School Does Exist But....

[AVOIDTHENOID]

albiet different form. merely a shadow of itself during the "hayday". you can check it out yourself in downtown san pedro. it is just a typical non descript small building where it has been converted into some class rooms and there is a portable outback used as a anatomy lab. student count: less than 10. professor count:4 the school rep said this is not the ideal solution because it sure seemed gaudy. but the school will be back soon in the original building and then again may just occupy a portion of the building and not the whole campus as the good 'ol days. i was there a few years back. i have since transfered but san pedro has stolen my heart. my posts are not meant to condone or promote mua belize. STAY AWAY FROM MUA BELIZE. choose a program that is stable and the wheels are not coming off like this school. i just cannot stand sensationalization and lies. enough is enough.

[JMoff67]

and why aren't they answering their phones? the address is still listed on the website as 1000 coconut drive, the location of the boarded up building that I saw, and also matches pictures in the uploaded photos on this website - looks like a scam to me.

[Anthony Thomasson]

The school is indeed a scam, if you are speaking of getting a legitimate medical education. I pity the poor, ignorant souls who are there wasting time and treasure. Be smart. Stay away from MUA BELIZE. Find a real medical school and pursue your dream.

[AVOIDTHENOID]

having mua belize students in residency. i know this to be true because of 2 off my schoolmates are both in internal medicine one in the state of LA and the other one is in North Carolina. Obviously for them to get to that juncture they had to have completed USMLE'S, but if it is a "scam" then how did they qualify to write the exams? if it is a "scam" how come it is recognized by IMED and WHO? if it is a "scam" why is the office in the U.S. and licensed as a medical institution in new england? i left mua belize sometime ago, but the school as i saw it, never "scammed me" i left because i was forced to after loans were dropped. i went because from the get go the school was backed by SABA. the only scam is somebody claiming they went and had a vacation on ambegris caye and immediately it turned into somesort of dateline nbc investigation and the some random person from the u.s. has such zeal and passion to find out what is happening at some foriegn medical school and right away was able to get intel when the rest of us it took years to develop an understanding of what is going on. there's nobody on vacation. it is the same batch with alter egos. mua belize is not very good but that holds true for all belize schools. but some of this fishy comments are really off the cuff. give it a rest.

[JMoff67]

What's fishy is a website that has information listed that is not correct. There is no med school at 1000 coconut drive - no one answers the phone, there aren't even any faculty members listed on this website! After reading the postings on this site and digging into this I am truly shocked that they do not have some sort of announcement on the website of the status. If they are only staying open with limited operations and have moved then they should state that - to not do so looks like a scam operation.

I had a great vacation on the island though...ate at jambal jerk every chance I got...shark-*** alley? awesome - best snorkeling ever - and the people on San Pedro are terrific. I highly recommend the island for a vacation, but for your medical education?...........

Why do I bother? I tried to find this place myself and am just reporting what I saw - I only post here to warn any potential students (I work with pre-med undergraduates every day) - no matter what the school please do plenty of research before you give your hard earned money and mental energy to any school.

cheers

[Yossarrian]

Gee Gosh, AVOIDTHENOID sure sounds like BillyBill, Carebear, SaveDafur-same old tired defense of an operation that has no defensible position. My former landlord told me that the former dean holds classes in her home. That does not sound like a new administration to me. Yossarrian

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Gee Gosh, AVOIDTHENOID sure sounds like BillyBill, Carebear, SaveDafur-same old tired defense of an operation that has no defensible position. My former landlord told me that the former dean holds classes in her home. That does not sound like a new administration to me. Yossarrian


I was thinking that too.


I am learning first-hand about reincarnations here.

[jadedKnight]

She IS holding classes in her home. Same old, same old.

[Anthony Thomasson]

Yes I agree. A "new" poster with only 4 posts and and a foundation of knowledge of the situation begins to weigh in? Wow what are the odds of that?

Avoidthenoid, Billy, SaveDarfur, Rrenee, CareBears: Gosh just go away. You should praise god if there are ten fools on the planet who are sitting in your one room shack, paying you "tuition" and thinking that they are actually getting a respectable medical education!

Wow, talk about people not being able to see the Emporer is not wearing any clothes!

Sheesh!

[stephew]

everyone should reflect and review the tos right now.

[dt]

I can see it now: MD1 in the bedroom, MD2 in the kitchen, MD3 in the living room, MD4 in the patio.

But where would the anatomy lab be?

[AVOIDTHENOID]

Quite the opposite, it is not a home of any kind. it is at least from what i saw a out of business store building that was converted for school use for the time being. you just watch soon the school will return to it's campus. long live mua belize. granted i did bail out and move on to a different school. but i will never forget san pedro. i only wish all of you the best.

[Anthony Thomasson]

Quite the opposite, it is not a home of any kind. it is at least from what i saw a out of business store building that was converted for school use for the time being. you just watch soon the school will return to it's campus. long live mua belize. granted i did bail out and move on to a different school. but i will never forget san pedro. i only wish all of you the best.

To anyone considering MUA BELIZE:

MUA Belize has NO licensed graduates in America, NO licensed graduates in Belize AND, NO licensed graduates in any other country! NO buildings owned (rented rooms only), NO medical center or hospital, NO University affiliation, NO undergraduate programs, NO Masters programs, NO medical research, NO ACGME (Green book) approved clinical rotations, NO federal loan programs (either Belize or American), NO DOE approval, NO State approvals, NO CT, Doppler or any other medical technology, NO campus/ infrastructure etc...And all this despite the fact that they have been in existence since 2001!

Now that you know the above, would you consider the above a medical school? I would say they have NO "Medical School" either!

Everything else "Avoidthenoid", or anyone else tells you on this forum in support of this entity are lies, deceptions and deliberate misinformation, all in order to get money from your bank account into theirs!

There are Plenty of Better Choices in the Caribbean!

Want a medical education in this area? Better to go to Ross, St. Georges, AUC, SABA, MUA NEVIS, St. Matthews or AUA (all in no particular order). Each one has some sort of outside body approval and each one has made an investment in their school to some degree. Talk to students, visit the campus' then make a wise decision only after reviewing the pro's and the con's.

Heed others' mistakes - stay far away from MUA Belize!!!

Best of Luck!

[AVOIDTHENOID]

Does aua Have Licensed Grads? Does saba Have A Hospital? Does st.matthews Have U.s. Federal Loan Programs? Does mua Nevis Have University Affiliation? Curious, Why Does Mua Nevis And Mua Belize Use the Same Rotations Sites In Some Places? That Must Mean Mua Nevis Has Non-acgme Approved Rotations. Using The Ill Thought Out Biased Slanted Unsubstanaited Unreal Expectations Logic, Anthony Meant To Say To Stay Away From all Caribbean Schools. Just Consider The Perfect One That He Is Privilieged To Attend (aguism).

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Does aua Have Licensed Grads? Does saba Have A Hospital? Does st.matthews Have U.s. Federal Loan Programs? Does mua Nevis Have University Affiliation? Curious, Why Does Mua Nevis And Mua Belize Use the Same Rotations Sites In Some Places? That Must Mean Mua Nevis Has Non-acgme Approved Rotations. Using The Ill Thought Out Biased Slanted Unsubstanaited Unreal Expectations Logic, Anthony Meant To Say To Stay Away From all Caribbean Schools. Just Consider The Perfect One That He Is Privilieged To Attend (aguism).


And so it begins...

(capitalizing the first letter of each word)

[Anthony Thomasson]

Does aua Have Licensed Grads? Does saba Have A Hospital? Does st.matthews Have U.s. Federal Loan Programs? Does mua Nevis Have University Affiliation? Curious, Why Does Mua Nevis And Mua Belize Use the Same Rotations Sites In Some Places? That Must Mean Mua Nevis Has Non-acgme Approved Rotations. Using The Ill Thought Out Biased Slanted Unsubstanaited Unreal Expectations Logic, Anthony Meant To Say To Stay Away From all Caribbean Schools. Just Consider The Perfect One That He Is Privilieged To Attend (aguism).

Talk about the preverbial bad penny! If anyone had any doubts as to who AVOIDTHE NOID is, I think its our very familiar MUA BELIZE owners, trying yet again, to scratch up a few ill informed recruits (perhaps the admins. can verify this with a IP address check?). I was hoping that you, my dear R.S. and hubby would have gone back to the Dakotas by now, but apparently no such luck...

There was so much you said that made no sense, like:

"Ill Thought Out Biased Slanted Unsubstanaited Unreal Expectations Logic"

But hey, i'm a good sport. I'll take a stab at it anyway. I think you may have wanted to write "unsubstantiated." Everything I stated about your "school" (MUA Belize) is known to be true and verifiable. As for "Unreal Expectations", I think its fair to expect from a real medical school - all the expected academic qualifications, facilities, approvals, recognitions, peer approval, reasonable statistics on graduates, licensure, loan programs, ACGME clinicals etc.

By any standard imaginable, your "medical school" can't withstand the whiff test. Can you imagine if 60 minutes or Dateline came down to San Pedro and did an expose on your "medical school"?

BTW, what does this mean? "The Perfect One That He Is Privilieged To Attend (aguism)"

As long as we can warn some off your school, and point them in a more legitimate direction, I'll feel like we did a good deed. For those too naive to listen or too ignorant to research or too blind to see with their own eyes, well, there's little we can do.

Good thing I log on every few months, eh? Haha!

[JMoff67]

Does aua Have Licensed Grads? Does saba Have A Hospital? Does st.matthews Have U.s. Federal Loan Programs? Does mua Nevis Have University Affiliation? Curious, Why Does Mua Nevis And Mua Belize Use the Same Rotations Sites In Some Places? That Must Mean Mua Nevis Has Non-acgme Approved Rotations. Using The Ill Thought Out Biased Slanted Unsubstanaited Unreal Expectations Logic, Anthony Meant To Say To Stay Away From all Caribbean Schools. Just Consider The Perfect One That He Is Privilieged To Attend (aguism).

If anyone wants to know who this is just read through the posts and note which ones have posts with the first letter of each word capitalized. These are not legitimate posts nor is this a legitimate medical school, I think ValueMD moderaters need to do something about this.

It is good thing you log on to this site periodically Anthony, and I think you are right on have you ever tried to turn on some US news agencies to this scam?