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MDbonaire07
08-10-2007, 07:42 PM
The charter was signed by the Governor of Curacao today. I just talked to the Administration and they informed my about it. I also called the Government of Curacao and they confirmed the CMU charter was issued today. They said they would provide the original to the school Monday morning. If some agents still don’t believe than wait till Monday and call the Office of the Governor.
It seems like everyone there is celebrating. The SGA organized a party tonight.
SO NOW WHAT DO ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO BASHED CMU HAVE TO SAY?
Mrs. Rokshana: "I'll bet you a shiny EC that they don't get it!!!"
Where is my shiny EC now?
Congratulations again and keep up the good work!!!!!
IMG SURVIVOR
08-10-2007, 07:52 PM
I do not understand, today was the day to appear in IMED listing right?
So that means that in theory they already had what they got today, or I'm missing something here?
rokshana
08-10-2007, 07:53 PM
The charter was signed by the Governor of Curacao today. I just talked to the Administration and they informed my about it. I also called the Government of Curacao and they confirmed the CMU charter was issued today. They said they would provide the original to the school Monday morning. If some agents still don’t believe than wait till Monday and call the Office of the Governor.
It seems like everyone there is celebrating. The SGA organized a party tonight.
SO NOW WHAT DO ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO BASHED CMU HAVE TO SAY?
Mrs. Rokshana: "I'll bet you a shiny EC that they don't get it!!!"
Where is my shiny EC now?
Congratulations again and keep up the good work!!!!!
well let's see a copy of it- scan one in- THEN i'll believe it!!
and as far as the shiny EC- well THAT is for IMED listing...and as of a minute ago i saw...maybe....NUTHIN?????!!!!! I'll give it til tomorrow- but if there is nothing then...then i believe it is YOU who will be owing me an EC!!
teratos
08-10-2007, 07:54 PM
The charter was signed by the Governor of Curacao today. I just talked to the Administration and they informed my about it. I also called the Government of Curacao and they confirmed the CMU charter was issued today. They said they would provide the original to the school Monday morning. If some agents still don’t believe than wait till Monday and call the Office of the Governor.
It seems like everyone there is celebrating. The SGA organized a party tonight.
SO NOW WHAT DO ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO BASHED CMU HAVE TO SAY?
Mrs. Rokshana: "I'll bet you a shiny EC that they don't get it!!!"
Where is my shiny EC now?
Congratulations again and keep up the good work!!!!!
I say that since the charter was signed today, your course work up until this point will not count. This has been an issue in the past, and it is the way the ECFMG, and state licensing boards look at such issues. Now what about WHO/IMED? I don't expect that to happen overnight, but the fact that IMED listing was promised today, and we get the charter signed is somewhat disconcerting to me. The school started classes prematurely. Please fill me in if there is something I'm missing. G
stateofequilibrium
08-10-2007, 07:54 PM
If Rokshana is an agent, what benefit would SGU get from slamming CMU? Despite having all the legal reasons to for CMU for stealing their wesbite?
Secondly, hoorah. I am glad, this is a good thing for the incoming students.
Thirdly, boo. How does this affect current students finishing this semester if they were taking classes without a charter or who/imed recognition?
Fourth, if they just got their charter today, when is WHO/IMED coming around?
Fifth, by just getting a charter, does that prove anything about the quality and previous statements about their credibility as compared to what they advertise on their website to what they currently or at the time possess?
IMG SURVIVOR
08-10-2007, 07:57 PM
I say that since the charter was signed today, your course work up until this point will not count. This has been an issue in the past, and it is the way the ECFMG, and state licensing boards look at such issues. Now what about WHO/IMED? I don't expect that to happen overnight, but the fact that IMED listing was promised today, and we get the charter signed is somewhat disconcerting to me. The school started classes prematurely. Please fill me in if there is something I'm missing. G
It's like I promise ECFMG certification today, and now I come to celebrate because I pass step1:shock:
rlewkowski
08-10-2007, 08:01 PM
There was no promise of IMED/WHO listing for today. If Im wrong please provide a post that shows this promise.
Second, the IMED/WHO listing is now just a matter of weeks since the most important document /charter/ was signed today and those 2 organization have to list CMU among other caribbean medical schools.
Our IT department prepares the update of the website to show the copy of CMU's charter.
stateofequilibrium
08-10-2007, 08:03 PM
There was no promise of IMED/WHO listing for today. If Im wrong please provide a post that shows this promise.
Second, the IMED/WHO listing is now just a matter of weeks since the most important document /charter/ was signed today and those 2 organization have to list CMU among other caribbean medical schools.
Our IT department prepares the update of the website to show the copy of CMU's charter.
Oh good, then if it's going to take weeks to get IMED/WHO, can you tell your IT people to change the website to reflect that you are EXPECTING the listing, and do not currently possess it? Thanks.
MDbonaire07
08-10-2007, 08:07 PM
Oh good, then if it's going to take weeks to get IMED/WHO, can you tell your IT people to change the website to reflect that you are EXPECTING the listing, and do not currently possess it? Thanks.
Its been done already.
DrShikima
08-10-2007, 08:10 PM
Its been done already.
What took so long to repair the misinformation which people have continuously called into question?
stateofequilibrium
08-10-2007, 08:12 PM
By the way:
From about two months ago -
http://www.valuemd.com/caribbean-medical-university-cmu/136293-cmu-sga-president-3.html#post615941
"There is no IMED recognition, WHO and FAIMER is just a matter of weeks. They have to finish merging their databases."
I find that funny, that you're saying that they have to finish merging their databases, meaning that everything was already finished and settled two months ago for listing.
http://www.valuemd.com/caribbean-medical-university-cmu/136326-caribbean-medical-university-2.html#post617552 (http://www.valuemd.com/136326-caribbean-medical-university-2.html#post617552)
"THE DATE WHEN A SCHOOL WAS ESTABLISHED MATTERS and CMU WAS ESTABLISHED IN MARCH 20007!!!!!"
But that charter was just signed today?
http://www.valuemd.com/caribbean-medical-university-cmu/137573-i-need-some-information-admin.html#post623301 (http://www.valuemd.com/137573-i-need-some-information-admin.html#post623301)
"CMU/CIU has all required documents to operate the university on the island of Curaca, its just a matter of time for WHO and IMED to receive the information about the university. You may contact the Ministry of Education of Netherland Antilles to inquire about CMU establishment but the WHO and IMED listing will be done once they two finish combining their databases.
On our website you may also find the CMU foundation registration documents, that is recognized by the Government of Netherlands Antilles. If you have any other questions please dont hesitate to contact our offices."
From two months ago you said you have everything, and all the documents are listed, etc etc. But the charter was just signed today? And now you're saying it will be weeks more for WHO/IMED because of that? So then what was all that you said?
http://www.valuemd.com/caribbean-medical-university-cmu/140477-letter-new-sga-president-fall-2007-a.html#post647238 (http://www.valuemd.com/140477-letter-new-sga-president-fall-2007-a.html#post647238)
"You need to stop and wait till next Friday to see documents regarding IMED listing."
You're right, you didn't explicitly say anything that it will be the IMED that will appear today. Though at least it clears it up.
http://www.valuemd.com/caribbean-medical-university-cmu/140515-rlewkowski-who-imed-2.html#post647582 (http://www.valuemd.com/140515-rlewkowski-who-imed-2.html#post647582)
"Because CMU is fully legit school and eligible for listing in WHO and IMED as any other Caribbean medical school. However there was a delay in processing our application, which was submitted on March 15th. The delay occurred due to circumstances that were not under our control. As I stated in the previous posts, the situation has been clarified now and within one week we'll post official documents confirming our listing with those two agencies."
Is this because you DIDN'T HAVE A CHARTER? And I think this is where you promised CONFIRMATION of your listing "WITH THOSE TWO AGENCIES"
teratos
08-10-2007, 08:13 PM
There was no promise of IMED/WHO listing for today. If Im wrong please provide a post that shows this promise.
Second, the IMED/WHO listing is now just a matter of weeks since the most important document /charter/ was signed today and those 2 organization have to list CMU among other caribbean medical schools.
Our IT department prepares the update of the website to show the copy of CMU's charter.
I am probably mistaken about the IMED. In the past, date of Charter has been important to both the ECFMG, and state licensing boards. ANy coursework done prior to the date of charter hasn't counted. St. Christopher's is an example of that. IMED is not so important, now that you have a charter, since they do nothing to investigate/accredit schools, they simply list schools with a valid charter. So, I think that one is in the bank. Is the charter effective some date other than today? Congrats on getting the charter. I am still concerned about the students that have already started, and their potential problems sitting for the boards and getting licensed because of the date of matriculation/date of charter discrepancy.
Please know I have no vested interest in any school. I don't get paid by any school. I am interested in seeing that people who are following the same path I followed get the opportunities they expect when they sign on the dotted line. G
stateofequilibrium
08-10-2007, 08:14 PM
Its been done already.
They changed one part of it, good. But that requires the average student to carefully look at a seperate page. Not the main page About CMU where it still proudly proclaims it is in posession of it.
MDbonaire07
08-10-2007, 08:15 PM
well let's see a copy of it- scan one in- THEN i'll believe it!!
and as far as the shiny EC- well THAT is for IMED listing...and as of a minute ago i saw...maybe....NUTHIN?????!!!!! I'll give it til tomorrow- but if there is nothing then...then i believe it is YOU who will be owing me an EC!!
Why don’t you just admit false promises, Mrs. Rokshana. Everyone was waiting for the charter and now you are trying to change your promise. That just reveals your credibility.
It looks like your words are worth NUTHIN!!!!
IMG SURVIVOR
08-10-2007, 08:18 PM
What took so long to repair the misinformation which people have continuously called into question?
Maybe they have dial up
teratos
08-10-2007, 08:18 PM
Why don’t you just admit false promises, Mrs. Rokshana. Everyone was waiting for the charter and now you are trying to change your promise. That just reveals your credibility.
It looks like your words are worth NUTHIN!!!!
Actually, everyone assumed you had the charter since the school was open and running. If you read Roks posts, you will see that she specifically refers to IMED listings. You guys better call ECFMG and make sure you don't have to re-take your semester. I have a sneaking suspicion there may be an issue if anyone looks at this closely...and they do look at things closely. G
stateofequilibrium
08-10-2007, 08:20 PM
Why don’t you just admit false promises, Mrs. Rokshana. Everyone was waiting for the charter and now you are trying to change your promise. That just reveals your credibility.
It looks like your words are worth NUTHIN!!!!
<COUGH> This is from CMU's admin's own words btw, "As I stated in the previous posts, the situation has been clarified now and within one week we'll post official documents confirming our listing with those two agencies.""
rlewkowski
08-10-2007, 08:21 PM
No student would be required to retake any classes simply because we operate under the affiliation with Caribbean International University, that obtained its charter in 2001.
stateofequilibrium
08-10-2007, 08:22 PM
No student would be required to retake any classes simply because we operate under the affiliation with Caribbean Medical University, which obtained a charter in 2001.
Didn't CMU just receive it today?
teratos
08-10-2007, 08:24 PM
No student would be required to retake any classes simply because we operate under the affiliation with Caribbean Medical University, which obtained a charter in 2001.
OK, so why did you get a charter today? Have there been any examples of other schools operating under a charter from someplace else? This is like law....well, not really LIKE since it IS a legal discussion. There needs to be precedent. If there is none, then what happens is simply a matter of conjecture until the waters are tested. I would not want to be one of the guinea pigs. G
IMG SURVIVOR
08-10-2007, 08:31 PM
There was no promise of IMED/WHO listing for today. If Im wrong please provide a post that shows this promise.
Second, the IMED/WHO listing is now just a matter of weeks since the most important document /charter/ was signed today and those 2 organization have to list CMU among other caribbean medical schools.
Our IT department prepares the update of the website to show the copy of CMU's charter.
So what you have to say about this?
are you going to respond to SOE after he gave you the posts?
By the way:
From about two months ago -
http://www.valuemd.com/caribbean-med...tml#post615941 (http://www.valuemd.com/caribbean-medical-university-cmu/136293-cmu-sga-president-3.html#post615941)
"There is no IMED recognition, WHO and FAIMER is just a matter of weeks. They have to finish merging their databases."
I find that funny, that you're saying that they have to finish merging their databases, meaning that everything was already finished and settled two months ago for listing.
http://www.valuemd.com/caribbean-medical-university-cmu/136326-caribbean-medical-university-2.html#post617552 (http://www.valuemd.com/136326-caribbean-medical-university-2.html#post617552)
"THE DATE WHEN A SCHOOL WAS ESTABLISHED MATTERS and CMU WAS ESTABLISHED IN MARCH 20007!!!!!"
But that charter was just signed today?
http://www.valuemd.com/caribbean-medical-university-cmu/137573-i-need-some-information-admin.html#post623301 (http://www.valuemd.com/137573-i-need-some-information-admin.html#post623301)
"CMU/CIU has all required documents to operate the university on the island of Curaca, its just a matter of time for WHO and IMED to receive the information about the university. You may contact the Ministry of Education of Netherland Antilles to inquire about CMU establishment but the WHO and IMED listing will be done once they two finish combining their databases.
On our website you may also find the CMU foundation registration documents, that is recognized by the Government of Netherlands Antilles. If you have any other questions please dont hesitate to contact our offices."
From two months ago you said you have everything, and all the documents are listed, etc etc. But the charter was just signed today? And now you're saying it will be weeks more for WHO/IMED because of that? So then what was all that you said?
http://www.valuemd.com/caribbean-medical-university-cmu/140477-letter-new-sga-president-fall-2007-a.html#post647238 (http://www.valuemd.com/140477-letter-new-sga-president-fall-2007-a.html#post647238)
"You need to stop and wait till next Friday to see documents regarding IMED listing."
You're right, you didn't explicitly say anything that it will be the IMED that will appear today. Though at least it clears it up.
http://www.valuemd.com/caribbean-medical-university-cmu/140515-rlewkowski-who-imed-2.html#post647582 (http://www.valuemd.com/140515-rlewkowski-who-imed-2.html#post647582)
"Because CMU is fully legit school and eligible for listing in WHO and IMED as any other Caribbean medical school. However there was a delay in processing our application, which was submitted on March 15th. The delay occurred due to circumstances that were not under our control. As I stated in the previous posts, the situation has been clarified now and within one week we'll post official documents confirming our listing with those two agencies."
Is this because you DIDN'T HAVE A CHARTER? And I think this is where you promised CONFIRMATION of your listing "WITH THOSE TWO AGENCIES"
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DOCplucinski
08-10-2007, 08:32 PM
Its been done already.
no it has not been done.
stateofequilibrium
08-10-2007, 08:34 PM
no it has not been done.
It's been pseudo-done. You have to dig deeper where in the barely readable light blue on white background it will tell you it's still in the process.
IMG SURVIVOR
08-10-2007, 08:36 PM
In homer simpson voice= OMG OMG OMG
DOCplucinski
08-10-2007, 08:39 PM
It's been pseudo-done. You have to dig deeper where in the barely readable light blue on white background it will tell you it's still in the process.
that's fine, then take it off of this page. all any potential student has to do is go to the "About CMU" page and look - according to that, they have IMED/WHO. someone shouldn't have to search around a website to find one page saying "ohh look, we do have it!" and another page saying "ohh well, yeah we kinda don't have it".
teratos
08-10-2007, 08:41 PM
the only thing I can be sure of in this discussion is the docP uses Windows Vista. Sad, just sad.
IMG SURVIVOR
08-10-2007, 08:41 PM
So how are they preparing students for USMLE?
Will they be able to take the USMLE?
And why they have USMLE if no students have taken the test yet and they dont have IMED?
Hellooo anybody there?
stateofequilibrium
08-10-2007, 08:42 PM
that's fine, then take it off of this page. all any potential student has to do is go to the "About CMU" page and look - according to that, they have IMED/WHO. someone shouldn't have to search around a website to find one page saying "ohh look, we do have it!" and another page saying "ohh well, yeah we kinda don't have it".
It's a good idea. To the naive student who believes everything they read, they'll be satisfied with just that page. And in case anyone now brings some kind of legal trouble (people who signed up before can probably show archived material where it does not have this), they can say, "But look, we did mention it here."
DOCplucinski
08-10-2007, 08:43 PM
the only thing I can be sure of in this discussion is the docP uses Windows Vista. Sad, just sad.
of course, never said i didn't! i dual-boot, but i'm not on ubuntu right now, i can't get my bluetooth mouse right so i switch back and forth is my carpel tunnel kicks in.
No student would be required to retake any classes simply because we operate under the affiliation with Caribbean International University, that obtained its charter in 2001.
I think the flaw here is that CIU is not qualified to teach MD level courses. If they were why would you even bother with getting the charter at all? And why isnt CIU listed with IMED/WHO?
Quite frankly, I dont think there were too many students attending the MD program this semester. How many were there left? 3?
All CMU has to do is allow the current students to 'repeat' the courses again in September. This way their transcript will show courses taken when the school has its charter. Ah, there are ways around it. I'll bet though any licensing officials monitoring this forum will note this, maybe?
(The bet is for 1 cent ZWD.)
('repeat' could be just faking it in some way)
IMG SURVIVOR
08-10-2007, 08:46 PM
So how many students from CMU know about all this or have read have of this forum, besides the 3 that posts regularly?
stateofequilibrium
08-10-2007, 08:48 PM
Well, there's the one who made all the music videos. One of his posts on the front page says some very interesting things about CMU
dj $iva melbourne/ los angeles: Mystery Surrounds C.M.U.! (http://djsiva.blogspot.com/2007/08/mystery-surrounds-cmu.html#links)
DOCplucinski
08-10-2007, 08:49 PM
the only thing I can be sure of in this discussion is the docP uses Windows Vista. Sad, just sad.
i use IE on vista too, it's prettier.
i'll switch back over if you want me to but my medial n isn't going to agree with me
IMG SURVIVOR
08-10-2007, 08:51 PM
yea what ever happend to that you tube stuff, what is it call _____________?
MDbonaire07
08-10-2007, 08:53 PM
Well, there's the one who made all the music videos. One of his posts on the front page says some very interesting things about CMU
dj $iva melbourne/ los angeles: Mystery Surrounds C.M.U.! (http://djsiva.blogspot.com/2007/08/mystery-surrounds-cmu.html#links)
Thats another very interensting dj $iva melbourne/ los angeles (http://djsiva.blogspot.com/)
DrShikima
08-10-2007, 10:16 PM
The quiet responses who their guilt. No-one vehemently denying any of the comments made on here.
stateofequilibrium
08-10-2007, 10:19 PM
The quiet responses who their guilt. No-one vehemently denying any of the comments made on here.
Meh, what's the point really. Those who do a little leg work will make their own informed decision. Those that don't, well, buyer beware.
teratos
08-10-2007, 10:22 PM
i use IE on vista too, it's prettier.
i'll switch back over if you want me to but my medial n isn't going to agree with me
No, I meant it was sad that was the only thing i can be sure of....
I use IE on vista, too.......
stateofequilibrium
08-10-2007, 10:31 PM
No, I meant it was sad that was the only thing i can be sure of....
I use IE on vista, too.......
so is Vista worth the upgrade?
IMG SURVIVOR
08-10-2007, 10:39 PM
so is Vista worth the upgrade?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I do not know about pc
emt036
08-10-2007, 11:48 PM
There was no promise of IMED/WHO listing for today. If Im wrong please provide a post that shows this promise.
Gladly. http://www.valuemd.com/caribbean-medical-university-cmu/140477-letter-new-sga-president-fall-2007-a.html#post647238
stateofequilibrium
08-10-2007, 11:54 PM
Gladly. http://www.valuemd.com/caribbean-medical-university-cmu/140477-letter-new-sga-president-fall-2007-a.html#post647238
this one is better
"Because CMU is fully legit school and eligible for listing in WHO and IMED as any other Caribbean medical school. However there was a delay in processing our application, which was submitted on March 15th. The delay occurred due to circumstances that were not under our control. As I stated in the previous posts, the situation has been clarified now and within one week we'll post official documents confirming our listing with those two agencies."
emt036
08-11-2007, 12:01 AM
It's been pseudo-done. You have to dig deeper where in the barely readable light blue on white background it will tell you it's still in the process.
But on the accreditations page, it still states, "CMU has successfully addressed all requirements of ECFMG and therefore obtained permission for its students to sit for the United States Medical Licensing Examination tests," which is a blatant lie.
Also quite funny - when you click on the link (http://www.cmumed.org/about/charter.htm) to the school's charter, it just comes up with a blank page...
stateofequilibrium
08-11-2007, 12:08 AM
But on the accreditations page, it still states, "CMU has successfully addressed all requirements of ECFMG and therefore obtained permission for its students to sit for the United States Medical Licensing Examination tests," which is a blatant lie.
Also quite funny - when you click on the link (http://www.cmumed.org/about/charter.htm) to the school's charter, it just comes up with a blank page...
You're right. On both accounts. I tried zooming in at 250% on the theory it might be microscopically small, no such luck.
rokshana
08-11-2007, 12:13 AM
Why don’t you just admit false promises, Mrs. Rokshana. Everyone was waiting for the charter and now you are trying to change your promise. That just reveals your credibility.
It looks like your words are worth NUTHIN!!!!
what false promises? I stand by everything i have said about this so called school- it may have a charter- but that blank piece of paper on CMU's own website shows, what? its written in invisible ink? I need special decoder glasses? PLEASE show me the charter!!
and now RL is sayin- what IMED listing? Where IMED listing? I didn't say nuthin about no IMED lisiting?!! and i don't have to go search for the threads where he has promised about IMED listing- SOE and others have done quite a nice job.
I feel bad for those students who are still there- because unfortunately i think you are going to be in the same predicament as those poor st chris students one day, but they, bless there hearts, didn't have this much info- those of you who are NOW looking into this school, hear all this, and STILL go here- its your own darn fault.
And Ultron- that open house was probably cancelled for a reason- they KNEW they would have to face questions about this and didn't wanna face up to it.
DOCplucinski
08-11-2007, 01:43 AM
so is Vista worth the upgrade?
that's debatable...if you're a gamer, i'd say no. wait...am i off topic? crap
ind3r
08-11-2007, 04:10 AM
I really don't know if this has been brought up:
CMU | Caribbean Medical University - Life @ CMU - Upon Acceptance (http://www.cmumed.org/lifeatcmu/acceptance.htm)
Accepted Students - St. George’s University - Caribbean Medical & Veterinary School (http://www.sgu.edu/website/sguwebsite.nsf/accepted-students/index.html)
The content within the sub-headings has also been copied word for word =/
THe funniest stuff is the rip off from teh SGU checklist for things to bring. e.g.
"These items have been recommended by former students" (I thought this i was a new school w/ no graduates) clearly your skilled it team forgot to edit a minor detail.
CMU | Caribbean Medical University - Life @ CMU - Upon Acceptance - Prior to Departure (http://www.cmumed.org/lifeatcmu/acceptance/departure.htm)
Accepted Students - St. George’s University - Caribbean Medical & Veterinary School (http://www.sgu.edu/website/sguwebsite.nsf/accepted-students/prior-arrival2.html)
I also love your disclaimer policy:
CMU | Caribbean Medical University - Disclaimer (http://www.cmumed.org/disclaimer.htm)
O wait once again... quite similar to, who woulda guessed, SGU!:
Copyright - St. George’s University - Caribbean Medical & Veterinary School (http://www.sgu.edu/website/sguwebsite.nsf/copyright.html)
I think that this is a serious legal issue and clearly questions the legitmacy of your institution
teratos
08-11-2007, 07:06 AM
So, unfortunately, all the statments made were immortalized in cyberspace. It seems there has been quite a bit of dishonesty, and I think that is tough to deny/refute. This is a tough crowd here. One thing I am glad of....when people start internet searches of Caribbean schools, they are often brought here. G
ind3r
08-11-2007, 07:41 AM
yup that's what happened w/ me. Thank god, I was about to make the mistake of my life by going to xavier just b/c my parents were seemingly brainwashed by teh promises of the spokesperson.
stateofequilibrium
08-11-2007, 09:19 AM
So, unfortunately, all the statments made were immortalized in cyberspace. It seems there has been quite a bit of dishonesty, and I think that is tough to deny/refute. This is a tough crowd here. One thing I am glad of....when people start internet searches of Caribbean schools, they are often brought here. G
You brought up a good point Teratos: transperancy. In today's information age with access to all sorts of information no more than a few keystrokes away, for almost any global enterprise such as an international medical school to succeed, REQUIRES a level of transperancy and dare I say, honesty.
Maybe in the old days when SGU, Ross, and AUC started up they could feasibly get away with a lot of false promises and advertisements if they wanted to. There would be very few who would take the time to dial up, stay on hold, and converse with various officials and agencies, let alone phone up and meet with other prospective students from all over the globe to share the information with. Today however, information is shared rapidly, and attempts at double-talk, double-backs, and deceit are readily spotted and pounced upon.
It is much better to maintain open honesty in the face of how easy it is to get the truth to anyone that is willing to do half a minute's worth of searching. People are willing to give the benefit of time for a new school, that it may be a viable alternative for SOME, and that if handled right could grow into a good school. Look at AUA, many looked at it with suspicion at first, but it's turning out to be a real contender. Unfortunately, CMU has chosen a less than reputable track. I hope this changes for the sake of your students.
If any of what's been happening happened in a US Medical school, it would have definitely ended up in the media. The unfortunate thing, for the Caribbean, it's business as usual.
rokshana
08-11-2007, 12:11 PM
I also love your disclaimer policy:
CMU | Caribbean Medical University - Disclaimer (http://www.cmumed.org/disclaimer.htm)
O wait once again... quite similar to, who woulda guessed, SGU!:
Copyright - St. George’s University - Caribbean Medical & Veterinary School (http://www.sgu.edu/website/sguwebsite.nsf/copyright.html)
I think that this is a serious legal issue and clearly questions the legitmacy of your institution
OMG!! the disclaimer is hilarious, because in the 1st line its says "...the University of Utah websites...." I kid you not UNIVERSITY OF UTAH!!!! they complete stole it from the Utah website and didn't even bother to take it out!!!!
finishingfifth
08-11-2007, 12:27 PM
Come on Mr. L, dont u feel ashamed to work for this kind of place. They steal websites from Utah, SGU, wherever. You are forced to be deceptive about IMED. There is charter from CIU, but we got another one. Its all a bunch of lies so money can be extorted from those who arent well versed in this stuff. If I worked for CMU I would have trouble living with myself.
teratos
08-11-2007, 12:44 PM
OMG!! the disclaimer is hilarious, because in the 1st line its says "...the University of Utah websites...." I kid you not UNIVERSITY OF UTAH!!!! they complete stole it from the Utah website and didn't even bother to take it out!!!!
Holy cow. The way I read that is "don't trust anything you read on this website" That just makes me shake my head in disbelief. :confused:
stateofequilibrium
08-11-2007, 12:48 PM
this is just pathetic
msu_theta
08-11-2007, 12:52 PM
this is just patheticNo, this is "CMU"
stateofequilibrium
08-11-2007, 12:53 PM
No, this is "CMU"
THIS IS SPARTA!!!
DrShikima
08-11-2007, 01:05 PM
Watch out for the rochambo.
Srsly pathetic guys.
ind3r
08-11-2007, 08:33 PM
wow they were very quick to change the content of the disclaimer. I guess Mr. L saw my post. Too bad there isn't like a turnitin.com for contents on websites Unless ofcouse you copy and paste all the content and treat it as a humougous inconsistent blurb. Hmm I might actually try that and see what turnitin comes up w/.
rokshana
08-11-2007, 08:52 PM
wow they were very quick to change the content of the disclaimer. I guess Mr. L saw my post. Too bad there isn't like a turnitin.com for contents on websites Unless ofcouse you copy and paste all the content and treat it as a humougous inconsistent blurb. Hmm I might actually try that and see what turnitin comes up w/.
never fear- i have a screen shot of it with the University of Utah still there- but it IS amazing they can change that so quickly...yet there clains of HAVING IMED/FAIMER/WHO listing is so slooooow in changing...
stephew
08-11-2007, 08:56 PM
thread closed pending investigation into user account.
stephew
08-11-2007, 08:58 PM
well said soe. You brought up a good point Teratos: transperancy. .
stephew
08-11-2007, 09:26 PM
thread closed pending investigation into questionable user activity.
stephew
08-14-2007, 02:24 PM
issue resolved.
DrShikima
08-14-2007, 02:27 PM
Is that your way of saying the threat level is low?
stateofequilibrium
08-14-2007, 02:34 PM
Is that your way of saying the threat level is low?
We are on Threat Level Orange. Fraudulent behavior imminent.
DrShikima
08-14-2007, 03:00 PM
We are on Threat Level Orange. Fraudulent behavior imminent.
Yeah! Who let you be a mod?!
DOCplucinski
08-14-2007, 03:15 PM
Yeah! Who let you be a mod?!
he was appointed mod by the jedi high counsel
IMG SURVIVOR
08-14-2007, 04:11 PM
he was appointed mod by the jedi high counsel
And I was there when the names of pulasky and AOE were brought to the mighty counsel;)
DrShikima
08-15-2007, 12:26 AM
Bah! I smell an ECFMG conspiracy.
stephew
08-15-2007, 02:07 PM
stay on topic please.
rokshana
08-15-2007, 03:16 PM
there's a topic?
emt036
08-15-2007, 03:22 PM
there's a topic?
I guess we need to get back to congratulating CMU on all their accomplishments (the topic of the thread). :roll:
DrShikima
08-15-2007, 07:35 PM
stay on topic please.
You realize that non-CMU'ers are posting on here, right? Where are the other cheerleaders? Did SMU snatch them up for their basketball cheer squad?
Well, we can congratulate CMU for having CS Student-Preceptor Ratio of 0.03 - 1. What does that work out to in actual live whole bodies? 3 students to 100 perceptors? Does this mean they have 3 clinical students? Or, 9 students since they have 327 sites? I dont recall any CMU person bragging about that.
* "Real time data"?? from CMU | Caribbean Medical University - About CMU (http://www.cmumed.org/about/index.htm)
stateofequilibrium
08-16-2007, 08:35 AM
Anyone else notice that in their "charter," the first page the letter of intent: It is stamped 4/07/07 but the letter is dated June 07? Not to mention that it says it will start offering undergraduate coursework in MAY?
diogenes
08-16-2007, 08:44 AM
Yes, I saw that. Moderately interesting that Undergraduate was in bold, Was the issue of a med. school so vexatious and problematic that he had to make it doubly clear he wasn't talking about M.D. degrees?
Regarding the dates, I think this reflects the difference between American and European date format. So the letter was written on "June 30th" and date stamped by a receiving govt. official on 4th July (or July 4th:)).
stateofequilibrium
08-16-2007, 08:58 AM
Yes, I saw that. Moderately interesting that Undergraduate was in bold, Was the issue of a med. school so vexatious and problematic that he had to make it doubly clear he wasn't talking about M.D. degrees?
Regarding the dates, I think this reflects the difference between American and European date format. So the letter was written on "June 30th" and date stamped by a receiving govt. official on 4th July (or July 4th:)).
Oh, you're right. Totally forgot about the European vs US date thing :( Either way though, June and May don't add up still
diogenes
08-16-2007, 09:08 AM
Yes it seems to be yet another example of RL's penchant for working retrospectively; possibly in a great panic too!
MDXRS22
08-16-2007, 09:23 AM
This is really a mess! Did they forget that there are some smart people out there, and they will take their time to read every single line and detail. I just read the posted documents, to tell the truth, it's like they were copied from and older document, and they did not even care to rectify the dates, from 2007, 2001 and beyond. This is silly and sillier:)
stephew
08-16-2007, 10:23 AM
smart or at least very obsessive. which isnt a bad trait in a doc.
MDXRS22
08-16-2007, 10:31 AM
Right on the money:):):) we are really obsessed with details:)
stephew
08-16-2007, 10:51 AM
that's why military folk oftem make excellent doctors. They just do it and get it done right as per training.
stateofequilibrium
08-16-2007, 01:01 PM
that's why military folk oftem make excellent doctors. They just do it and get it done right as per training.
Just like a certain "medical school" that is trying to open up in Southern California? :D:D:D:D
* why is that name of that school censored?
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