premod online programs.

[lswiltshire]

Much has been written on this forum about online Med Schools as we spoke out against schools like UHSA and IUHS and St Luke's, but are there any good online PREMED PROGRAMS that any one knows about?


Are online PREMED PROGRAMS accepted?


Can the senior members of the forum comment on this?

Would this be a good or bad thing for prospective students who have courses or other issues missing on thier applications for medical school.

I have had a few PM's about this recently, but could give no real answers.

[lswiltshire]

It is my opinion that PREMED PROGRAMS can be done online. Rather than going offshore to do premed, I think that it is reasonable for prospective medical students to save a great deal of money while working for funds to support them in med school abroad. I feel that prospective medical students can remain in the US while doing their premed online.

I cannot find any institutions involved in such a venture nor can I ascertain if this is a valid ploy. Does anyone know about this at all?

[leadsled]

Obviously, check with a medical school admissions counselor before attempting this!

Most foreign medical schools require 90 credits plus pre-medical sciences with a bachelors degree preferred. I went ahead and proposed a pre-medical science pathway done through distant learning (DL) and challenge exams.

Typical pre-med courses include:
1. General Chemistry 8 credits
2. Organic Chemistry 8 credits
3. Biology Sciences 8 credits
4. Physics 8 credits
5. Math 3+ credits Calculus or Statistics level
6. English 6 hours.

Proposed Distant Learning Pre-med Pathway:

General Chemistry
Chem 1350W 5 credits
Chem 1450W 5 credits
At Oklahoma University
OU CIDL College Course (http://isd.ou.edu/collegecourse.cfm?prfx=CHEM&area=Chemistry)

Organic Chemistry 2310 and 2320
8 credits at the Univ. of Utah
Independent Study at the University of Utah (http://continue.utah.edu/distance/indstudy.php)
or in print at Oklahoma Univ OU CIDL College Course (http://isd.ou.edu/collegecourse.cfm?prfx=CHEM&area=Chemistry)

Physics 2010 and 2020
8 credits at University of Utah Independent Study at the University of Utah (http://continue.utah.edu/distance/indstudy.php)

There are numerous courses in Math, English and Biology offered via DL, Too many to list! For example,
General Biology 1001 and 1002 6 credits
BIOL 2160 Human Physiology
English 1001 and 1002 6 credits available at Louisiana State. You have to look around for one that has a LAB component.
LSU Independent and Distance Learning (http://www.is.lsu.edu/)

Calculus or Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
UNL | Independent Study | Open Enrollment (http://independentstudy.unl.edu/courses/index.shtml)

English Composition Exam 6 credits
www.excelsior.edu (http://www.excelsior.edu)


1. Another way to earn some college credit and boost it up to 90 credits is to try Clep for Math, Biology and English.
About the College Level Examination Program (CLEP) (http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/clep/about.html)
Of course some medical programs are going to require a "Lab component" for biology.

2. Some colleges will allow you to test out of a bachelors degree by taking GRE subject exams, Dantes exams The DSST Program (http://www.getcollegecredit.com)
Clep exams College Search - SAT Registration - College Admissions - Scholarships (http://www.clep.org)
TESC exams, Excelsior College Exams, Ohio University exams and so forth. Just download the study guide, usually for free and buy a cheap used textbook in the topic area through amazon.com.

These U.S. accredited schools offer a B.Sc. degree and accept challenge credit and consolidate your earned credit from a variety of sources:
www.excelsior.edu (http://www.excelsior.edu)
Thomas Edison State College (http://www.tesc.edu)
Charter Oak State College - distance learning college, online degrees, courses (http://www.cosc.edu)


Any ideas or suggestions?:roll:

[stephew]

try getting a real education and dot look for short cuts to being a doctor., aside from putting your career at risk its not the right ethic.

[leadsled]

try getting a real education and dot look for short cuts to being a doctor., aside from putting your career at risk its not the right ethic.


We are debating the merits and exploring the potential of a distant learning "pre-medical" not medical education and I emphasize "pre". I can't see how reputable accredited US institutions of higher academia are not considered a "real education" albiet offered in a non traditional classroom. As far as ethics are concerned, please expound.

[jameslynton]

Per the definition - Biology , Chemistry and Physics pre-med courses have to be labs with them or they don't count. So I don't see online courses as being a help in meeting that requirement for US medical schools. MIT now has all of it's courses as MP5's/and test published - if you want to download them and do them. However, you don't get credit for them. Also most on-line courses are more expensive than local colleges/universities. So your degree is more expensive.

[POPO]

Athabaska University/canada : you can do your premed courses online, and then you go on place to do your lab during 1 week or 2 (I think)..or something like that.

It's probably cheapest than in the US.

About the premed in a offshore med school, personaly I don't see any good reason to do that.

[jameslynton]

Yes - but you are at a University with labs. The on-line is just a sub for lectures.