Reality Check

[Founder's Library]

Hi everyone,

So, I have been following these developments from the beginning initially with the piracy of my school's website. I had decided to sit back, wish the current students of CMU luck and no longer post. However, I can no longer sit on the sidelines without expressing my opinion, in the hopes of helping students with their decision to attend medical school in the Caribbean.

Let me preface my statement by saying that I wish CMU and its current students nothing but the best of luck in making this school a success, however, I would be neglect if I did not warn potential applicants of the pitfalls that have not been addressed by the school.

Ok, so here goes....

First, let me give you some of my own background. I graduated from an Ivy League school, have a Master's from an American Medical school and have worked doing both clinical and bench work for almost 6 years before attending medical school. Unfortunately I had a little too much fun while an undergrad and my science GPA was nothing to be proud of, hence regardless of all my experience I was not offered a seat in an Americal medical school. Being one to do my research I spent almost a year comparing all of the caribbean schools. I read all of their own literature, spoke with administration, spoke with current students, spoke with alumni, visited the facilities, etc. I was as complete in my analysis as one could possibly be. As a result of my research I can confidently say that SGU, AUC and Ross are above and beyond the best medical schools in the Caribbean. This is not even a subjective question, this statement is based upon the facts of the number of graduates each school has, the number of practicing physicians, the ability to be licensed in all 50 states, their american clinical affiliations, their reputation amongst program directors, their facilities, I can go on for 10 more minutes but I think everyone will get the picture.

So, to anyone thinking about coming to the Caribbean, do your research but listen to me carefully. I have received the best that american education can offer in both my undergraduate and graduate studies and in comparing my experience to that of SGU I can honestly say that SGU is just as rigorous and you will receive a medical education that is first rate.

If for some reason you are not accepted to either SGU, AUC or Ross, then I first suggest that you reevaluate your career choice. If you still feel that medicine is your life's calling then give a brand new school like CMU a chance. It just might be that with students with such dedication and such a calling that CMU could rise through the ranks of caribbean schools and one day truly be a powerhouse but that day is not today. It is going to take them atleast 5-10 years of students sitting for the boards, graduating, obtaining residencies, and becming practicing physicians for the school to obtain any measure of respect.

CMU, I wish you the best of luck but to any prospective students, a school that is only 2 weeks old should ABSOLTELY be your LAST resort.

I hope that helps. Please understand that was not meant with any ill will towards CMU's current students, I hope that your administration chooses to do right by you.

[atlanticvioxx]

One can also argue the following:

1) Getting into a US med school should be first priority.
2) Of course, there are the big 4: auc, ross, sgu and saba.

3) However, the other med schools have done great jobs: AUA, SJSM, MUA, IAU, Eustatius, St Mattews all get the job done also. It is up to the student. If you fail out of one of the US med schools, you will not pass in the caribbean ones either.

[MYMD]

No disrespect but what bugs me when I read these statements is this (in any forum not just CMU)

1. Regardless of where you went to school undergrad or Masters you did not get accepted to a US school (the best) so you are looking to attend a Caribbean school.
2. with few exceptions, most here are not experts nor qualified to review a medical school.
3. Regardless of what you post and how you qualify your post you are still giving an opinion and we do not know you.
4. All Caribbean Medical schools are not the same as a US medical school if so then why do they accept people with lower standards then the US medical schools?
5. No matter what school you go to you will be a FMG/IMG

My "Reality Check"

This is just opinion like everyone else

I wanted to add I agree with Teratos in the other thread, I do not want to be nor wish others to get screwed with these schools, its fine to ask questions and get straight answers, but at times I think there is a bit of Harassment on these threads.

[Founder's Library]

If you read my post carefully I very clearly state that my grades were not good enough to get into an american school. It does not need to be said that an american acceptance is the goal we all wish we could have achieved.

Regardless, the point still stands. CMU needs many years and many students to garner a reputation. Until then, it will be, as it should be, a last resort.

[stephew]

founder's library's post in terms of content (not to mention tone) is very reasonable. by your reckoning, no one should post anything here. And the notion that graduating from any offshore school is equal is about as wrong as thinking that its equivilent to graduate from harvard versus creighton, all other things being equal.


Disagreements are hardly harrassment, and often the robustness of the disagreement reflects the vigor of the cheerleading.

Good post FL.

No disrespect but what bugs me when I read these statements is this (in any forum not just CMU)

1. Regardless of where you went to school undergrad or Masters you did not get accepted to a US school (the best) so you are looking to attend a Caribbean school.
2. with few exceptions, most here are not experts nor qualified to review a medical school.
3. Regardless of what you post and how you qualify your post you are still giving an opinion and we do not know you.
4. All Caribbean Medical schools are not the same as a US medical school if so then why do they accept people with lower standards then the US medical schools?
5. No matter what school you go to you will be a FMG/IMG

My "Reality Check"

This is just opinion like everyone else

I wanted to add I agree with Teratos in the other thread, I do not want to be nor wish others to get screwed with these schools, its fine to ask questions and get straight answers, but at times I think there is a bit of Harassment on these threads.

[DRDRWMD]

I have read some really heavy cheerleading on the CMU forums as well. I agree with the opinion that one should be careful when choosing a new school. I do wish them success in their future. I am not sure about their medical education, but I do enjoy their fun films.

[stephew]

I have read some really heavy cheerleading on the CMU forums as well. I agree with the opinion that one should be careful when choosing a new school. I do wish them success in their future. I am not sure about their medical education, but I do enjoy their fun films.
perhaps CMU should open a college of Film Studies?

[MYMD]

founder's library's post in terms of content (not to mention tone) is very reasonable. by your reckoning, no one should post anything here. And the notion that graduating from any offshore school is equal is about as wrong as thinking that its equivilent to graduate from harvard versus creighton, all other things being equal.


Disagreements are hardly harrassment, and often the robustness of the disagreement reflects the vigor of the cheerleading.

Good post FL.
While as a SGU almuni you may agree that SGU is as rigous as a US medical school (As per your compliment) I disagree. I think SGU is a good school but it is not a US medical school. PR has US medical schools, and is the only place in the Caribbean with them PR is not a state, and has LCME approval why not SGU?

You muddy my point that attending a Caribbean school does not make you an expert in these schools as well as having gone to an IVY league school.
The poster admits that they could not gain admittance to a US medical School.

That is my point. That no matter what they say it is an opinion based only on the experience of attending SGU not other schools, not US medical school.

I find it offensive that a poster writes they attended an IVY league school for undergrad and then SGU and the tone is they have an important opinion.

However this is not about CMU.

Disagreements are hardly harrassment, and often the robustness of the disagreement reflects the vigor of the cheerleading.
I beg to differ in some posts here in the CMU forum, Others have been warned for flamming and bad behavior, is that not harassment?
There are many posts by one user that is banned that are in an attacking manner, it looks like harassment IMO.
Please do you mean that Disagreement by the Admin or students of CMU is cheerleading? I think some cheerleading has gone on by the students but not every post. I also think that the students and Admin should post rebuttals, of course I hope it is the truth.

My opinions are based on reading these threads, the school website, knowing some of the people there and attending SJSM. So my experience is very little and limited. But I feel I should not be belittled for having an opinion of what I read here.



I do not like nor participate in cheerleading, it is wrong.

Please As a Moderator do not squash my right to question anothers qualifications to sway opinion on VMD, that is cheerleading for them is it not? It's ok to question right?

[MYMD]

Let's look at the post Stephew:



Hi everyone,

So, I have been following these developments from the beginning initially with the piracy of my school's website. I had decided to sit back, wish the current students of CMU luck and no longer post. However, I can no longer sit on the sidelines without expressing my opinion, in the hopes of helping students with their decision to attend medical school in the Caribbean.

Admits to posting opinion But seems to be also expressing expertise ( or did I read this wrong?) ( Am I an expert since I attended SJSM for Basic Sci?)


Let me preface my statement by saying that I wish CMU and its current students nothing but the best of luck in making this school a success, however, I would be neglect if I did not warn potential applicants of the pitfalls that have not been addressed by the school. This poster knows for a FACT that these pitfalls are 100% true?

Ok, so here goes....

First, let me give you some of my own background. I graduated from an Ivy League school, have a Master's from an American Medical school and have worked doing both clinical and bench work for almost 6 years before attending medical school. Unfortunately I had a little too much fun while an undergrad and my science GPA was nothing to be proud of, hence regardless of all my experience I was not offered a seat in an Americal medical school. Being one to do my research I spent almost a year comparing all of the caribbean schools. I read all of their own literature, spoke with administration, spoke with current students, spoke with alumni, visited the facilities, etc. Which schools visited? how many? if just the big 4 thats great how about SMU, SJSM, AUA, ect??
I was as complete in my analysis as one could possibly be. As a result of my research I can confidently say that SGU, AUC and Ross are above and beyond the best medical schools in the Caribbean. This is not even a subjective question, this statement is based upon the facts of the number of graduates each school has, the number of practicing physicians, the ability to be licensed in all 50 states, their american clinical affiliations, their reputation amongst program directors, their facilities, I can go on for 10 more minutes but I think everyone will get the picture. Again the poster boasts that HIS written opinion is as such not an opinion but fact This is not even a subjective question, SO there is no room for debate? How about SABA? It's a very good school and part of the "BIG 4".

So, to anyone thinking about coming to the Caribbean, do your research but listen to me carefully. I have received the best that american education can offer in both my undergraduate and graduate studies and in comparing my experience to that of SGU I can honestly say that SGU is just as rigorous and you will receive a medical education that is first rate. WOW it says it all this poster is an expert??? They recieved the best American education then why are they at a Caribbean school? OOPS I questioned that Steph...........................

If for some reason you are not accepted to either SGU, AUC or Ross, then I first suggest that you reevaluate your career choice. So if you choose SABA or AUA then you are not making a good choice? I thought these were considered good schools?

If you still feel that medicine is your life's calling then give a brand new school like CMU a chance. It just might be that with students with such dedication and such a calling that CMU could rise through the ranks of caribbean schools and one day truly be a powerhouse but that day is not today. It is going to take them atleast 5-10 years of students sitting for the boards, graduating, obtaining residencies, and becming practicing physicians for the school to obtain any measure of respect.

CMU, I wish you the best of luck but to any prospective students, a school that is only 2 weeks old should ABSOLTELY be your LAST resort.

I hope that helps. Please understand that was not meant with any ill will towards CMU's current students, I hope that your administration chooses to do right by you.Look I agree with some of what is posted here but to then criticizing me for criticizing the other poster thinking they are an authority on caribbean schools well is calling the kettle black, I feel I'm as much an expert as this person, again IMO.

I could not just sit on the sidelines and keep reading these posts so I posted.

[stephew]

i think you really misunderstood my points. you can question others as much as you want. But if my criticisms of your take is quashing your right to question other's qualifications, you are certainly attempting to quash Founders Lib's pov. Is that not a little hypocritical?While as a SGU almuni you may agree that SGU is as rigous as a US medical school (As per your compliment) I disagree. I think SGU is a good school but it is not a US medical school. PR has US medical schools, and is the only place in the Caribbean with them PR is not a state, and has LCME approval why not SGU?

You muddy my point that attending a Caribbean school does not make you an expert in these schools as well as having gone to an IVY league school.
The poster admits that they could not gain admittance to a US medical School.

That is my point. That no matter what they say it is an opinion based only on the experience of attending SGU not other schools, not US medical school.

I find it offensive that a poster writes they attended an IVY league school for undergrad and then SGU and the tone is they have an important opinion.

However this is not about CMU.

I beg to differ in some posts here in the CMU forum, Others have been warned for flamming and bad behavior, is that not harassment?
There are many posts by one user that is banned that are in an attacking manner, it looks like harassment IMO.
Please do you mean that Disagreement by the Admin or students of CMU is cheerleading? I think some cheerleading has gone on by the students but not every post. I also think that the students and Admin should post rebuttals, of course I hope it is the truth.

My opinions are based on reading these threads, the school website, knowing some of the people there and attending SJSM. So my experience is very little and limited. But I feel I should not be belittled for having an opinion of what I read here.



I do not like nor participate in cheerleading, it is wrong.

Please As a Moderator do not squash my right to question anothers qualifications to sway opinion on VMD, that is cheerleading for them is it not? It's ok to question right?

[MYMD]

i think you really misunderstood my points. you can question others as much as you want. But if my criticisms of your take is quashing your right to question other's qualifications, you are certainly attempting to quash Founders Lib's pov. Is that not a little hypocritical?
You quoted my post and I made it clear I agreed with the a lot of said but I reject Founder as an expert and really do not like the CV posted as a reason the opinion is so important. I, as you do, have a long career and interesting things on my CV, but none of us are any more important then the other when expressing our opinions. That is my point.
so I think you misunderstand me here.

I think less cheerleading and more factual posts are helpful. So is less "Soapboxing" which I feel Founder did by starting this thread.

I think most of us know that the schools other then the big 4 are not the best choice. I also think there is an unofficial tier to these schools.

[MYMD]

Since this is a "SOAPBOX" thread I have a thought, why are we soapboxing to students who most do not have the choice to choose SGU, ROSS, AUC and or SABA? Just a thought?

[doctormua]

you just don't seem to get it do you? sjsm is not in the same league as schools that have accredited programs, ny or ca approval, or residency matches that are more than 10!!!!!!!!

aua, smu, and mua-nevis are in the 2nd tier b/c they are right after sgu,ross,auc, and saba.........

sjsm belongs in the league with windsor, all saints, and iuhs, etc................heck even spartan is a better choice than sjsm.......the school in the caribbean without a campus and without accreditations!!

[MYMD]

you just don't seem to get it do you? sjsm is not in the same league as schools that have accredited programs, ny or ca approval, or residency matches that are more than 10!!!!!!!!

aua, smu, and mua-nevis are in the 2nd tier b/c they are right after sgu,ross,auc, and saba.........

sjsm belongs in the league with windsor, all saints, and iuhs, etc................heck even spartan is a better choice than sjsm.......the school in the caribbean without a campus and without accreditations!!

Whatever?:bored: Where did I mention SJSM? I think you have a hang up on SJSM :roll:

All I worry about is the ability to practice and that is all that matters ;)

[Scott1981]

Since this is a "SOAPBOX" thread I have a thought, why are we soapboxing to students who most do not have the choice to choose SGU, ROSS, AUC and or SABA?

we are soapboxing because they do have the choice of aua, smu, mua-nevis. and if not aua, mua-nevis, smu, at least schools that have every duck in a row from basic sciences to clinical sciences.

[MYMD]

we are soapboxing because they do have the choice of aua, smu, mua-nevis. and if not aua, mua-nevis, smu, at least schools that have every duck in a row from basic sciences to clinical sciences.
Scott are you sure about that? SMU wants a MCAT I hear, AUA costs a lot to attend now, I think there are some that will choose these schools because they have no where else to go, I think some may do ok others...............some people posted the truth, they may want to rethink Medical school.

[stephew]

discussion is only useful if the participants aren't merely looking to appear "right". Otherwise you may as well argue with a wall.

[MYMD]

discussion is only useful if the participants aren't merely looking to appear "right". Otherwise you may as well argue with a wall.not sure of the point? Are you saying these people would be accepted at a big 4 school because I do not think so.

I do think some of these schools give some people a shot at studying medicine, sometimes the only shot.

I think the main question here is, is this school legit?

[Scott1981]

Scott are you sure about that? SMU wants a MCAT I hear, AUA costs a lot to attend now, I think there are some that will choose these schools because they have no where else to go, I think some may do ok others...............some people posted the truth, they may want to rethink Medical school.

ok, so if you have no mcat....... are you implying that everyone at aua is rich so they can afford it? i think most are on loans regardless..... like steph always says.... eventually it will be a drop in the bucket.

however, lets go further. if not the 3 others that i posted..... why not schools such as st james, spartan, etc? even though they may not be the most reputable in the caribbean...... at least they are somewhat solid. reason why i say this is because they are in the WHO/IMED database, they have hospital affiliations that are verifiable, and most of all..... they have graduates that are either in residency or fully licensed. yes.... i know.... there are flaws in the definition of solidity that i just posted..... but its a heck of a lot better than what a new school like this has to offer.

cmu offers promises. thats it. promises that they will provide you the tools to become a licensed physician in the states. no proof.

want proof, go look for who/imed, verifiable hospital affiliations, graduates in residency, licensed physicians. st james, spartan, iau, even iuhs(not the online branch) have at least some of these. cmu.... well.... has promises. i wouldnt bank on promises.... not when its my money, my life, and my future.

i offer my OPINION on this matter. my only wish is that potential students will use it to guide them in their research of schools. why do i say this.... because when i just started medical school...... i had no clue what imed was or what greenbook/bluebook meant.

[MYMD]

ok, so if you have no mcat....... are you implying that everyone at aua is rich so they can afford it? i think most are on loans regardless..... like steph always says.... eventually it will be a drop in the bucket.

however, lets go further. if not the 3 others that i posted..... why not schools such as st james, spartan, etc? even though they may not be the most reputable in the caribbean...... at least they are somewhat solid. reason why i say this is because they are in the WHO/IMED database, they have hospital affiliations that are verifiable, and most of all..... they have graduates that are either in residency or fully licensed. yes.... i know.... there are flaws in the definition of solidity that i just posted..... but its a heck of a lot better than what a new school like this has to offer.

cmu offers promises. thats it. promises that they will provide you the tools to become a licensed physician in the states. no proof.

want proof, go look for who/imed, verifiable hospital affiliations, graduates in residency, licensed physicians. st james, spartan, iau, even iuhs(not the online branch) have at least some of these. cmu.... well.... has promises. i wouldnt bank on promises.... not when its my money, my life, and my future.

i offer my OPINION on this matter. my only wish is that potential students will use it to guide them in their research of schools. why do i say this.... because when i just started medical school...... i had no clue what imed was or what greenbook/bluebook meant.

Scott I said I agree, look I want to see the proof like everyone else that CMU gets IMED and WHO listing, Loans ect...............

and I'm not a cheerleader for any school, not the one I attend no one.

The goal should be to become a physician and to practice, to do that the schools must be at least IMED listed for the USMLE if not enjoy the Caribbean because the time you spent there was a waste.

[Scott1981]

one last thing..... basic science at CMU is $5900 per semester.

spartan is $4250
st james $3500
xavier $5800

just a quick sample..... im sure there are more out there that are cheaper than cmu as well.

[Scott1981]

Scott I said I agree, look I want to see the proof like everyone else that CMU gets IMED and WHO listing, Loans ect...............

and I'm not a cheerleader for any school, not the one I attend no one.

The goal should be to become a physician and to practice, to do that the schools must be at least IMED listed for the USMLE if not enjoy the Caribbean because the time you spent there was a waste.

i wasnt accusing you of being a cheerleader. i know you are trying to be objective. i think many of us tried to, but at some point..... we gave up..... each of us had a different tipping point (even if he/she never posted before reaching the tipping point).

now, if you start bragging about a new cleanmax 3000 bidet that just got installed at cmu..... then you have some explaining to do :lol:

[MYMD]

Points well taken, Uh but SJSM Basic is 4200 a semester or they owe me a refund LOL.

SJSM is then 6900 for clinicals with an additional 800 a year for malpractice

I also want to give Stephew credit, she said money should not be the sole reason to pick a school and I think she is right.

[dt]

I also want to give Stephew credit, she said money should not be the sole reason to pick a school and I think she is right.

It could be the sole reason if you are broke, have no credit, no rich parents, bankrupted, etc...

[dt]

I do think some of these schools give some people a shot at studying medicine, sometimes the only shot.

I think the main question here is, is this school legit?

Agreed. And will it be around in 10 years (so you can get your documents for licensing)?

[DocRon]

.......you are broke, have no credit, no rich parents, bankrupted, etc...


Dt is broadcasting my personal situation to the entire VMD world.... (oh wait that was just a general statement)... never mind:oops:

[stephew]

It could be the sole reason if you are broke, have no credit, no rich parents, bankrupted, etc...

um, touche.

[jtu]

Hi
Friends!!!

Let's spark a debate on-->
"Money should not be the sole reason to pick a school"
Reply soon.Regards.

[shayloure]

While as a SGU almuni you may agree that SGU is as rigous as a US medical school (As per your compliment) I disagree. I think SGU is a good school but it is not a US medical school. PR has US medical schools, and is the only place in the Caribbean with them PR is not a state, and has LCME approval why not SGU?

You muddy my point that attending a Caribbean school does not make you an expert in these schools as well as having gone to an IVY league school.
The poster admits that they could not gain admittance to a US medical School.

That is my point. That no matter what they say it is an opinion based only on the experience of attending SGU not other schools, not US medical school.

I find it offensive that a poster writes they attended an IVY league school for undergrad and then SGU and the tone is they have an important opinion.

However this is not about CMU.

I beg to differ in some posts here in the CMU forum, Others have been warned for flamming and bad behavior, is that not harassment?
There are many posts by one user that is banned that are in an attacking manner, it looks like harassment IMO.
Please do you mean that Disagreement by the Admin or students of CMU is cheerleading? I think some cheerleading has gone on by the students but not every post. I also think that the students and Admin should post rebuttals, of course I hope it is the truth.

My opinions are based on reading these threads, the school website, knowing some of the people there and attending SJSM. So my experience is very little and limited. But I feel I should not be belittled for having an opinion of what I read here.



I do not like nor participate in cheerleading, it is wrong.

Please As a Moderator do not squash my right to question anothers qualifications to sway opinion on VMD, that is cheerleading for them is it not? It's ok to question right?


Well in reference to PR, which I'm pretty sure you referring to Puerto Rico. It has to have LCME approval because Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory. It was acquired I thought in 1951 or somewhere around then. Maybe later but not too much later.

[teratos]

Hi
Friends!!!

Let's spark a debate on-->
"Money should not be the sole reason to pick a school"
Reply soon.Regards.

If you can't qualify for loans, you should re-evaluate your situation.

I didn't have a dime, no financial support from my family when I started med school. I took out these things called "loans" where people give you money for your education, in exchange for a promise to pay it back with interest. It worked out pretty well. I am paying them back without much difficulty now.....

[atlanticvioxx]

Hi
Friends!!!

Let's spark a debate on-->
"Money should not be the sole reason to pick a school"
Reply soon.Regards.

A sole reason: NO! A good reason, yes! An extra 100k, even with a physicians salary, is a huge piece of baggage

[Scott1981]

A sole reason: NO! A good reason, yes! An extra 100k, even with a physicians salary, is a huge piece of baggage

why dont you work out the numbers before making a generalized comment like this. this example took me 3 minutes to prepare.

assuming all are a total of 10 semesters long:

smu : $89,000
cmu: $64,000
aua: $91,375
mua-n: $77,150

now this does not include the schools that are even cheaper than cmu, offer more in terms of solidity, but dont have the record of smu, aua, and mua-n.

making over-exaggerated responses doesnt help anyone on this forum.
100K? :roll:

[teratos]

A sole reason: NO! A good reason, yes! An extra 100k, even with a physicians salary, is a huge piece of baggage

Don't you want to make sure you actually get to make a physician's salary?

[jtu]

Hi
Friends!!
More remarks on "Money is the sole reason or not"
Let us take a e-mail poll and report soon.
We welcome more remarks.Regards.

[teratos]

Hi
Friends!!
More remarks on "Money is the sole reason or not"
Let us take a e-mail poll and report soon.
We welcome more remarks.Regards.

You can set up a poll right here on VMD. An e-mail poll is too shady....

[IMG SURVIVOR]

why dont you work out the numbers before making a generalized comment like this. this example took me 3 minutes to prepare.

assuming all are a total of 10 semesters long:

smu : $89,000
cmu: $64,000
aua: $91,375
mua-n: $77,150

now this does not include the schools that are even cheaper than cmu, offer more in terms of solidity, but dont have the record of smu, aua, and mua-n.

making over-exaggerated responses doesnt help anyone on this forum.
100K? :roll:

UCE 45,000 and is aprove in more than one state:D

[stephew]

im afraid scott is right in general. the extra money over the long term isnt as much as you think. particuarly if you can practice in the career you want where you want. And note the more dificult to get residencies tend to be more lucrative. so youre very short sighted in overemphasizing the money. premeds often dont understand it really and do it quite often.why dont you work out the numbers before making a generalized comment like this. this example took me 3 minutes to prepare.

assuming all are a total of 10 semesters long:

smu : $89,000
cmu: $64,000
aua: $91,375
mua-n: $77,150

now this does not include the schools that are even cheaper than cmu, offer more in terms of solidity, but dont have the record of smu, aua, and mua-n.

making over-exaggerated responses doesnt help anyone on this forum.
100K? :roll:

[stephew]

You can set up a poll right here on VMD. An e-mail poll is too shady....

teratos, do you think "we welcome more remarks" really means "we really don't welcome more remarks that do anything but agree with us".

[Founder's Library]

Sorry guys I have been away for a day but I wanted to respond to the post regarding my not attending an american medical school. Yes, I am not currently attending an american medical school, I am here in the caribbean just like everyone else on this forum, however, my master's degree was obtained at an american medical school where each and every class of the 8 that I took was a first year class with their own medical students. This school is a top 25 US school and I took every last class with them except their clinical skills course. So I would argue that I have a pretty good idea what the quality of education is like at some (obviously not all) american schools. I am comfortable saying that the education I am receiving at SGU is on par with the school that I attended for my master's. Unfortunately, american medical schools still consider undergraduate GPA's more important than graduate work so I was still not accepted.

Once again the take home message is this: prospective applicants: do your research. Apply to the schools that have a proven track record, those that will allow you to sit for the boards and to be licensed as a physician.

To the CMU students who think that their school is the greatest thing since sliced bread, I hope that you are working on making your administration accountable so that they move in the direction which will ultimately allow you to practice medicine one day.

[mongo18]

Hi
Friends!!!

Let's spark a debate on-->
"Money should not be the sole reason to pick a school"
Reply soon.Regards.


True, but I am a firm beleiver that you get what you pay for. If it's too good to be true, it usually is.