Starting May 2008

[MDIN2009]

So who is starting May 2008?

[dominic17]

I got accepted for May 2008.

[dezertmedic]

I just had my interview and got in for May also.
See you there!
Good Luck!

[dezertmedic]

Are there only 3 of us starting in May???

[windsorMD]

when i started in 2006, there was about 15 of us in MD1

now class sizes are 80-100 !

[ansara3]

for you guys who got in for may? what avg. gpa did you guys have? did you write the MCAT? and did your letters or recommendation come from professors or work as well?
I am thinking of applying for Jan 2009; but i want to find out if i can actually meet the criteria.
My avg will probably end up being C+, however I have a bunch of work experienced and extra curricular activities.

Thanks!

[dezertmedic]

Hi, I was a C student in chemistry and physics but all A's in biology. I did not take the mcat. All of my letters were from docs that I have known for years. I too had a lot of work experience. I have been a medic for 17 years. I think that helped alot.
I applied to a couple other schools and they all seem to work in a similar fashion. As long as you have the minimum requirments you will probably get in, but then it is up to you to do the work and stay in.

For anyone else looking for help with financing, I approached a hospital that I have worked for and asked if they would pay my tuition installments. In return when I graduate I will open a practice in that city and admit pts to the hospital for 3 years and the debt will be forgiven. We sign the contract tomorrow.

I hope this helps,
Cheers

[windsorMD]

which state are you a medic in?

[dezertmedic]

Georgia and Florida, but just currently working in south Ga.

[dominic17]

for you guys who got in for may? what avg. gpa did you guys have? did you write the MCAT? and did your letters or recommendation come from professors or work as well?
I am thinking of applying for Jan 2009; but i want to find out if i can actually meet the criteria.
My avg will probably end up being C+, however I have a bunch of work experienced and extra curricular activities.

Thanks!

My GPA was 3.02 and i didn't take my MCATs, also all my letter of recommendations came from my professors. You are competitive enough to get accepted to Windsor, just apply early.

[bigdaddy69]

I'm in Alabama and i need a hook up with a hospital that will pay my tuition

[dezertmedic]

I think that approaching a rural hospital that I already had a relationship with helped me alot. Most of the Docs on the board have known me for 17 years. They feel sure I will come back. If you have nothing else to loose, why not try it?

[sunset]

For those of you starting in May 2008:

If you have not been there yet, do not have high expectations of the island. The beaches are beautiful but the island is somewhat poor. I was there last week visiting friend who started preMD in Jan. Most people who live there do not have the same customer service attitude as they do in Canada/USA. I found them sometimes rude and if you want something done promptly, it won't happen. The live on 'Caribbean time' mentality so they have a relaxed attitude and getting something such as internet will take a couple of weeks. My friends live on residence, they take a 10-15 min bus ride to school everyday. Be sure to take up all kitchen necessities; pots, utensils, plates etc, also hangers. Food is expensive. The place my friends live is fairly nice, large size bedroom, double beds. You do NOT need to purchase special outlet adapters. Do not expect an exciting night life. The island has one main hotel, the Marriott, and a strip of small bars along one of the beaches.

I liked the island very much but for those of you with high expectations will be disappointed.

[10poundnotes]

Hello Value MD,
I'm a long time lurker and first time poster. I just wanted to say thank you to all the people on the Windsor forum and others who have helped with information and advice to make decisions easier for us newbies. It has been invaluable. I will see you in May 2008.

[dezertmedic]

I heard the start date was moved to May 13.
When do you all plan to arrive?

WindsorMD, From looking at the daily schedule it looks like there won't be much time for extra curricular activities such as night life anyway.
8 to 4 med classes Monday thru Friday...4:30 to 6:00 USMLE mandatory review classes Monday thru Thursday...and an exam in every class every Monday leaves the weekend for study...

[windsorMD]

i never said anything about a night life

[dezertmedic]

I know, one of the others did. My understanding is that you are the only current student on the forum regularly so I posted the question to you.

[MDIN2009]

There are others including my self that are current students that post regularly..feel free to ask away



I know, one of the others did. My understanding is that you are the only current student on the forum regularly so I posted the question to you.

[windsorMD]

I know, one of the others did. My understanding is that you are the only current student on the forum regularly so I posted the question to you.

vote windsorMD for #2 windsor moderator ;)

[32degree]

Hi there,
Can anyone tell me where and what hospitals do US students do their rotations at?
Also, is it recommended for students from US to stay on campus? How does the whole process work?
THanks so much for your help.

[windsorMD]

Hi there,
Can anyone tell me where and what hospitals do US students do their rotations at?
Also, is it recommended for students from US to stay on campus? How does the whole process work?
THanks so much for your help.

for a hospital list refer to the clinical rotations guide in the windsor clinicals subforum.
it is required for all students to stay in student housing in the Pre-Med1/MD1 semester.

[32degree]

Hi all,
I'm planning to apply here for September semester, but I'm struggling with the student loan. Through what student loan source do US students go through since there is no code for this school yet? I do not have the money out of my pocket to pay upfront for a whole semester which I'm sure many students would agree as well. The school also said that they offer private loans through the school, is this true and if it is, how can I get this private loan from the school? I would like to know more before I apply. Thank you so much.

[32degree]

student loans?

[dezertmedic]

My understanding of the school's private loan program is just that they will allow you to make monthly payments for the basic sciences, after you pay for the first semester in advance. I don't think they actually give you a loan in the sense thay you will recieve cash from them, and then have that money to pay your cost of education.
I also spoke with the US office about a week ago and the lady said they were alomst finished with the paperwork to get real loans from lenders who loan money in the traditional sense.
Hopefully it will be available in May...but reading from others who post here, it seems it was suppose to be available this past Jan.

Some of the students who do get loans may be Canadian. My understanding is Canadians have more resources available to them.

[websniff]

any loans for international students? and this private loaan? whats the actual arrangement as per monthly pay? is it monthly pay for the 2nd semester after admission of what?
Because seems there is no real loan program here and hope for a real one that works like other schools.

[dezertmedic]

If you call the US office, they will email you an excell spread sheet of the loan arrangment, which is really just an installment plan. Basically 5000 in advance for the first semester and 1000/month for the remainder of the basic sciences.

[boysmeetstheworld]

hi
I was just wondering about the food issue. At windsor site it says that the university provides free lunch to students. Can older student comment on wheather this is true or do we have to pay for the food.

What are the facilities relating to cafeteria and food?
Food is very expensive in carribean countries. Student also has to prepare the food which is time consuming and is a hindrance in studies. At Windsor students gets free lunch while on campus during regular business days and helps the student by preventing him to go to dorms by walk, prepare the food and eat. At windsor cafeteria student does not pay for food during lunch and is included in the tuition fees.

[windsorMD]

there is a free lunch and also food for purchase

[32degree]

hi all,
can any US students tell me where I can get student loans from? Seems like most loan company have their "approved school".
What paperwork do I need to do prior to going to St. Kitts. Is there a "to do" list for new students as far as paperwork/forms is concerned?
Thank you so much for your help-

[boysmeetstheworld]

where do you print the housing form from?
I went to the site and the site wasn't opening

[websniff]

so the free food is just for lunch??? then why the lies or secrecy on their website? they should be straightforward because it portrays a bad image to the school. for example a friend of mine wanted to apply but he said on visiting the school's website, informations weren't clear enough, so he is scared to apply, he is trying otehr carrib schools now.
please can someone clear the air on other issues, just hoping they aren't lies like 16 week usmle training in the states? how can that be possible with different immigration student status.
......free dormintories, free textbooks, free microscopes, free lab and others.
please someone caring should help me out with the truths or half truths because i am coming this may and want to know whats yea and whats not.

[MDXRS22]

Go here Windsor University School of Medicine - About the Country (http://windsor.edu/studentsdownloads.htm)

[windsorMD]

so the free food is just for lunch??? then why the lies or secrecy on their website? they should be straightforward because it portrays a bad image to the school. for example a friend of mine wanted to apply but he said on visiting the school's website, informations weren't clear enough, so he is scared to apply, he is trying otehr carrib schools now.
please can someone clear the air on other issues, just hoping they aren't lies like 16 week usmle training in the states? how can that be possible with different immigration student status.
......free dormintories, free textbooks, free microscopes, free lab and others.
please someone caring should help me out with the truths or half truths because i am coming this may and want to know whats yea and whats not.

the 16 week usmle training refers to the 5th semester that's done in Carbondale, IL. You should realize that no school in the caribbean is going to get you immigration for the US, this is solely the student's responsibility. There are several Nigerian students like yourself that are currently in St. Kitts in both Basic Sciences and Clinicals. You will be offered USMLE training during MD1-4 semesters. You will be ECFMG certified and eligible to take the USMLE Step 1 Exam. Like most Nigerian students, you should complete all of your clinical rotations in St. Kitts or the UK, get good LORs, complete the Step 2, do an observership with USCE, and apply for residency. There are no lies on the WSOM website. WSOM does not charge for textbooks, offers a free lunch to students, and does not have a separate Dormitory charge. However there is a Dorm Maintenance fee to keep the housing in good condition for future students. Please do not bash WSOM. If you are experiencing such difficulties, the WSOM members on ValueMD can only help you so much. If you are confused contact the school and ask all of your questions directly. I hope this "clears the air" for you.

[windsorMD]

here is a Windsor Resident from Nigeria currently in the Family Medicine Program at Memorial University Medical Center

OA - Medical Education - Residents (http://www.memorialhealth.com/meded/fm_residents.aspx)

[MDXRS22]

I had to re-space that long thing. :)

[MDXRS22]

What happened to the spacing????

[MDXRS22]

What happened to the spacing????




You know what bothers me, I believe those students think that we are working for the school. They asked a question, as a student, you answered, and then they quickly believed that what you told them is a made up story to make them apply to the school.


I told them the same things, food is free, books are free, dorm is included in the tuition, only a maintenance fee applies. But they just want to make life harder as it always is. I am preparing for the board, every time I come here and try my best to help out, answer your emails and PMs, I am either missing an hour that I could have been using doing questions or reading that ton of materials.



The fact that also when I was applying for schools, students from different schools helped me out, I am also thankful and must give something in return. I am not there to misguide you or tell you that there is gold and diamonds when there is only mud and sand.


It will not be in my best interests to make you lose thousands of dollars that you may not even have. It will not bring a dime in my pocket to let you waste a loan that you will have to repay by any mean necessary. If you believe what we told you is unclear, doubtful and misleading, please just chose what is best for you and let it be, for all sakes.


The issues of non visa holder, no green card holder, and else have been already discussed. You must make sure that you do some simple researches in the forum as well. We can't just take time off our schedules helping you out all the time.


There are what we can tell you, and there are stuff you will have to figure out yourself. It only takes a few words in the search engine for the best or the worst to come scrolling on your monitor. Please, again, understand that we are also students, and helping you is just helping us by being among those who have this blessed opportunity to be in medical schools.


You are all that matters to us, and we don't have any affiliation, promoters or employees of the school. We are paying out of our pockets, loan grabbers, or just broke and can't pay at all. Windsor will not give us a rebate for telling you to apply to the school, and they will not do us favors, such as giving us better grades to keep us around. If this is the school you are bargaining for, like many fools in here have written in bold letters in their bashing glories, you get it wrong. To get out of Windsor, you will have to bleed to the last drop, i mean it a good way.


You will have to study and spit it like your drying internal organs. If you heard the passing score here is 60 percent of the grades, that includes minis, weekly exams and 4 major exams. But, believe me, you will not get out of this place by one mark. I went through it, and I had to retake the exams as well.


All the time I was here helping you out, I had retakes and that was a pain. If you are serious about school, about your future and about having to do well in this field, start by making the sacrifices as of now. The school offers clinical seminars and offers USMLE training from the first day you step in your class.


It's mandatory as well. If you don't believe us, ask those who had to stay behind because they did not attend class or did not sign for the classes. Don't listen to those who may want to make you believe that you are about to bargain for what you pay for. Windsor is cheap, yes. Windsor has free food, yes; free books, yes; free passing grades, NO. Some will even tell you that others schools have better profs, sure, of course. But they will never tell you how many of those profs can't even pass the shelf exams in the subjects that they are teaching you. Ask around!


Windsor has quality instructors, and they are not bragging about them on the web site. They have Indians and Black professors. Those are men and women who passed the board with top scores, and those who were involves in researches before they start teaching. The youngest professors are actually set for the match this year, and they are the best that we had here in Carbondale.


They know what they were teaching and no bull stuff. Just straight to the point and no questions beaters (memorizers), like many fools would have thought they would have been. I tried to avoid the endless arguments with some folks in here, and trying to tell them that because the school is not bragging about what it has and owns will not make any difference.


To everyone his/her ultimate school. I was just like that when I was at my former school. But what they will not tell you is that they also have holes that even the moon cannot fill. They will not tell you that they have exposed and borrowed the names of professors who are not teaching at their schools to just make them the lust and lure of this growing market. It's a business! The more you brag, pop names, the many collective souls you will gather. Listen well! You have the choices, and it's your future.


We can tell you this school is a paradise, and further down the road, you find out that's it is hell hole. Like I said, we are not lying to you to make us feel good and promote dimes and big bucks in the pockets of those folks. many of us come to this school as rejects, second chance mediocre, transferred students looking for cheaper schools, or just folks who want to change their lives by going back to school.


Many of us here are fathers, mothers, or plainly independent students. Though the school has a fountain of young students, by being among mature folks, they also adopted a sense of let's get it done and have fun at the end. We party like animals, too, but we make sure we have the job done. If we fail, we go back to the drawing board and head for the best.


This school, gives you the opportunities that other schools will not give you. Some school will kick you out after you failed a class a second time. Windsor gives its students the benefit of the doubts. The administrators believe that students may have some difficulties adapting to their new environment, classes, other students, and may also have personal problems.


What the dean and the school president do, after a look at your grades, is that they talk to you, tell you what you need to do and offer you to retake the exams after you have failed. And if you failed again, they will still allow you to retake the class a 3rd time, I mean after the extra exams, and then, they will let you go....(If you are smart, tell them you want another crack at the exam and ask for tutoring)

Now
you may want to argue with me and tell me that's plain stupidity. No. many of those who were given so many chances ended up passing the board exams, and are doing well. This is to prove to you that people really have different ways of learning, and for some, it may take months to just decipher the simplest thing. But when they know it, it's magical.... Ok, sorry for this long bullet.... If you want our help, we are there to tell you what we know. We can't hide what we don't have a clue about. To do so is a sin, a crime and inhumane.


I have kids (many more in the wild), and if I know that someone would just mislead them, I would go to the extreme to get at you. We are not promoters and marketers, we are just students.


I hope you get it!

[MDIN2009]

The web site states free food...meaning Lunch. Now that is more than any other university. And you want dinner too???.....man get a reality check!


so the free food is just for lunch??? then why the lies or secrecy on their website? they should be straightforward because it portrays a bad image to the school. for example a friend of mine wanted to apply but he said on visiting the school's website, informations weren't clear enough, so he is scared to apply, he is trying otehr carrib schools now.
please can someone clear the air on other issues, just hoping they aren't lies like 16 week usmle training in the states? how can that be possible with different immigration student status.
......free dormintories, free textbooks, free microscopes, free lab and others.
please someone caring should help me out with the truths or half truths because i am coming this may and want to know whats yea and whats not.

[windsorMD]

great post MDXRS22

[MDXRS22]

Thanks, WinMD:) We do all we can to help them out here.

[32degree]

Hi all,
Can you tell me why I can't contact the school directly? I'm tired of trying to contact the US representative since she has no real answer for me, not to mention the fact that she's very rude. The 2 numbers listed on the school's website does not exist. I called it but operator said the number is not real/exist.
As for the representive in the US, she knows nothing! She is not trained to answer questions for the school and she is very unprofessional. I think if this school is interested in recruiting more students from the US, it needs real staff that can answer questions since this school is not known by US people yet. I have decided not to apply this September since I'm unsure in many areas b/c the representative is not able to give me answers.
Thank you for all the help from students in this forum. You guys are doing a great job since the representative is not able to do her job.

[MDIN2009]

If you would like the numbers to the island office pm me.

Hi all,
Can you tell me why I can't contact the school directly? I'm tired of trying to contact the US representative since she has no real answer for me, not to mention the fact that she's very rude. The 2 numbers listed on the school's website does not exist. I called it but operator said the number is not real/exist.
As for the representive in the US, she knows nothing! She is not trained to answer questions for the school and she is very unprofessional. I think if this school is interested in recruiting more students from the US, it needs real staff that can answer questions since this school is not known by US people yet. I have decided not to apply this September since I'm unsure in many areas b/c the representative is not able to give me answers.
Thank you for all the help from students in this forum. You guys are doing a great job since the representative is not able to do her job.

[boysmeetstheworld]

thanks for the site appreciated. MDXRS22

[MDXRS22]

Awesome :) If you need anything else, let me know

[doe123]

The lady in the US office has been very helpful to me. I am joining in May 08 she seems to do everything there. Maybe you did not ask the correct questions as !!!

[boysmeetstheworld]

open to all former students
I would like to ask the former some questions regarding windsor so that I can better prepare myself to meet the challenges. I would appreciate their help in this matter.
1.) How is the day like? What time do the first semester start and finish?
2.) What is the best way to study? for me I usually read through the text books and understand the concept? I don't get lot out of lectures unless the lecturers are really good? but I see that after a long day of classes we won't be having time to read those text books?
3.) How many hours should I study per day other than the classes?
4.) I see that they have 5 courses per week for first semester as a former students how did you guys manage the course loads and time?
5.) What opportunities do we have available for etc help?
6.) What are good places to study in terms of library, or in class etc?
7.) any other comments or help would be appreciated.

[fkhan7]

Hey, I am starting May semester as well.

What's the exact date school is starting in May- and when is it finishing up?

[DrSembhi]

heyy yea what exactly is the best time to go to the island to get your housing and everything set if youve been accepted for may? and would we be staying on the new campus??

[websniff]

Great post mdxrs and i must say i kinda apologise but i wasnt trying to bash at the school, i just didnt understand them then, and it wasnt my fault, it was just the way the school put informations, but now i get to know the school i am about to enter, its numerous advantages and all.....after doing lotta research

windsormd i also apologise to you, because u felt my remarks were quite harsh, may God repay you guys for your work on valuemd, i plan to work too like you guys when i am aceepted into windsor this may.
safe.

[websniff]

here is a Windsor Resident from Nigeria currently in the Family Medicine Program at Memorial University Medical Center

OA - Medical Education - Residents (http://www.memorialhealth.com/meded/fm_residents.aspx)

hey windsor md, are you sure that nigerian guy studied at windsor? because from the link you provided, i observed that the school that shows there is a nigerian school (univeristy of lagos) and not WSOM, so please explain so i understand what you meant.
thanks for all yor help, ur wonderful.

[MDXRS22]

Take your time, read the whole page and look at the names and schools.

The Wusom grad is there....not the guy you mentioned.:)

[MDXRS22]

By the way, can we do all rotations there and...residency...??

[Future Dr.Dewar]

Ya there is a nigerian guy from Windsor but the catch is i guess he must be a greencard holder/citizen...Since that program does not provide visas....

[bigdaddy69]

what about loans!

[websniff]

Take your time, read the whole page and look at the names and schools.

The Wusom grad is there....not the guy you mentioned.:)
the nigerian kid is sure a greencard holder or that wont have been possible and that's the nigerian kid windsormd toldme to check out but the school there is a nigerian school, so didnt get it.

[MDXRS22]

I understand!


The other guy must be a green/citizen resident

[D.B. M.D.]

Congrats to all...you'll love the island and the school. but bring will power, sanity and patience to the island with you.

[SnJ]

Hey does anyone have any good links to dl books from if your starting in may? thanks:)

[Mike]

Man that was a great answer and really hit home.
You taking your time is appreciated believe me.

[websniff]

will power, sanity and patience ......hmmm i like that. really encouragin, but any little fun or relaxation???please tella nd what is it like.
remember i said "LITTLE"...because all work and no play makes jack a dull boy.

[bigdaddy69]

what about loans!

[SnJ]

i called the office in PA and she said there are no loans available but they are trying for september..and i also tried tuition answer and a number of other banks but nobody is going to give a student loan..

[websniff]

but why is this so? they just dont care or what? or is it because they would be dealing with carribean schools and they dont trust their standards or sumthing? please why really is it hard to get loans to study in this schools?

[websniff]

And hey also, i just received my admission letter by E-mail, and i was told to send passport + visaform+ hosuingform+ tuition fee,
just wondering if thats really all, because i thought they would need my medicals and all(they didnt ask for that now).
am saying this because would not want to send any more docs later on, since may's aound the corner, would waste more time.
she also said that she had sent a package by postal mail....please whats usually in the mail, just asking because i wanna have firsthand information and be able to do things on time thanks.
Lastly, when is the deadline for coming to st.kitts for may resumption? an thing like that?

[LamNguyenDC]

I got accepted for May 2008, for Health Care Professional Program. excited and scared. :eek:

[usmankhanccny]

I got accepted into semester 1. Can anyone tell me what are the subjects for semester 1 and if possible what are the major topics covered in those subjects?

[LamNguyenDC]

I got accepted for May 2008, in HCP...still lose, do we just show up at the school and then they take us to our dorm.....I am lose, and when does class begin, all i know is May. Still Lose

[bigdaddy69]

The us office told me that school starts May 12th. E-mail them your travel plans and someone will get you from the airport and take you to your place.

[LamNguyenDC]

The us office told me that school starts May 12th. E-mail them your travel plans and someone will get you from the airport and take you to your place.

thank you:D

[MDIN2009]

Anatomy 1 , Physio 1, Emryo..Anatomy lab. Plus you will have a seminar that you will have to present on a Physio topic. So bring one set of nice clothes...

I got accepted into semester 1. Can anyone tell me what are the subjects for semester 1 and if possible what are the major topics covered in those subjects?

[SnJ]

this may seem like a silly question but what exactly are the rooms/houses like in the new campus?

[Gmoney86]

yay! im in for md1 :D

[websniff]

pls i was accpeted for windsor, and paid my fees but is it compulsory for me to pay the extra 2000dolls, security fee, anyone knows if i could be waived for this? As i just heard of this payment, didnt prepare for it and it might hinder them sending me my passport on time, please what can i do?Thanks,(Nigeria)

[MDIN2009]

I think they just started making students from Nigeria pay a deposit. This is because some students from Nigeria ran up debts to the school and the island. You may want to ask the school to wave the deposit for you.


pls i was accpeted for windsor, and paid my fees but is it compulsory for me to pay the extra 2000dolls, security fee, anyone knows if i could be waived for this? As i just heard of this payment, didnt prepare for it and it might hinder them sending me my passport on time, please what can i do?Thanks,(Nigeria)

[websniff]

Thanks, i would contact the US admin office on these, but on what basis can i be waived? on personal grounds or appeal or something else?? just wondering how to put it to them about the deposit thing.

[fkhan7]

i wanted to know if its better to purchase wireless router in states, or purchase it on the Island from local ISP companies?


Also I had faxed my housing application and my $100 check to the # and address on the application, although when i called Lona to get the status of my application, she informed me to re-fax it to another fax # --which i believe is the fax # at St. Kitts location.
I was just concerned that my $100 application processing check was cashed within few days which was sent to the address provided on the application but they hadn't received my fax which was faxed on the # listed on the application it self. So i just wanted to know if anyone has faced anything similar--becuase i would want to receive some time of confirmation/receipt to bring to the Island as proof of payment.

[websniff]

please when is the right time to continue processing my september admission into windsor even though school start may12th? asking these because i was aceepted for may but deferred it to sept, because applied late, so i wanna know if the school would have time processing admission data for new students when classes are going on now or maybe by august when classes are done.....for example about to send my passport but dont know if to send now, or august.

[pinda_virk]

i know theres a long time until may 2009 semester, but i'm just curious when's a good time to apply for MD for that semester.

[windsorMD]

how was the first day

[windsorMD]

prospective & current windsor students should continue to post their experiences/issues on this forum

[windsorMD]

this thread should no longer be a sticky