Dominica's customer service

[RUmed]

I've been back home for the past few days and it's shocking how 'good' the customer service is here in the good 'ol USA., even at fast-food restaurants, in comparison to Dominica. People actually smile and have a genuine interest in helping you! To all the incoming students and prospects, I hope you won't be too surprised nor shocked at the rudeness you will receive on the island. The worst places, in my opinion, are at Seaside cafe, the airport customs, the school's and Portsmouth post offices, the school's administrative staff, etc.. Heck, about the only decent people are Addison the Juice Guy and Joe at the Shack!

[Ross Redneck]

Thats one thing I just don't understand about the Dominicans and caribbean people in general. The vast majority of them lack any sense of motivation to do anything. You are SO right about customer service- the workers seem just plain rude and lazy. Even wait staff who would get a bigger tip for service are lazy. Most of them are just not motivated by money. I encourage you to go to Mexico and see what the mexicans will do for a few bucks! Carry your bags, pull out chairs-etc... In Dominica, no matter how much you pay them it makes no difference. They are going to do what they are going to do.

However, a quick glance will show those few who "get the idea" and hustle for the money- the juice guy & Alexis taxi service are good examples. Those are the ones who got my business.

Just because you were born into the poverty of the island doesnt mean you have to stay in it. It is amazing where hard work will take you.

But then again, thats just the caribbean way of life- I dont understand it- and never will. I was just a visitor anyway.

RR

[RUmed]

I think there's a deep hatred they have for all of us in addition to the general bad attitudes they already possess! Once between my second and third semester, one luggage handler at the airport actually demanded that I give him 5US dollars just because he rolled a couple of my bags(65lbs each) from the luggage area to the transport area. When I handed him 5EC, he actually said "NO, US only!" ***! It goes on and on, especially at the sandwich shop and the rip-offs that goes on daily at Seaside Cafe. I miss the island but definitely not the people there. In the last couple of months on Dominca, I only go near Seaside to withdraw money from the ATM because those people just make you feel like you're not even human.

How's your residency going, RR? I am real glad to have left that place and all the special people there!

[Rao]

I am a parent and doing some research for my son.
I have been watching this forum for quite some time reqularly.
In the earlier MitchDC posts he reffered the people of the
island as freindly and helpful and the island as a paradise.
Now I got surprise why MitchDC is not responding to this
post. I really appreciate your post for giving inside information
about the behaviour of the people. More posts like this helps
us to choose the school.
I am frequently reading all MitchDC posts. He never post any thing
bad. He looks like salesperson not a moderator of the forum.


Thanks

[RossMD2006]

First of all, I'd like to say that you can't expect people to treat you like kings and queens in a third world country. I've been to a third world island before. Just as long as the 'product' they are giving you is good, then you should be happy. Just as long as they don't cheat you and give you what you are paying for then it's all good.

RUmed, you have given great advice to prospective students. However, I have been following this forum and you seem to complain a whole lot. In addition, you say that you were annoyed by all the whiners at school when you were there. You yourself whine all the time!

For crying out loud, Dominica is not a 'hell hole'. Just suck it up when times are bad and you will do fine. It's not like you are going to be starving and homeless while you are there. When you are down and out, just realize how some people may not have it as good as us in the States. Just as long you have the basics, you should be happy with what you have!

[RUmed]

RossMed2006,

Like most other incoming students, you visit this forum to seek answers. Alumni and current students like myself try our very best to answer any question any of you may have. 100% of the time, none of us ask nor receive anything for our effort. About the only time we hear anything is when you guys/gals are upset about something and you come on here and criticize us. For all of MitchDC's efforts, only one of you (BIGSOFUN) has had any sense to thanked him. The rest of you ask, receive help, and then complain. It's either, "you're sugarcoating RUSM or you're complaining too much, stop it". Rossmed2006, have you been to Dominica for an extended time yet? In the past, I have defended this University of numerous occasions and yes, I've also complained about it just as much.
As much as we'd like, there are serious problems at RUSM. No, you're right, we can't be expected to be treated like 'kings and queens' but some basic social etiquettes should be observed. You'll see what I'm talking about when you're ordering a sandwich at Seaside and the lady rolls her eyes, sighs, and grunts after every order you place. This occurs with everyone and from every worker at Seaside. Just think about this, your high school cafeteria ladies are 4x more pleasant. Despite this, I still tip them, address them as 'sir' or 'ma'mm' everytime. Most days, you'll wait a couple of minutes untill the lady stops singing or dancing around before she acknowleges with an uncomfortable "yes" or "what do you want". When you're under constant stress and time is of the essence, you don't have time to wait 20 minutes for a sandwich. Let's not even talk about the quality of food.....

[RUmed]

Rao:

MitchDC is anything but a salesperson for RUSM! His descriptions of RUSM are accurate. Plus, he know alot of the logistics of Dominica so he's probably the most helpful person on this forum. I just don't know how he finds the time to help all the prospects on here. Most people at RUSM don't even bother to come on this forum since all we'll get is "you're too bias, too nice/mean to the university, complain too much, or whatever". This is not directed at anyone but there are some real ungrateful SOBs on this forum.

The truth, as I see it, is that most Dominicans are nice and friendly; when they're not working! For whatever reasons, the gloves come off when they are on the clock.

[preppystud]

I think that as a parent, your son should not go oversea at all. Either he is not grown up, or you are just too protective. Are you also going to arrange his/her marriage?

Second, this is a place for people to get an education, it is not a place for a good vacation. I haven't been there, but I am sure that this place is much better than some of the inner city ghettos across the states.

As always, money talks. It does matter where you go, or where you live, if you have no money, you just can’t expect everyone to treat you nicely. That is just a matter of fact. The customer service that you get at McDonald’s is certainly inferior than the service that you will get at a Beverly Hill’s restaurant.



I am a parent and doing some research for my son.
I have been watching this forum for quite some time reqularly.
In the earlier MitchDC posts he reffered the people of the
island as freindly and helpful and the island as a paradise.
Now I got surprise why MitchDC is not responding to this
post. I really appreciate your post for giving inside information
about the behaviour of the people. More posts like this helps
us to choose the school.
I am frequently reading all MitchDC posts. He never post any thing
bad. He looks like salesperson not a moderator of the forum.


Thanks

[medgirl]

I am laughing so hard at all of you that have never been to the island and are insisting that is is not a "hell hole"! Let me tell you I have been on the island for 4 months and I whole heartedly agree with everything that RUMED has written in all of his posts. The Dominican's are not a friendly bunch when they are working. It's like you asked them to donate a kidney if you want to buy a bottle of water. Being on the island has never made me appreciate the life I have in the States so much. The island is tough to adjust to, but it would be MUCH more enjoyable if the people didn't have such an attitude problem. You all just wait until you get down there, I guarantee you will feel the same way.

[medic105]

Preppystud,
How come everytime you post on this website you are always putting others down. Could it be that maybe you are trying to make up for some emotional issues you had as a child? Were you not embraced enough or maybe your uncle touched you? You need to grow up and start to help others if they post a question. When do you plan on going to Ross? Maybe you should tell us when you get there so all those that you have put down on this forum can have a "private discussion" with you.

[medtekboy]

I must admit, i do agree with medic105...

[MitchDC]

I feel people are allowed to have their own opinions, such as RUMed has shared. I agree with several of the things he said and think he could expressed himself better in other things.

RAO, you may have not noticed that this post was just made today. While I do try and check the forum a couple times per day, I cannot respond immediately to every post as promptly as you apparently expected. Regardless, that is not the job of the moderator. Thanks for sharing though.

Basically what I hear RUMed saying (in not so many words) is that AMERICANS ARE THE MOST SPOILED PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. We expect our hamburgers in 30 seconds and we demand our pizza delivered in 30 minutes or expect it free. We expect our stores to have everything we might possibly want 24 hours every day and our electricity to only go out in extremely HUGE storms. We live in our huge houses and even the poorest of us have more luxury items around our homes than people from other countries ever dreamed about. We live to work while others work to keep themselves alive.

I too have had many of the experiences that RUMed has shared. I too have been frustrated at some of the customer service I have received at some businesses in Dominica. SOME of it even is the fault of the employee. But I've found that most of my frustration stems from the fact that I am just plain SPOILED. Most of the people who serve me here live, with their whole family, in a shack the size of a small guest bedroom in my home back in the States. Many of these shacks don't have running water and some don't have electricity. When I've performed a nutritional analysis on some, they say they eat when they can and when the fruit or vegetables are in season. They are from a line of fellow human beings who were brought here as slaves and abandoned by Europeans who decided to leave. While they may dress neatly and look professional when they work on campus, they probably slept on the floor in their homes and some washed their clothes in the rivers before them came to work. WE ARE SPOILED. How dare we complain that they are not looking out for us??

Despite their rough lives, they are typically very friendly to us when we are friendly to them. If you take some time to get to know the people of Dominica (not just at the restaurants or when the clean your house), you will find some of the most genuinely friendly and happy people you've ever met. If you take a second to smile and thank a Domincan for helping you with something, you will have a friend forever. How often do you think students go out of their way for the Dominicans? RARELY. How do you feel about that? Yeah, I'm biased.

One time, one of the employees a the Seaside Cafe accidentally made me the wrong sandwich, and when I pointed it out to me she acted like she expected to get beat for it (as she likely does by most students). I was friendly about it, she made the correct thing really quickly and I thanked her for her help. The amazing smile on people's face when you treat them the way they deserve to be treated is a really neat thing to see. That's one of the reasons I love health care, it gives us the opportunity to SERVE and HELP PEOPLE and to see their gratitude in their eyes and smiles. Maybe we should start practicing that now?!!??!?!?

NOW, I'm almost done -- but not quite.

While we don't see a lot of good examples of it these days, I think gratitude is one of the most important things we can learn in life. I have watched in AWE as the French work against the United States, who has done nothing but save the BUTTS of the French. I have watched in AWE as SOME of the IRAQI people say "I LOVE BUSH" for freeing their country one day, and then burn the US flag and threaten violence against the US for helping to restore order in the country the next. It just doesn't make sense. While I think RUMed did a good job rebuking those who would dare bite the hand of those that feed them, I think this is a VERY important thing to think about. Rao, take a look at the forum and imagine what it would look like if current students, like myself, didn't take the time to post. There would be HUNDREDS of unanswered questions about a LOT of important issues. You're right, I usually say good things about the country and the University. WHY? I really enjoy it here and a LOT of students feel that way. I really believe I am getting a top notch education here, and a LOT of students feel that way. I'm sorry if you don't want to believe me.

You are welcome to ask you questions elsewhere, and you are welcome to send you son elsewhere. That's up to you.

I am grateful for Ross University. I am grateful for the people of Dominica who allow me to come to their country to pursue my medical school. The Ross website says something like "at this med school, you'll also learn a lot about yourself". I'VE FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHAT THAT MEANT. RUMed, you are right on the edge of learning this too. We are truly spoiled people who have been blessed with SO much. We are privileged to come here to a tropical island and get a great medical education and we need to be GRATEFUL for that and so many other things.

Sometimes people really amaze me. What do you all think?

MitchDC



I am a parent and doing some research for my son.
I have been watching this forum for quite some time reqularly.
In the earlier MitchDC posts he reffered the people of the
island as freindly and helpful and the island as a paradise.
Now I got surprise why MitchDC is not responding to this
post. I really appreciate your post for giving inside information
about the behaviour of the people. More posts like this helps
us to choose the school.
I am frequently reading all MitchDC posts. He never post any thing
bad. He looks like salesperson not a moderator of the forum.


Thanks

[preppystud]

Well, if one wants to go to a med. school, s/he should do the research him/herself. I am not trying to put someone down, buddy. I am giving my opinion.

As a matter of fact, I do not like people who can't be straight forward. I don't like people who tell me nice things just to make me feel good for that moment. when later on, the truth will hurt.

I think that it is not be realistic if his/her son wants to go to an offshore med. school, yet does not even want to spend some time to do some research. well, it is not that Rao who will go spend about 2 years oversea, it is his/her son that will spend that many of "happy" hours on an unknown island.

I already grow up, that is why I didn't ask my parents to find an offshore med. school for me. His/her son obviously needs some grow up to do.

And I find that it is hard to believe that the living condition in Dominica is "so much worse" than in the states. As I wrote before, I am sure that the inner city ghettos in the states are much worse than the place that you are living in Dominica. I do not suppose that you live your life over there with the constant fear of being shot on the streets, do you ? for those of you who say that life in the states are much enjoyable, you all probably are quite rich in the states. I have never lived in any ghettos, but I am sure that those people will mostly likely to envy you living in such a wonderful apartment in Dominica.

Some of you may already have a condescending attitude before you even start talking to the dominican people.

Humans are basically the same. It does not matter where you grow up, where you live, I believe that if you treat the other nicely, they will treat you accordingly.

I think that I am like that ***** on American Idol, I tell the truth. and truth may be hard to accept. :)

Preppystud,
How come everytime you post on this website you are always putting others down. Could it be that maybe you are trying to make up for some emotional issues you had as a child? Were you not embraced enough or maybe your uncle touched you? You need to grow up and start to help others if they post a question. When do you plan on going to Ross? Maybe you should tell us when you get there so all those that you have put down on this forum can have a "private discussion" with you.

[Captain_Spaulding]

Come to New York City. The perspective you have of a freindly little country will change. I promise.

RUmed: You are right. I'll be the first to admit when I am in the Wrong so....

MitchDC- Thank you for the info. I am coming in in September (along with a few other FDNY/NYANG paramedics who were frowned upon in USA med schools due to the work we did at the World Trade Center ((hey zahmbie-or bones/doogie as we called you-Yes I remember you)) for reasons that I still cannot believe), but Ross is giving us the chance to become MD's. MitchDC, you reply to almost every message, and it is noted. I hope I can meet up with you and buy you a beer some time.

G

[zahmbie]

capt. Spaulding?!?

Yeah, You must remember me. Tower 2, South west sector. I still have pieces of it. I thought you were going to the Island after we got released. I guess I gotta go your house and straighten you out. You are right (as with RUMed)

Hey Mitch DC- THANK YOU!

Taking the time out like this is appreciated. I'll get the second round. The stigma of working the Trade center was a bitch enough interviewing at US med schools. (They think we are diseased or something) , but Ross gave me a chance. To be honest, I could care less if someone rolls their eyes when you order food (a normal thing in NYC), I am glad this school is giving us an opportunity to become MD's.

Capt_S- contact me at the e-mail address I gave you at the release ceremony.

[MDdreamer]

I think you need to be more mature enough to go to med school. I don't think you have any right to criticize a concern parent. You hardly know them and their culture. I am really worried about you as being a doctor. Tommorrow, you will start making stupid assumptions about your patients. Please Please THINK before you spit it out. Thanks. I think you should take a cultural course. PEACE

[preppystud]

what the heck are you talking about? I see that there are quite some oddballs out there!!!

At first, I was not sure who you were referring to, then I read the subject. English is obviously not your first language. go back and read my message again, and see if you can hear me now. I do not like to go around, and attack anyone nonsense.

I did not make any "stupid assumptions," I based my analysis on facts. Here is a parent who is doing med. school research for his/her son who is at least 22 years old. And s/he was asking around which school is better for the son.

For anyone who wants to go to a med. schoool, s/he should be mature enough to do some research on his/her own! If you wanna be a mama's boy or girl, then an offshore med. school is clearly not your destination.
It is a place where you have to live independently!

If you want to have your daddy or mama to tell you how to run your own life, it is not my business. Nevertheless, it is you who need to take a class on how to be an independent ADULT.


I think you need to be more mature enough to go to med school. I don't think you have any right to criticize a concern parent. You hardly know them and their culture. I am really worried about you as being a doctor. Tommorrow, you will start making stupid assumptions about your patients. Please Please THINK before you spit it out. Thanks. I think you should take a cultural course. PEACE

[Rao]

Dear All,
As I said in my earlier posts I am doing some research by watching these forums and talking with people, for my son and helping him to make a good decision in choosing right school. I do not see any wrong in helping my children. I strongly belive that I am obligated to fulfil my son's dreams of becoming a doctor. I am also 100% confident that my son would definately heed my advice. By listining to me do not make my son ineligible or inferior to face any challenges.I do not know why people think if a parent tries to help his son/daughter then they are going to loose their freedom and can not be Independent. This is a wrong perception. Every parent tries to see his/her children in a good position. No parent would look down his/her children. The persons who are criticizing me for this help undersstand only when they become parent. So please try to understand the parent's concern for his/her children.

[happydoc]

You guys are great!
I just wanted to say that I appreciate your honesty and advice.
I know it takes time to answer questions and to really express how you feel about things in general.

I am also greatful that Ross is giving me the opportunity to receive my medical education. I am really into making the best of what I have. I think anyone can survive anywhere with the proper attitude.

In the profession of medicine, it absolutel vital to the field that physicians have exceptional people skills. It is clear to me ( at least from your posts) that the two of you, MitchDC and RUmed, have what it takes to become "real" doctors i.e., doctors who care about people.

It's the people in the environment that can create an atmosphere conducive to learning. In an ideal world where everyone had the right attitude, everyone can be happy :) . Unfortunately, it is apparent that NOT everyone has a good attitude ( as noted by some of the postings!). That leaves everyone to question themselves.

As long as you are a good person, try to do the best you can, and are honest with yourself and others, then it really doesn't matter what the few unappreciative others think.

[MitchDC]

Rao, I agree. Its not a bad thing that a parent wants the best for their children. The fact that you are investigating the medical schools is a sign of support and love. Many parents take part in advising, researching, making the decision, and even moving their sons and daughters here. That doesn't mean that their kids are not independent, it just means that they have a good healthy relationship with his or her parents. Sounds like you are doing a good job.

MitchDC

Dear All,
As I said in my earlier posts I am doing some research by watching these forums and talking with people, for my son and helping him to make a good decision in choosing right school. I do not see any wrong in helping my children. I strongly belive that I am obligated to fulfil my son's dreams of becoming a doctor. I am also 100% confident that my son would definately heed my advice. By listining to me do not make my son ineligible or inferior to face any challenges.I do not know why people think if a parent tries to help his son/daughter then they are going to loose their freedom and can not be Independent. This is a wrong perception. Every parent tries to see his/her children in a good position. No parent would look down his/her children. The persons who are criticizing me for this help undersstand only when they become parent. So please try to understand the parent's concern for his/her children.

[Beaker]

preppystud is entitled to his own opionion but i think that the rest of us agree that rao is doing the right thing. i wish that my parents did the same for me. any room for adoption? :lol:

[Infiri]

In my opinion the locals are nice people.
Really nice actually. The drivers, like Peter, is a great guy.
He just came and pick us up at our apartment just because there was a big sale on celphones. He remember our apartment and he remember that we ask about celphones.
Carlos
PS. he actually didn't charge us for the ride.

[bevo]

but we payed anyways. and payed a bit extra.
-bevo

[doc4kids2b]

I have been to ross and now am back in the states. Having been there as a student let me tell anyone out there honestly that mitchdc is not hiding anything. he is telling you what things are like. Adjusting to the island is hard work. It is a third world island and not like we are used to in the states. But if you want to be a doc bad enough you suck it up and make the best of the situation. Now as in any where you may be in the world there are some locals who may look to take advantage of the students bec honestly we are spending more on our education to become doctors than most of these people will see in their liftimes, but on a whole the dominican people are nice and friendly. just smile be polite, treat them like you would want to be treated and remember you are on a carribean island they take life a little slower than we are used to. But as i said treat the locals with the same respect you would treat your fellow students say please and thank you and you should on the most part not have any problems. I am willing to awnser any questions i can about the island just pm me and i will respond
Doc4kids2b

[jim]

when you are at ross, they are just getting you ready for the south side of chicago and for the bornx. because when you get there, you will see real bad service from the locals!!! as for dominicasn, they are very friendly and open peopel. that doesnt preclude them from being lazy. as for mitchdc's comment, yes, americans are spoiled. when you leave the rock, you should nt be thinking" what a lousy place"...you should be thinking about how lucky you are to be an american, and you should appreciate that always!

[tRmedic21]

I want to add my support for those on this forum who will stand up and tell the truth the way it needs to be told!

I live in Sint Maarten, and I attend AUC, but I can attest to the fact that we have many of the problems here, too. Customer service is not what we are used to at home. So what? You are living on a small island in the middle of the ocean, with a people of a different race (usually), a different culture, different priorities, and different futures! What the heck did you expect?

I must admit that at times I get frustrated, too, with the seemingly poor customer service we get. We continually say things like, "They think we're rich or something!" Get it through your head, buddy, you are. Many of these people support a family for an entire year on less money than you spent on your plane ticket to get down here! :shock:

I had the priveledge of living on an island for a time before I came to Sint Maarten, one not nearly so developed and tourist-oriented. And I can tell you the story is the same there, too. Part of it is the way they were raised, part of it is some amount of resentment, and a large part of it is our plain old American spoiled-rotten mentality! I have friends here who absolutely make me sick sometimes when I hear they way they talk:

"That would never work in the U.S. They'd be fired in a heartbeat!"
"That's so much more expensive than in the States!"
"I wouldn't feed that to my dog!" (island kids probably ate it for dinner)
"I just can't believe the way these people act!"

Let me ask you, how the heck would you act if you heard those things over and over, all day long? I am surprised more of them don't snap and start using their cutlasses to lop off heads instead of cut the grass. Yeah, these people use a machete to mow the lawn! Did you know that? As someone pointed out, they handwash their clothes! Do you know what a pain in the rear that is with things like jeans and heavy clothing for an entire family? They eat the same food day after day, with little or no variety, except what they can grow in their gardens. And guess what? They aren't sweating it out for a couple of years before they can get back to civilization! This is all they have to look forward to for the rest of their lives. So what the heck are you bitching about? Because they didn't smile and kiss your rear when they handed you your lunch?

If you want to be pampered and waited on like you are when you are in America, then I got a suggestion for you... STAY in America! I wouldn't trade the "extra-American" experiences I have had for anything. It has made me a much better person, and I thank God for that. I DO appreciate my life so much more. Do you know how many times I have actually been ashamed to be an American, after standing there watching the way so many of us (myself included) behave? What makes Americans think we are better people than anyone else? You many not believe it, but I have seen it, time and time again, and not just the ones who fly in on their private jets to sip champagne in the spa, but the ones who come in on budget airlines with three small children in tow.

If you want the people around you to go out of their way to help you out, you need to do it for them, too. Smile really big at them first, call them "sir" or "ma'am", tip them well, but more importantly, TREAT them well, extremely well, and you will be amazed at what lengths many of them will go to for you. They are people with feelings and families and dreams and aspirations, too. Just because they don't bow and scrape for an Almighty Dollar doesn't mean that kindness won't thaw the ice a little. It's tough to swallow our American pride sometimes, I know. I catch myself doing the same things, but I have to constantly work to try to make their day a better day. If you aren't a typical spoiled American, go out of your way to let them know that you aren't a spoiled American. I am not talking about patronizing them. I am talking about learning about them. Attending a foreign medical school doesn't mean you are only there to learn about medicine.... there are hundreds, even thousands of cultures around this world just as different from theirs as theirs is from ours. Use your opportunity to learn how to get along with people of all kinds. Learn what makes them tick, what they want. Sometimes it's the little things...

Once every week or so, my wife and I bring a coke to the guard who watches our complex parking lot at night. Not a big deal, costs us next to nothing. But he treats us like we are royalty when we drive in at night. Regardless of if we get anything extra out of it in the way of special treatment or not, it makes me feel good to know that I made his hot, long, boring night a little bit better.

[preppystud]

yea, i totally agree. I think that bush should be sent to live in another non-european oriented country, so he will learn how to manage domestic problems. instead of calling others axis of evil, maybe he will learn how to solve crisis by talk not by volience.

[futuremdsomewhere]

preppystud, there is a time for talk and a time for action. How much time should someone be given to come into compliance. From what I took from your post you are talking about Iraq. Should we wait and see how bad a situation will get before we act. Maybe I should put this in a medical situation so you can better understand it. If a patient was diagnosed with a cancer would you not attempt to remove it if possible so as to the betterment of the patient or would you allow the cancer to grow and spread until it was not possible to remove it without consequences to the patient. Look what happened with Hitler, if the world would have had the courage to join together at the start and take care of him we could have avoided a major war. Who knows how many lives President Bush saved by taking out this segment of the axis of evil.

[BIGOSUFAN]

We tried talking to the Iraqis for the last 12 years. They wouldn't listen and Bush did what was right. Unlike that coward Clinton, Bush had the balls to step up and do what was right. Ask the average Iraqi if their happy that we invaded.

[preppystud]

there are so many tiny countries across the world, won't it be funny if the president of dominica declares that usa is the axis of evil. what is he gonna do? is he going to send all his citizens living on this tinyisland, and invade the usa?

people living the usa always have this condesending attitude, like everything they do, everything they say are much better than the rest of the world.

of course, this is not a forum to talk about the war in iraq. but i want to say that it was the same usa government that supported Saddam not so long ago, and it was also the same usa government that supported the same Taliban government to fight the soviets.

I do not see a reason to force the iraqi people to change their government. And as of today, there is still no "weapons of mass destruction" found in Iraq.

However, the statue of libery from France still stands there peacefully, and how many americans plan to take that down?

[tRmedic21]

Take it easy, guys! We're getting into some very personal opinions and deep water here, we have to be careful to try to maintain our professional attitude. Keep in mind that all of our actions reflect on our schools and our chosen profession, no matter good or bad. :?

I love diversity, though, don't you? :twisted:

[MitchDC]

Although an interesting debate, it doesn't belong here. LET'S GET BACK ON ISSUE.

Thank you!

MitchDC

[BrotherMan]

Amen brother

[rowancv]

i don't like the service at subway....