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Dru
09-16-2007, 01:33 AM
CMU has made it into the Wikipedia! See:

Caribbean Medical University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Medical_University)


The Caribbean Medical University is based in Curacao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curacao), Netherland Antilles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherland_Antilles). It is not accredited (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_accreditation) by any accreditation body recognized by its country. As such, its degrees and credits might not be acceptable to employers or other institutions, and use of degree titles may be restricted or illegal in some jurisdictions.
The school does not have a charter to operate, nor is it listed in FAIMER (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAIMER)'s International Medical Education Directory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Medical_Education_Directory) as being recognized by the the appropriate civil authorities.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Medical_University#_note-0). It is also listed by the Oregon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon) Office of Degree Authorization as unaccredited, and therefore its degree is illegal to use in that state.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Medical_University#_note-1)

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caribbean_Medical_University&action=edit&section=1)] References

<LI id=_note-0>^ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Medical_University#_ref-0) IMED Directory for Netherland Antilles (http://imed.ecfmg.org/results.asp?country=665&school=&currpage=1&cname=NETHERLANDS+ANTILLES&city=&region=CA&rname=Central+America%2FCaribbean&psize=25)
^ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Medical_University#_ref-1) Oregon Office of Degree Authorization list of unaccredited schools (http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.aspx)
[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caribbean_Medical_University&action=edit&section=2)] External links


Official site (http://www.cmumed.org/)
US Dept. of Education Information on Diploma Mills (http://www.ed.gov/students/prep/college/diplomamills/accreditation.html)Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Medical_University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Medical_University)"
Category (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Categories): Unaccredited institutions of higher learning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Unaccredited_institutions_of_higher_learn ing)

eastern2western
09-16-2007, 02:05 AM
That is not a very big deal because any thing can be listed on wikipedia as long as some one is willing to write it. That is what so great about wikipedia because you get a wide variety of information that is usually no cover by a normal encyclopedia. However, it is also the major flaw of wikipedia because companies can use the site as a source of advertisment and a lot of its contents do not have a very legitimate source of reference.

lacarthic
09-16-2007, 07:26 AM
dosn't say anything really good:
"The Caribbean Medical University of Curacao, Netherland Antilles is not accredited by any accreditation body recognized by its country. As such, its degrees and credits might not be acceptable to employers or other institutions, and use of degree titles may be restricted or illegal in some jurisdictions.
The school does not have a charter to operate, nor is it listed in FAIMER's International Medical Education Directory as being recognized by the the appropriate civil authorities.[1]. It is also listed by the Oregon Office of Degree Authorization as unaccredited, and therefore its degree is illegal to use in that state.[2]"

teratos
09-16-2007, 09:08 AM
Yeah, that certainly isn't a flattering write-up. One of the good things about wikipedia is that things aren't always sunny and bright.

Scott1981
09-16-2007, 09:11 AM
we know cmu administrators still read vmd frequently. lets see how long it takes for them to alter the article and spin the place as the next best thing in the carib.

MDXRS22
09-16-2007, 10:38 AM
They can easily log on that site and change it at will.

eastern2western
09-16-2007, 10:46 AM
dosn't say anything really good:
"The Caribbean Medical University of Curacao, Netherland Antilles is not accredited by any accreditation body recognized by its country. As such, its degrees and credits might not be acceptable to employers or other institutions, and use of degree titles may be restricted or illegal in some jurisdictions.
The school does not have a charter to operate, nor is it listed in FAIMER's International Medical Education Directory as being recognized by the the appropriate civil authorities.[1]. It is also listed by the Oregon Office of Degree Authorization as unaccredited, and therefore its degree is illegal to use in that state.[2]"
Such example just shows the strength and weakness of wikipedia. It is place where people can get the most up to date information, but it is a place that contains information that can be change by anyone from anywhere.

Scott1981
09-16-2007, 11:08 AM
Such example just shows the strength and weakness of wikipedia. It is place where people can get the most up to date information, but it is a place that contains information that can be change by anyone from anywhere.

this current entry is short, but highly accurate with proper links to back it up.

stateofequilibrium
09-16-2007, 11:09 AM
I wonder who wrote it?

Genossa maximillian
09-16-2007, 11:59 AM
You post it like if it made it to Britanica Encyclopaedia but it happened with St. Chris too. As much as the information is accurate, we do know that Wikipedia is not an acceptable source of reference for most ACCREDITED U.S. educational institutions, see the irony of whoever post it? Remember the little scandal with WIKI? A moderator that was fired because he pretended to be a PhD and turned out to be a 2nd year college dropout?

We are beating on the same thing over and over folks, we know what the Inspector General said, that they have no license or charter but are working on getting one. (thats what he said, once they get it , then the argument will shift towards something else I am sure) We are simply walking in circles here.






CMU has made it into the Wikipedia! See:

Caribbean Medical University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Medical_University)

TonyIvey
09-16-2007, 12:09 PM
It happened with St. Chris too. As much as the information is accurate, we do know that Wikipedia is not an acceptable source of reference for many ACCREDITED U.S. educational institutions, see the irony of whoever post it? We are beating on the same thing over and over folks, we know what the Inspector General said, that they have no license or charter but are working on getting one. (thats what he said, once they get it , then the argument will shift towards something else I am sure) We are simply walking in circles here.
Actually I do no agrre because I can claim that I am a medical student,buy a few medical equipements and open up a quack operating room in the basement.but as long as I am working on going to school and getting a license,should it be okay,no.
As long as he is collecting tuition he has shown no regard and no intention of getting the accreditation or charter.he is only claiming that they are in the process of getting it becaus eof pressure from people.
he has shown that if he cared about getting the dicuments first he would have done that at first before openeing up.instead he chose to cut through that and collect money.if the pressure stops from here he will not be persistent in getting the documents.he has shown no regard for that at all.
He is here still trying to collect money for january instead of completing the school accreditaition and charter first.

Genossa maximillian
09-16-2007, 12:12 PM
It may be short, it may contain links to back it up, but it is one side of the story, which means it is biased. It would have been more respectable if it would have mentioned that the Government of Curacao is aware that the school is lacking a license and charter and is in the process of obtaining one. Now that my friend, will be unbiased. In the mean time....more of the same stuff that we already know.




this current entry is short, but highly accurate with proper links to back it up.

Genossa maximillian
09-16-2007, 12:14 PM
...however you fail to realize that his claims have been backed up by a government official that already confirmed that they are in the process of getting the license and the charter. That he should have been more patient and wait until he cleared all the red tape, SURE, we agree to this. He couldn't resist the temptation of making a fast buck and now it has backfired badly in terms of public image and reputation, something he seems not to care very much about. You can tell of his inexperience managing a business, he certainly gets an F minor in the subject.





Actually I do no agrre because I can claim that I am a medical student,buy a few medical equipements and open up a quack operating room in the basement.but as long as I am working on going to school and getting a license,should it be okay,no.
As long as he is collecting tuition he has shown no regard and no intention of getting the accreditation or charter.he is only claiming that they are in the process of getting it becaus eof pressure from people.
he has shown that if he cared about getting the dicuments first he would have done that at first before openeing up.instead he chose to cut through that and collect money.if the pressure stops from here he will not be persistent in getting the documents.he has shown no regard for that at all.
He is here still trying to collect money for january instead of completing the school accreditaition and charter first.

TonyIvey
09-16-2007, 12:17 PM
It may be short, it may contain links to back it up, but it is one side of the story, which means it is biased. It would have been more respectable if it would have mentioned that the Government of Curacao is aware that the school is lacking a license and charter and is in the process of obtaining one. Now that my friend, will be unbiased. In the mean time....more of the same stuff that we already know.
But even the cmu website does not acknowledge that instead they have ben shown to lie that they have all theeir documentations and lied about imed listing and who listing and even lied about a charter and claimed affiliation to another charter.so even thm have not given themselves the benefit of the doubt, they chose to lie.
and by doing that they hav not given the potential students the pull picture themselves.they have claimed to be something they are not and have in multiple times made claims to things they did not have,some have been taken off due to the pressure from people here.
if they themselves own up to the fact that tehy are still in the process of getting these things,people will be more inclined to do so too. but for them they chose to lie and embelish.n my opinion that wikiped report is a bit linient,they should have exposed the real deal and even inluded a link to this site.so people can see for themselves all the threads here.

rokshana
09-16-2007, 12:18 PM
You post it like if it made it to Britanica Encyclopaedia but it happened with St. Chris too. As much as the information is accurate, we do know that Wikipedia is not an acceptable source of reference for most ACCREDITED U.S. educational institutions, see the irony of whoever post it? Remember the little scandal with WIKI? A moderator that was fired because he pretended to be a PhD and turned out to be a 2nd year college dropout?

We are beating on the same thing over and over folks, we know what the Inspector General said, that they have no license or charter but are working on getting one. (thats what he said, once they get it , then the argument will shift towards something else I am sure) We are simply walking in circles here.


my question is...why does it BUG you so much that people post here- even if it is "beating a dead horse" as you say.

Personally i didn't think posting that CMU was in Wikipedia was beating that poor horse- i didn't know about it- so it was somewhat informative.

I don't understand why you think your posting of your email form the inspector general is the last word on this issue.

if reading these posts upsets you so much...don't read them....

DOCplucinski
09-16-2007, 12:20 PM
You can tell of his inexperience managing a business, he certainly gets an F minor in the subject.
yikes, an F-..that's like superbad

TonyIvey
09-16-2007, 12:20 PM
...however you fail to realize that his claims have been backed up by a government official that already confirmed that they are in the process of getting the license and the charter. That he should have been more patient and wait until he cleared all the red tape, SURE, we agree to this. He couldn't resist the temptation of making a fast buck and now it has backfired badly in terms of public image and reputation, something he seems not to care very much about. You can tell of his inexperience managing a business, he certainly gets an F minor in the subject.
the government did not back anything up really, they just pointed out to many here what we even assumed they had bothered to get a license.I remember I was schocked to find out that beside the charter, they did not even have a common license yet.
Once I register in a school they can always me back up that I am a student still learning, but I can be running a chop shop from home,and claiming I am a licensed doctor already.

TonyIvey
09-16-2007, 12:27 PM
...however you fail to realize that his claims have been backed up by a government official that already confirmed that they are in the process of getting the license and the charter. That he should have been more patient and wait until he cleared all the red tape, SURE, we agree to this. He couldn't resist the temptation of making a fast buck and now it has backfired badly in terms of public image and reputation, something he seems not to care very much about. You can tell of his inexperience managing a business, he certainly gets an F minor in the subject.
Not being able to resist making a fast buck at the student's expense is why people referr to it as a scam, that is what scammers do, make a quick buck at someone's expense.by ignoring all the steps it has made the whole thing illegal and subject to criminal investigations.simple.

ind3r
09-16-2007, 12:44 PM
Just to let you guys know, it has been established by a study published in a reputable science journal...in fact the most reputable(I'm sure you guys know its name)...that Wikipedia is as good as a reference as the Encyclopedia Britannica.

Scott1981
09-16-2007, 12:50 PM
I wonder who wrote it?

somebody with the username "leuko." under his profile, it says that he is an medical student, certified emt, and a scuba diver. i think he frequents vmd under another username that we are all familiar with. i still think its a great short and accurate article of the place.

MDXRS22
09-16-2007, 12:51 PM
I will change it as soon as I have a pc.

Genossa maximillian
09-16-2007, 05:55 PM
I think you did not read my entire post when you incorrectly assume that I imply the email was the last word on the issue. Read my post carefully ...it clearly says..." (thats what he said, once they get it , then the argument will shift towards something else I am sure" You see, I left it open for further discussion and questions. You may assume what you want, but we are walking in circles here until all this mess is clarified, not by you, not by me, much less from the CMU people, but from who really matters: The Government of Cuaracao, and that my colleague, is my whole point.




my question is...why does it BUG you so much that people post here- even if it is "beating a dead horse" as you say.

Personally i didn't think posting that CMU was in Wikipedia was beating that poor horse- i didn't know about it- so it was somewhat informative.

I don't understand why you think your posting of your email form the inspector general is the last word on this issue.

if reading these posts upsets you so much...don't read them....

Genossa maximillian
09-16-2007, 06:00 PM
Technically they are backing RL claims that in fact they are awaiting for all the red tape clearance. It's a technicality. What's worse is his effort and recruiting camapign with no due licenses to operate, that is wrong, simply wrong and unfortunately, the stubborness of CMU administration on the face of its problems makes the situation undesirable and hurts (probably for good) their image which is as bad as it gets for any new school. Any reasonable person will simply stay away from this school.


the government did not back anything up really, they just pointed out to many here what we even assumed they had bothered to get a license.I remember I was schocked to find out that beside the charter, they did not even have a common license yet.
Once I register in a school they can always me back up that I am a student still learning, but I can be running a chop shop from home,and claiming I am a licensed doctor already.

Genossa maximillian
09-16-2007, 06:05 PM
Actually I should have said F minus, not minor, F minor will be used in music scales. Ultrabad, megabad, superbad...yes it is.

yikes, an F-..that's like superbad

eastern2western
09-16-2007, 06:43 PM
Technically they are backing RL claims that in fact they are awaiting for all the red tape clearance. It's a technicality. What's worse is his effort and recruiting camapign with no due licenses to operate, that is wrong, simply wrong and unfortunately, the stubborness of CMU administration on the face of its problems makes the situation undesirable and hurts (probably for good) their image which is as bad as it gets for any new school. Any reasonable person will simply stay away from this school.
edited due to foul language.

Scott1981
09-16-2007, 07:46 PM
guess what.... RL is at it trying to change the CMU wikipedia article.

look at the load of garbage he posted there:
Caribbean Medical University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caribbean_Medical_University&oldid=158291040)

well i tracked the editor to guess where :lol:? COMCAST CABLE COMMUNICATIONS, INC ILLINOIS. who would have guessed it :roll:?

luckily our friend leuko changed it back:
Caribbean Medical University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Medical_University)

Scott1981
09-16-2007, 07:54 PM
when RL created his censored version of the article of how the place is the next harvard...... he also made a link to his name.

doesnt that lead the door open to somebody actually making an article from that link about RL? what is wikipedia's policy on that because im sure that he has plenty of enemies on the island.... even though that moves onto a real legal slipperry slope?

rokshana
09-16-2007, 08:24 PM
guess what.... RL is at it trying to change the CMU wikipedia article.

look at the load of garbage he posted there:
Caribbean Medical University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caribbean_Medical_University&oldid=158291040)

well i tracked the editor to guess where :lol:? COMCAST CABLE COMMUNICATIONS, INC ILLINOIS. who would have guessed it :roll:?

luckily our friend leuko changed it back:
Caribbean Medical University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Medical_University)

he lists a 140 acre campus- does that man know what 140 acres looks like????

i guess if you are gonna exaggerate, exaggerate BIG!!!

TonyIvey
09-16-2007, 08:54 PM
guess what.... RL is at it trying to change the CMU wikipedia article.

look at the load of garbage he posted there:
Caribbean Medical University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caribbean_Medical_University&oldid=158291040)

well i tracked the editor to guess where :lol:? COMCAST CABLE COMMUNICATIONS, INC ILLINOIS. who would have guessed it :roll:?

luckily our friend leuko changed it back:
Caribbean Medical University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Medical_University)
Does he even know how much worse he makes this whole charade by moving to the wiki arena and moving his lies there.this proves this guy does not look before jumping in head first as with opening a school without documentation,without even knowing what liabilities lies in lieing in the wiki arena, he has jumped in head first.what a shame.
it's one thing to lie on vmd but wiki has a whole lot of fine print he is not even aware of,haha. this guy is going to get himself into so much trouble he will have some authorities knocking on his dor someday soon.

TonyIvey
09-16-2007, 09:06 PM
Technically they are backing RL claims that in fact they are awaiting for all the red tape clearance. It's a technicality. What's worse is his effort and recruiting camapign with no due licenses to operate, that is wrong, simply wrong and unfortunately, the stubborness of CMU administration on the face of its problems makes the situation undesirable and hurts (probably for good) their image which is as bad as it gets for any new school. Any reasonable person will simply stay away from this school.
The reason I said they were not backing the school up was that they did not come out in defence of cmu,but it was a piece of information that was uncovered through your reseach.it may lend some corraboration but I think they are just saying what they have.Although by that information coming to light it makes the school look much worse than was previously suspected.

TonyIvey
09-16-2007, 09:10 PM
he lists a 140 acre campus- does that man know what 140 acres looks like????

i guess if you are gonna exaggerate, exaggerate BIG!!!
The funny thing is that by such unncessary exaggerations,an average person can just stop readin right there and dismiss the whole articel as bogus,140 acres? haha, even for other established schools that may be a stretch.
As with their plagarised website he will soon run and change the 140 acres haha.

Genossa maximillian
09-16-2007, 10:17 PM
What makes you believe I don't live in America or don't know American law? Speaking of things that come out of people's mouth...ever heard about oral contracts, defamation, etc. Just to mention a few. Please, don't try to lecture me on American Law, not getting personal or anything, just debunking your incorrect assumptions.




Technically, there is nothing on paper yet. In america, anything that comes out of a person's mouth is all **. The only truth is what is on a piece of paper.

eastern2western
09-17-2007, 12:44 AM
he lists a 140 acre campus- does that man know what 140 acres looks like????

i guess if you are gonna exaggerate, exaggerate BIG!!!
Dude, 140 acres is a lot of space for 7 faculty members and 24 students.

Dru
09-17-2007, 03:39 AM
http://www.cmumed.org/about/img/campus-map.jpg

rlewkowski
09-17-2007, 08:51 AM
Thats why I invited everyone, including our ValueMD "friends" to the Open House to see the facilities.

DOCplucinski
09-17-2007, 08:56 AM
Thats why I invited everyone, including our ValueMD "friends" to the Open House to see the facilities.
so i know you're affiliated with CIU or what not but does CMU actually own this campus? this is a big question when trying to get approval status from NY and especially CA. if you don't actually own the campus, it's going to be pretty tough to get these approvals.

Scott1981
09-17-2007, 09:15 AM
so i know you're affiliated with CIU or what not but does CMU actually own this campus? this is a big question when trying to get approval status from NY and especially CA. if you don't actually own the campus, it's going to be pretty tough to get these approvals.

:lol: they have enough trouble just getting the most basic and rudimentary thing of all medical schools...... a charter. no need to worry about ny or ca when their students cant sit for the usmle.

DOCplucinski
09-17-2007, 09:17 AM
are you kidding :lol:. they have enough trouble just getting the most basic and rudimentary thing of all medical schools...... a charter. no need to worry about ny or ca when their students cant sit for the usmle.
hah well i thought i would bring it up since they do adverise this big campus an we've exhausted efforts in the charter issue.

studentdoctobe
09-17-2007, 09:33 AM
Only thing I can think of now is the condition someone posted here a few weeks ago, that listed a whole bunch of symptoms.

The first thing on that list of symtoms was;
"Exaggerates the most ridiculous things" amongst other things that I'm seeing more and more of.

Urgh!.

studentdoctobe
09-17-2007, 10:56 AM
guess what.... RL is at it trying to change the CMU wikipedia article.

look at the load of garbage he posted there:
Caribbean Medical University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caribbean_Medical_University&oldid=158291040)

well i tracked the editor to guess where :lol:? COMCAST CABLE COMMUNICATIONS, INC ILLINOIS. who would have guessed it :roll:?

luckily our friend leuko changed it back:
Caribbean Medical University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Medical_University)


" Caribbean Medical University is a private university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University) located in Curacao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curacao), Netherlands Antilles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_Antilles) and delivers an exceptional medical program that concentrates on basic medical sciences, taught by leading faculty at the state of the art Medical Campus in Curacao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curacao), and clinical rotations offered at affiliated hospitals in the U.S. Caribbean Medical University was founded in 2007 by a Foundation registered on the island of Curacao, supported by the Governor of Netherlands Antilles. A major incentive to create the project was to effectively improve medical education standards, compared to other low budget Caribbean medical schools, which lack of investments and improvements.
Based on the founders extensive experience gathered while being employed by medical schools, we draw a conclusion that there was still room for a professional medical institution, that woud conduct its operations in more ethical manner, reinvest its profit into campus expansion and infrastructure improvements, motivate students as well as faculty staff to identify themselves with the organization and be proud of its growth and reputation.
Is this the same guy who thinks they are going through grooming stages? :lol:

I sincerely feel genuinly sorry for ANYONE who reads anything written by this guy or listens to anything he says and gets deceived! :lol:

Someone would have to be EXTREMELY DESPERATE to fall for any of this.:twisted:

Maxinne
09-20-2007, 07:40 AM
guess what.... RL is at it trying to change the CMU wikipedia article.

look at the load of garbage he posted there:
Caribbean Medical University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caribbean_Medical_University&oldid=158291040)

well i tracked the editor to guess where :lol:? COMCAST CABLE COMMUNICATIONS, INC ILLINOIS. who would have guessed it :roll:?

luckily our friend leuko changed it back:
Caribbean Medical University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Medical_University)
How predictable of him.

DOCplucinski
09-20-2007, 08:30 AM
How predictable of him.
his revision looks more like an advertisement (use of "we") than an actually reference source of how the school really is

Scott1981
09-20-2007, 02:51 PM
did you all see the entry that was deemed vandalism? luckily, leuko's original entry is back as the official one. this restores credibility to the entry. this entry is quite funny, but not practical :lol:.

Caribbean Medical University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caribbean_Medical_University&oldid=158572183)

MYMD
09-20-2007, 03:05 PM
Why is Tony Banned along with MAXINNE? Is there a connection?

DOCplucinski
09-20-2007, 03:11 PM
Why is Tony Banned along with MAXINNE? Is there a connection?
who knows?

diogenes
09-20-2007, 03:51 PM
Delightful irony, just a short while after accusing Genossa Maximillian of being "two-faced" the multiple VMD personalities of Tony/Maxinne are revealed.

anthonyIvy
09-20-2007, 06:55 PM
Why is Tony Banned along with MAXINNE? Is there a connection?

I wanted to address the multiple account status.in my neighborhood there is an active wireless cluster that includes several unsecured wireless connections.
I have a pal of mine that I invited to vmd but he has not joined yet, and from what he told me he mentioned it to his girlfriend who joined, and I did not even know that max is the girlfriend's id. we are all school pals and we live in the same neigborhood.
When I use my laptop outside I am always able to see several wireless connections when I view my list of available connections, out of all the ones available, 2 have very strong connections, mine and my pal's.
It is not unusual for me to be out on the balcony and find that I have drifted into his network,with wireless connection the drifting happens and you dont even realize that you have left one network.sometimes it tells you other times you can't tell.
I don't even think we have the same ISP carrier.It may appear that I may have drifted into his network while posting without knowing,but I can tell you that while my pal has not joined yet I was told his gf did,so that must have been her with id of maxinne.she is a jan 08 student of another caribbean school and my pal and I are also jan 08 students of a caribbean school.
I know for sure that I do not need multiple accounts, it is not that serious here to do that.I can say anything I want with my main id and will not use this one anymore.moderators can delete this one.

MYMD
09-20-2007, 08:47 PM
I wanted to address the multiple account status.in my neighborhood there is an active wireless cluster that includes several unsecured wireless connections.
I have a pal of mine that I invited to vmd but he has not joined yet, and from what he told me he mentioned it to his girlfriend who joined, and I did not even know that max is the girlfriend's id. we are all school pals and we live in the same neigborhood.
When I use my laptop outside I am always able to see several wireless connections when I view my list of available connections, out of all the ones available, 2 have very strong connections, mine and my pal's.
It is not unusual for me to be out on the balcony and find that I have drifted into his network,with wireless connection the drifting happens and you dont even realize that you have left one network.sometimes it tells you other times you can't tell.
I don't even think we have the same ISP carrier.It may appear that I may have drifted into his network while posting without knowing,but I can tell you that while my pal has not joined yet I was told his gf did,so that must have been her with id of maxinne.she is a jan 08 student of another caribbean school and my pal and I are also jan 08 students of a caribbean school.
I know for sure that I do not need multiple accounts, it is not that serious here to do that.I can say anything I want with my main id and will not use this one anymore.moderators can delete this one.

OK but logging on and registering another account with the same IP will just get you banned again, the server does it automatically but not real fast, it happens all of a sudden.

I know this due to another site I mod at.

Good Luck

victor2md
09-21-2007, 03:16 PM
this is to inform that TonyIvey and Maxinne are not telling the truth. Anthonyivy got on the forum and wrote that he told his friend about vmd and his girlfriend must join after that. well this can't be true because maxinne join over a month before tonyivey did. so i think tonyivey is lying again. this forum has become a circus compare to what it use to be. please everyone lets get back to what is important to all the readers. i join to inform that this forum has become a joke because the mod and others are ignoring the fact this guy has been lying his entire time he been posting. come on lets be fair and get this off the forum.

teratos
09-21-2007, 03:44 PM
did you all see the entry that was deemed vandalism? luckily, leuko's original entry is back as the official one. this restores credibility to the entry. this entry is quite funny, but not practical :lol:.

Caribbean Medical University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caribbean_Medical_University&oldid=158572183)

Holy cow. I can't believe they let that one stand. That is just too funny.

studentdoctobe
09-21-2007, 03:48 PM
this is to inform that TonyIvey and Maxinne are not telling the truth. Anthonyivy got on the forum and wrote that he told his friend about vmd and his girlfriend must join after that. well this can't be true because maxinne join over a month before tonyivey did. so i think tonyivey is lying again. this forum has become a circus compare to what it use to be. please everyone lets get back to what is important to all the readers. i join to inform that this forum has become a joke because the mod and others are ignoring the fact this guy has been lying his entire time he been posting. come on lets be fair and get this off the forum.
Reminds me of a certain other member of this forum :twisted:

This guy, you just had to sign up with a new id just to say this? :lol:

Dude, leave irrelevant matters alone, so what, who cares, that is not the focus of this forum.

CMU and all their issues are the focus of the forum. Do not try to divert attention AGAIN.

You make me laugh :lol: This is an easy guess. :twisted:

MYMD
09-21-2007, 03:53 PM
This guy, you think no one knows who you are.

You had to sign up with a new id just to say this :lol:

Dude, you can sign up with any name you like we all know who you are, concentrate on the problems you are dealing with and leave irrelevant matters alone, so what, who cares, that is not the focus of this forum.

CMU and all their issues are the focus of the forum. Do not try to divert attention AGAIN.

You make me laugh :lol: This is an easy guess who you are. :twisted:

I really do not like reading this kind of post, If this is the same person as another ID then they cannot sign up with the same IP address and Multiple accounts is taken very seriously here.

Report the person as possible Multiple account but do not flame please.

If it is the same IP then the system will ban.

studentdoctobe
09-21-2007, 03:54 PM
Maybe we can re-analize the whole situation surrounding MDBonaire and RLewkoski's "multiple account" ban just a few weeks ago.

Wonder what really happened with that and how it came that they were both "suspected" of being handled by one person :lol:

studentdoctobe
09-21-2007, 03:56 PM
I really do not like reading this kind of post, If this is the same person as another ID then they cannot sign up with the same IP address and Multiple accounts is taken very seriously here.

Report the person as possible Multiple account but do not flame please.

If it is the same IP then the system will ban.
I just find it interesting that the person would create a new id just to come back and say that when a lot of people know about certain other situations where that occured recently and as their investigation my have proved otherwise.

Just the other day someone made a direct attack at the guy and now this? C'mon. Why is he coming back to flame the guy?

DOCplucinski
09-21-2007, 04:05 PM
I just find it interesting that the person would create a new id just to come back and say that when a lot of people know about certain other situations where that occured recently and as their investigation my have proved otherwise.

Just the other day someone made a direct attack at the guy and now this? C'mon. Why is he coming back to flame the guy?
are you really THAT concerned?

studentdoctobe
09-21-2007, 04:11 PM
are you really THAT concerned?
As concerned as I am about CMU's attempt to stay open and collect money from naive students.

I don't have to know someone personally to have an opinion on their behalf.

Besides that naive dude that ends up at CMU could be one of my classmates, that I know their parents cannot afford the money they are wasting, but he somehow got duped, while all he wanted was to be a doctor.

victor2md
09-21-2007, 06:25 PM
i have no connection with any carribean medical school. i attend medical school in usa. i have a good friend who is attending sgu. anyway go ahead and check for a mulitple account. this is my only account and its sad that you are automatically assume that i have multiple account. all i was trying to do was tell you guys that this guy is making you guys look like a fool making you believe he is this sincere guy who has this problem with his ip address due to how close he is to his neighbor internet. anyway go ahead a check my ip address also check the ip for both tonyivey and maxinne, i bet he is a student at another school in carribean. he is lying and you are telling me that i am some guy that i never met or know (rl). all i am saying is this guy (tonyivey) is using this forum to make a point by lying and other means.

Ije
09-21-2007, 07:01 PM
this is to inform that TonyIvey and Maxinne are not telling the truth. Anthonyivy got on the forum and wrote that he told his friend about vmd and his girlfriend must join after that. well this can't be true because maxinne join over a month before tonyivey did. so i think tonyivey is lying again. this forum has become a circus compare to what it use to be. please everyone lets get back to what is important to all the readers. i join to inform that this forum has become a joke because the mod and others are ignoring the fact this guy has been lying his entire time he been posting. come on lets be fair and get this off the forum.


i have no connection with any carribean medical school. i attend medical school in usa. i have a good friend who is attending sgu. anyway go ahead and check for a mulitple account. this is my only account and its sad that you are automatically assume that i have multiple account. all i was trying to do was tell you guys that this guy is making you guys look like a fool making you believe he is this sincere guy who has this problem with his ip address due to how close he is to his neighbor internet. anyway go ahead a check my ip address also check the ip for both tonyivey and maxinne, i bet he is a student at another school in carribean. he is lying and you are telling me that i am some guy that i never met or know (rl). all i am saying is this guy (tonyivey) is using this forum to make a point by lying and other means.

Victor, not necassarily. Y'see I do know maxinne, she and I have compared notes while trying to choose a suitable school to attend and with so many choices and things to consider it is easier to have someone to bounce off ideas with occasionally, someone you have things in common with, we were considering the same schools at some point. We never considered nor applied to this school and anyone who did not have anything to do with the school would not have any knowledge of what Tony is explaining.

You forget that a whole lot of students browse ValueMD before joining, often browsing for months or joining without participating for a while. And sometimes all it takes is to read a particular point of view and you decide you have to chip in your own .02cents.

Maxinne and I have been in touch for a minute and I remember chatting about a few points, and she said though she wanted to say something to someone, she did not want to get involved. So when I saw her here, we chatted about why she finally joined the madness, and yes her boyfriend told her about a jerry springer forum she should check out. Whether or not he knew she was already a member or not or if she told him she was already a member.

Yeah we chatted about her comments and the general entertainment factor of the different episodes of this place. I was the one who told her her account was banned and quite frankly I don't think that should be enough to phase anyone.

In any case, from my observations most of what Tony has said is very much in line with what most other people here are saying about the school. Do you have any idea the number of people keeping up with what is going on here, most of them are not even members, just guests who have not signed up yet or signed up but not participating, just sharing messages. Imagine if everyone stopped by to tell what they knew of the school. Some prefer to tell others about the danger of this school, offline.

I bolded that part b/c for some of us who have been frequent visitors, for the drama, I think I can say I have heard that from another person that you just happen to appear to be like.

Carry on......

victor2md
09-21-2007, 07:24 PM
well if i am wrong then i am sorry, but i think tonyivey then make a mistake on one of his post. stating that he told maxinne's boyfriend then her boyfriend to her then she joined vmd. well if i misunderstood his post i am sorry.

alabi
09-21-2007, 08:16 PM
Victor, not necassarily. Y'see I do know maxinne, she and I have compared notes while trying to choose a suitable school to attend and with so many choices and things to consider it is easier to have someone to bounce off ideas with occasionally, someone you have things in common with, we were considering the same schools at some point. We never considered nor applied to this school and anyone who did not have anything to do with the school would not have any knowledge of what Tony is explaining.

You forget that a whole lot of students browse ValueMD before joining, often browsing for months or joining without participating for a while. And sometimes all it takes is to read a particular point of view and you decide you have to chip in your own .02cents.

Maxinne and I have been in touch for a minute and I remember chatting about a few points, and she said though she wanted to say something to someone, she did not want to get involved. So when I saw her here, we chatted about why she finally joined the madness, and yes her boyfriend told her about a jerry springer forum she should check out. Whether or not he knew she was already a member or not or if she told him she was already a member.

Yeah we chatted about her comments and the general entertainment factor of the different episodes of this place. I was the one who told her her account was banned and quite frankly I don't think that should be enough to phase anyone.

In any case, from my observations most of what Tony has said is very much in line with what most other people here are saying about the school. Do you have any idea the number of people keeping up with what is going on here, most of them are not even members, just guests who have not signed up yet or signed up but not participating, just sharing messages. Imagine if everyone stopped by to tell what they knew of the school. Some prefer to tell others about the danger of this school, offline.

I bolded that part b/c for some of us who have been frequent visitors, for the drama, I think I can say I have heard that from another person that you just happen to appear to be like.

Carry on......
there must be something wrong with your banning criteria because these are all separate people but obviously they have been marked for a reason to be banned. There are several MSN Groups that a lot of people belong to that this institution is a daily topic and I can recognize some people who have been banned here who are most definitely separate individuals but have been marked as multiple accounts.

RST
09-21-2007, 10:30 PM
A lot of people jumping to conclusions about the true identities of people. Having access here is really pointless, it only resorts to heavy banter. What counts is the real movement against schools like this that is already in motion. Do not despair everyone.

evilsax
10-01-2007, 03:55 AM
You're right about that Tony, but you know what's interesting? ***** was claiming before that no caribbean schools are accredited but now the when you do a google search for cmu the front blurb for the site claims they are.

jameslynton
10-05-2007, 09:19 AM
there must be something wrong with your banning criteria because these are all separate people but obviously they have been marked for a reason to be banned. There are several MSN Groups that a lot of people belong to that this institution is a daily topic and I can recognize some people who have been banned here who are most definitely separate individuals but have been marked as multiple accounts.Actually, people can spoof other posters names on other forums and use them on VMD. So unless a person has bunches of post > 500 that are generally the same over time. They are most likely a trusted poster. Normally troll posters or posters with an agenda give themselves away pretty quickly. Well so it goes!