the Netherland Connection?

[Talvez]

I was wondering Saba is in the netherlands antilles ,now how does that help us when it comes to the mother country netherland,can we practice there ,the regulations etc...

in other words saba being in the netherlands antille does it have a pro or a loop hole to The real netherlands?

[Dr Pepper]

Not at all whatsoever.

SUSOM is a US school in the Caribbean, and after graduation you won't have the required qualifications to practice in The Netherlands or even in The Netherlands Antilles themselves.

The connection between The Netherlands and The Netherland Antilles and Aruba is unique, to say the least. Some of the laws enforced in The Netherlands are not even considered here, and the contrary. Be careful, because some people assume that the antillean territory of Holland is as liberal as it.

[dt]

How about the fact that Saba is WHO listed? Can one then just write some tests and stuff to get licensed in the Netherlands (or EEA)?

[WantMD]

This is NOT based on fact, it is based on opinion so please don't quote me :-)

I'll go out on a limb here and say that if you want to practice in the Netherlands with a degree from Saba you will most likely have to go through whatever process is required to license foreign medical graduates in the Netherlands. I don't think Saba or AUC for that matter receive any special status because they are in a dutch protectorate.

To keep in mind, some countries don't allow foreign medical grads at all or they make licensing such a nightmare that for all practical purposes you cannot get licensed. The U.S. is one of the friendliest places for a foreign grad and get licensed, at least in the first world. For example, Canada is very IMG unfriendly.

WantMD :-)

[Talvez]

dr. pepper you said "not even in The Netherlands Antilles themselves"

The schools are chartered by the netherland antilles so you can practice medicine in them ,isn't what charter implies?

[ResearchingGuy]

Saba grads CAN practice in the Netherlands Antilles. We currently have a graduate practicing in St. Maarten. As far as practicing in Europe, we are eligible to sit for the PLAB in the UK. So the potential is there for one of us to practice there.

There are a lot of things happening down here regarding the status of the Netherlands Antilles in regard to Holland and the EU. Some folks here want to get closer to Holland and some want independence. There are lots of changes occuring over medical licensure in the EU as well. Where once the only people who could practice in France (for example) were grads of French schools who were French citizens. They are now being compelled to allow physicians from other parts of the EU to practice there. My point is that things are in a state of flux all over and I think the situation must be considered on a case by case basis.

As for practicing in Europe, most American citizens don't seem to want to go there because you will (usually) work for the government and will not make anywhere hear the money you would make in the US. Why do you think there are so many IMG's trying to get into the US?

Please don't misunderstand me though, I think it would be very exciting to practice in Europe (or Africa or Latin America). If you want to do that, I think you should get in touch with the authorities in the appropriate jurisdiction and find out the particulars.

Best of Luck!

[Talvez]

thanks researching guy that was insightful,gracias:)

[tRmedic21]

Yes, the statement that AUC (and likely Saba) grads are ineligible for licensure in Holland or the Antilles is incorrect, someone is obviously spouting off their opinion instead of fact.

[WantMD]

Yes, the statement that AUC (and likely Saba) grads are ineligible for licensure in Holland or the Antilles is incorrect, someone is obviously spouting off their opinion instead of fact.

You should read it again since that is not what I wrote. I never said they are ineligible, I said that you are probably treated the same as any other IMG. In other words, I doubt that in the eyes of the Dutch (meaning Holland, not SXM) that a diploma from Saba is treated the same as one from the University of Amsterdam when it comes to licensing in Holland. I actually spent a good amount of time looking into this question as it is something I am interested in as well. I believe that my facts are fairly accurate since I got them off of some Dutch websites that were translated using the free tool I found at http://www.systranet.com/systran/net. The reason I warned about being based on opinion is that the translations are not perfect and I had to "guesstimate" what was written at times.

I made an honest attempt at answering this guy's question. Maybe you have additional info to add, but the least you can do is quote me correctly before accusing me of spouting off.

WantMD.

[aychamo]

I'm interested to hear more about the guy practicing in Saint Marten. Where did he do residency?

[Dr Pepper]

I'm interested to hear more about the guy practicing in Saint Marten. Where did he do residency?
"Doing your clinicals" here or there is not the same as "practicing" in those same places.

[WantMD]

I'm interested to hear more about the guy practicing in Saint Marten. Where did he do residency?
"Doing your clinicals" here or there is not the same as "practicing" in those same places.

I thought that clinicals referred to 3rd & 4th year rotations, not residency. Is this correct?

WantMD

[tRmedic21]

I made an honest attempt at answering this guy's question. Maybe you have additional info to add, but the least you can do is quote me correctly before accusing me of spouting off.

WantMD.

Relax, I wasn't talking about you, but about this:

SUSOM is a US school in the Caribbean, and after graduation you won't have the required qualifications to practice in The Netherlands or even in The Netherlands Antilles themselves.

AUC grads are most definately eligible for licensure in Sint Maarten, but like any other foreign doc, must do a 1 year 'supervised internship' under a licensed physican here.

[Dr Pepper]

Relax, I wasn't talking about you, but about this:

SUSOM is a US school in the Caribbean, and after graduation you won't have the required qualifications to practice in The Netherlands or even in The Netherlands Antilles themselves.

AUC grads are most definately eligible for licensure in Sint Maarten, but like any other foreign doc, must do a 1 year 'supervised internship' under a licensed physican here.

So at the end, AUC or not AUC, you'll face this situation: 'after graduation you won't have the required qualifications to practice in The Netherlands or even in The Netherlands Antilles themselves'

You need to be supervised for at least a year, and then go to Curacao. BTW, the NA supervision/NA license is not going to help you to practice in Holland.

:roll:

[ResearchingGuy]

Hi tr!

How are things in SXM? I just got back.

Like AUC, Saba grads can be licensed in the Netherlands Antilles. As I mentioned before, we have a grad in SXM. I believe he did his internship there at St. Maarten Medical Center (1 year) and is now practicing there. I don't believe I am violating TOS since his name and location are published on the Saba website, but I'll do like they do in the papers here and just use his intials - C V dW - and you can go to the website and look him up.

Again, having a license here does not mean you are licensed in the Netherlands, for though we are a part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, we are not part of the EU (at least yet).

If you really want to practice in Europe, you might want to consider schools there (especially the Czech programs now that they are part of the EU). Just make sure to check out (no pun intended) the requirements for whatever jurisdiction you wish to practice in. Try to get the rules in writing if you can.

Best of Luck!