Textbook list of Kursk State Medical University

[Want2badoc]

Hi everyone there!
I am planning to get admission in KURSK STATE MEDICAL UNIVERSITY in Russia. I wanted to know abou the living standards of this place and also it would be rather helpful if anyone sends me textbook list of this university for first and second year.
Tata!

[edward89]

hey Want2badoc,

I've registered for the enrollment into KSMU (kursk state medical uni) for pre-med this coming sept intake. Are you deciding to go there too? check out this: www(dot)infolanka(dot)com/ksmu/medical_program(dot)htm


there's a list of subjects the students would take in this 6 yrs MD. hope tat this might help you. May i know where are you from? i'm from sarawak, malaysia.

[Cox's Bazar]

Hi buddy! Nice 2 meet u. I am for premed too joining this sept. too. I am from Bangladesh. I think we can discuss about our preparations b4 getting there. I am doing a three months primary russian language course b4 getting there. Don't u think this is a better plan, know the language b4 u go there? Do u have any idea about textbooks that we will get in the very first year? I am studying R. S. Snell a little bit.

[Cox's Bazar]

Hi everyone there!
I am planning to get admission in KURSK STATE MEDICAL UNIVERSITY in Russia. I wanted to know abou the living standards of this place and also it would be rather helpful if anyone sends me textbook list of this university for first and second year.
Tata!

Buddy I think u can try the textbooks of R.S. Snell, Moore and Netter's Atlas. They r taught here in Bangladesh, India and Pakistan. But don't know about Russia. I Poland's Pozan Moore is followed. Which country r u from btw?:roll:

[edward89]

Hi Cox's Bazar,

nice to meet you here. I know language would b a great barrier during learning at there since the 1rst place. Currently there's no russian lang class at my place so i jz bought some lang books to study. But i think there won't b a serious prob. hv you seen my link above? It says there will be russian lang class provided for us who take english medium for medicine and pre-med and it's approximately 100 credit hrs for each semester. so it's equivalent to 1 hr everyday (6 days per week). so basically we'll only need to write and speak russian fluently starting from 4th yr onwards (clinical yr). And i've approached the students studying there (KSMU) and they assured me tat as long as we work hard enuf, there won't b any prob at all.

Mostly, the students study at there depends on the lecturer's notes. and books are only mend for reference. and it seems tat you are quite knowledgeable too especially about those books.

Which area or topics are you reading now for R.S. Snell? Anatomy, ... etc? i'm interested to know too. ^^

and for Want2badoc, check out this website too. it's the agent i'll go through b4 settling down in russia. there might b some useful info u wants to know. - www(dot)ksmu(dot)com(dot)my

[Cox's Bazar]

That's wonderful 2 hear from u! Don't tell me buddy! I find myself at sea when I was studying the second chapter of R.S. Snell that has all the descriptions about THORAX. The chapter name is THE THORAX:PART 1 THE THORACIC CAVITY. I can understand that unless u don't visualize these things practically u don't get 2 know them well.Right now I have skipped chapter 2 and am studying chapter 3. This is making quite sense 2 me.

R u from KSMU? Which year? Will they teach me russian language as said in the website? Trust me, I am really enjoying the russian language class here in my country. The lady teacher is so good and russian language sounds so melodious to me: I can't explain in words! I am the best student so far in our class. And the teacher really appreciates me. Okay bye!:p

N yeah, thanx for the suggestion of method of studying.

[Cox's Bazar]

How do u find the teachers there edward89? I don't expect them to be stunning in English but I expect them 2 be helpful about anything that a student does not understand. Can u suggest me which to book 2 follow for genetics? what book r u following?

[edward89]

hey Cox's Bazar,

I've jz registered for the KSMU for pre-med for this sept, i hvn't even gone to the uni yet. I agree that study anatomy needs a lot of one's own imagination. i'm reading one book about the ankle and leg's anatomy but i forgot whose the author. I read it in library.

If you want to know the situation over KSMU, it's better to approach the students at there. You can find some in forums and asking them to gv them their email or msn. i've got to know some. and about the teachers, i heard it depends on which teacher you'll get in ur class. some of them especially those from the head of each departments are very good in teaching and most of them are hving PHD. i've not studied up to genetics so i can't help you. but i think pre-med is jz hving phy, bio, chem and etc. it's not yet to approaching medicine. so i suggest we better concentrate on those sub although it's not a wrong thing to b hardworking and enthuasism about undergraduate medicine's subjects.

and yea, i've seen your other post in another topic. why do you want to transfer to Ryazan during the 2nd yr?

[edward89]

I've latest list of Pre-Med books list with me today for the studies in KSMU. this is for those who wish to study KSMU.

Biology (Reece 7th Edition)
Fundamental of Physics (Halliday 8th Edition)
General Chemistry (Brady 4th Edition)
Further Pure Mathematics (Brain)

[Cox's Bazar]

Sorry. Actually I read all your posts carefully only after I have sent you my post. That is why I asked you many questions that you had already answered in your posts before.

Ryazan came to my preference after reading a thread by the school official Mikhail stating that the tuition fee in Ryazan for English medium MD from 2nd year onwards to 6th year is USD 2500. Apart from that what seemed important to me is that Ryazan is only 250 km from Moscow whereas Kursk is 500 km from the city. A very aged doctor who had passed his MD from Russia told that it’s better to move near the city when you are staying in Russia. This is partly because of the favorable weather and partly because of the other living facilities that you are likely to get whenever you are nearer or in the city of that country.

But buddy, there is something I wanted to ask you.


There in Malaysia, after you have contacted your agent, how much did he charge from you for getting you an offer letter?
When are you expecting your offer letter to come?
Have you completed your O levels only or also A levels as well?
How far is Sarawski from Kuala Lumpur?
Is your language practice going on okay. U can ask for help from me. Visit languagehelpers(dot)com. A great site for starters!

Take care. Bye.:roll:

[Cox's Bazar]

Edward89, one more thing. My agent says me that from Sept. I shall directly get into MD program. Another site also says that premeds are only allowed for Feb. sessions. What did ur agent say? I am confused! Agents, after all are hardly to be trusted.

[edward89]

hi there,

i thought those cities near to the Moscow would cost a fortune in living costs. For those well-equipped facilities, you would hv to pay certain "price" for it.

Answers to your questions:
1) I hv paid for RM1230 (Malaysian Ringgit) for application to KSMU for getting the offer letter which i got few days ago (12/5/2008). ->my agent is MAGARAM ENTERPRISE. web:www(dot)ksmu(dot)com(dot)my -> currency rate RM 1 = 13 INR

2) Since the day i've submitted my application till i received the offer letter now, it's approximately 1 and half month. (my agent estimate it's around 2 months)

3) I've finished SPM (equivalent to O-level) last yr (2007) but i hvn't started A levels.

4) Sarawak is 1200 km from KL.

and i heard KSMU is the 1rst university in Russia to establish English medium for medicine course.

The language website you gave me is wonderful. THANKS. ^^ anymore webs like this?

I hope to see you in KSMU this september. anyway, decision is up to you.

GOOD LUCK,
edward.

[edward89]

hi Cox's Bazar,

sorry i din see your second post here. If you have education qualification such as A-level, you can get into Medicine straight away in this sept. but you will have to sit for admission test in Kursk, Russia (i think) b4 the KSMU will accept you into MD program. But if you enter MD through Pre-Med in KSMU, you won't hv to sit for the exam.

Look to this web (my agent web) ksmu(dot)com(dot)my/intakes(dot)htm . it says the pre-med intakes are available in Feb and Sept.

I contact MAGARAM (my agent dealing for application for KSMU in Malaysia) through another agent(dealing with Magaram) which work for tat company. and tat agent is trustworthy as my dad knew her. but i've never heard tat we can enter MD program using O-level qualification though. My Pre-Med fee is around RM32,000 (excluded application fee and living cost). visit this my post in this forum: forum(dot)malaysianmedicine(dot)com/topic(dot)asp?TOPIC_ID=1602 --> (you hv to registered to the forum to view it.

be fast though, if you really want to study in KSMU. but i've heard a lot of negative things about KSMU such as rude ppl, stress, poor living condition etc. but remember that none university is perfect for one's ideal. i jz want to study and get the knowledge and i dun care for others stuff. If you are determined, nothing can stop you. After all, the application for KSMU in Malaysia close in 30th June. Plus you will hv a lot of things and documents to take care of once you received the offer letter such as Medical check-up and etc.

you can ask anything from me. i'm willing to help you.

[edward89]

ESTIMATED COST OF STUDIES AT KURSK STATE MEDICAL UNIVERSITY (MEDICAL COURSES) which i got from agent in Malaysia 2008/2009.

----------------------------PRE-MED(RM)(1 yr)---------------------------- MEDICAL YEARS (RM)(total 6 yrs)
Application Fee:------------1,230(once)----------------------------------------Same
Tuition Fee:-----------------10,000(ONCE) ------------------------------------17,214 (every yr)
Accomodation:--------------4,000(every yr)-----------------------------------Same
Health Insurance:----------400(every yr)--------------------------------------400
Life Insurance:--------------2,000(every yr)---------------------------------- Same
Flight Fare:------------------4,000(to and from every yr)------------------- Same
Transport:-------------------800(to and from Moscow-KSMU every yr)----Same
MMA registration:-----------20(every yr)-------------------------------------- Same
Visa Fee:---------------------250(ONCE) ----------------------------------------Same
Legal/Stamping Fee:-------100(ONCE) ---------------------------------------Same
Document Notarization:---2,200(ONCE)------------------------------------- Same
Service Charge:-------------8,200(ONCE) -------------------------------------Same
Total:-------------------------33,320(FOR Pre-Med YR)--------------------- 181,354(FOR 6 YRS)
ADD- Food & Personnal:---7,000(each yr) ---------------------------------Same
TOTAL ESTIMATED EXPENSES:-39,090(FOR Pre-Med YR)---------------- 223,354(FOR 6 YRS)

------------------------------ 251,574(For 7 yrs including pre-med)

[Cox's Bazar]

Your info has been of incredible invaluable to me. I like helpful people and am also eager about being helpful 2 others. What are you currently studdying? PHY, CHEM and BIO? If you face problems, I think we can discuss and that perhaps will clear up your thoughts as well as help me in brushing up me ideas. And ur language? Okay, if you don't feel liek talking about these things then perhaps we can discuss other things that shall help us to prepare and share about our upcomming studdies. Tell me one thing buddy, in one of your previous posts u said u made a lot of researches and only after that have able to go for ksmu. What research did u made? Did u really find reliable sources? Do you think going to ksmu would me a good option according to u? Why did u chose ksmu only and not only other universities?
Bye Buddy.
Dasveedania (means see u untill next time)

[edward89]

My researches about KSMU including inside the internet (mostly forums like this) and informations from students studying at there, all from Malaysia though - after i got tired searching in forum (some i took a look in their blog about their lives at there). I haven't get their permission to share their blog though. i'll send you the link to their pages in ur mailbox "private messages" in this forum. check it out.

I'm chinese and most of the time i speak chinese and English comes as a secondary language to me. I choose KSMU for the reason
1)its whole fee is within my parent's ability
2)one of the 5 med uni in Russia tat are recognized by Malaysian Government
3)the agent in-charged near my residential and she helped me out a lot such as filling the forms and other applications.
4)I have known some friends at KSMU thru forums and they are nice ppl.

I have been very busy these few days after i received the offer letter from the KSMU bcoz there's a deadline set by my agent to b send in every documents and fees.

and i've gone to Form 6 (like A-level) temporarily to learn bio, phy and chem. so far i hvn't face any difficulties though but i might have in the future so mayb i need to ask you.

i'm paying the whole pre-med course fee soon (bcoz of the deadline set by the agent) so hopefully everything will go well. i'm going to KSMU for sure.

I'm busy these days so if anything you would like to ask me about stuff at KSMU or help you to ask those students studying at there, you are welcome to do so.

take k,
Dasveedania ^^

[Cox's Bazar]

Too busy? Yes, I understand. Premed or med; both the lives are tougher all the same.

Nice to hear that u r a Chinese. Then probably u and ur family have settled out in Malaysia. My father was actually too much interested to send in China for MBBS which is equivalent to MD. With the booming economy of China my father was also too concerned about my safety and education quality as well, so he opted for China seriously at first. But it was me who was not very interested for some reason. Now my father is willing me to send in ksmu and he is actually not even ready any other universities in Russia. But I am taking things the other way round. All I am trying to do is simply look for other russian universities that will offer me less tuition fees. But my father is not willing to really look for cheaper universities bcoz then he thinks I will not get the best of the education. So, ksmu, which he thinks is within his range; he is interested to send me there.
So I think I better listen to my father and now my purpose is to know about ksmu from its students as much as possible. Thanx for the blogs u sent me.
However, other than hardships of studdying MD, what's even more keeping me engaged is learning to manage my households and myself as well. Oopss! I mean that all these years my mother had hardly ever allowed me to cook in the kitchen or clean my room. And now, after all these years of not working, I have seriously grown lazy. So my practice of reversing my habits are now going on. I myself am tryng to change myself. Anyways.......I guess u have lot to study. So no more bla...bla...bla...

If I get any other kool russian language learning websites then I shall let u know. www(dot)russianlessons(dot)net is an average type website. You can take a look. Also ask for any help concerning your phy, chem or bio.

Keep in Touch.
Take care

[Cox's Bazar]

A laptop may be a useful device for MD students as likns from websites may be really needed by one. Yes, the university cybercafe may provide with inter connections but still a personal thing is after all all you own only. So I think I might carry a laptop with me when I shall get into Russia. What do u say? Any idea about which brand to use of laptops?

[edward89]

Hi there,

Yea, tuition fee was my 1rst concern towards which universities to choose from. But KSMU isn't the cheapest uni in Russia. You can try to search for Volgograd or Nizhny unis. Those uni fees are cheaper in long terms from the way they include hostel fee inside the tuition fee. whereas KSMU doesn't do tat. and i think those unis hv better study environments and facilities since Niz and Vol are both inside the city. (you can google and see the russia map) Kursk is like... a village without much entertainment and disturbance. I like it better in that way but i din know about your choice.

I din do household that much b4 too. but i can learn. i'm learning everyday now how to cook, washing my own clothes, deciding my own stuff. after all, you will 'somehow' know how to do those household once you are there bcoz you din hv much choice. but prevention is always better than cure. It's not you alone are facing such prob. nowadays we (youngster) are almost the same. you dun hv to worry. the life of studying overseas is to learn how to work and live with others. Friends are very important once your family isn't around. cheer up. ^.^

and dun worry about things such as 'best education'. Getting into Haward uni will give you the best lectures, best notes, best guidance and etc. What will really turn you into a doctor depends on yourself. Your determination, your loves for people, your desires and your dreams. There's been cases of excellent students come from unknown universities. There's nothing as absolute in this world. We do what we can for the best and hope for the best.

I'm not bring laptop over to KSMU bcoz i will buy from a senior at there as he'll graduate soon. And those seniors told me that computer is only used sometimes for assignments and most of the time as an entertainment (i've told you that there's not much entertainments at there). If you dun wish to play heavy games on the laptop (laptop isn't mend for entertainment in the 1rst place. if you want, go and buy desktop for cheaper means), you only need to spend around RM2000. (in my place it's adequate for doing project - although it's not enough for multimedia students to do their homework) then try to buy laptop around those price and within your comfortable range.

rite now i've been preparing what to bring before for going there. But i dun think i'll be able to carry all my necessities over there so i'll ask my parents to use cargo to send others to there. (there's weight limits when you are boarding plane) and i think you will also need to bring a lot of stuff if you go to russia. (it's almost like moving house =p) so you will hv to think of a way to send those important and urgent needs such as food to KSMU bcoz most of the things at there are expensive and for the reason you are not used to the foods or stuffs when you 1rstly arrive at there.

ps:those 4 books i mentioned b4 for premed in KSMU weights about 10KG. you really need to send things through cargo.

wishing you good luck,
edward

[Mikhail]

so i'll ask my parents to use cargo to send others to there

Please, be careful deciding to use Cargo. Russian customs regulations are not that easy, so, you may have some heavy days visiting the local customs and fulfilling the required documents (in Russian). Be sure the company offering the service will bring your goods to your room or at least offer your assistance in getting it at customs.

[Cox's Bazar]

Edward, nice 2 hear from you. I am on the practice to get a hold of households and this shall go on anywayz. Thankx for giving the suggestion of laptop. I think I am gonna try like u; that is buy one from a senior.

I have always seen my father being such a mobile person about his travelling that he hardly carries anything else except his passport, ticket and morning's newspaper with him thaty now when you are telling it would be just like moving a house to kursk then I am now really taking ur point into consideration. After all, it is the fact of to stay in one certain place for a period of time and not a short-course travelling anyway! The blogs you sent me where wonderful to read. I would like to have some more if u have.
There is another great russian learning site for u. It's masterrussian(dot)com. You may find it really helpful especially with the vocabulary>essential daily talking site. By the way, what basic preparation are you taking about carrying goods with you? I mean what stuffs u r planning to carry with u most importantly? R u carrying those 10 kg books. O my god! That would be damn heavy then! Can't we get to buy books there? Well yep, the cost would then increase.

Last couple of days ago, I attended a seminar about higher education in Russia organized by the Russian Cultural Centre here in Dhaka. And there were some really great tips to learn like for eg. how do the universities in Russia conduct exams, the cost of living , the problems u would face, etc. It was really a great help to learn how the Russians conduct exams. I mean the technique is so different from the rest of the world and I think I like their idea really. And this has further strengthen up my determiantion of studying in Russia more. There were graduates comming directly from Russian Universities and I was quite impressed by their present status in today's society. Yep buddy, u r 101 times right. It, after all, all depends upon u how u tackle up yourself.

Well, about entertainment, I must say that I enjoy music, watching good quality movies and yes I love to write. So I am planning to get heavily involved in writting as this might help me to pass my vaccations or off times. I have joined the wiki and am also planning to contribute to this site. Although I haven't started anything yet. What are your hobbies? Do u think you hobbies can keep u busy during your times of homesickness(well obviously, if you get any only)?


N.B: Send me the blogs of ksmu if u have anymore.

Take care & do keep in touch.
Pakaa(informal bye)

[edward89]

hi,
That's all the blog I have. It's hard to find others but i think this 2 will be sufficient bcoz they often update on daily basis. I wonder if there is list of books we want for premed sell at Russia. If there is, I would rather buy at there. I'll ask my agent about those stuff later.

Can you talk more about the seminar you went through for the higher education in Russia especially about the examination system at there? What i heard from the seniors there was there will b small quiz every now and then and they take the marks for every quiz. and if you score prefect for every quiz, you can skip that paper exam. And what did you mean by saying 'impressed for the present status in society nowadays'?

I like reading some books and playing piano. but i think there would hardly have any free time once we arrive at there as most of the time we would spend on studying for the examination. i heard that those lecturers taught 1 chap every day and there will b quiz based on yesterday's lesson for written and oral part. and mayb playing games can help to pass time and that's what computers are for at there.

I've almost done every stuff required to register at KSMU through my agent. How are things going for you at there? hopefully everything will go well and we both can study at KSMU. ^^

bye.

ps: oh, there's one more blog. but there's only 1 post in the entire blog that talked about KSMU. i'll send the web address to your inbox .

[Cox's Bazar]

Thank you, for the new blogs and the older one you sent was better.

Yes, do ask your agent about the booklist and I think after reaching Kursk you will be able to buy them from there or if not at least for sure get them from a library. But I think carrying books will also be better only if you have already bought them, have studied from them and now it will be absolutely waste of money if you now leave them back at home. You can also, if you want, then scan some of the books and carry the CD with you. Although this really sounds a weird idea to me. But I got the idea from someone using this very same forum.

Actually, after you suggested me that laptops are used mostly for entertainment purposes, I have realized that it would be rather a better idea to rely heavily on books. After all, this is Russia, not America and her things are taught damn practically with hands and pen. Here at home, when I am serving all these anatomy sites and others on the net, I am not satisfied with the style of information they are supplying. So it’s rather better to rely on books. Yes, for purposes of assignment or emailing back at home, I think then we can use the university computers.

The seminar did one very good thing and that was by informing us with the exam styles conducted in Russia. By saying “'impressed for the present status in society nowadays'?, I meant that in the seminar, name of so many Bengalis had been mentioned who had once graduated from Russia and are now working in either 1st class jobs here in Bangladesh, or are great businessmen, or influential media personals and many A graded economists. When they were saying us the names of those people and their present field of work, I was really stunned to know that these great personalities of the Bengali society whom we see so much in the news, in the tv or read about them frequently in the newspaper; actually are all Russian graduates! This has increased my confidence level and probably it isn’t even that a bad of deciding to go to Russia.

Your seniors put it right to you but not in the way they should have. In the universities of Russia, ORAL exams are given the most preferences. The teacher will give you three sets of questions. You have to chose any one of the sets and take it home. The teacher will give you a certain period of time to study for e.g. 2 weeks. After two weeks, you come in the class and the teacher asks you the questions. You have to answer them orally. Here the best idea is that you can use your own words. The better you express yourself, the better is you teacher pleased with you. If you have been able to complete your studies within 1 week instead of 2, for, e.g., then no problem, after one week you can go and ask the teacher to take your test. Actually there in Russia, oral importance is given so that they can evaluate how much you have understood. Yes, written exams are also likely to be conducted side by side. But I am not sure particularly about ksmu as it is a private university. Moreover, these people who have given lectures said that this was what used to happen in their times and is likely that Russian education has not changed since much then. I can guess from what your seniors said, that probably the teachers will also ask you small oral questions everyday in order to test whether you study after class or not.

I don’t know yet. My mother called the agent today and he asked to wait for a couple of days more. So I am hoping that I get my offer letter soon.
One thing, are you planning to go for the USMLE and then practice in the States or back at home in Malaysia? I find so many forums discussing about USMLE and practicing there in the States. What’s the plus point of getting into the States? Is it all for money? Or that you get a better place to practice? I heard there the doctors are likely to be much restricted from taking any alternative steps while treating patients.

Bye n take care. ^^ It is much enjoying to share the topics with you.

[Cox's Bazar]

You seem to be too busy. Okay. Go on great with your studies.
Bye.

[edward89]

hi there,

i'm sry for late reply. my submission deadline was 1st June so i was busy completing those documents and other stuff. thanks for your useful amazing information that you've provided. and indeed oral exams are given as frequently as daily basis so thus it's very important.

i'm going to pratice in my own country, Malaysia straight after my studies but i'll consider to take up other exams as well as the time passes. Most factors that affect ppl taking up USMLE is mainly for money - as you know. but it differs for different ppl, some ppl think that they'll b able to use and carry their profession well (to pratice) since there are better ppl in that field. but for me, it doesn't matter where i can work as long as i am able to help others in need.

What's your true purpose for studying medicine? hope that you will keep tat purpose in your mind and be a great doctor. ^^

[Cox's Bazar]

Nice to find you back! You have told me earlier that your submission deadline is first of June. Anyways, well done. I am still not getting my offer letter. I don’t know when this bad time shall end.

Well, yep! After attending the seminar I posted you all the details of examination conduction and had also sent a thread with the title: Exam Style: How the Russians Will Take Your Test (http://www.valuemd.com/russian-medical-schools/157126-exam-style-how-russians-will-take-your-test.html) . Hope there is going to be a great deal discussion about this topic among the forum members and many people who don’t know about the exams styles of Russia will be benefited.

My future of medicine is where I don’t know. Sometimes I feel I must go for the USMLE and practice in the States. Sometimes the image of my country floats in my mind. Its then I think I must get back to me country and practice. Well, whatever the case may be, all I know right for the moment is that I by becoming a doctor I must serve those people who need help; who are the most helpless. From a website I read that it is better to keep your mind open about choosing your field of specialty unless your clinical year comes that is during the third or fourth year. I am a bit enthusiastic about cardiology and gynecology. Do you have any choice from right now? Or are you about to consider it later. I am not criticizing any of the fields and am also going to consider about keeping my mind open. It’s cardiology and gynecology that really interest me. That’s all.

Anything new about you? Please do mention.

Bye.
Take Care.

[edward89]

Hi there,

i think u will hv to wait patiently and in the mean time get ready for your medical checkup, passport, life insurance and etc (original documents) as the agent might need it once you get ur offer letter. i hope you won't be suffering like mine when i get my offer letter and rushed to complete everything jz in time.

Dun get bothered with these stuff that soon. we'll be able to decide where we'll do our practice once we hv completed our studies either it's USMLE or our own country. I might introduce u another option which is going to MSF (Doctors without border) jz in case you are interested. Mdecins Sans Frontires International Homepage (http://www.msf.org)

I agree with you in the point of choosing speciality fields only after our clincal years come. My friends hv also bothered me with questions like this all the time too. by the way, which website you are viewing tat says about it? i might want to take a look too. thanks. I have some thoughts about it too especially in the orthopaedic surgeon, cardiac surgeon, neurosurgeon, cardiologist... you might want to visit this list: (Different types of medical specialists? - Yahoo! Answers (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070302214109AAJYGxK))
and something i post in (http://www.valuemd.com/russian-medical-schools/157362-tver-m2-ryazan-orthopedics-pg.html)

There's something about me recently and tat's about laziness and wondering aimlessly... i dunno how i got it, mayb it's from the long term holiday. do u face tat problem? can u teach me how to overcome it? ... or mayb time will heal it. haha. sorry to bother you about it.

take care.

[Cox's Bazar]

Hi Buddy!

Thanx a lot for the encouragement you keep on giving me. It increases my spirit level and also my hopes. Though my A level results had been out since long on the internet but my original certificates have not been out yet. I need to check with the British Council about this sooner. I shall take your advice of pre-arranging my important document so that I don’t have to rush.

I guess you are right about the fact that we should not get bothered about our fields of specialty right from now. What is vitally important is to get admission and start our life once again anew in the field of medicine. But I did not understand what you said about MSF. What’s that? Some kind of equivalent to USMLE? Well, the website I visited cannot remember clearly now but it was article from the website of AMERICAN-CANADIAN JOINT GROUP OF MEDICAL SCHOOL SOCIETY or something like that called the AAMCC network or something like that. You can check out with the google. I guess that’s gonna be enough informative with you.

Are you telling of laziness? You must be kidding then, I am sure. Because my situation is the worst. I am probably even lazier than you. But when? Only when nobody creates pressure on me, when I think that okay if I don’t do the job somebody else is gonna do it for me. And about WONDERING? I am an expert on this. Just give me a chance and I don’t know how it comes inside me but I start getting lost. Sometimes I start doing it without a purpose especially when at home I don’t feel like staying anymore. I walk down the lake and watch at the what the people do around me. Or I get myself lost in the busy streets of a local market. I simply see at things and observe them. I like watching new things around me, like to rediscover the old and everyday happening things in a new way. Last year when I visited the Cox’s Bazar sea beach which is the longest unbroken beach in the world here in my country, I simply got footloose myself all around the beach and found thought as if there was so one else and only me while floating on the waters…..I think that’s getting rather boring and probably the moderator won’t be liking this really. You can PM for about other topics and so can I. But I did not actually understand what you really meant by wandering. What do you actually when you wander?

I guess what we would actually get to enjoy the beauty of a new culture, of a new country once we are there in Russia.

And there is one strange thing about me. Sometimes I get unpredictable. I don’t stick to one thing. For example, sometimes I write so formally to my friend and at times I really get informal. Just like now I am writing to informally – hope you don’t get bothered. My style changes after a certain periods of time and then again I go back to my old style. The same thing happens in case of my attitude even and sometimes my friends look into my eyes so unbelievingly…………that it puts in great trouble thinking who is this new chap!!! At times I think this shall change with time and sometimes I feel this one day is going to put me in great trouble. Sounds a bit odd but still asking you do you know any remedy to this disease. ha ha ha……..okay by for the moment …


Take Care

[Cox's Bazar]

I shall be not be online for the next three to four days. So hope u understand. I will be back soon. Untill then do keep in touch and pls wait for me.
N.B. I guess I write much. If so pls let me know then I shall put things in short.

Bye

[Cox's Bazar]

Okay I am back. Whatz up? Hopes things getting well with you edward. I guess u must be spending a lot of free time now. Tell me r u gonna miss ur friends when u will get there in ksmu? I guess so. How many frineds do u have? Are they real friends, buddy?

[Cox's Bazar]

Edward, what about the culture shock experienc thats gonna be at russia? Have any ideas from your friends? Recently from a very goood online buddy I learnt some schocking points. I guess the environemnt of Malaysia, Indonesia, Arab countries and here in the subcontinent of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh is alike.

[edward89]

i guess it's alike. i din ask tat much from my friends over there. my aim is only studying.

srry for not replying. i think we'll hv to leave behind everything and start a new life over there. it's gonna b tough but soon later we'll get used to it. so i do not worry about culture there nor friends at here... it's not like we're not coming back to our own country. ;)

how r u application? i heard there r some new brazillians enrolled into the uni recently. my departure will b at the 1rst or 2nd week of sept due to some technical probs by my agent. i jz dunno wat they are doing.

anyway, hope to meet u there. =)

[chibuike]

hello pls,iam a medical student in ukraine,i want someone to help me.i am a 5th year medical student in ukraine,but i want to transfer to ksmu,and i need help from my follow student not a contractor.i need to transfer by septenber

[Cox's Bazar]

edward, buddy that was a breath taking reply u gave me after soooo long. what was the matter? were u too busy? okay, anywaz u replied, that's great news 4 me as i was missing u. okay now lets get back 2 u.

yep buddy study is the main stuff no doubt but once u leave 4 abroad u need 2 create a friend circle with whom u can interact. Glad 2 learn once again of ur determination in studies. yes, in that case one can live only 2 practice and study medicine.

Buddy, I am still sitting idle. No offer letter yet. Just imagine my part of panicking! i don't know what i have done.

Class starts strictly from first sunday of sept. and if u miss even one single class then u have to do later on these classes or else they won't let u sit 4 exams. that's my info. Agents ussually do this bcoz they everytime have some proccessing works left out. Pressurize ur agent to send u guys in group and also right from the first class. If possible talk with other members of your group who r going with u. Talk with ur agent in group.

Buddy there is a lot of responsibilities awaiting 4 me. I need 2 also think about my parents and there efforts. I need 2 do something 4 them. After all how long should i be depending on them. And now i am feeling this pressure more as the situation is worse with me.

I don't know whether there is any prayer hall for muslim girls so to offer salat/namaz as i am a muslim.

Buddy tell me what wa ur problem in replying late?

Okay, hope 2 see u too very soon.

Bye & Take Care.

[Cox's Bazar]

Chibuike, this is 4 u.

As per my info, the Russian uni would ask u for a one year drop that is u would be starting from 4th year probably. Its good 2 learn u want to contract via students but unfortunately or fortunately u need 2 go in Russia via agents only. That’s the system buddy. But tell me why u wanna shift now? Is the Ukrainian degree awarded not recognized?

Ask 4 any other help.

Bye & Take Care.

[chibuike]

ksmu have been teaching in eglish for past 36yrs that why,and i think is more recognize in my country.pls do u knw any agent that can help,i need to upten my degree in ksmu.

[bpoichan]

for the past 36 years?? i thought it was for the past 278 years.. i guess i was wrong..

[chibuike]

so can u help?

[bpoichan]

i dont think that ksmu is the best place to go in med school in Russia.. but nope i cant help..

[Cox's Bazar]

Okay bpoichan, buddy calm down; chill.

Chibuike, ksmu English medium started probably from 1994. So that’s probably 14 years. Not 34! And 278 is the ranking position of ksmu out of around 300 russian universities. Am I right, bpoichan? I know u weren’t serious either.

Chibuike, I am giving you the web address of ksmu: www.ksmu.info (http://www.ksmu.info/)

You will find lists of agents in some countries and if you contact Mr. Yashoba then he might further specifically help u in locating a Ukrainian agent, I am although not sure.
This is unofficial website as the official website is in Russian. If you need I can also give u that address.

For other infos feel free 2 write.

By the way, I heard that in Ukrainian universities they provide you with notes. Is it true? Can u email me with samples of he first year MD? I just wanted to have a look.

Bye.

[Cox's Bazar]

Okay bpoichan, buddy calm down; chill.

Chibuike, ksmu English medium started probably from 1994. So that’s probably 14 years. Not 34! And 278 is the ranking position of ksmu out of around 300 russian universities. Am I right, bpoichan? I know u weren’t serious either.

Chibuike, I am giving you the web address of ksmu: www.ksmu.info (http://www.ksmu.info/)

You will find lists of agents in some countries and if you contact Mr. Yashoba then he might further specifically help u in locating a Ukrainian agent, I am although not sure.
This is unofficial website as the official website is in Russian. If you need I can also give u that address.

For other infos feel free 2 write.

By the way, I heard that in Ukrainian universities they provide you with notes. Is it true? Can u email me with samples of he first year MD? I just wanted to have a look.

Bye.

[Cox's Bazar]

Bpoichan, I can understand your feelings. The fact that you have had enough of connections and experience with the Russian universities; so u know the real and fake faces of these universities. But have you ever thought that even b4 leaving Canada u urself did not know about the Russian universities and that is the reason why u chose MMA at the first place. The same problem is with others who now r in the place once you were standing in long b4 joining PFU. So u need 2 convince people by first providing them with info of both sides n then leaving the rest on them 2 decide. Zapomnichey, pajshalucta, I don’t say this uni is good or that uni bad.

Yes PFU is good n it also has the advantage of being in the centre of stalitsa Maskbha. No doubt, eta ocheen xarasho gorad. Meenye nrabiatciya zanyat ee starii gorad. Ya tojshey lublio gabarich pa ruski. Ya nrabitciya intanitsia bey ruskii izik. A bhi?:D

But ksmu and other uni are options 4 those who has their government approved them. And I don’t think such people would then do wrong.:cool:

Hope u don’t mind buddy! It’s always great 4 me 2 talk with such helpful and communicative persons like you.;)

Bye n take care.
dasvidanya

[bpoichan]

cox's!!
good job with your russian!

when i said 278.. i meant 278 years old english program not its ranking! ;)

I actually went through lots of problems when I first came to Russia and fell into the hungry mouthes of lots of so-called agents.
That is why i am extensively posting on this site (Though I am busy with work) to always make sure that those interested in studying in Russia would have relevant and actual information.
take care and good luck!

salam!

[Cox's Bazar]

bpoichan, thanks u praised me of my russian. i am really glad 2 learn that my russian is really in progress.:D

well, in one website i actually saw the ranking of ksmu 278 so i wrote.;)

i understand. agents r not reliable at all. i am now facing the SAME problem. my agent is still making me wait n offer letter has not come yet. Aug probably. i don't know.:(

the real problem is that 2 enter any russian uni u need 2 go via agents.:mad:

yep! it is our sole responsibility 2 inform others of those things which we consider good 4 us. And that is what exactly u r doing.:p

are u a canadian by origin or r ur parents from other place? just curious 2 know. hope u would not mind.

anyways, do keep in touch. it was great 2 have a good reply from u.

salam

[bpoichan]

yes I am 100% north american ..reverted to islam at 15 (christianity just did not cut if for me ;)).

as for agents.. you dont need to go through 2 agents..
the typical scenario is that every med school has an ' authorized' agent..ie: Saman(though he is a crook himself) for MMA and RSMU...or NIMALAN for PFU.. etc..
if you are able to find the ' authorized' agent of the school..then you ll be ok..and wont need to go through any one else..
but when you are new and dont know who is who.. ANYONE .. LITTERALLY ANYONE ( guys like Mikhail...and more..even students from the school!!) can tell you they are agent.. they are actually people that take your documents (passport copies.. school transcripts...etc..) for a fee..and then take it to the ' authorized' agent..
some of those fake agents may even ask you to pay ALL the tuition fee to them ....and disappear even! (it happened in St petersburg from an agent called SAILAN)
you then end up paying for nothing..

The best is to contact DIRECTLY the school yourself..
they ll tell you what to do.

I can be of help for PFU only as I know the people there.. but KSMU.. i am not sure.. but you ll find lots of Lebanese.. indian, sri lankan fake agents..so beware..even well spoken Russians!!!
A few years ago at RSMU a lady called SEEMA.. took all the money from prospective students (about 50 students) and ran away.. and now she is back there.. her agency has SIMA name in it, I forgot the name of it.. so please watch out for those thinking of RSMU.

By the way.. dont pay any attention to the rankings of russian med schools.. or anything in Russia.. it is all crap.
the Ministry of education wont bouge an inch to really do the appropriate research.. but they ll give all the ** to make you believe so..
It is hard to explain..but that's typical Russian S**T.

wa salaam.
by the way .. where are YOU from?

[chibuike]

thanks alot for the mail and information.the fact remains that,i want to get my deploma in russia universities.but incase u knw any school that is good and have a hight standard other than ksmu,pls due tell me.i will love to finshe up in russia medical university cos of some good reason.about the agent,i dnt knw how to contact them,even that of ksmu agent,i will love to contact him.in ukraine,the dnt give us note,we always study in school web page.all our work is in school web page from yr 1 to final yr.thanks

[ashtonyapbz]

Dear All,

hey my name is ashton alexander..i am a student at KSMU.. please email me at ashtonyapbz(hotmail) or add my msn at nemesis9000(hotmail) if u have any questions..btw..dont get the textbooks please for those goin for pre-med..you wont use it.. i should be able to answer most of the questions u have, thats if u still have any.. i would definitely be seeing you..haha class president and class representative for my batch..so yea....its a force thing..haha..not that i would mind.. hope to hear from u soon.. just remember not to get the textbooks..if ur applying for pre-med and 1st year..i would probably be able to answer all your questions..i will try !!..

ashton alexander

[edward89]

pardon me? any reasons for saying not to buy the textbooks for pre-med?

[edward89]

ashton,
seems like u r trying to advertising urself by copy-paste the exact same comments in THREE different posts. what's ur purpose for doing so? it jz seem weird for me. and which batch are u in? do u know when is the 1rst day for the lesson to start for pre-med? how many new ppl hv enrolled into the uni this yr especially for pre-med? and which is the books list for pre-med since u told us not to buy any textbooks? we aren't going there empty-handed though.

thanks.

[hocklee]

hi.is there anyone out there from ksmu who wishes to sell his/her microbiology chakraborty book?thanks