Hanson
02-15-2003, 04:50 PM
Question for California (Pat Park)
by anon (no login)
Can you tell us which one of the following schools have applied or requested apps for CA (i.e. considering to apply for CA approval).
IUHS
St. Mary's
St. Mathews
Pacific Basin(PBU-SOM)
Windsor
St. john's
UNIBE
UTESA
CAHSU-Belize
Spartan
Antigua Health Science University
GW SOM (Lord Liverpool Univ in Nue Island)
Keigezi
Also are there any Universities that are blacklisted in Ca, i.e. will not be approved even if they apply.
Thanks.
No schools applied
by Pat Park, Calif Med Bd (no login)
Of the schools you listed, the following have NOT applied for recognition by the California Medical Board:
IUHS
Windsor
St. John's
MUA
The following schools have not applied, but have requested the application forms within the last five years (although requesting the application forms does not mean the school will follow through and apply and subsequently be approved):
St. Mary's
St. Matthews
PBU
UNIBE
CASHU
George Washington
Kigezi
St. Eustatius
Saba
The following schools were disapproved by the California Medical Board (theoretically, they could petition for reconsideration if they believe they have corrected their deficiencies):
UTESA
Spartan
Antigua
No school is "blacklisted" - all schools would be fairly and impartially reviewed - but California law will NOT accommodate Distance Learning Programs.
Posted on Mar 12, 2000, 2:27 PM
from IP address 165.235.24.2
To Pat Park: Requirements to practice in CA?
by anon (no login)
Hi Mrs. Pat Park,
I'm a foreign medical student. What are the requirements for a physician to practice in CA? Thank you for your response!
Posted on Mar 12, 2000, 2:59 PM
from IP address 209.244.107.75
Calif. requirements
by Pat Park, Calif. Med. Bd. (no login)
The first requirement to practice in California is to complete a medical education curriculum that complies with California's minimum requirements and graduate from a medical school recognized by the California Medical Board. The other requirements are pretty routine: pass USMLE Steps 1, 2 and 3 and complete two years of ACGME-accredited residency training. That's a simple description of California's licensing requirements.
Posted on Mar 14, 2000, 12:06 PM
from IP address 165.235.24.2
contact for CA requirments?
by LT (no login)
Dear Pat,
Thank you for your previous response! Where or who should I contact to get a detailed requirements of getting license to practice in CA?
Thank you!
LT
Posted on Mar 14, 2000, 1:02 PM
from IP address 209.245.135.93
Thank you for being on this forum; it prevents lots of mispromises by foreign medical schools for us
by LT (no login)
Your appearance on this forum as an official from a recognized med board prevents lots of misrepresentations and/or mispromises by those not legitimate foreign medical schools. This saves us, hopeful doctor, from lots of headaches on requirements and financial burdens later on. Once again, Thank you for your presence on this forum, whenever you can! :)))
LT
Posted on Mar 14, 2000, 1:08 PM
from IP address 209.245.135.93
Untitled
by Anonymous (no login)
Two years of residency training???
Form L3 which describes Section 2096 says "at least one year of postgraduate training. . ."
Posted on Mar 14, 2000, 8:31 PM
from IP address 4.54.133.35
New licensing law
by Pat Park, Calif. Med. Bd. (no login)
Section 2102 of the California Business and Professions Code was amended effective 1/1/99 to require 2 years of ACGME residency training.
Posted on Mar 15, 2000, 7:40 AM
from IP address 165.235.24.2
Untitled
by Anonymous (no login)
This should override the old requirement? Gee, my analyst at Medical Board of California sent me an outdated form! Thanks.
Posted on Mar 15, 2000, 3:25 PM
from IP address 38.226.72.66
Form wasn't redesigned
by Pat Park, Calif. Med. Bd. (no login)
Sorry. I should have clarified that. The Form L3 wasn't redesigned yet because we have some other statutory amendments pending. So Section 2096, which is quoted on the reverse of the form, still states that one year is required for licensure. The second required training year appears in a different section, Section 2102. It's kind of complicated to explain.
Posted on Mar 15, 2000, 3:44 PM
from IP address 165.235.24.2
Untitled
by Anonymous (no login)
I thought I'd have my CA license on 2001 and be a full-pledged physician. . . so near and yet so far. Well I've been through tougher situations. I think I can handle an extra year. Thanks again for the clarification.
Posted on Mar 15, 2000, 4:49 PM
from IP address 38.226.72.66
eastern europe programs
by neil correia (Login ncor33)
Forum Moderator
your words are a little harsh, and i am sure they are accurate to a degree..however, broad negative statements are more harmful than helpful...anyhow, many eastern european programs must be horrible, or else their would be a lot more happy students. but the point of this post is to be sure that a four year program is acceptable in the state you wish to practice in! in california, for example, pat park told me that four year programs would NOT be approved in california, because they are being designed exclusively for americans. they will approve parrallel programs ONLY-that is the english course must parrallel exactly the native course in order to be acceptable. now this may seem ludicrous to you (as it does to me) but last i heard it was the way of the golden state. and this is one of the reasons i am in a 6 year program...if this is no longer accurate i would love to hear it, but please verify for yourself with pat park in california. and no, charles uni english program is not on the approved list last i heard. but i took a leap of faith after discussing the guidlines with her and noting that my school is applying now. best of luck, hope this helps!
by anon (no login)
Can you tell us which one of the following schools have applied or requested apps for CA (i.e. considering to apply for CA approval).
IUHS
St. Mary's
St. Mathews
Pacific Basin(PBU-SOM)
Windsor
St. john's
UNIBE
UTESA
CAHSU-Belize
Spartan
Antigua Health Science University
GW SOM (Lord Liverpool Univ in Nue Island)
Keigezi
Also are there any Universities that are blacklisted in Ca, i.e. will not be approved even if they apply.
Thanks.
No schools applied
by Pat Park, Calif Med Bd (no login)
Of the schools you listed, the following have NOT applied for recognition by the California Medical Board:
IUHS
Windsor
St. John's
MUA
The following schools have not applied, but have requested the application forms within the last five years (although requesting the application forms does not mean the school will follow through and apply and subsequently be approved):
St. Mary's
St. Matthews
PBU
UNIBE
CASHU
George Washington
Kigezi
St. Eustatius
Saba
The following schools were disapproved by the California Medical Board (theoretically, they could petition for reconsideration if they believe they have corrected their deficiencies):
UTESA
Spartan
Antigua
No school is "blacklisted" - all schools would be fairly and impartially reviewed - but California law will NOT accommodate Distance Learning Programs.
Posted on Mar 12, 2000, 2:27 PM
from IP address 165.235.24.2
To Pat Park: Requirements to practice in CA?
by anon (no login)
Hi Mrs. Pat Park,
I'm a foreign medical student. What are the requirements for a physician to practice in CA? Thank you for your response!
Posted on Mar 12, 2000, 2:59 PM
from IP address 209.244.107.75
Calif. requirements
by Pat Park, Calif. Med. Bd. (no login)
The first requirement to practice in California is to complete a medical education curriculum that complies with California's minimum requirements and graduate from a medical school recognized by the California Medical Board. The other requirements are pretty routine: pass USMLE Steps 1, 2 and 3 and complete two years of ACGME-accredited residency training. That's a simple description of California's licensing requirements.
Posted on Mar 14, 2000, 12:06 PM
from IP address 165.235.24.2
contact for CA requirments?
by LT (no login)
Dear Pat,
Thank you for your previous response! Where or who should I contact to get a detailed requirements of getting license to practice in CA?
Thank you!
LT
Posted on Mar 14, 2000, 1:02 PM
from IP address 209.245.135.93
Thank you for being on this forum; it prevents lots of mispromises by foreign medical schools for us
by LT (no login)
Your appearance on this forum as an official from a recognized med board prevents lots of misrepresentations and/or mispromises by those not legitimate foreign medical schools. This saves us, hopeful doctor, from lots of headaches on requirements and financial burdens later on. Once again, Thank you for your presence on this forum, whenever you can! :)))
LT
Posted on Mar 14, 2000, 1:08 PM
from IP address 209.245.135.93
Untitled
by Anonymous (no login)
Two years of residency training???
Form L3 which describes Section 2096 says "at least one year of postgraduate training. . ."
Posted on Mar 14, 2000, 8:31 PM
from IP address 4.54.133.35
New licensing law
by Pat Park, Calif. Med. Bd. (no login)
Section 2102 of the California Business and Professions Code was amended effective 1/1/99 to require 2 years of ACGME residency training.
Posted on Mar 15, 2000, 7:40 AM
from IP address 165.235.24.2
Untitled
by Anonymous (no login)
This should override the old requirement? Gee, my analyst at Medical Board of California sent me an outdated form! Thanks.
Posted on Mar 15, 2000, 3:25 PM
from IP address 38.226.72.66
Form wasn't redesigned
by Pat Park, Calif. Med. Bd. (no login)
Sorry. I should have clarified that. The Form L3 wasn't redesigned yet because we have some other statutory amendments pending. So Section 2096, which is quoted on the reverse of the form, still states that one year is required for licensure. The second required training year appears in a different section, Section 2102. It's kind of complicated to explain.
Posted on Mar 15, 2000, 3:44 PM
from IP address 165.235.24.2
Untitled
by Anonymous (no login)
I thought I'd have my CA license on 2001 and be a full-pledged physician. . . so near and yet so far. Well I've been through tougher situations. I think I can handle an extra year. Thanks again for the clarification.
Posted on Mar 15, 2000, 4:49 PM
from IP address 38.226.72.66
eastern europe programs
by neil correia (Login ncor33)
Forum Moderator
your words are a little harsh, and i am sure they are accurate to a degree..however, broad negative statements are more harmful than helpful...anyhow, many eastern european programs must be horrible, or else their would be a lot more happy students. but the point of this post is to be sure that a four year program is acceptable in the state you wish to practice in! in california, for example, pat park told me that four year programs would NOT be approved in california, because they are being designed exclusively for americans. they will approve parrallel programs ONLY-that is the english course must parrallel exactly the native course in order to be acceptable. now this may seem ludicrous to you (as it does to me) but last i heard it was the way of the golden state. and this is one of the reasons i am in a 6 year program...if this is no longer accurate i would love to hear it, but please verify for yourself with pat park in california. and no, charles uni english program is not on the approved list last i heard. but i took a leap of faith after discussing the guidlines with her and noting that my school is applying now. best of luck, hope this helps!