email governor shcwarzenegger

[jackets5]

We should email Gov. Arnold. Even if you have no desire at all to practice in california. I was on the Cali state medical board website and Cali will give a licsence to practice to doctors trianed in Iraq, Afghanastain, Kuwait and a ton of other third world countries with no issue and will not even look at the application of a AUA or school like thats graduates. These other docs have no knowledge of the United states health care system and god knows what their training consisted of. At the very least Cali should entertain applications from AUA or other grads on a case by case basis even if we the applicant has to pay for all administrative costs. I can see giving a licesne to a doc trained in England, France, Italy. But out right licesnse to docs from Iraq, Venezuala, Brazil etc and not even a chance for some US citizen Carrib grads is just wrong. I have already emailed the goverenor and urge everyone here to do the same

[Dien dien]

lol, even AFGHANISTAN????

[jackets5]

yeah afghasatain. just go the cali medical board site they will licsence pretty much anyone from another country as long as it is not a english language program in a non-english speaking country and most of the carrib schools. its really absurd

[Dien dien]

That's crazy! I'm not from california, but I'd like to go there, good temperature and many other plus. I'd be in for emailing governer, but is he in charge for this liscensing or we will end up writing the email and then he can't do anything about it?

[Scott1981]

this has been discussed 150,000 times already. now its 150,001.

[Drtobe?]

this has been discussed 150,000 times already. now its 150,001.

here is the answer from Arnold, "GO TO CALI APPROVED SCHOOL. PERIOD!"

[MORM4LIFE]

shcwarzenegger for president!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dien dien]

I think a gay marriage should be between a man and a lady.

[Dien dien]

here is the answer from Arnold, "GO TO CALI APPROVED SCHOOL. PERIOD!"

yea, I'm going to a california approved medical school, in afghanistan.

[Scott1981]

yea, I'm going to a california approved medical school, in afghanistan.

if thats what it takes..... then slap on that kevlar. :lol:

[MajMD]

"She's either Puerto Rican, or the same thing as Cuban, I mean they are all very hot. They have the, you know, part of the black blood in them and part of the Latino blood in them that together makes it." - Ahhhhhhnold on California Assemblywoman Bonnie Garcia, the lone Latina Republican in the Legislature

[MDXRS22]

"She's either Puerto Rican, or the same thing as Cuban, I mean they are all very hot. They have the, you know, part of the black blood in them and part of the Latino blood in them that together makes it." - Ahhhhhhnold on California Assemblywoman Bonnie Garcia, the lone Latina Republican in the Legislature

She is just yummmmmmy;)

You just make me spill my sweat by making that statement!
ain't she HOTTTTT????

[MD777]

have you ever visited San Francisco? it is the top scenic city in the world...i have a home there...we live there part time and some time in NYC, depending on the WEATHER...pls visit, then you will consider "re-taking" your med school in iraq or afg...

you are very funny! what does dien dien mean? it sounds like a gal's name!

That's crazy! I'm not from california, but I'd like to go there, good temperature and many other plus. I'd be in for emailing governer, but is he in charge for this liscensing or we will end up writing the email and then he can't do anything about it?

[MD777]

we will be in worse economy...we will all become a 3rd country soon, if there is another rep.......how big is our deficit now "again"?

china is owning us...europe is moving in...india is our overseas factory...what else??

yes, hilary...if i was not in school now, i will campaign for her FREE!


shcwarzenegger for president!!!!!!!!!!!

[ASIANDOC]

Forget about Afganistan or others,just listen to the interviews of the Iraqi ministry of health officials in the past 2 years saying our education and healthcare system is "way beyond substandard" yet graduates in all areas not only medicine are accepted in the USA [I guess just to keep the citizens of Iraq in a US supportive mood],now I believe any school anywhere is better than Iraqi schools and that is not my opnion but the Iraqi officials statments.
Also I believe California should focus on "site visits" internally by inspecting its own healthcare deficiencies ,one hospital closed few months ago due to many dealth related of errors and another hospital might close to dealth related to ignoring a plead for help!!!!and many other issues
the only 2 states with what's called a list of schools had the major standards issue:
Indiana had the dealth of many helpless infants due to heparin wrong conc and CA hospitals repeatedly in the news!!!!!
Its sad that CA keep paying millinions and millions in such lawsuits settlements for above wrongful dealth ,yet unable to pay for schools site visits!!!

my personal opnion

taken from public info /info are public and names are in news but I deleted them anyway.sad story and its happening in the USA.




June 13, 2007, 10:12PMLA hospital faces new threat of closure
































LOS ANGELES — An inner-city hospital struggled to survive Wednesday amid a new report of breakdowns in patient care, the replacement of its chief medical officer and an ultimatum to correct long-running problems or close.
Newly released tapes of 911 calls reveal that a woman who lay bleeding on the floor of the emergency room died last month after dispatchers refused to contact paramedics or an ambulance to take her to another facility.
The woman's treatment was "callous, it was a horrible thing," Los Angeles County Supervisor xxxxx said Wednesday.
Earlier this week, the county Board of Supervisors grilled health officials about conditions at Martin Luther King Jr.-Harbor Hospital. It ordered them to return in two weeks with a plan to deal with a hospital shutdown if it is unable to correct deficiencies laid out in a federal inspection that concluded emergency room patients were in "immediate jeopardy."
The federal review was based, in part, on a report that a man with a brain tumor waited four days in the emergency room when he needed to be transferred to another facility for lifesaving brain surgery.
After the inspection last week, the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services gave the hospital 23 days to correct problems or face a loss of federal funding. That could force it to close.
Burke said the county-run hospital is a crucial facility and that nearby hospitals could not handle its patient load.
"I can't tell you whether it can be fixed but ... the community can not stand to lose another emergency room," she said.
Dr. xxxxxx, the hospital's chief medical officer, was placed on "ordered absence" Monday and replaced on an interim basis by Dr. xxxxx, senior medical officer for the county health department. Department spokesman xxxx confirmed the change but declined to elaborate Wednesday, saying it was a personnel matter.
Health officials are "doing everything in our power to help MLK-Harbor meet national standards," Dr. xxxxxx director of the health department, said in a statement.
In a report to the supervisors on Tuesday, xxxxxsaid quality of care had improved but warned that there was no "roadmap" for what he called the most difficult effort to "reinvent a failing hospital" ever undertaken in the United States. The hospital has served "thousands of patients well and a few very poorly," he said.
The hospital, formerly known as King-Drew, was built several years after the 1965 Watts riot to provide medical care in the South Los Angeles area. It has been cited more than a dozen times in 3 1/2 years for inadequate care that has led to patient deaths and injuries.
The facility came under renewed scrutiny with the release of the 911 calls in the case of xxxxxxxx, , who died of a perforated bowel on May 9. Her death was ruled accidental by the Los Angeles County coroner's office.
Relatives said she lay in pain for 45 minutes before dying, a delay XXXXhas called "inexcusable."
A security camera may have recorded the scene, but the tape was not being made public because of patient privacy laws, xxxx said Wednesday.
"We know we have the responsibility to make sure justice is done for our mother," said xxxxs son, xxxxx
In his report, xxxxsaid the hospital violated requirements to medically screen the woman. The person who failed to arrange the examination resigned and others in the emergency room were "counseled and written findings placed in their personnel files," the report said.
xxxboyfriend, xxx, used a pay phone outside the hospital to call 911 and told a dispatcher, through a Spanish interpreter: "My wife is dying and the nurses don't want to help her out."
A second 911 call was placed eight minutes later by a bystander who requested that an ambulance be sent to take xxxxto another hospital for care. The dispatcher argued with the woman over whether there really was an emergency, refused to call paramedics and eventually cut off the call.
Sheriff's department spokesman xxxxxx said the department was reviewing the handling of the 911 calls by two of its dispatchers.
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personal opnion and shared media info

[summerwind]

Asiandoc you say..."Its sad that CA keep paying millinions and millions in such lawsuits settlements for above wrongful dealth ,yet unable to pay for schools site visits!!!"

It is the foreign school that is applying for approval that should pay for the site visit.

[ASIANDOC]

Asiandoc you say..."Its sad that CA keep paying millinions and millions in such lawsuits settlements for above wrongful dealth ,yet unable to pay for schools site visits!!!"

It is the foreign school that is applying for approval that should pay for the site visit.

I know,I was told that is "conflict of interest"!we doctors prohibited under new AMA rule to accept anything including dinner invitations,samples of medicine for personal use,etc because that also conflict of interest and I agree with the AMA rules.

personal opnion

[ASIANDOC]

every few years you hear or read articles bashing carribean grads and almost always CA alleged the substandards issues of many such schools in the articles,many of us who been in the system know that we get screened and grilled by so many inspection points to make it,the problem is many non carribean schools and gov as well as CA state officials in LA[see above article]saying we have some substandard hospitals and care yet for years errors been takeing place and people getting substandard care and nothing is done,you hear about medical practice issues in VA hospitals,county hospitals,private hospitals,etc just last night on CNN they had program on medical errors,Florida require a course of medical errors before renewing your license,that is to me a crisis especially in a country who spend the most money on healthcare!!!!I have been to hospitals in the US that made me feel ashamed because many third world countries hospitals are better.I should not be disappointed because the issue is being looked at and its in the media,but the only note I have is states should not be critical of others if they have themselves more serious deficiencies leading to mortalities and adverse outcomes.

personal opinion expressed
have great weekend

[senz_asian]

lol, even AFGHANISTAN????


Yepp!! As long as the school is STATE OWNED, the school would be approved automatically. I have serious doubt that some schools in third world country can provide the same education as SMU. THE GOVERNATOR CAN DEFINITELY OVERRIDE THIS DECISION, THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE GET A 5 MIN MEETING WITH HIM :)


SHWARZZENSHRIVER FOR PRESIDENT!!!! :D

[Scott1981]

isnt it against TOS to have the same topic discussed over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over with a different thread title?

[emt036]

isnt it against TOS to have the same topic discussed over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over with a different thread title?

Yeah, it's called flooding...

[fammed2002]

hello,

This topic is relevant and important. If other states are using the calif
list instead of doing their own evaluations and considering applications
based on credentials then people need to take action.

1) I pointed out how a MD licensed in 4 states board certified, resident
of the year was unable to do an ER fellowship in tenn because the
board cited the calif board eval and a newspaper article. yes a
newspaper article.

contact the governor, the federation of state medical boards,
your local medical society. if you really want to enact
change you need to pass legislation in california with the help of
a calif congress person. it can be done but will be time consuming
and costly. rules can be changed with legislation.

see my post about "how medical boards can improve for further
background infor

regards,
fammed2002