Do all failed/repeated courses show up on your transcript?

[DrNick23]

If you repeat a class/semester, does the new grade replace the old one or do both show up

It sucks having to already think about this but I literally could've guessed on every single question and statistically done about the same (30s...totally underestimated how much studying I needed)...and if what I've heard is true about the three dropped biochem questions, then I'm even more screwed since I got all three of those right. What are the odds...:/

[thecure4u]

If you repeat a class/semester, does the new grade replace the old one or do both show up

It sucks having to already think about this but I literally could've guessed on every single question and statistically done about the same (30s...totally underestimated how much studying I needed)...and if what I've heard is true about the three dropped biochem questions, then I'm even more screwed since I got all three of those right. What are the odds...:/

No. If you repeat a semester, the grades replace your other grades. It cuts both ways though. If you repeat a class that you got a B in and end up with a C, you get a C.

Not to be a debbie downer, but if you got in the 30's, you'll be lucky to get to repeat. I'm sorry to be blunt about this, but bringing a 30 up to a passing score or even close to a passing score would be unbelievable. It's not impossible but it's highly unlikely. If it's just one class, that's one thing. If it's 30's in all of your classes, I'd quit and cut your losses. I'm serious. Go home and get your head straight. If med school is something that you really want to do, some other school will take you. Just be sure you're ready for it the next time around.

Look, I'm sorry to be so harsh. I'm usually not. It's just that I've seen alot of these posts from 1st semesters lately and I guess I just don't understand. If you look at the front page, there are 3 threads with almost this exact topic. Med school is not easy yet it seems more and more that this batch of first semester students at Ross are either underestimating it or not taking it seriously. I know mini 1 first semester can be a shock. It was to me. I never expected to be concerned what MPS was. By the Friday after the mini, I was.

To all the current and future 1st semesters, med school ain't undergrad. The days of studying the weekend before the exam and getting a B a over. Deal with it and get to work.

[colonel01]

Plenty of people dont nail the 1st MT!! In fact, most of the people I knew failed at least one subject. I know 5 people including myself who made it through ross without failing a single semester. There was a student who got a 25 on the first MT and got a passing grade in biochem. Does this mean dont worry about it? NO. It means wake up, smell the roses, go to office hours and put in the amount of time that you need to be. Good LUCK!

[papaya]

(30s...totally underestimated how much studying I needed)...

This is an accelerated program so really you need to be studying the majority of the day and give yourself a half day off each week at most, especially now that you need to bring these grades up.

I keep seeing so many people in your semester partying, and I don't get it, how can you possibly party, and still keep up with the material???

I suggest going to the behavioral office and asking to speak to the cognitive skills advisor KW, since I cannot post names here, and tell him you need help on your study habits.

You need to revamp your study habits. Don't give up but make school your #1 priority and never underestimate how much time you need to spend studying, always overdo it and you will never fall short.

Good luck.

[jabee_usm]

Yep, I agree with Papaya fruit!:D

[stephew]

are you sure about that? I would think repeats show up on trascript. And who gets a B and retakes a class?

[papaya]

stephew,

I think what thecure4u is saying is that when a student repeats a semester, they repeat classes that they passed plus the ones they failed, so if they score lower in the ones they previously passed, they get all the new grades in their gpa from the repeat semester (the gpas are not averaged or the best grades are not taken).

So that student may pass the class they previously failed and now fail the class they previously passed, and it will show up on their gpa with all the new grades. Wow, that sounds confusing, sorry, I hope that made sense.

[DrNick23]

No. If you repeat a semester, the grades replace your other grades. It cuts both ways though. If you repeat a class that you got a B in and end up with a C, you get a C.

The days of studying the weekend before the exam and getting a B a over. Deal with it and get to work.

Yeah I feel like an idiot for having to find that out the hard way (despite knowing on some level that it wouldn't work out too well)

And yeah it was just biochem, just to clarify.

[thecure4u]

are you sure about that? I would think repeats show up on trascript. And who gets a B and retakes a class?

At Ross, when you fail a class, you have to repeat the entire semester. In order to keep full time status, you have to take at least least 10 hours. That means if you fail biochem and get A's or B's in everything else, you still have to retake at least some of the classes that you got A's to make sure you're at 10 hours. If you do worse, the grade you got the second time is the one that counts. To make matters worse than that, let's say you fail a class that you passed the first time. In this situation, you'd likely get kicked out.

As far as the transcripts thing goes, I'm not 100% positive it shows up that you had to repeat courses. I do know that the new grades are what is used to calculate your GPA. The old grades are essentially wiped out at that point.

[thecure4u]

Yeah I feel like an idiot for having to find that out the hard way (despite knowing on some level that it wouldn't work out too well)

And yeah it was just biochem, just to clarify.

If it's just one class, it is possible to recover. It's still not going to be easy though. There's no more days off. You're now in the position of have to triple your efforts in one class while at the same time not neglecting you other classes. If you're serious about it, you have to take action. If you have a TV, unplug it.

My personal opinion on med school is it's not that hard at least conceptually. What get everybody is the volume of material. Despite what you might here on this forum or others, Ross is not there to make you sure you fail. All of the resources are there for you to succeed. It's up to you to figure out how to use them.

[brob311]

I keep seeing so many people in your semester partying, and I don't get it, how can you possibly party, and still keep up with the material???

Papaya, this behavior is seen in every first semester class...some worse than others. I believe our semester was branded " the class of boozehounds", I personally branded it the "class of misfits", but hey, it is all in the eye of the beholder.

This behavior will subside, and those who are still trying to carry on the animal house lifestyle in med school will be filtered out. There are those who frequent the liquid courage, that still get through though.

[mjcali]

I would have to agree with the observation that the current first semester class are not taking medical school and Ross very seriously...and I'm sorry to say that they are by far the rudest, least respectful students I've seen since I first started here last year...i.e. talking at the annex in full blown voices when NO ONE , I repeat NO ONE is talking and are all studying, or how about the racket they make at the library or even at the PACE room...when people are QUIETLY studying or how about those few first semesters who LOG OFF YOUR COMPUTER at the printing room when clearly you just stood up to get your copies...

[bcks]

hey folks, just try to deal with it. i have never been so annoyed in my entire life like i was on that campus. just do what you have to do and ignore it all. if you let it consume you for 16 months, you will lose it! i'm soo glad that i'm that campus...

[MeliG143]

First off, I am a first semester student and I find great offense to a blanket statement such as "the current first semester class are not taking medical school and Ross very seriously." If you want to say that it is your perception that we are "by far the rudest, least respectful students I've seen since I first started here last year," then that is fine because you're entitled to your own opinion. I have met some rude first semesters myself but what I see most often is that they don't purposely intend to be rude. They are figuring out the "rules" based on what they see around them. I can also say, coming from a different perspective, that I have seen EXTREMELY rude upper semester students. For example, there are SEVERAL upper semester students in the computer room that squat ALL day and sometimes for days at a time. There is this one 4th semester that comes in the morning, sets up his computer, and goes in and out of the library ALL day often leaving his belongings for HOURS. I've seen him leave his stuff, go to the gym, come back to his computer only to put a powder in his water and SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE in my ear for his ever important protein shake. I've also seen upper semesters "take a break" by putting on episodes of TV shows and laughing loudly in the library. So, I would say that you can find rude or inconsiderate people all around and from different semesters. Also, every first semester I met is taking Ross very seriously, including myself. Just because someone didn't ace all their subjects doesn't mean that they don't study and party all the time. If I recall correctly, every upper semester student I met says that usually most of the first semester class does bad on Mini 1. Mini 1 is a learning experience and people quickly change their habits. So, really, I ask for some patience on behalf of my fellow first semesters. Also, please be open-minded enough to consider that not every first semester is joking around and that we're all rude.

[thecure4u]

I never meant to turn this thread into a "this semester did that" type of thread. I'm not on the island (thank God) and haven't been since the begining of last August. By the way, life after the island is awesome! I'm so glad to be outa there. Anyways, my only basis for judgement of the current 1st semester class is this forum. From this forum, I've heard several 1st semester students talk about doing very poorly on mini 1. They didn't just fail, the bombed it. That concerns me. For that reason, I made a statement not just directed at the original poster of this thread, but to the whole 1st semester class to give them a good kick in the pants and to get them to start taking things seriously.

Every thread doesn't have to be turned into a squatting argument or a which semester is the rudest. When you guys are out of there, you're going to realize how little any of that stuff really matters. What does matter is getting off the island. Focus on that.

I know not every 1st semester student is a slacker that isn't taking med school seriously. If you aren't one of them, it's not directed toward you. If you are one of these 1st semester students, why are you reading this? Get to work!!!

[MeliG143]

I honestly believe the basis for judgment is a little skewed. A few people coming here saying "I did poorly on Mini 1" does not translate to the rest of the first semester class. Also, you have to think that the people who did well are not going to come on here just to inform people of their success. What you'll get are students who didn't do well on their Mini and they are posting here asking for help and what they need to do differently. Mostly, people want to know if they can recover if they can change their study habits.

Fortunately, I did pretty decent (averaged B's) on my Mini and I came on here to offer advice to my fellow students that are struggling. I also wanted to let them know that upper semesters have said that you can recover from a bad first Mini. However, I was a little side tracked by all of these "observations" of partying and rude first semesters that aren't taking school seriously.

So, to my fellow classmates that didn't do as well as you had liked on Mini 1, yes, you can recover. It will be hard and you will have to change how you've been approaching the packets. I've spoken to several 3rd and 4th semesters that failed not one but two sections on Mini 1 and they worked their way back to B's in those classes. Obviously, they passed first semester and are now on their way out of here. One girl said Mini 1 is hardest because you don't know how the professors test. Also, it's your first med school exam! Now that you see what you're expected to know and how professors test, the rest of the Mini's won't be as bad. This is her advice.. not mine - I'm a first semester as well. Most importantly, she says to work hard and remain optimistic. Don't even think about failing. Good luck with the rest of the semester!

[hopefulmd2]

I need some advice. I checked my mini 1 scores for first semester this morning. I did good on Anatomy, biochem, and histology (got A's and B's), however this may sound lame but i did not make it in the DPS. The MPS was 60 and i ended up gettting a 53. one more correct question and i would have made the MPS.

I did not study for DPS at all and did not even media site the lectures. I was kind of depending on what people told me that it is pretty easy, but i guess i was wrong. I studied my *** off for the other stuff so i did well. Can someone please give me some advice if i will be able to pull it off in the DPS. I am worried about it at this stage. With a 53 is it still possible to get back on the track. I mean i will obviously study my butt of for it this time and not underestimate it.

Any advice or suggestions will be appreciated. thanks...

[alphahelix]

If you repeat a class/semester, does the new grade replace the old one or do both show up

It sucks having to already think about this but I literally could've guessed on every single question and statistically done about the same (30s...totally underestimated how much studying I needed)...and if what I've heard is true about the three dropped biochem questions, then I'm even more screwed since I got all three of those right. What are the odds...:/

Yes both the grades will be shown on your transcript, but only the new grade is factored into your gpa once that failed class is repeated with a C or better.
I'm a 4th semester student and man, I asked some of these current first semesters about their courses before the mini and they were all like "Yea, it's easy, so basic, like undergrad." In medical school, even the most basic things can be hard if they want to make it that way. Many first semesters said "They asked stupid questions". Now looking back, those were not stupid questions at all since those concepts are foundations for later courses like path, pharm and they're all relevant at some point. My advice is to seek help...peer tutoring, appointment with the profs, cut out all those ** drama...you would not want a failed grade shown on your transcript because those are like hidden skeletons lurking in the closet that will be asked about later when applying for residency...Good luck!! Work harder and you'll make it via...:D

[bcks]

DO NOT neglect DPS. THere are people who failed DPS and had to repeat a semester because of it. Study for it, it's not worth staying back b/c of something like DPS!