Children's Hospitals and Clinics of Minnesota

[ducman]

Children's Hospitals and Clinics of Minnesota

[js_paramedic_1979]

From what I know, this is a pretty new rotation for Saba.. I'm headed here for PEDS on July 16th.. I was hoping to hear some firsthand info about the rotation and/or housing.. Thanks in advance..
Take care,
JS

[joelpi]

I'm currently finishing off a Peds core rotation at Children's. It is a good learning experience, but they work the students very hard. Students are placed in teams with a senior resident and an intern. Teams are on call every 4 days, including weekends and holidays. When their team is on call students are required to start work at 7:30am (8am on weekends) and must stay at the hospital until 1:30pm the following day. On call days I have typically gotten no more than 3 hours sleep and in some cases I have gotten only an hour. There is no cap on the number of patients that can be admitted during call days and so my team has had up to 19 admissions on occasions.

Weekdays work starts at 7:30am and students not on call are usually done by 3:30pm. Weekdays include case presentations/lectures from 11am-2pm. The quality of the didactics is mostly very good. Students also have the opportunity to visit the neonatal nursery in the morning a couple of times during the rotation.

Free lunch is served daily, but the quality of the food is not great. A meal card is also provided for call days and there is free parking in the hospital garage.

I can't comment on accomodation in Minneapolis as I have been staying with family.

I would certainly recommend this rotation. Students are treated with respect and are given a lot of responsibility for patient care. However, as I mentioned, students are required to work very hard during this rotation.

[MinnesotaMed]

I'm was very excited to see this posted!!! I am only in 2nd semester, so I have a long way to go, but I am glad to see that Saba has a clinical rotation in Minnesota. I am from Minnesota, so it would be nice to do a clinical rotation there. I have been to a couple of the Children's hospitals doing volunteer work and shadowing. The people there were always amazing!

[GFLIP]

joelpi, which location, st **** or minneapolis?

[Ferrarijp]

Minneapolis

[wolfvgang22]

Call Q4....guess it could be worse....could be Q3.
Glad there is another option for peds now. Thanks joelpi for the description!

[js_paramedic_1979]

So far the rotation has been great.. Call is q4, but it hasn't been bad.. I hear that the winter months are busier which only makes sense.. In the last 3 weeks my team has had the most admissions in comparison to the other groups while on call.. 16 was the most admissions and that was divided between 1 intern and 3 students... The learning environment seems to be exceptional... Locating housing for the short 6 wks may be the toughest challenge. I think it may be possible to do electives here as well.

[wolfvgang22]

Hey, is this one greenbook by specialty or just plain greenbook under FP?

[js_paramedic_1979]

It should be strict Greenbook... I'm rotating with U of MN peds residents.. I didn't search it out before I started, but I'm almost 100% sure it is strict..

[wolfvgang22]

Ok, I'm sold. I'll be there for Christmas. :)

[wolfvgang22]

It should be strict Greenbook... I'm rotating with U of MN peds residents.. I didn't search it out before I started, but I'm almost 100% sure it is strict..
University of Minnesota Program [3202621120]
University of Minnesota
Mayo Mail Code 391
420 Delaware Street, SE
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55455

Sponsoring Institution: University of Minnesota Medical School
Specialty: Pediatrics

Combined Program(s):
[7002614034] University of Minnesota Program (Internal Medicine/Pediatrics

[wolfvgang22]

I've been here at Children's Hospital Minneapolis for 3 weeks now of a 6 week rotation and so far its a great rotation. So far perhaps the best rotation I've had the opportunity to experience in med school. Students here are valued and given a lot of responsibility but also a good amount of supervision that is not overly critical but instructive and supportive.
A day goes like this: Show up at 7:30 and find out from the call team what happened overnight with your patients. Then you see your own patients all morning and present the patient to your assigned senior resident and formulate a plan, and then you present directly to the attending physician with your SOAP note. Finally you call your senior resident back and inform them of any changes the attending would like and implement the plan. In the afternoon you attend didactic lectures for about 3 hours. And the lectures are tailored for us, mostly about basic stuff we need to learn about pediatrics, not some video conference lecture intended for 3rd year residents. After lectures you follow up on any patient care issues, check out to your senior resident and call team, and go home.
No following overwhelmed or overworked interns around at all!
No teaching rounds where you walk around the hospital all day and watch other people take care of patients and occasionaly pimp you the millisecond you get tired or bored! People do ask you what your plan of care is, but its because they really expect you to help implement the plan. You round on your own set of 4 to 5 patients that you admitted when on call every 4th day, so you know the whole story from start to finish with few missing pieces. Students write progress notes, write orders in the chart that the resident co-signs, and is the first line of care for the patient (after the nurses, of course). You even get to dictate discharge summaries, something many hospitals never allow students to learn. Students here get exposed to and learn from nurses, residents, attendings, and other staff.
I'm very pleased so far that I came here for pediatrics.

added info - ended up getting a stellar letter of recommendation from the chair of this program, it has been a huge help and I have received many comments about the superb quality of the recommendation during residency interviews. A must do rotation on every level - the best one I did in med school, as it was the turning point for me in becoming a competent clinician in retrospect.

[MrChem]

I'm a long way from that stage, but still thanks a lot for the info, wolf