I need help! I NEED HELP!!! PLEASE SOMEONE!! PLEASE!!

[Kaveh]

Hello!

Simply I need help! I really need help here. Well, here it is, I am a high school graduate and I must say that it has been my dream since I was a 6 to become a doctor. Now here I am looking into the European Medical School (Especially Eastern Europe). Let me tell you that Im not a US/EU/Canadian citizen. I've been looking into the Hungarian Med-Schools, particularly Pecs Medical School. However, since 20 minutes ago that Ive been reading through this web site, I just cannot close my mouth! There are so many negative points about this med school and due to the fact that I have not got much time, I need to rush if I really wanna get into ANY medschools. Now..you my friends..would you be able to give me some pieces of advise base on either your own experience or what you know about these Easy European medschools. Which one would you recommend the best? My goal is to practice in the United States of America.

I truly need your help.

Thanks A MILLION!!!

THANK YOU!!

[Kaveh]

WELCOME TO ************.COM (http://www.topmedschools.topmedschools.com/)

[gawtti]

if you're dealing with r*y d***v**i, then steer clear of this guy. the school is good but this agent has been known to scam heaps of money from prospective students for doing nothing. me included but i was smart enough to smell a crook..haha. i got accepted applying straight to the school.

that website you posted is run by the agent i mentioned above. debrecen has the most number of north american students, NOT pecs. also, the curriculm at all 4 schools are the same. pecs is not a special school. what it really comes down to is where you would prefer to live for 6 years. debrecen & pecs are the same. in that they are both located in small cities.

btw, hungarian schools are not easy..haha!

good luck!

[whattupdog6969]

I dunno, I would stear clear away from Pecs, just because of Mr. r d stories that I have heard. He got kicked out of Debrecen, because he couldnt perform his shady duties, so did Hopeless Medical Institute, they were also transferred the heck out. Thank goodness do not need any shady and corrupt business people to run the local medical school system.

good luck![/quote]


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[medical_student_hungary]

Hey there

If you aren't from the US/Canada etc then getting there with a degree from hungary will be extremely hard-- none of them prepare you for USMLE/ US clinical settings etc. So getting to the states this way is a nearly impossible dream with non-us citizenship/experience added on top of it. Remember you have to compete/ selected from US graduates, Foreign educated but US graduates, and others-- what are the chances for someone- non-US and graduated from an EE school?? So best bet would be to go to a more solid Med school and unfortunately many EE schools are not so good.

If medicine is your dream since the age of 6 then Hungary will bring big dissappointments in terms of the way things are run here and all the time and energy you will drain uselessly. Why not apply to US schools directly? Prepare for MCATs, get an undergraduate etc. etc. Because chances are you will waste the same number of years plus the 6 to graduate from Hungary due to the way it is there!

By the way, I assume you are Iranian- from Iran or Scandenavia (from your name)?

MSH

[Kaveh]

Well..now what am I gonna do then? I really wanna practice in the United States of America!! Is there any way that I can do my 6 or even 7 year of schooling somewhere in Caribbean/Europe or anywhere else and then I do my medical rotations (Internships) and the residencies in the States?
Guys I really need help. Please. Can you guys give me a piece of advice? I would truly appreciate that. I can even put something around 120 grands into it.
Which school would be a good move to get into the United States of America as a doctor? What are your suggestions guys?

BTW..yes..the answer to your question Mr/Mrs. Medical_Student_Hungary (MSH) is yes. How did you find that out? Just from my name? You must know a lot of Iranians. Or youre an Iranian self.


Thanks a million guys. I will be looking forward to hear from you.

[gawtti]

i'm sorry i forgot the fact that you're not a US/Canadian citizen. let me say this, it'll be extremely hard for you to get a residency in the US. no matter where you went to school. it doesn't matter if you went to a german med school or oxford or cambridge. unless you are very determined and work hard. it'll be difficult but doable.

btw, there are many hungarian citizens getting great residencies in the US. but, they all were very good students while in school (gpa= >4.0). i'm currently in contact with many hungarian citizens who knew no one in the US. nontheless, they matched in the US. so, if you know you are determined and really really want to practice in the US. DO NOT LET PPL ON THIS FORUM DISCOURAGE YOU FROM YOUR GOAL!! just because they didn't doesn't mean you can't. it is possible but you'll have to work extremely hard to get it.

are you in iran? my good friend here, Ali, is also from mashhad, iran. he also has the same dream, to practice in new york city.

[Kaveh]

No actually I'm not. I'm in Canada at the moment (On an International student visa). Now the thing is which school? Where I am gonna do the schoo?? Which one might work better than the other? I am a very hard worker student, I left Iran when I was 15 on my own (well, I had my father's financial aid though) and I came to Canada and I never gone back since. Now here I am finishing the senior school and I really wanna get my Med degree and work in the U.S, but I think it is rarely possible! do you have any idea about a good med-school that is approved by any of the States?? California, Tennessee, etc?? I am going to write the examinations for there Hungarian Med-Schools: Pecs, Semmelweis University and University of Szeged Albert Szent-Györgyi. Do you guys have any comment on any of those?
How about AIM in Poland? I believe the school is called Lodz! Is this one better than the other three?


Is there any limitations for people holding an Iranian passport???

[gawtti]

you know what? there are more canadians/americans in debrecen than any other hungarian school. may i ask why aren't you applying to debrecen? all hungarians i know insist that sote and dote are the same. and they would choose dote and sote over pecs & szeged. but then again its up to you. its not my future..hahaha.

the three hungarian schools you mentioned AND debrecen
are approved in california. but only debrecen is approved in new york. polish schools (english programs) aren't approved in california. all HMI schools (lublin and silesia) are approved in new york. i would stick with hungarian schools. just to be on the safe side.

my friend ali has a family friend in memphis doing residency. came straight from iran (tehran university) but he is a us citizen..hahaha. so, it was easy for him.

why not just do university in canada? as you can imagine, anyone with an iranian p/port will not be looked upon very well in the US.

[whattupdog6969]

yes for Hungarian citizens, it is very difficult. That is why alot of them try and marry US citizens, who dont know any better and are naive, and subsequently they will get the visa, and come the USA much much much much more easily. Its only select people who are gullible enough to go for it, but that makes it about 100 times easier to get into the States. Otherwise get USCE, and score well on USMLE.

[medical_student_hungary]

Hey there

Yes, i guessed from your name... and no, I am not iranian myself... just know loads of them from Debrecen...LOL... and it is Mr.MSH. You should look at the whole situation realistically and see what are the odds for getting into the US. DON'T compare yourself with either the US students who studied in Hungary or the Hungarians! Look up what are the odds for a non-US citizen with a degree from Hungary... assuming all goes well and smooth while in Hungary. And if you already are doing school in Canada, then why not try there itself?!? It would be whole lot easier (and safer) to get into USA that way! EE countries IS a risk... no USMLE preps, hard to get US rotations (for a Non-US citizen plus it is a must plus point to get residency), bad system as it is.
Try some of the better Carribean schools as they have US rotations. And prep for USMLEs!
BTW this is not discouragement from your goal... just telling you to look and research better... know what you are getting into... do not rush! If you have gotten to Canada, for whatever difficulties back home, then now don't make a mistake on time, money and your future. I know a lot of Iranians who came to Hungary with this same dream (each didn't want to go back to Iran) and then the reality of the situation here sank in. So be sure. Look up things, do not fall for the rosy pictures that agents paint-- ask yourself that if EE countries would pave the way openly to US, then all the US wannabes would go there to save money and time-- and foreigner seats in US schools would be empty. IT is a chance mostly for those US citizens who could not get into US schools directly ( for whatever reasons- money, age, grades) and not really for others to get into US.

GoodLuck
MSH

[gawtti]

polish, german, british, or even hungarian schools will atleast give you a CHANCE. the best chance is for you to do uni in canada. btw, the ones i know of aren't married to american citizens. they didn't need to because they worked hard and got great connections while in med school which helped with LORs. if you want i can get you in contact with one whose currently a post-doc fellow at USC in southern cal. who btw, got a national kidney foundation fellowship for 2 years (after her current one at USC). btw her PI is also a hungarian grad.

i think it's easier for european citizens (esp. EU citizens) to gain residencies in the US. but, being irainian you have a 1% chance.

sorry, but this is the reality of the situation!! with all that's going on in the world today. it's hard for a citizen of any country labelled the "axis of evil" to gain entrance in the US. unless your life is in danger from the iranian regime..haha.

btw, i'm in hungary because i never attended uni in the US and they wanted me to repeat all my pre-meds which i declined. i'm happy with my decision. however, different students have different experiences. if you come here thinking that you're higher than the professors. which the majority of students from britian & north america tend to be. then, you will be dealt with accordingly. but, if you respect their way of doing things (remember it was your choice in the first place to come to hungary). then, you'll be fine.

SO, THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS.....STAY IN CANADA AND DO UNI THERE!! WHY NOT USE THAT MONEY AND PAY FOR A GREAT LAWYER WHO CAN HELP YOU GET AN INTERNATIONAL STUDENT VISA TO DO UNI THERE?? YOU'RE STILL VERY YOUNG, 18 RIGHT?

[ebba]

I think it is striktly unfair to advise students to stay away from Pécs medical school just because this mr. Ray ******** is linked to the school. I have never dealt with him but I can understand from what I have been reading here that he is not to be trusted and a man that you better stay away from.
However, the school and the education can (and from what I have heard from several sources ARE) very good and keep a high standard. Of course it is not good for the school to have an agent like ******** but I still think that it is extremly unfair to exclude Pécs from the debate just because of that. Pécs its not even part of the hungarian med schools in the topic on this site (only semmelweis, szeged, debrecen). I keep in touch with several students in Pécs and they are very content with the school. Don't talk badly about a school that is good just because of ********...

[rogue36]

Can anyone tell me, where on the site, do you find the app. I have been trying to read through it, but cannot find it. Debrecen?:confused:

[gawtti]

try the school website; www.edu.dote.hu (http://www.edu.dote.hu). good luck!

Can anyone tell me, where on the site, do you find the app. I have been trying to read through it, but cannot find it. Debrecen?:confused:

[Littman]

This is my first post here on this website. I am a American citizen who went to Pecs, Hungary right out of hight school in 1988 and I graduated in 2004. I had a very good experience there. Today I am an internist in CT and an associate professor of Medicine at a Yale affiliated hospital

I applied right out of high school. I did take college prep courses esp in
biochemistry. In spite of this I was not as prepared as my classmates from other countries IE Sweden, Greece, Iran. They had received a much better high school education then my American education. Though I was behind in basic sciences, with hard work, I could make up the ground. Even American student who had completed Pre-Med found the basic science courses difficult. If you think that you can go out drinking or go clubbing a few times a week, then you will not make it. If you want to experience "the college life" then Pecs is not for you-there is just not the time.

The basic sciences IE Anatomy, Biology, Pharmacology, Micro must be studied in minutia. This is the difference between the American system and the Hungarian. American medical students are taught the basic sciences in less detail but they are taught from the beginning to be able to apply it clinically from day #1. Hungarian medical students are required to learn the basic sciences in great detail but the ability to apply it clinically is taught during the clinical years 4, 5, 6.

This is why Hungarian students find the USMLE 1 difficult to pass if they take the exam after their 3rd year. If they would wait to take it after their fifth year then they would find it to be easy. I took my USMLE 1 & 2 in my 6th year and I passed them with good scores.

As mentions above exams are ORAL. It is harder to pass an oral exam than a written exam. You need a certain amount of knowledge to pick the right answer from a list, you really have to know your stuff to explain a condition in a conversation. I now believe that the oral exam process overall made me a better physician. I am able to communicate well with patients and colleges very well

[Littman]

During my 5th and 6th year, I was able to do the majority of my clinical rotations in the US (RI Hospital-Int Med) (St Josephs Hospital, Patterson NJ-Peds), (St Vincents Med Ctr-Bridgeport, CT-Surgery). I did not pay a dime to do these rotation. I cold called former Pecs alumni working in the US who hooked me up with the clerkships-externship-clinical observer-or whatever you call it. At the end of the rotation, I would go back to Hungary to take the oral exam. While in the US, I worked my a$$ off and at the end of the rotation I would solicit recommendation letters. The way it works in the US is your supervising resident does your evaluation form. These go up the food chain and finally the department head writes you a letter made of from your evaluations. These letters are needed when you apply for residency.

I don't see why anyone form Hungary needs a 5th pathway. You do not need it to get a residency. You will learn the US systen, note writting and abreviations in your first month of residency

[Littman]

I had no problem getting an Internal Medicine residency. I applied to 50 programs thinking that I would not get any. I was offered interviews at 45 including Yale, Brown and Columbia. I had at least 10 out of the match offers. I ended up taking a University residency close to my home. They also accepted my wife, another Pecs graduate. I can say that every residency program in CT has had Pecs graduate-probably over 40 in all from the English program only. This is due to the fact that these graduates receive a very good education and were hard working. If you make it through medical school then you can do anything.

My class started with 60 students and we graduated about 30 including 5 who had stayed back 1 year from a senior year.

[Littman]

Hungarian Medical School is hard. If you don't keep your nose to the grindstone and make sacrifices, you will not graduate. The Professors will not let a weak individual graduate to the next year. There are a lot of whiners on this site about Hungarian schools. They are likely in the 50% that didn't have what it takes to graduate, so it is the "schools fault" They were the ones sitting on the wall on Szechenyi ter watching the girls go by or polishing their beemer that daddy bought them instead of learning all those little bumps on the clavicle like they should have for Anatomy class

If you want any info email me

[whattupdog6969]

Hungarian Medical School is hard. If you don't keep your nose to the grindstone and make sacrifices, you will not graduate. The Professors will not let a weak individual graduate to the next year. There are a lot of whiners on this site about Hungarian schools. They are likely in the 50% that didn't have what it takes to graduate, so it is the "schools fault" They were the ones sitting on the wall on Szechenyi ter watching the girls go by or polishing their beemer that daddy bought them instead of learning all those little bumps on the clavicle like they should have for Anatomy class

If you want any info email me


I am sorry, but even if you have 99/99/99 you do not get 45 interviews.

[Sage75]

I"m currently in my first year at University of Szeged. I came from the U.S. as well, but already have a ** in Biology/ pre-med and a 1 year Post-bac cert. in Biomedical Sciences. I am finding that most of first semester courses are repeats of my freshman year in undergraduate school. I may be able to get credit transfers for some of the classes. You are correct about not partying while in school here. Just in the first few weeks I have already pretty much become a hermit. A lot of material to cover.
Littman I was wondering ....did it really take you from 1988 to 2004 to finish your medical schooling? I thought it's only 6 years. i know sometimes things happen and you have to take classes over again, but that seems like an awful long time. Or are you including residency?

[Littman]

Yes you are right......I started in 1988 and graduated in 1994

[Littman]

whatsupdog- In the day when I applied for residency, all you had to do was get a copy of the green book, pick your residencies and send out universal applications. I sent out over 100 and I had 45 invites for interviews. The tough process was to get "the rektor" to sign 100+ copies of the deans letter.

[Littman]

The bad thing about Pecs is that you graduate so late: Sept for me that you miss a year because you had not graduated in time to have started your residency in July 1 like the American grads.
The unfair thing is American grads do not need to have passed their USMLE 2 by the time they start residency. They usually take i in the second month after starting residency. It is just assumed that they will pass. American IMGs must have passed USMLE 1 and 2 to start residency. Foreign IMGs must pass USMLE 1 and 2 but it is better from a visa point of view if they also pass USMLE part 3 prior to starting residency

[whattupdog6969]

whatsupdog- In the day when I applied for residency, all you had to do was get a copy of the green book, pick your residencies and send out universal applications. I sent out over 100 and I had 45 invites for interviews. The tough process was to get "the rektor" to sign 100+ copies of the deans letter.

oh... cool, you know its not that bad nowadays either, just have to apply broadly. Copy of greenbook and Rektor ha ha I remember those days... it worked out well though, they really helped to to help out students, I even got to take my state examination oral examination with the Hungarian students. Praise to Hungary and DOTE, first few years are kind of rough, but after that its pretty much smooth sailing.

[whattupdog6969]

The bad thing about Pecs is that you graduate so late: Sept for me that you miss a year because you had not graduated in time to have started your residency in July 1 like the American grads.
The unfair thing is American grads do not need to have passed their USMLE 2 by the time they start residency. They usually take i in the second month after starting residency. It is just assumed that they will pass. American IMGs must have passed USMLE 1 and 2 to start residency. Foreign IMGs must pass USMLE 1 and 2 but it is better from a visa point of view if they also pass USMLE part 3 prior to starting residency

step 2 in residency??? thats crazy... I have heard of it happening too as well.... some visa sponsoring programs require step 3, will never ever understand that part. Thats crazy, that USMDs can take step 2 during residency. It happens more often than people think though. I am an IMG, was on my interview trail, and a program director told me that I could take step 2 during residency also. I asked him to repeat it please twice. Was surprised also.

[Littman]

The deal with the USMLE is
American grads can start residency only with step 1 but they have to pass step 2 to be allowed to continue into their second year.

American IMGs must pass their USMLE 1 & 2 prior to starting their residency

Foreign IMG must pass their USMLE 1 and 2 prior to starting their residency. In this case they will be given a STUDENT VISA J-1. After they are done with the residency, they must get a job in an underserved area for two years OR go back to their home country for two years. After which in both cases they can then apply for a H-1 work visa.

If a Foreign IMG completes USMLE 1, 2 & 3 prior to residency then they will get a H-1 Work VISA right from the beginning. After residency they go right out and work

[whattupdog6969]

The deal with the USMLE is
American grads can start residency only with step 1 but they have to pass step 2 to be allowed to continue into their second year.

American IMGs must pass their USMLE 1 & 2 prior to starting their residency

Foreign IMG must pass their USMLE 1 and 2 prior to starting their residency. In this case they will be given a STUDENT VISA J-1. After they are done with the residency, they must get a job in an underserved area for two years OR go back to their home country for two years. After which in both cases they can then apply for a H-1 work visa.

If a Foreign IMG completes USMLE 1, 2 & 3 prior to residency then they will get a H-1 Work VISA right from the beginning. After residency they go right out and work

interesting thanx for clarification.... no wonder most programs are non visa friendly. Then again there exists a decent sized proportion of residency programs that are IMG and visa friendly.

[amaadani]

Hello,
I am looking for info from people who have been through fifth pathway, I have read all about it online and I would like to hear from people who have expreinced themselves or know someone who has been through fifthpathway. thanks in advance.
Arash M.

[whattupdog6969]

Hello,
I am looking for info from people who have been through fifth pathway, I have read all about it online and I would like to hear from people who have expreinced themselves or know someone who has been through fifthpathway. thanks in advance.
Arash M.


hello Arash, I have done it, pm me if you have any questions, or here... specifically, do you have any questions? It is one year of supervised clinical experience. Alot of residency programs nowadays are requiring USCE prior to residency training. It helps your CV. Scores help alot too, but US LORs and supervised clinical training can help alot as well. Downsides, it is one full year, and expensive, can reach up to $50,000 dollars for the full year.
Plus sides, does help your residency application, plus fifth pathway takes care of alot pertinent to your residency application. Deans letter from fifth pathway and New York Medical College for example.
There are certain people on this board, that despise Fifth Pathway for some odd reason. I cannot understand it. It is helpful nonetheless.

[Bechtel]

hello Arash, I have done it, pm me if you have any questions, or here... specifically, do you have any questions? It is one year of supervised clinical experience. Alot of residency programs nowadays are requiring USCE prior to residency training. It helps your CV. Scores help alot too, but US LORs and supervised clinical training can help alot as well. Downsides, it is one full year, and expensive, can reach up to $50,000 dollars for the full year.
Plus sides, does help your residency application, plus fifth pathway takes care of alot pertinent to your residency application. Deans letter from fifth pathway and New York Medical College for example.
There are certain people on this board, that despise Fifth Pathway for some odd reason. I cannot understand it. It is helpful nonetheless.
Did you do 5th pathway? Do they require undergrad degree and mcat scores to be eligible? If someone goes to Hungarian six yr. program after H.S. only,is it true that he can do 1 YR. supervised clinical training but will only get ECFMG certification instead of fifth pathway as he did not not have MCAT and Undergrad degree? Please explain,many thanks

[whattupdog6969]

Did you do 5th pathway? Do they require undergrad degree and mcat scores to be eligible? If someone goes to Hungarian six yr. program after H.S. only,is it true that he can do 1 YR. supervised clinical training but will only get ECFMG certification instead of fifth pathway as he did not not have MCAT and Undergrad degree? Please explain,many thanks

Yes I did Fifth Pathway. They do require undergraduate work, but not an MCAT. Likely you can get in without undergrad if your USMLE is above 80 at least and you have a good medical school record. There are people who amaze me from Hungary, have repeated or postponed every single year and ended up graduating. Individuals such as this would be looked conspicuously upon. You eventually get both the Fifth Pathway certificate and ECFMG. I was a bit late graduating from medical school, and was able to work and fully function as a first year resident with my Fifth Pathway certificate back in 2005.
It is a very good route, but then again you can also set up rotations on your own IF you have connections. I liked Fifth Pathway, helped me alot in the match, but you can set up rotations on your own with connections, as mentioned above. Fifth pathway also provides a Dean's letter, which is very helpful.
If you do Fifth Pathway, you will obtain both the Fifth Pathway certificate (once you pass your step 2 ck and obtain a residency), as well as ECFMG once you complete medical school, USMLE Step I, Step II, and CS.

[Bechtel]

Yes I did Fifth Pathway. They do require undergraduate work, but not an MCAT. Likely you can get in without undergrad if your USMLE is above 80 at least and you have a good medical school record. There are people who amaze me from Hungary, have repeated or postponed every single year and ended up graduating. Individuals such as this would be looked conspicuously upon. You eventually get both the Fifth Pathway certificate and ECFMG. I was a bit late graduating from medical school, and was able to work and fully function as a first year resident with my Fifth Pathway certificate back in 2005.
It is a very good route, but then again you can also set up rotations on your own IF you have connections. I liked Fifth Pathway, helped me alot in the match, but you can set up connections on your own with connections, as mentioned above. Fifth pathway also provides a Dean's letter, which is very helpful.
If you do Fifth Pathway, you will obtain both the Fifth Pathway certificate (once you pass your step 2 ck and obtain a residency), as well as ECFMG once you complete medical school, USMLE Step I, Step II, and CS.
Thanks for your excellent info.Did you do any boot leg intense 6 week courses for Step 1 through Kaplan or Falcon in Dallas,TX. Or prepared your self? what material do you recommend to incorporate for studies from 1st or 2nd yr. on in Hungary to start preparing or get familiar with Step 1
format? thanks again

[whattupdog6969]

Thanks for your excellent info.Did you do any boot leg intense 6 week courses for Step 1 through Kaplan or Falcon in Dallas,TX. Or prepared your self? what material do you recommend to incorporate for studies from 1st or 2nd yr. on in Hungary to start preparing or get familiar with Step 1
format? thanks again

Hey, I do not think that any intense work is needed for step 1 to be perfectly honest with you. It is a matter of rapid recall, and not really so much critical thinking, which is what is required in residency and inservice examinations, as well as step 3.
Step I to be perfectly honest was the easiest step for me to do well on. I mean I have read for years that it is the most difficult step, and then everything just gets easier after that.
Whomsoever said that, is on drugs, because life just gets harder after completion of USMLE Step I lol.
Kaplan notes, Kaplan Qbank, and if you can get Kaplan live audio lectures and First Aid, thats more than enough for USMLE Step I. USMLE Step II Kaplan is ok, not that bad, and again First Aid is very very good for that step, alongside USMLE World questions and explanations. Premier Review is good for step 2 ck also
Step 3 is a whole different story, everything that says Kaplan is terrible for USMLE Step 3. Premier Review and USMLE World are the best and by far for this step.
USMLE Step I is the easiest obstacle, or hurdle towards practicing medicine in the United States, this is just my opinion. You should be just fine and 3 to 4 months if plenty of time.

[amaadani]

thanks for all the good info.
so is it really competitive to get into the fifthpathway program? I would like to know approximate number of applicants, their mean GPA and MCAT numbers...i could not find this kind of information any where....i wonder if they cut off numbers is like medical schools here in the U.S.
Arash.


hello Arash, I have done it, pm me if you have any questions, or here... specifically, do you have any questions? It is one year of supervised clinical experience. Alot of residency programs nowadays are requiring USCE prior to residency training. It helps your CV. Scores help alot too, but US LORs and supervised clinical training can help alot as well. Downsides, it is one full year, and expensive, can reach up to $50,000 dollars for the full year.
Plus sides, does help your residency application, plus fifth pathway takes care of alot pertinent to your residency application. Deans letter from fifth pathway and New York Medical College for example.
There are certain people on this board, that despise Fifth Pathway for some odd reason. I cannot understand it. It is helpful nonetheless.

[whattupdog6969]

thanks for all the good info.
so is it really competitive to get into the fifthpathway program? I would like to know approximate number of applicants, their mean GPA and MCAT numbers...i could not find this kind of information any where....i wonder if they cut off numbers is like medical schools here in the U.S.
Arash.


I dont think that its very competitive, best bet is to call Regina Damon at the office of Fifth Pathway, I believe that the last link was
www.fifthpathway.org (http://www.fifthpathway.org)

Regina should be on there somewhere, she is very very nice.
I would say that its tough to say the approximate number, probably close to two hundred when I went.
Not as hard to get into Fifth Pathway as a US medical school. We have had a few yearly from DOTE or Budapest, cannot remember the name of the medical school in Budapest, I would mispronounce it brutally. Semmelweis, is that close? :rolleyes:

[amaadani]

Hey thanks again, i think it is Semmelweis as you said.. :)

I dont think that its very competitive, best bet is to call Regina Damon at the office of Fifth Pathway, I believe that the last link was
www.fifthpathway.org (http://www.fifthpathway.org)

Regina should be on there somewhere, she is very very nice.
I would say that its tough to say the approximate number, probably close to two hundred when I went.
Not as hard to get into Fifth Pathway as a US medical school. We have had a few yearly from DOTE or Budapest, cannot remember the name of the medical school in Budapest, I would mispronounce it brutally. Semmelweis, is that close? :rolleyes:

[whattupdog6969]

Hey thanks again, i think it is Semmelweis as you said.. :)

Fifth Pathway Program - INTERVIEW - (http://www.uag.edu/medicine/fp/interview.htm)

previous link that I posted does not work, this link is much better.