Is It Possible To Spend 5 years in a Hungarian Medical School?

[african_child]

hey guys,
i need your help. i've been admitted into the medical schools at pecs (hungary). i am aware that hungary has only six-year medical programs. however, because i already have a degree in pharmacy, i wanted to know if it is possible for me to finish the medical school (under normal circumstances, that is) in five years on the basis of my Bsc.
i called the school and made some enquiry. i was told of certain "exemptions" as regards courses that i have already done. however, i would prefer to know from current students in hungary if such things do exist. has anyone done it before? (that is finishing in 5 years).
i was on the view that the school would admit me into their 2nd year and then allow me register those 1st year courses that i have not yet done (which i know are very few). but my acceptance letter says i'm admitted into the 1st semester of the six-year medical program.
any help would be appreciated.
hope to hear from someone soon.
thanks .

[Zut Alors!]

hey guys,
i need your help. i've been admitted into the medical schools at pecs (hungary). i am aware that hungary has only six-year medical programs. however, because i already have a degree in pharmacy, i wanted to know if it is possible for me to finish the medical school (under normal circumstances, that is) in five years on the basis of my Bsc.
i called the school and made some enquiry. i was told of certain "exemptions" as regards courses that i have already done. however, i would prefer to know from current students in hungary if such things do exist. has anyone done it before? (that is finishing in 5 years).
i was on the view that the school would admit me into their 2nd year and then allow me register those 1st year courses that i have not yet done (which i know are very few). but my acceptance letter says i'm admitted into the 1st semester of the six-year medical program.
any help would be appreciated.
hope to hear from someone soon.
thanks .

What country do you want to practice in? If you want to come to the US afterwards, you will not be able to get licensed in many states. Advanced standing in medical school via undergrad courses is not acceptable. Therefore, if you plan on Hungary, you have to brave it out for 6 years or else you have really shot yourself in the foot.

Semmelweis, though, allows you to do your 6th year in New York, if you want. So essentially, you are only in Hungary for 5 years. Check out New York Medical College (http://www.nymc.edu) and find the "Fifth Pathway" program. The thing is, it's pretty expensive, and to be eligible, you have to have all your prereqs done in the US (which it sounds like maybe you do?) and have an MCAT score I believe.

[medical_student_hungary]

hey guys,
i need your help. i've been admitted into the medical schools at pecs (hungary). i am aware that hungary has only six-year medical programs. however, because i already have a degree in pharmacy, i wanted to know if it is possible for me to finish the medical school (under normal circumstances, that is) in five years on the basis of my Bsc.
i called the school and made some enquiry. i was told of certain "exemptions" as regards courses that i have already done. however, i would prefer to know from current students in hungary if such things do exist. has anyone done it before? (that is finishing in 5 years).
i was on the view that the school would admit me into their 2nd year and then allow me register those 1st year courses that i have not yet done (which i know are very few). but my acceptance letter says i'm admitted into the 1st semester of the six-year medical program.
any help would be appreciated.
hope to hear from someone soon.
thanks .

Hey there

My first advice is not to go if things do not appear clear. there were few students who came in with some degrees. NONE of them went directly into second year. JUst got one or two subjects accepted. This is the same in any Hungarian school. Not much valuable, since you will surely need to do the main subjects of the first year and perhaps you will only be exempted from Pharmacology in the third. Also, these exemptions are given on individual basis. Best to "pay" an agent to help-- they are the ones that manage the internal transfers within Hungary, so they might do this too.
Also, do not go on word of mouth. Tell them to send you an official document stating that you would be exempted from so and so. They might tell you to come, join and then try for those exemptions... and that can go either way.
apart from that, as Zut says, if you already have an undergrad, then why not try the US itself. There is no US prep in Hungary, totally different system and full of problems. Ask yourself how many more years do you want to give to this-- it may be more than 6. Add that on top of what you have already done. and ask yourself and research the school and GET THEIR PROMISES IN WRITING.

Any further questions, feel free to ask

MSH

[gawtti]

This is difficult to say. I do know of one American (and a few Canadian students) who did transfer straight into "second year". however, they had to do anatomy I (taken in 2nd semester of first year) together with all the other second year classes. I agree with medstudenthungary, get everything in writing before you commit. I'll ask the American student how exactly he did it and i'll get back to you.

Good Luck!


hey guys,
i wanted to know if it is possible for me to finish the medical school (under normal circumstances, that is) in five years on the basis of my Bsc.
.

[african_child]

heya,
thanks lots guys for your help and advice (especially from MSH...he he). well,actually i tried the US, but its obvious their schools are very competitive and expensive.plus, we don't have any MCAT exams centre here (although i hear they will make it possible to sit for the exams online in any prometric(?) centre) i really dont wish to practice in the US,but back in my country (nigeria). i've been thinking a lot about the "exemptions" and gradually coming to the conclusion that they may produce much trouble than ease later. i've nursed the thought of starting from the 1st year but another six years in college is scary!!! if i know that students are assured of graduating successfully after six years, i may go for it. i believe i can put in my best, but will my best count? has there been any case of lecturers deliberately failing students or victimisations?
if these aren't common in hungary, then i may consider the 6 years. tell me what you think.
thanks

[african_child]

also, i've be waiting for your reply @ gawtti. thx

[Zut Alors!]

It seems Hungarian schools are not corrupt in the way Romanian/Serbian schools are reputed as. I'd say you should start from year 1; if you are respectful, I don't think your professors would fail you just because they feel like it. Plus, even if they could, why do you think they would only fail you in first year and not second year?

I actually think doing firt year would be good. You already know the material, so you can get a feeling for exams and how professors are without having the stress of having to learn loads of new material, plus a foreign language. I'm going to be graduating soon and have considered certain 6-year schools, and I look at it as a plus. Your grades will most likely be much higher than some of your classmates, and your profs will think you are an amazing student :)

[african_child]

thanks so much Zut Alors!, i feel encouraged by your remarks. BTW,what do you mean you would be graduating soon? from high school or from medical college? i would love to know.
i wish you could tell me more about the quality & recognition of the Hungarian Medical Degrees. i have no doubt about them though.
on a light note, i'm somehow concerned that if i opted for the 6 year medical program, my friends will long established & working. & i'm gonna be 29 years before i graduate!:-)

[gawtti]

the quality of the education is good. the quality of teaching is a different story! however, it will give you the opportunity. i mean, this is why you choose to go outside of your native country to become a doctor, right? i have many nigerian friends who are very happy with their choice. they all said they didn't even consider going to a med school in nigeria. so, that should tell you about the quality of education in hungary. since, you're african! if you were from a western country it would be a different story.

anyway, my amercian friend just applied and had all his credits transferred. so, basically he started in second year but had to do anatomyI (from first year). that was all he had to do from first year.

are you going to practice medicine somewhere in africa?

anyway, since you have a **, why don't you look into the 4yr programs in poland. it will save two years.

ok good luck!

thanks so much Zut Alors!, i feel encouraged by your remarks. BTW,what do you mean you would be graduating soon? from high school or from medical college? i would love to know.
i wish you could tell me more about the quality & recognition of the Hungarian Medical Degrees. i have no doubt about them though.
on a light note, i'm somehow concerned that if i opted for the 6 year medical program, my friends will long established & working. & i'm gonna be 29 years before i graduate!:-)

[tgrilias]

As far I as know in case you have a health science releated bachelor degree you can apply for anatomy summer school at szeged university. that course starts at 15 of august and lasts about 15 days.afterwards you give a test and if you pass it you are admitted directly to the second year of medicine.

[Zut Alors!]

As far I as know in case you have a health science releated bachelor degree you can apply for anatomy summer school at szeged university. that course starts at 15 of august and lasts about 15 days.afterwards you give a test and if you pass it you are admitted directly to the second year of medicine.

Wow, that's ridiculous! I don't think 15 days of anatomy can replace a whole year worth. I'd understand if it was two months long, but 2 weeks, geez!

[tgrilias]

This program is extra hard (everyday anatomy lessons from 9 the morning until 6 the evening) and refers only to people who have graduated a health releated university (pharmancy,nursing,dentistry).
Me personally I had applied for that program but I was rejected because the Physical Therapy University Of Athens (from which recently I graduated ) doesn't contain any biochemistry lesson on it's program, so I gave entrance exam and I start normally on the 1st year, this september.
I believe that with a pharmacy degree someone can easily been accepted to the 2 year of medicine at szeged.

[african_child]

heya gawtti,
thanks lots for your contribution. i'm so glad to hear that there're nigerians studying there...(it's hard to believe,but i've not yet met any one of them yet ;-)).
i did consider the option of 4-year programme in poland, but i did that a bit late. the deadline has past (jogiellonian uni.). plus, they require MCAT. it's hard to sit for that exams here as there is NO centre here in nigeria(to my knowledge). although i saw on aamc.org that the exams will go paperless this year. i didnt want to take any chances.another reason was that my Bsc won't be ready before thier deadline. anyway, that's that.
i was thinking of relinquishing the transfer to the 2nd year directly, but since the impression i got here is that it can be done,i'll keep pushing. it may be easier when i get there (pecs) and i just hope it would be as simple as <b>tgrilias<b/> says it is in szeged.
i agree with you that the quality of education in europe (especially higher education) is much better than that in africa (to some extent, we're far behind. well, i can reliably say that for nigeria,anyway).so i believe i'm getting good education in hungary.
BTW, what are the challenges if i may wish to consider practising in europe or america? i'm aware of USMLE and stuffs like that. but does a non-citizen has any chances/opportunities there?
P.S. i don't mean to say you we're VERY helpful (@gawtii), but could you hook me up with one of those your nigerian friends? i wish to make contact before i get there. (my e-mail= ayikarz2000@yahoo.com)
hope to hear from you soon.
thanks.

[Stranger Stel]

hey, to add to the pot of comments, my uncle is head of oncology department at the uni of patra in greece. most doctors there send their children to hungary since it is considered very reputable, and being central europe has an incredible anatomy program. He has attended countless semenars at the universities in hungary and knows many professors personally. He assures me that this corruption that people speak of can no way go on, especially since the unis joined the european union. As far as six years goes. realistically that is nothing. i mean i come from canada and its 6 years there. You also have to complete a minimum of a bachors degree to be accepted. Students are used to the fact that you must devote at least 6-7 years post university to become a doctor. if you are trying to do it in less cuz 6 sounds overwhelming, then other jobs may be for you, especially if you wanted more than just a general practitioners degree. medical school is not a joke, nor is it for kids coming out of highshcool looking for their first away from home experience. It seems like alot of people posting speak of how long and hard school is in hungary. i find this quite humorable in regards to thinking medical school is anything else.

[J.H.]

hey guys,
i need your help. i've been admitted into the medical schools at pecs (hungary). i am aware that hungary has only six-year medical programs. however, because i already have a degree in pharmacy, i wanted to know if it is possible for me to finish the medical school (under normal circumstances, that is) in five years on the basis of my Bsc.
i called the school and made some enquiry. i was told of certain "exemptions" as regards courses that i have already done. however, i would prefer to know from current students in hungary if such things do exist. has anyone done it before? (that is finishing in 5 years).
i was on the view that the school would admit me into their 2nd year and then allow me register those 1st year courses that i have not yet done (which i know are very few). but my acceptance letter says i'm admitted into the 1st semester of the six-year medical program.
any help would be appreciated.
hope to hear from someone soon.
thanks .


Pecs University isnt a university. Its a bank.
They accept almost everyone so the cashflow is good.

[varghesejv]

You can take the risk over your rights. The program is unfair and your vulnerability may be explored. I wouldn't suggest to get exploited.

[J.H.]

You can take the risk over your rights. The program is unfair and your vulnerability may be explored. I wouldn't suggest to get exploited.

Exactly, do what you are told or get lost.

Pecs accepts about 220 students right now for the first semester.
Second semester the anatomy starts, they only have room for about 90.

All exams except chemistry is oral. They can fuck you easily if they want.

[Mister]

wow J.H and varghesejv sure poet together a lot and sure to like to bash Hungarian med schools coincidence? If you in fact are two different peopl why are you bashing hungary soooo much? can you tell me of your experiences? what year are you now and where?

[J.H.]

wow J.H and varghesejv sure poet together a lot and sure to like to bash Hungarian med schools coincidence? If you in fact are two different peopl why are you bashing hungary soooo much? can you tell me of your experiences? what year are you now and where?

Im in first year, its shit here. Really.
Teachers who teach only because they are forced to do so, teachers who speak very bad english and CANNOT TEACH PROPERLY!

Im in Pecs, hungary, sucks bigtime here.
Check my other threads about hungary..

[Mister]

thanks JH what are you planning to do then? what are your recommendations to me? where are u planning to practice?

[whattupdog6969]

I did it in 5 years and two and a half months. Must be some record. Because I did it with US clinical experience, for the majority of the final year I received good credit.