a mad butcher.

[FOID]

Blood on scrubs I don't mind because you can just go change. Blood on white coat I hate because I take it home, and I'm sure your patient doesn't feel comfortable seeing you look like a mad butcher.

and it costs so much to dry clean it.

[BiologyBY]

Blood on scrubs I don't mind because you can just go change. Blood on white coat I hate because I take it home, and I'm sure your patient doesn't feel comfortable seeing you look like a mad butcher.
It really depends on a patient

[options]

Hahahaha.. I can put up with the pimping, scut work, dressing changes, etc... if they would just remember that the world doesn't revolve around the surgery dept. :)

We all have lives outside the hospital, and need time to do important things like, pay bills, buy groceries, STUDY!.. ya know minor things. Getting off at 7pm sometimes later and having 2-4 hours a day before having to go to bed gets old QUICK.

Just let me go by 5pm and I can live with it. I hate the differing times of being dismissed everyday. Being a student there should be a rule that students cannot stay past 5pm.

There really isn't much to study for Surgery, especially if you have already rotated through internal medicine.

[stateofequilibrium]

There really isn't much to study for Surgery, especially if you have already rotated through internal medicine.

Well, some of the procedures I didn't know about until I reached surgery. And the order of some things you learn in surgery. But yup, for the most part, the indications are pretty much the same. But god bless surgery for the procedures you get to do, breaks the monotony.

[Scientific]

So I am comparing surgery schedules at different AUC sites. So what were some of your hours while in surgery on a weekly basis.

so what are your experiences?

We started at 6am (5:30 while doing ICU),then did morning rounds until 7:30. After that, I had about 2-3 cases per day (I used to hide out between cases to keep from getting scutted out too much ;)), then afternoon rounds were anywhere from 3-6pm so we went home anywhere from 4:30 ( on a good day.....VERY rare) to around 7pm.....usually around 6-7pm. we were on call q4 which SUCKED, pretty much all our weekends were shot. Surgery sucked...it was my least favorite rotation. Long hours, not enough teaching (although my couple of weeks in the Surgery ICU were a different story, the attendings were Pulmonologists who were big on teaching). Best way to survive....suck it up, hide and study/sleep whenever possible, and unless you're trying to go into surgery, don't try to be a superstar....chances are no on will care anyway and you'll piss off your fellow students lol.