So, Where is the New Campus???

[Yossarrian]

There are claims by some on this forum that B.S. classes are being held in Belize. So, where??? We all seem to agree that MUA-B was evicted from the original building which is now up for sale? Naming the actual place of instruction on the Caye would lend credibility to SaveDafur's posts.

[SaveDarfur]

brother! please tell me why are your posts about mua b so vindictive? so negative? with such zeal?. even if there is just one good story coming out of mua belize, you will NEVER acknowledge it just constantly fear mongering and thrashing, yet you keep quiet about your current school. I HIGHLY doubt it was a "step up", maybe a lateral move or so. is your new institution perfect? you must admit, in some circles it's quite laughable. only if you came out with your real school, you would lend credit. or instead of being biased or skewed you can give a more balanced view or approach.yes i am also very interesting in learning more about the schools new temporary digs, please call and ask and do share what you learn. of course i have no beef with you, i don't even know you. but i do get jaded with the blanket wide thrashing because you are aware also, there's a lot of students who finished the entire program. please don't take everybody else down for whatever issues you may have with the school. don't paint everyone with a broad paint brush, some of us graduated during the good times back in 2002-2003 etc. IT'S NOT OUR FAULT. LET US LIVE. PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE NOT HELPING. RUMOR IS SOME PEOPLE WERE DISMISSED FOR NEFARIOUS ACTIVITIES AT CAMPUS. MAYBE YOU ARE ONE OF THEM, MAYBE YOU ARE NOT. it just sounds like you have an agenda, by scaring everyone especially the innocent students who were ignorant of what was going on with the schools turbulent history or what's in store in the future. i'm sure you don't want to destroy every one's lives and aspirations? please be more specific and don't attack everyone or generalize everyone had the same experience that you appeared to have. just food for thought.

[claudia555555]

Come on, SaveDarfur. Are you trying to blame students for the school mismanagement that led to the loss of its campus? I think it is the fault of the Dean and the administration to manage those things that make a school run properly. You say the school has been there for 7 years so can your school show a list of graduates in residency atleast? Schools that are running for 7 years usually expand and offer better opportunities for the students. How many clinical sites are available? are they green book? How many professors are there at Basic Sciences? How many students? Where is the website for the school? The school seems to be in serious financial difficulties and any perspective student should get these questions answered before deciding to attend such a school. Just my opinion.

[SaveDarfur]

yes the school should have a website, yes fact is there are residents from mua b. some of them feel it's a matter of privacy they do not want to get sucked into all this drama. but by all means, i would highly suggest people call the office and demand the name of at least the hospitals. OF COURSE I WOULD WANT TO ASSUME CERTAIN "MUA B BASHER" ARE AWARE OR HAVE DONE SO" but that would never serve there cause of what appears to be retribution or some sort of retaliation. even if you did not enjoy your experience at mua belize. if you had PASSED the semesters or semester, you can easily transfer into a "medicore" or average program or a better program depending on scores. obviously people have or did, but yet they keep coming back and attacking. not all of us had or have that privilege of transfering. some of us were'nt affected by all the drama and turmoil. others have moved on to advanced places such as step 2's and interviews and can't turn back the clock. but they for some reason don't have a solid footing on this forum. because when they try, IT'S AN ATTACK on them right away.other's probably are'nt aware because valuemd is relatively speaking "new" did not exist in 2003, 2004 etc. IF YOU CALL THE SCHOOL, THEY NEVER VIEW IT AS LOSS OF CAMPUS, THEY REFER TO THE SITUATION AS "TEMPORARY"..NO ONE HERE IS A SCHOOL REP OR CAN CLAIM OTHERWISE, just maybe they will be back in the building soon? maybe not? but the agenda pushers make it sound like everything is the BE ALL AND END ALL, like there's something "new" here, like there' aren't other schools struggleing or in the same boat. I BET HALF OF PEOPLE HERE TRANSFERED INTO A SCHOOL WITH THE SAME B.S. PROBLEMS YET THEY KEEP THAT BURIED TO PROTECT THEIR FUTURES, WHILE THEY WONT WASTE ANYTIME TAKING ALL OF US, WHO BUSTED ARE BEHINDS TO THE GULIATINE, sorry about the typo's.

[Yossarrian]

Save Dafur,

I asked an honest question-instead of a tirade so remniscent of the female "Dean" of MUA-B simply answer the question. If there are classes, where are they being held? An address please. No one should be fearful of telling the truth. Yossarrian

[claudia555555]

So you are finally admitting that the campus on the island is closed. If you are so concerned about the future of students that were not able to transfer then you will not try to promote this school to prospective students. Do you want to see more students getting stuck with a school that won't even issue transcripts or refunds to students? Students that are still at the school for whatever reason should understand the problems many who completed their Basic Sciences or part of it but are unable to get their transcripts or in some cases refund for tuition paid for the following semesters. You expect these students to keep quiet so that the 2 or 3 students that are still with the school for whatever reason? Those students spent as much as $100,000 or more for their education and have nothing to show for it. Not even a transcript. I feel sorry for them and support them.

[SaveDarfur]

ummmm. claudia555 and others, if you read the posts. TRANSCRIPTS ARE NOW AVAILABLE BY CALLING THE U.S. OFFICE. and try not to trivialize or denegrate us who for whatever reason needed to or chose to graduate with mua b. by saying "2 to 3" students, when there's more like 200-300 students have passed through mua belize doors and finished in the past 7 years. WHERE DO YOU GO TO SCHOOL? ST.GEORGE'S? (I highly doubt it)

[claudia555555]

If you read my post carefully SaveDarfur, I said 2 or 3 students still remaining at the school at this present time. It is upto you if you or other students (if any left) want to stay with the school but for you to try to trap innocent students by PMing them false information is pathetic and wrong.

[SaveDarfur]

what FALSE info pm are you refering to? please elaborate. also go ahead and please call the school's u.s. office and have them verify these statements which are 100% true: MUA BELIZE STUDENTS HAVE BEEN OFFERED RESIDENT PROGRAMS IN U.S. INCLUDING TEXAS mua belize has had already 3 graduations and one more in months' time. mua belize has DIRECT relationships with new hospital sites such as arrowhead hospital in massachusets. (also use agency's by the way) mua belize has had dozens of students who've cleared usmle's exams, some have transfered, some have stayed. i invited you to call and ask them to back this up or confirm or deny these comments. i already know what the answers are. but you wouldn't believe me, so i invite you to do it. the phone numbers have been posted earlier. by all means. please do.

[dt]

ummmm. claudia555 and others, if you read the posts. TRANSCRIPTS ARE NOW AVAILABLE BY CALLING THE U.S. OFFICE. and try not to trivialize or denegrate us who for whatever reason needed to or chose to graduate with mua b. by saying "2 to 3" students, when there's more like 200-300 students have passed through mua belize doors and finished in the past 7 years. WHERE DO YOU GO TO SCHOOL? ST.GEORGE'S? (I highly doubt it)

"200-300 students"??


what FALSE info pm are you refering to? please elaborate. also go ahead and please call the school's u.s. office and have them verify these statements which are 100% true: MUA BELIZE STUDENTS HAVE BEEN OFFERED RESIDENT PROGRAMS IN U.S. INCLUDING TEXAS mua belize has had already 3 graduations and one more in months' time. mua belize has DIRECT relationships with new hospital sites such as arrowhead hospital in massachusets. (also use agency's by the way) mua belize has had dozens of students who've cleared usmle's exams, some have transfered, some have stayed. i invited you to call and ask them to back this up or confirm or deny these comments. i already know what the answers are. but you wouldn't believe me, so i invite you to do it. the phone numbers have been posted earlier. by all means. please do.


Let's see... you, as a recruiter, claimed 300 students had passed thru your school in 7 years. Yet, how many in residency? How many have fully unrestricted license? Zero?


Also, why would you, as a student in clinical rotations away from Belize, claim to have so much inside info on the school?


What are you really? Billybill reincarnate?

[SaveDarfur]

how the heck can mua belize have full unrestricted licensed graduates? it's only been around 7 years you @#$^%. i ca'nt believe you can stoop so low and hold that against them. that is a VERY ASININE comment to make or more or less stupid logic to use against mua belize.YES 200-300 STUDENTS! mua belize at one time was a SISTER SCHOOL to SABA and Nevis. I get my info by calling the U.S. office and then verifying it through my contacts and circle of mua friends, and then finally on a on and off bases chatting with my "friend" :rolleyes:in san pedro.

[Yossarrian]

Hey SaveDafur, please, please answer the question since you are such an expert on MUA-B and so initmately know the history. Where are basic science classes being held and how many students are enrolled in each semester.? How hard is it to answer this simple request? BTW I did a search on past posts which say that at its peak, before Saba dumped MUA-B, there were no more than 70 students ont he Caye-certainly never 200-300. Yossarrian

[SaveDarfur]

200-300 meaning total. not at any given time. that number is combined for 7 years. again this is something i am throwing out there, from my 5 semesters spent in san pedro, plus the 2 semesters prior when my cousin was there, etc. also i DO NOT KNOW WHERE classes are being held. please call the u.s. office and ask, i did not bother because i am not in basic sciences anymore, and it has minimal immediate impact on me. whats the "big deal?" off shore schools move building to building all the time, especially 2nd and 3rd tier schools. i know the "history" because i spent 20 months on san pedro and several months making rounds with fellow students. vs. someone who might have spent 2 weeks there, or maybe knew someonthere etc.

[SaveDarfur]

you seemed to be full of aggression yossarian, it appears you have some kind of personal agenda. MUA BELIZE WAS NEVER "DUMPED" BY SABA, i take offence to that word. i heard it was constant bickering and going back and fourth between nevis and belize, to the point where nobody was being a teamplayer or pulling their own weight. it was more of a heavy handed approach from nevis, minimal from saba, but because the two are intertwined the relationship was severed at some point. i was ticked off big time. nobody really came out and told the students. NOT EVEN NEVIS OR SABA ADMINSTRATORS.:evil: even afer belize was cut off, they were STILL sending students down there, the ones that got cut loose for failing classes at nevis and saba. but they got the last laugh because 2 of them are now in residency programs with mua b degrees. one african american and one other minority.

[Anthony Thomasson]

After reading "SaveDarfur" posts, with their peculiar wording and use of capital letters - I think it is reasonably fair to say this is infact "BillyBill" better known as the couple from North Dakota who own MUA Belize (Mr. and Mrs. J & R Ser***nd) - the only medical school that I know of which is owned and run - by a couple who call themselves doctors, but have never passed the USMLE's and have never been licensed, let alone been accepted into a residency program.

Remember: MUA Belize has NO licensed graduates, NO buildings owned, NO medical center or hospital, NO University affiliation, NO undergraduate programs, NO Masters programs, NO medical research, NO ACGME (Green book) clinical rotations, NO loan programs, NO DOE approval, NO State approvals, NO CT, Doppler or any other medical technology, NO infrastructure etc...All of this Equals = NO Medical School!

Stay away from this bogus "school."

[dt]

how the heck can mua belize have full unrestricted licensed graduates? it's only been around 7 years you @#$^%. i ca'nt believe you can stoop so low and hold that against them. that is a VERY ASININE comment to make or more or less stupid logic to use against mua belize.YES 200-300 STUDENTS! mua belize at one time was a SISTER SCHOOL to SABA and Nevis. I get my info by calling the U.S. office and then verifying it through my contacts and circle of mua friends, and then finally on a on and off bases chatting with my "friend" :rolleyes:in san pedro.


okay, how about any licensed graduates? how many in residency?

out of 300(??) and 7 years, how many?

and tell us how mua-b is doing financially? and if there are any outstanding lawsuits?

how many md1 students this term?

please substantiate your claim.

[Yossarrian]

Hey SaveDafur, you are able to provide such a detailed history of MUA-B. Now, you omitted that the owners were first forcefully removed from SMU-that fact is well documented in the San Pedro Sun. I talked to a fellow who was in some sort of MD-Ph.D program who confirmed that there indeed was then split with Nevis and Saba and that thereafter faculty and students dropped out rapidly. So, shall we keep dredging up old facts or will you lend some legitimacy to this discussion by providing such simple information like the location, address and phone number of the basic science campus on the Caye??? Yossarrian

[SaveDarfur]

why cannot you sir, call the school's office and demand to know the location. do not even i.d. yourself. just pretend you are a prospect. the heck i know where this new campus is. somebody phone the office and post the information. yes one of you evil attackers who are inconsiderate of those who attended mua belize under the guise of being saba's protege. yes destroy their lives too.

[Anthony Thomasson]

You don't know where the "new campus" is in San Pedro (one street)? Gosh, that's strange as you seem to know everything else about the school! It's failed history with SMU then later SABA, who on this forum might have"flunked out", it's clinical situation, it's lawsuits and on and on. C'mon, you just look plain silly at this point. Fess up. you'll feel better afterwards.

Remember: MUA Belize has NO licensed graduates in America, NO licensed graduates in Belize AND, NO licensed graduates in any other country! NO buildings owned (rented rooms only), NO medical center or hospital, NO University affiliation, NO undergraduate programs, NO Masters programs, NO medical research, NO ACGME (Green book) approved clinical rotations, NO federal loan programs (either Belize or American), NO DOE approval, NO State approvals, NO CT, Doppler or any other medical technology, NO campus/ infrastructure etc...And all this despite the fact that they have been in existence since 2001! Obviously they have NO "Medical School" either! This couldn't be any more clear.

[Britimg]

why cannot you sir, call the school's office and demand to know the location. do not even i.d. yourself. just pretend you are a prospect. the heck i know where this new campus is. somebody phone the office and post the information. yes one of you evil attackers who are inconsiderate of those who attended mua belize under the guise of being saba's protege. yes destroy their lives too.

are u currently a student? how many student in ur term? you said you were done with basic sciences...so are u in clinicals? if so where? which hospital? Tried calling the us office but since u guys haven't paid the phone bill, it never connects!!!

[SaveDarfur]

mr.a.t. you are a real scary scary person. a warped freak too. you disgust me. especially your physco behavior on display. what's your fasincation with the dean? you are so gross. grow up. i ain't no dean. heck. i want them gone too

[Britimg]

mr.a.t. you are a real scary scary person. a warped freak too. you disgust me. especially your physco behavior on display. what's your fasincation with the dean? you are so gross. grow up. i ain't no dean. heck. i want them gone too

you contradict yourself in every post.