Where you CAN/CANNOT do residency/practice in the US

[Southerndoc]

I recently went to a seminar held for Xavier and met with the directors on the board of admissions. This is what they clearly told me:

- You CANNOT do residency OR practice in California...ever.
- You CAN do residency AND practice in Texas, but you must be the 'creme of the crop' in the pool...meaning your USMLEs all need to at least be 90% or above.
- You CANNOT do residency or practice in Tennessee AND Nebraska because they have a "No medical student accepted unless the school they graduated from is 15 years or older" rule. Xavier still has a decade to go before that happens.
- You CAN only practice in New York IF you do 12 WEEKS of your rotations in the state. If you go over and do 13, you will not be allowed to practice, and if you don't complete all 12 weeks, you will also not be able to practice. This is a very WEIRD rule, but it's there. It is possible for you to transfer and do a 12 week rotation anywhere you want as long as you know someone or have a doctor who is willing to take care of you there. That's the only way transferring to NY for 3 months would be possible in this scenario.
-You CAN do residency AND practice in Florida, but it's pretty much like Texas in that it is almost impossible unless you have brilliant scores and stats.

3 states you cannot do residency or practice in AT ALL if you graduate from Xavier:
1) CALIFORNIA
2) NEBRASKA
3) TENNESSEE

3 states you CAN do residency and practice in if you graduate from Xavier and do amazingly well are, like FREAKISHLY AMAZINGLY WELL:
1) TEXAS
2) FLORIDA
3) NEW YORK

All other states are fair game and you can match for residency and practice there just like any other U.S. medical school would allow you to.

Anyone can add on to what I have up there or can correct me if I'm wrong about anything. This info. is straight from the horse's mouth though, so it can be trusted.

I'm most likely joining Aruba in the Fall, waiting on hearing back from the school now.

[ams]

First of the horse's mouth has bad breath........lol

No but I wouldnt believe everything they would have to say...bc there are alot of inconsistencies. You need to do your own research, and check with each state what the req. are

everything you wrote sounds right, exceapt for the new york part.

the ruling i heard about was, if you do more than 12 weeks of rotations in New york, you can do your residency there. Now I dont know how accurate that...but thats whats been said for quite a while now.

You can do residency in NYC with out ever doing rotations there. INFACT, I know 3 people who never did rotations in the states and matched this year in New york, (2 in Internal med, 1 in surgery). They were saying that the hospitals they matched at were full of FMGs. And I know a whole bunch of people who have done residency there and are practicining.

New York is one of the bigger states that takes in alot of FMGs, and I know for a fact if you never did rotations there, you can still get residency and practice there.

[AUCMD2006]

the sorce is corrupt residency is easier and you may or may not be able to do them in most states except california, new jersey, pennsylvania, florida, and new york(limited rotations unless approved) for an unrestriced license:

1)CALIFORNIA is out plus about half a dozen or more states that use theor list officially and unoficially...unfortunately the unoficial ones you have to wait until you apply to learn they will not take you
2)Nebraska-is out
3)tennessee is one that usues the cali list unofficialy
4)Kansas-is out they are the ones with the 15 year rule


1)Texas-is tough and they will tell you its case by case. what case by case entails is proving that xavier is equivalent to a texas lcme med school by proving that facilities, professor qualifications, libraries, research, admission criteria, mcat scores, curriculum, etc is equivalent to a texas med school so it is an uphill battle
2)Florida-doable but a lot of paperwork. fellow resident just went through it and they wanted her high school transcripts so a lot of paperwork

also oregon, indiana, texas and a few others maintain a list of unacceptable schools and many states will not license you if your school is disapproved in another state so thats also something to watch out for

basically don't beleive anything anyone tells you, research these unfortunately though most states will not give you an answer and will tell you case by case. basically until a few people from your school have a full unrestriced license in a state it is up in the air. additionally a slow move is being made for states to use cali list or make one themselves ber the fsmb recommendations. basically the list above from the information meeting is grossly incomplete

[Southerndoc]

Thanks for the info guys, it definitely helps to get info. from people who actually know other residents or students who are doing residency/practicing in those particular states.

Are you serious about Florida asking that friend for her high school transcript? That's ABSURD. I figure once you're in med. school it is your med. school grades, gpa, and ULSME scores that are the only factors states need to consider..undergrad. shouldn't even be considered for residency or licensing. If that's the case, then most carib. students are in for a pickle...I mean if we all had amazing undergrad. stats we would've been going to US schools in the first place. After getting through med. school on an island and making certain sacrifices, it would suck to not be able to practice in a certain state because of your undergrad record...I guess it's true, your past really does haunt you.

[AUCMD2006]

clarification, the forst part of what i said with new york was for med student rotations not residency. in new yoprk you are limited to 12 weeks rotation as a med student unless the school is approved for rotations but residency is open.

as far as florida they wanted the high schools and undergrad transcripts to verify credentials only, i don't think the grades mattered just that she had high school and graduated undergrad

[Xavier Admissions]

I recently went to a seminar held for Xavier and met with the directors on the board of admissions. This is what they clearly told me:

- You CANNOT do residency OR practice in California...ever.
- You CAN do residency AND practice in Texas, but you must be the 'creme of the crop' in the pool...meaning your USMLEs all need to at least be 90% or above.
- You CANNOT do residency or practice in Tennessee AND Nebraska because they have a "No medical student accepted unless the school they graduated from is 15 years or older" rule. Xavier still has a decade to go before that happens.
- You CAN only practice in New York IF you do 12 WEEKS of your rotations in the state. If you go over and do 13, you will not be allowed to practice, and if you don't complete all 12 weeks, you will also not be able to practice. This is a very WEIRD rule, but it's there. It is possible for you to transfer and do a 12 week rotation anywhere you want as long as you know someone or have a doctor who is willing to take care of you there. That's the only way transferring to NY for 3 months would be possible in this scenario.
-You CAN do residency AND practice in Florida, but it's pretty much like Texas in that it is almost impossible unless you have brilliant scores and stats.

3 states you cannot do residency or practice in AT ALL if you graduate from Xavier:
1) CALIFORNIA
2) NEBRASKA
3) TENNESSEE

3 states you CAN do residency and practice in if you graduate from Xavier and do amazingly well are, like FREAKISHLY AMAZINGLY WELL:
1) TEXAS
2) FLORIDA
3) NEW YORK

All other states are fair game and you can match for residency and practice there just like any other U.S. medical school would allow you to.

Anyone can add on to what I have up there or can correct me if I'm wrong about anything. This info. is straight from the horse's mouth though, so it can be trusted.

I'm most likely joining Aruba in the Fall, waiting on hearing back from the school now.

It is Kansas with the "lenght of operation" clause, not Nebraska.

[Xavier Admissions]

First of the horse's mouth has bad breath........lol

No but I wouldnt believe everything they would have to say...bc there are alot of inconsistencies. You need to do your own research, and check with each state what the req. are

everything you wrote sounds right, exceapt for the new york part.

the ruling i heard about was, if you do more than 12 weeks of rotations in New york, you can do your residency there. Now I dont know how accurate that...but thats whats been said for quite a while now.

You can do residency in NYC with out ever doing rotations there. INFACT, I know 3 people who never did rotations in the states and matched this year in New york, (2 in Internal med, 1 in surgery). They were saying that the hospitals they matched at were full of FMGs. And I know a whole bunch of people who have done residency there and are practicining.

New York is one of the bigger states that takes in alot of FMGs, and I know for a fact if you never did rotations there, you can still get residency and practice there.

The clause with NY is that you "cannot complete MORE than 12 weeks of clinical rotations" and still be eligible for license there. In other words, less than 12 weeks and you are ok.